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Okay. Help me out here.
Where will the pps be EOD and EOY?
Will pps go below $.60 today?
Since it is all manipulated, are you able to take advantage of that?
As for me, I'm not doing too well. Could sure use some help in knowing where the pps is going and when.
TIA!
If we get #5, we will have a January through December effect!
Not just a January effect.
IMO.
OH!!NO!! Dale. Don't you realize everything is rigged? There are humongous short shares. Somewhere. Those figures released are Manipulated!
EVERYTHING is Manipulated. Do you hear? Manipulated. Naked shorts! MM's! Sec. Everything.
There is a very simple explanation for this. Call your broker and he will explain it for you.
Actually, another MM handled the 1000 shares. Not yours.
Your broker can make it clear for you.
Does anything happen that is not manipulated?? Anything at all? Going up, up, and up isn't is it? Just down.
I appreciate you patience with me. I was not aware there were two sites. Where is Thorold? In Canada?
Is there a site for the processor[soon to be three] and another site for blending? Blending of what?
"What's the point of your post"?
Hey, I think your kind of information is the best kind. Going by the factory and observing what's going on. Your observations are excellent info as to activity. I look forward to your posts as to what you observe.
I am totally sincere.
I am confused, however. Do you go by the factory? The factory is in Niagara Falls, is it not?
I agree. I have already scooped and scooped until I am scooped out.
-:)
Well, I believe I can now answer one of these after some more reading.
The Consent Order is to operate the PLASTIC2OIL factory. Not limited to one processor but the "factory". That would mean all processors, IMO at the "factory".
Little humor here now: -:)
With JBII:
We can't deal with these type question. We have to deal with phantom short sales, naked short selling, possible up listing, MM manipulation, dumb SEC.
Not real things like anything happening on the West Coast. Al arriving at Niagara Falls. Al's revised plans for Fla. And my big question. Can John sell from more than one processor until the permits are issued. My read is that he can't. Can build one more? Two more? But can sell from only the present one at this time. I may be totally wrong on this. I guess a phone call would clear it up.
His enthusiasm at getting on board is most impressive to me. He must see excellent opportunity in Niagara Falls.
We all know what happens when a smaller company is bought out by a Sunoco. The folks of the purchased company are phased out in favor of folks in the purchasing company, usually called "Downsized out", BUT this eagerness on his part is impressive. Perhaps he is looking at equity as well as a paycheck. At any rate, he is there and perhaps can start blending for sales very soon.
I'll tell you what bothers me about your information. Tell me just what basis you have to post about uplist? There are requirements for uplisting. JBII meets none of them. To post insinuating uplist is just pure PUMPING IMO. Why can't we deal in facts about JBII?
I think it is a disservice to post about uplisting when there is no basis for it. We all know that if a company is successful and makes money and the pps goes up to the requirement for uplisting, as well as other met requirements, all companies are uplisted at some point. The disservice is using that to pump. I will post about uplisting when the company files for uplisting or meets all the criteria for uplisting. That sure ain't $.70/share.
The PPS is hurt, IMO, by false expectations. People buy expecting uplisting and it does not occur so they sell. Same with any false expectation. The best thing we could do is stick to facts, IMO.
UPLIST! HUGE SHORT SALES! TAX LOSS SELLING! NO ONE has a single fact relating to any of these except the shorts reported 11/30 of just over 16000 shares.
People buy stocks and people sell stocks. Thursday, there were more people wanting to sell than there were people wanting to buy so the sellers had to settle for a lower PPS to find willing buyers. Simple. Supply and demand. The supply of shares were higher than the demand for the shares. PPS down.
Hopefully, our day will come. There will be a bigger demand for shares than there is supply so the PPS will go up.
There are a many reasons people that own stock sell them. Need money. Sick of the company. Disgusted with markets period. Getting out of the market forever. On and on and on. Perhaps because of what they read on a board. In the paper. Tipster.
It is not MMs. Short sellers. ETC., etc. It's supply and demand.
All commodities trade based on supply and demand. Shares of stock are a commodity.
Well, in the market of late, maybe. But you do that and a couple of times they zoom to da moon and you are left sitting there with no shares and you will come to my way. If I want to buy a stock. I want to buy it now and will put in to buy at the ask if, say 5000 shares. If larger, I will put in to buy at above the ask. I got my shares. I'm happy. Got my total fill right now. Some shares will be at the ask.
rcELF, 85451: Sales can only be made from one processor, is my take on it. Can build the second but sales from only present one.
SantaZar, 85452: Just not true. My order of 20,000 shares may hit the 5000 four times. Short position is 19,600 shares. That's it. No games. It may go up and down before reporting time again on 12/15 but that was the shorts on 11/30.
HUH?
Are you saying that an uptick of 5000, 2500 shares is shorting? Many buys are at the ask, which is usually an uptick. Right? I always put in my order of any size at the ask or slightly higher. Also MM's fill orders at the ask all day long. They are required to. Those shares may be short if they run out of inventory. You can bet they will "even up" by the end of the day. MM's make their money on the spread and just want action. Don't matter to them which way. Just volume. They don't want to be much long or short at the EOD. Even up and start again the next day. that's their game.
Hey, I take exception to the misleading word "Commences". We have no indication that JBII has Commenced. Therein is the problem. Why hasn't JBII Commensed? When will JBII commence? Zilch that we know of. PPS dropped because John did not address when COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS would COMMENCE.
Why would anyone want JBII to fail other than big oil?
There was an item in the CC that has gotten passed over and I wonder if anyone has any insight on it? John said that he would proceed in Fla with ONLY Al Sousa. There had been others, evidently, but they are being dropped, as I heard him say. Anyone?
Does it have any significance?
I read your post 85403 with great interest. Thank you.
BUT? Where do you get the estimated 2M short position?
Pink Sheet shows 19,627.
Does not Justice37 go by the plant on his way to and from work? Between the two of you, we can have GREAT up-to-date information. The kind I like more than fancy reports.
Thanks to both of you.
hey, TMAN, can you give us some factual info on that or at least how you got your estimate. SHARES SHORT.
IT IS TOTALLY AMATEURISH TO TRY TO EXPLAIN A PPS DROP BY COMING UP WITH THESE OFF THE WALL SHORT SHARES. HAPPENS EVERY TIME A DROP OCCURS IN A STOCK BEING HELD BY POSTERS. TELL US WHERE YOU GET THE FIGURES. ARE THEY JUST MADE UP UP?
ACTUALLY, A LARGE SHORT NUMBER OF SHARES WOULD BE A GOOD THING HERE, IMO. A TANKER LOADING UP AND DELIVERING FUEL TO A CUSTOMER, JUST ONE LOAD, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN TOLD WILL HAPPEN IN 4TH Q[MOVE THAT TO 1ST Q NOW] WILL PUT SHORT POSITIONS IN A TIGHT SPOT. EVERY HEAR OF PANIC BUYING, SHORT SQUEEZE?
Well, now we have this other guy that shorted and he is hoping and praying for it to go down. Which guy is God going to answer? Just wondering?
I know this can be deleted, but just have to let you know.
FIRST WHITE CHRISTMAS IN 45 YEARS. HOW ABOUT THAT?
FORECAST TO CONTINUE ALL NIGHT LONG.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!ONE AND ALL.
Well, Sir, I certainly appreciate your reply and your point is well taken. I have been scammed before, even after I visited sites and met with CEO's and other, saw products being packed, etc. so I know first hand that it can be done.
Is it TOO good to be true? It is and we are being scammed, OR it's not and we shareholders are going to be extremely rich.
Frankly, I am nervous.
Again, thank you.
As to the poster about the cost of operating the processors. We knew that. Two operators. $25/hr
Thank you. I think I understand. Makes sense too.
So the air permit was not a "given". It was contingent upon a SW permit. When permits are imminent and a given and there is a delay, as we have seen because a SW permit is required, the Market is disappointed and we see what happens to the pps.
Hey, I don't have to drive so I'm taking my Netbook.
Okay. I accept what you say.
Then answer me this? Why have the CC at all?
You know, Prophet, you make some valid points. I have been taken by my share of scams. John has made some missteps, IMO, and I don't understand why. I also don't understand all this problem with not being issued an air permit. It was a "given" for so long by so many posters. Now we are being told about other "givens". Why not an air permit and a six month one on SW? Why this temporary air permit? Something just don't sound right with DEC, permits, etc.
HOWEVER!!!!If it is a scam, a lot of people are in on it or they are being scammed as well. Employees, State Senators, DEC in Niagara Falls and the state office, Al Sousa, the city of Niagara Falls, and the list goes on.
Do you really think that could happen? Interested in what you reply.
Off to Greenwood for Christmas Dinner with family.
Merry Christmas.
Turning waste plastic into fuel better than anyone else? You are exactly right. Well stated.
Taking waste plastic and turning it into usable fuel at $10/barrel cost in a world with a growing shortage of fuel and landfills running over with waste plastic! Processors all over the world! Put multi in front of your figure. Mind boggling, if you really think about it. Totally mind boggling! Begin with toothless OPEC. Take it to fuel independent UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We can't even calculate what that would do for our country. Of course, the price of fuel would go down but not below our cost, one would think.
WOW! Where we going to be next Christmas!!!!
I love to spend Christmas in Manhattan, staying at the Waldorf. That's my plan.
Used to do that back in the '70 but a night there was $100 then.
Well, we are supposed to have a lot of activity starting 1/1/11. Right?
And the pps shows that plainly.
All investors ask is that John be totally transparent. To be totally silent on an important subject, such as expected date sales began or will begin, will get exactly what we got. Down 17%.
I would like to have pointed out to me anything we did not know already, except that Colin joined the team. That is good news, BTW, IMO.
Same back at you!
Let me tell you something. I have listened to the CC three times. BOOORRING! I will try to explain myself as an investor.
Bless John's heart. He did a great job but NOT to us investors, as the market showed.
I am interested in your selling of high end database solutions. That's great. Just don't glass my eyes over with all the technical information about how the solutions were developed. The software, writing programs, query data, etc, etc. Did your customers want to hear about the software engineers and the writing of the programs? I doubt it. They wanted to know what could be done for them. Right?
As an investor, I want to know how many did you sell and what were the margins, Whazoo, and what do you expect to sell going forward? As and old boss of mine used to tell me, "Give me the baby without the pains".
John, with his 170 IQ, is a "babe in the woods" when it come to investors. We miss nothing. We understand everything. He is great with his machines but we watch our investments. Nothing slips by. I don't mean me. I mean investors as a group.
What we need is when will tankers be filling up at the processor[is it one as is stated in writing , or more as John leaves too vague to know]? The letter is that he can sell from one processor for six months. He can build a second. He leaves that so vague that I don't know what he is indicating. Can you tell me? From how many processors can he sell now?
I don't care about smog in China either. I don't have to hear the cash register ring immediately. But there have to be projections, expectations. Don't treat us investors like children. What are the projections, expectations at this time? Total transparency, Whazoo. And just tell me why not. We can't handle the truth? Give me a break.
"They are out the door, on the freeway, gaining speed, and on track",. Totally meaningless. Put that into gallons produced. Tankers loading. Dollar sales, if you please?
"Tightly thought out"? You are kidding. Right? I am still trying to get something written down as to what and when something is going to happen. Collin going to work is about all I have at this point. Help me out. Post item one, item two, item three. Approx dates. Something. Anything.
It is probably the most confusing CC I have ever heard. Evidently, I don't have to feel like the Lone Ranger. 17% sell off after it. I guess it was great for a bunch of engineers but not for investors.
I would hazard a guess that I hold a lot more shares than most and I am in for the long haul but John will have to a better job of communicating than that CC. Or better still. Just say nothing. Just put dollars on the top line for now and on the bottom line later on. Let the figures do his talking. that's what I REALLY like.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, RAWNOC REINDEER!!!!!
Copy and paste, please.
Still unknown? Waste Management is a pretty big outfit. They know.
I am betting, again, that you are right, however.
Hey, Justice, you are making a lot of assumptions here. Not facts. Just your hopes. Right?
I have a lot of shares JBII and have no intentions of selling one share. However, I was totally disappointed in the CC. The market was, too. That's more important than what I think.
We get some tankers delivering to customers and it's to da moon, IMO.
IF, IF we can produce gas, oil, fuel, diesel from plastic at a profit, we are all going to make a LOT of money. So, it puzzles me as to why it is selling at $.70/ share. Doesn't it you? World wide shortage of fuel and we can make it from waste plastic!!! You will have a hard time calculating how much we are going to make. Think about it. Vast supply of fuel!!!!!Less dependency, perhaps zero, on OPEC!!!!!!!Rich beyond our wildest dreams. John another billionaire!!!!We are talking waste to black gold. Staggers the imagination, IMO.
Too good to be true?
The market thinks so.
Confidence in JBII? I didn't buy or sell a share today. So where is the confidence where it counts? Confidence is where the pps goes up. Lack of confidence is where it goes down. Don't you agree? The market wants info on sales, IMO. Not huge sales or huge profits. Just a tanker hauling a load to a customer would suffice, IMO.
Well, near the end has been changed from the original at the CC. An item has been left out on "NEXT STEPS" that referred to sales. John also skipped it in the presentation. I wonder why? Anyone have the original? Anyway to get it?
Sell fuel from one processor. We understand. So why did he not tell us when sales will begin? When will a tanker load up and deliver fuel to a customer? What's the big deal? Just inform us owners.
What was the point of the CC? We know all the technical data. A PR is usually issued for a new hire. The market told us what it thinks of the CC.
What is significant is that it was omitted. TOTAL TRANSPARENCY is a must. Every little bitty word of it. DUH!!!!
WHY NOT????
Well, you see what the market thinks of the whole thing. There must be TOTAL transparency. When will CEO's learn that? They think stockholders are stupid and they don't have to put out the information totally straight and honest. Also, not a word about sales. When will CEO's learn the market says, "SHOW ME THE MONEY"?
How many times have there been great ideas and great products that failed because of lack of funds?
The fact is John can sell from one processor and that is approved for only six months. Anything else is spin. What in the world is the problem with getting the air permit? Everything is so great, where is the air permit? The solid waste permit is another thing. We understand having to get that. But the air permit. Has that not been a given for a long time now? Well, where is it? The spin get a pps down over 17%. Beat to tell it like it is.
Why not a word about sales, you think? "Up and running"???
Still get OWR here but no more TV or Olifant.
Easy to hear EXXON for TEXON. His bio has TEXON. You can check it.