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I've been in CCCL for over 3 months now. Was up over 100% just yesterday, didn't sell any, and took a beating today. IMO, this is a healthy correction and CCCL should be on its way up again once the profit taking is out of the way.
As a long and realist, I feel that we may get into a dilution quagmire if revenues from EnerJel, PowerFuse, and ElectroFuse are inadequate to cover expenses in the next two quarters.
I don't want to be known as one of the "early investors" who helped get the company off the ground but ended up with virtually nothing.
We need to pay the bills while clinical trials are ongoing. I hope management realizes this and they're pushing hard for distribution agreements.
What's holding this stock down? Potential investors are apprehensive that it could be another LPH? Are there any indication that it could be?
What's holding up this stock? Morgan Stanley Asia invested USD 150 million in it. Revenue and earning are going gangbusters. Little or zero chance that this is a Chinese accounting scandal stock.
Can someone please clarify a few questions since I haven't been following that close?
--Does SHP intend to drill inland and offshore?
--The estimated 23 billion barrels of oil, how much of that is recoverable?
23 billion x $100 per barrel = $2.3 trillion. If only 5% is recoverable, that's still about $115 billion worth of oil. Still an enormous number.
On many of the stocks I own there's always a shareholder who has a love-hate relationship with the company. If I own a stock and it's not progressing to my liking, I simply sell it and buy into another that has more potential.
I think there are two main reasons SIAF is being kept down: dilution and being a small-cap Chinese stock a midst the recent scandals.
Why no MSLP happy faces? We need an assault on this stock to combat the negativity. Down 99% isn't as bad as being down 100%. lol.
What I fail to understand is if MSLP lost $16 million, how does being listed on the OTC or NASDAQ or any exchange change that fact?
If a company has a sound business company investors will flock to it. No need to window dress the stock price.
Okay. I'm off the boards for awhile. My brain is fried. Been reading too much.
Nothing personal to Mike with all my chiding.
IMO, opinion, Musclepharm will rebound with the right management.
GLTA.
I had to average down to $5.95 but then decided to stop altogether and eventually sold some after the horror stories from previous investors.
No word from management in this period of darkness makes me glad I dumped over 50% of my shares.
I mean with big money and experienced management behind this company, it can go very far. But at this point massive dilution at the cost to current shareholders to achieve those goals.
"According to you, their stock has been brought along like cheese that requires 5 years of aging before it is ready and anyone getting in during the first 4 years is SOL."
That's a very succinct way of putting it. Timing is very important, and sometimes everything, in stock picking. I own shares in this start-up, bought in at $0.12 (close to what turned out to be the consolidation price of $0.10). This gentleman bought in at $0.75. Everyday he's complaining how the company's a disaster, while I'm up.
I jumped in MSLP at $5.95 post-split and now it's around $4. Should have waited a bit longer. My gripe with MSLP is its management.
Thanks for letting me know that there was news. I hadn't checked it in awhile but a nice surprise after I did.
My most optimistic view of MSLP 1 year out: 150% gain. That's being generous. It's less than 3% of my portfolio, so no biggie either way. But's it's my favourite board though. lol.
In the meantime, fundamentally sound U.S. listed Chinese and solar panel plays are going gangbusters. I know where my money should be.
The market acts in very strange ways. I have this other Chinese play, CCCL, that I hand't checked for awhile. The other day I checked it and it's up about 100% in two months with no news. Just quietly doing its thing.
I'm pretty sure if the old guards here performed a comprehensive due diligence during their investors' tour, then it's a waiting game now.
Relax, accumulate, and reap the rewards...
The chance of SIAF being another Chinese accounting scandal is plausible, but small from what I know. But I'm often wrong.
My take is that the stock will take off when all the big money are well positioned with the exact number of shares they want. During this waiting game, the patient will accumulate while the weak get flustered, frustrated and fold. I think the market makers call this "shaking out the weak hands."
I own several Chinese plays and one of them is CXDC. It has amazing fundamentals and Morgan Stanley Asia even invested USD 150 million in it. However, the stock price has barely moved. But I'm not selling.
I can see some parallels between CXDC, SIAF and other stocks I've owned in the past.
I think SIAF is a good stock to accumulate for the next few months. Just my two cents.
Good money chasing after bad management.
Thanks for the link, Mike. It was nice seeing Cory Gregory in that video. The company's profile listed him as an "Executive Vice President" but didn't specify what he was in charge of. After watching the video, I now know he's the Executive Vice President of the Gym Tour Guide.
Our CEO Brad is great, our co-founder Cory is awesome, Jeremy is over the top, blah blah blah...
The company's lost money four consecutive years. We didn't give them our money to run a charity. Stop wasting investors' money and start making a profit. If they can't, then hand the company over to people who can.
BTW, after preparing for his fight at the Musclepharm gym, Rampage Jackson got his ass whooped by Jon Jones.
"Let your winners run, and cut your losers." --Wall Street adage.
Never get emotionally involved with a stock, its employees or management.
If we select 10 stocks on our watchlist, MSLP being one of them, and look 1-2 years ahead, which one has the most potential? If MSLP has the most potential according to your analysis, then hold it. If it doesn't have the most potential, then sell some or all of it and buy the stock that has the most potential according to your objective analysis.
A bad personal relationship is difficult to get out of; on the other hand, getting out of a bad relationship with a stock is as easy as the keyboard and mouse (or telephone for the old schoolers).
By human nature we'd like to be right with our decisions, so our ego dictates that we hold a stock we've bought until it appreciates in value, proving we're right. But in investing our ego can be a hindrance...
To be fair, those bio-science start-ups sporting market caps of $500+ million with no revenues are backed by large pharmaceutical companies. Those start-ups are engaged in FDA clinical trials that involve 5 stages (phases 0-4).
It takes millions, if not tens of millions, and years to complete all the 5 stages of the FDA approval process for a clinical trial. The market looks favourably at any drug/method/process approved beyond stage 3, thus insane prices for some of those start-ups.
Fuse is not conducting an FDA clinical trial for a drug, but for dietary supplements. Dietary supplements (isolated nutrients from food or herb) are not under FDA review as long as they do not make any claim of being able to treat or cure any illness or disease.
Right now most drugs and supplements are delivered through the gastrointestinal tract (pills, capsules, liquid) and through the bloodstream via injection. If Fuse's delivery system works, you could imagine the potential.
One application I could see is for someone who has a sore throat after yelling "disaster" all day. Rub the concoction on the throat and let the Drop Technology do the rest.
Have a look at CCCL. Up almost 100% in two months without any news. P/E is still around 1.16. Lots of room for pps growth.
Cramer said he likes Chinese plays for 2013.
CCCL is like the little engine that could. Now up almost 100% in 2 months with no news. Just quietly doing its thing. I wish all my holdings were like this.
P/E is still around 1.16. Lots of room for pps growth.
Go CCCL!
Shore, yes, PowerFuse did play a role in Tiger’s performance.
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"Tiger stopped by Elin's rental house one afternoon when their kids were out with a nanny and they had sex for the first time since the split," a source reportedly told the Enquirer.
According to another anonymous source, Tiger popped PowerFuse pre-sex and ElectroFuse during sex to enhance his performance.
“Now, I know what’s like to have a partner Powered by Fuse,” Elin said afterward.
According to a third source, Tiger used EnerJel post-sex for hip recovery and went straight to play in a tournament. The source also divulged that the proven performance of Fuse products was a major reason why Ms. Nordegren chose Tiger over billionaire Jamie Dingman and NHL player Douglas Murray.
PowerFuse, ElectroFuse, and EnerJel are made by a company called Fuse Science (trading symbol DROP). You can purchase them online at www.poweredbyfuse.com.
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Fuse’s marketing department should be all over this.
I'm tired of playing the "what if" game with this company because they keep changing the yardstick. So, if big money got involved, at what cost to current shareholders?
A 100% dilution? 200%? 300%?
Even at a 200% dilution, with the right management, this company may reach a market cap of $100 million one day. With current management, bankruptcy can be expected.
If I was an institutional investor, I would wait for the company to run out of money and go bankrupt. Then buy the "Musclepharm" name and trademark and install new management.
I'm new here and trying to figure things out but it seems to me you have a bipolar relationship with SIAF.
I'm assuming your rating is on a 10 scale and SIAF is on top of that list. Just in the last day alone you've called the CEO a scam artist and stated that even a 6 year old can run this company. If that's the case, I wonder why SIAF is on top of your list as the most attractive Chinese play.
Thank-you for keeping this board entertaining!
Not in Canada, my friend. It's taxed once and we get to claim a dividend tax credit on our tax return.
If the shares are in a self-registered retirement account, there's no tax on it at all.
I love Canada.
As a long and realist, the sales figure will be dismal. A $3 product needs to be in wide distribution to reach significant sales. It's a numbers game.
Apple's Macbook Pro with Retina display is a good niche product, but placing the $3 DROP as a niche product is asking for, in the words of our illustrious naysayer, a disaster!
Point of sales!
Point of sales!
Point of sales!
At 7-11!
At 7-11!
At 7-11!
Anyone ever watch the movie "Anger Management" starring Jack Nicholson and Adam Sandler?
They should make a sequel with some SIAF shareholders in the starring roles.
My bad, you were referring to "stock" dividends and not cash dividends.
Slap me silly. Reading on multiple screens right now.
That's awesome. I'm not trying to appear as a pumper. SIAF's been on my watchlist for several months; I'm now done my DD. IMO, there is no stock that I'm aware of that has the potential that SIAF does. This is based on fundamentals. I'm often wrong but SIAF looks like bona fide winner once the dilution ends.
I'm reading a lot of past posts and all the negativity seems unjustified, probably by those are a tad impatient.
Full accumulation mode on this baby.
A loser who happens to be running a USD 100+ million business a year and growing 100% yoy with a P/E of under 2. I wish I could be a loser like that instead of a macho keyboard warrior that I'm.
"Convicted felon Jonathan Lebed was paid to pump SIAF..."
A very inaccurate depiction of the actual events. He was charged and prosecuted when he was a minor about 12 years ago. He negotiated an out-of-court settlement with the SEC, so he was never "convicted" of anything. Being charged, prosecuted and convicted are three different legal processes.
Also, keep in mind that he did those things when he was 15 and 16. He's now 28 years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Lebed
I called Musclepharm and the receptionist said, "Hello, thank-you for calling Musclepharm. You must be one of our many happy investors!"
"You don't know how happy."
"That's good to hear. How may I help you?"
"I've been reading many articles on the 3 executives, you know, Musclehea--I mean, Brad, Cory, and Jeremy."
"Their business acumen is second to none, huh? We all love them here. What did you think about the articles?"
"They're very informative. I have one suggestion, though. Maybe future articles should include a group photo of the three, just to convey teamwork, the Musclepharm spirit. I have a perfect picture of Brad, Cory, and Jeremy that would work well in future articles. It was taken during Musclehea--I mean, Brad's NFL days."
"That's fantastic! Please send me a link of our three executives!"
http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32100000/the-three-stooges-three-stooges-32136878-1600-1090.jpg
I said that as a long I "hope" (I did use that exact word) the price would stay under $.60 as I accumulate throughout the year. I know for a fact that I don't know what the share price will be 12 months out, so I'm in "accumulation" mode, which means I'm going to continue buying a fixed number of shares every 1-4 months until the end of 2013. I'm either going to be averaging down or averaging up, but I'm certainly not going all-in with all the pending dilution.
IMO, this stock is a no brainer.
LC, I can see that at some point you'll be a very successful investor or trader, or a hybrid of the two if you decide. You're inquisitive and tend to gather information to project several scenarios of the future--what Warren Buffett calls "discounting the future back to the present" to obtain a fair valuation of a company.
My suggestion is that it may not be a good idea to do that with Musclepharm because they keep changing/amending the information (the variables) you need to approximate the future.
I'll give you a series of numbers and you try to predict the next number. 2, 4, 6, 10, 16...
You're either going to guess 20, 26, 28 or close to those numbers. However, if after you guessed, I said, "Sorry, the first number should have been 8. Oops, the third number should have been 32." And I keep "amending" the numbers. It would affect your ability to approximate the future, and after awhile, a reasonable person would probably want to quite playing.
I suspect that we may see spike in the share price or dead cat's bounce in the near future. Now, if you have several stocks on your watchlist, do any of them have more potential than Musclepharm?
I come to this board to clown around for the most part because I can't seem to take MP's management serious anymore.
Each to their own.
Anyone think there's going to be consolidation in the industry before the next run up?
Up about 90% in two months without any news or drawing any attention to itself. I love stocks like these.
On average, it takes about 3.7 years to get a patent approved. However,
"Many buyers will settle for Patent Pending status if they feel the invention is marketable, because it can take years to work through the patent approval process."
I've seen many bio-science companies, which FUSE is classified as, with market caps of $500 million to $1+ billion with no revenue. The delivery method that Fuse is working on is one big factor why I'm still in.
Not sure if this article's been posted here before but it's applicable to SIAF.
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Cramer: Looking for Direction? Look East
If you're looking for a new idea as you put money to work, Cramer said look to the east.
"I'd go with China in 2013," he said.
For quite some time Cramer has advocated putting money to work in China despite Street chatter that the nation's white hot economy had cooled off.
Cramer has been unflinching in his belief that a slowing China was not akin to a slow China.
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According to Reuters, since 2009, GDP has been no worse than 7.4%.
And new results suggest the economy of China is starting to percolate again. According to Reuters, China's annual economic growth may have quickened to 7.8% in the fourth quarter.
Although China can be difficult to gauge, Cramer believes Alcoa effectively confirmed the thesis.
In its latest release, Alcoa cited China as a major factor behind its improved outlook. CEO Klaus Kleinfeld said demand in China, the world's largest aluminum user, will grow 11 percent this year to 23 million metric tons as stimulus spending announced by the country's new leadership begins to show its effect.
"In fact, Kleinfeld is confident that when the government unveils its complete plans for growth in February they are going to dazzle, maybe accelerate expansion to 11%," said Cramer.
Considering the market is no stranger to China driving global growth, Cramer believes now is the time to position - before it's all priced in.
"You can buy Joy Global (JOY), the maker of excavation equipment that's needed to mine more coal, because the Chinese are addicted to coal and we know electric usage has gotten stronger and stronger as the year's gone on," said Cramer.
"You can also look at truck manufacturers as the Chinese, who pulled away from the truck market are now back with a vengeance."
However, Cramer thinks the best way to play China is with companies on the ground in China. But - rather than own individual stocks, he suggests a long position in the FXI, which is an ETF made up of Chinese stocks (FXI).
"Owning a basket of stocks in a market that's emerging from a huge bear mauling? That's more my style," he said.
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If he's not financing growth, then what are all the new fish farms, prawn farms and cattle ranches financed with?
Relax, my friend, accumulate and enjoy the ride.
But if some of us have gone "all-in", then that's another story.
Have a good day.
I'm very much looking forward to seeing what you'll do.
But let me summarize the events:
--CEO makes public announcement giving shareholders advance warning that he will issue shares throughout 2013, diluting current shareholders.
--shareholders are given opportunity to sell their shares before dilution commences.
--CEO actually does what he says and dilutes to finance incredible growth.
--some shareholders are frustrated, even disgruntled, and want to take unspecified drastic action against the company.
As the Chinese say, "We live in interesting times."