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What I find very interesting recently is the increased amount of positive attention on a stock that has very little volume and a not very active message board. Seems odd to me why people would even care about a stock that has such little volume and board chatter but the positive attention is increasing, makes you wonder why?
Typically, positive attention comes from stocks that are getting heavily promoted, have gone on massive runs, have high volume and board postings. That is not the case here so I wonder what the increased pounding of the positivity means?
People have to want a stock they believe in! If no one is willing to pay .011 for this stock, then its not worth .011
You can tell me everything about PAOG, and new clinics, and new doctors, and staffing new locations, and alternative medicine practices, and you can tell me how many restaurants you owned, and what the square ft price of their retail space is until you're blue in the face....
But in the end, its what someone is willing to pay for the stock that determines its value.
I don't see you on the ask, so why should anyone else be on the ask?
PAOG = trips
trips = garbage
garbage = PAOG
WAR! I will have funds cleared by then to 50k ready to buy PAOg!
Me and you can by together but we have to go to the Sanclucky clinic and use our coupons to get the 50 dollers off the ask price.
My friends have 50k to but theres is waiting to clear to. I will tell them that you have money waiting to clear, and they have money waiting to clear.
Paog + you money waiting + my 50k + my friends + paog 1.00 = millionairs!!
No matter how much PAOG falls, it will be called accumulation.
No matter how low the pps gets, its always a buy
No matter how much the downward trend continues, its always market manipulation
No matter how much people want to believe this is a real stock going to .25, its always a dream
Go poag
So that leaves another 275,000,000 shares they can use for another 750k on their "expansion" into other states...
tick tock till they use that toxic credit line
I rarely post here
PAOG = stock printing press
Fantastic! I am glad you see a road to success. I don't share the same sentiment.
I see a propped up clinic with sham doctors that are selling recommendations to get weed to smoke. They are selling alternative medicine therapies, yet they have no capacity to do any of them. No chiropractic, no massage therapy, no acupuncture, etc...
You have some people at the helm of PAOG with shady pasts as samsamiam has pointed out on numerous occasions. Yet all is ignored...
Whats even worse about all of this, is they're selling MJ like its the next best thing. Now what, we have an entire population doped up on weed (and some seriously strong weed at that) everyday to make their lives, their pain management, their drug addiction, easier to cope with???
Sad that we would condone this as a nation...
I wouldn't say its silly because this isn't a franchise that has a cookie cutter template to follow. We're not selling burritos here. This isn't a hype style business like a starbucks.
This is a facility that is selling recommendations to drug addicts!
Please don't compare apples to oranges when it comes to predicting whether or not PAOG clinics will be profitable based on what 1 does
So I just assume that because 1 Paog clinic made a net profit, that all should make a net profit???
Is that good business thinking? I didn't think so....
And how do you know the overhead is extremely low? Cost of commercial leases is expensive, cost of insurance, utilities, labor, skilled doctors, practitioners, malpractice insurance, lawyers, accountants are all very expensive. But you know this overhead is all very low because????? You run a mmj clinic??? Didn't think so....
Ive already got an entire board of people saying, 'gonna be a green Christmas, adding every dip, silverland, tick tock....
We need some balance here at PAOG
More debt = more shares
more shares = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = PAOG
Are you a MM?? Then you have no idea what the MM's want.
more clinics = more debt
More debt = more shares
more shares = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = PAOG
I could be wrong! You could definitely be right. I am not here to steer this board one way or another. I enjoy the positive and negative outlooks of PAOG.
Both views have legitimate cases to be made.
Samsamiam brings up a lot of history from the people running this company as less than honest people, yet everyone says, "that was then this is now".
If your telling me that the Q numbers are legit because it was reported, then why are the historys of the people running this company not taken with the same emphasis???
I don't understand your bias?
I've asked where all this alternative discipline revenue is coming from, and NO ONE can give me an answer, yet this is a fully reporting company????
Not playing games SooS, just trying to understand the entire story.
PAOG
Per your own words,
"Well with 1 corporate clinic open for less than half a quarter and a couple affiliate clinics open they did $165k in revenues...
That's more than 1 clinic.
Now per your words,
"yet 1 clinic opened for less than half a quarter did $160k "
So which is SooS????
GO PAOG
I just told you that the average interview, and examination for an mmj card takes about an hour.
And you come back and tell me that your kid gets a physical from a doctor to play sports in 5 minutes....
Aaaaaand that has what relevance to this discussion?
LMAOOOOOO
How am I deceiving? I gave a legitimate breakdown of what 1 clinic would need to do in order to get to a certain projection, and its impossible.
I tried to ask for a breakdown of how PAOGs revenues were broken down by category, and it doesn't exist.
Yet you come back and tell me that I'm painting a negative picture?????
The picture I'm painting is realistic. The picture that others are painting is fairytales
Yet you come after me?? GO after the posters here who are painting unrealistic goals for PAOG
Oh that's right, you wont....wonder why??
Then at this point you should take a second mortgage on the house and buy all the PAOG you can get because this is a sure thing.
Oh, and its fact that no stock on the otc has ever fudged, exaggerated, or just outright lied about numbers on a Q report.
LMAO
GO PAOG
People here seem to think that one clinic can do 300k per quarter.
What does it take to do that? How many people do they need to see? And how many mmj cards do they have to issue? Remember, not everyone who PAOG interviews gets a mmj card. Actually, its about half of people who interview will get denied according to a friend in AZ of mine who does the interviews.
$300,000/ 4 quarters = 75,000 per month
75,000 per month / 4 weeks = 18,750 per week
18,750 per week / 300 per patient = 62.5 patients a week
PAOG is only open 30 hours a week. Each interview takes on average 1 hour.
You would need 4 doctors per clinic, at a rate of issuing 50% of patients. They see would need to see 120 people a week. And that's assuming that every available time slot is filled with an appointment! We already know that people can go to various other avenues to get an mmj card, so there is no reason they HAVE to go to PAOG.
Its an unrealistic number, so I wish people here would stop projecting it. I'm all for fairness, but to keep saying 300k per quarter like a broken record is just pumping at that point.
There isn't enough time in the day to do 300k per quarter.
So lets bring in the alternative discipline revenue that people seem to think is going to happen.
Where do we see any massage therapy, chiropractic, nutritional guidance, acupuncture capability? We don't.
I asked the board for a breakdown of PAOGs revenue break down in their latest Q report, and no one answered because it doesn't exist. I couldn't find it.
So 1 person in a newspaper article proves that all this is possible???
I didn't think so....
I don't have to visit the clinics. Social media does a wonderful job these days to help the world stay connected. I have great video feeds of PAOG clinics, updates, new office space, parking lots, people with stethoscopes around their necks (LMAO)...
The only thing they don't show stockholders are the video feeds of paying customers in the clinics. In fact we have yet to see one picture or video of a clinic with someone in the waiting room, you know, with one of those Ohio opioid addicts scratching his wrists with 300 bucks in his pocket to give Gary!!!
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
PAOG = stinky
WOW quite a few in the million plus range!!
That leaves only 750 million shares available to dump...er, I mean scoop up
Sounds locked up to me!! LMAOOOOOOOOOO
more clinics = more debt
more debt = more shares
more shares = soon to be 1 billion authorized share count
1 billion authorized share count = stinky
stinky = PAOG
I am not contending that they don't have a real business, real store fronts, real website, real coupons! LMAO
I'm doubting the business model's ability to move this stock out of pinkyland and into something legitimate. Just because you believe this will do 300k per quarter per clinic, doesn't mean it going to happen.
Gary and his cohorts will take you guys to the cleaners...
GO PAOG
These clinics will have trouble doing 29k a month, let alone 290k per quarter!
I've done the math for you all of what it takes...I've given you the improbability of it being able to happen.
No furniture = no multi faceted revenues
no multi faceted revenues = no 290k per quarter
no 290k per quarter = more shares
more shares = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = paog
Nobody is worried about PAOG succeeding!!
PAOG will succeed in the production of more newly minted shares that are being printed as we speak in each of the 10 clinics!
There are no massage therapy tables, no chiropractic tables, no acupuncture equipment.
We have printers though!!!
290k spent on new Xerox printers to make those 100 milly shares!!
PAOG = Dilution!
Can someone in PAOG corporate post a video for social media for us all titled...
"Busy Day at PAOG clinic today... not a empty seat in the waiting room!!"
Or this one...
"All doctors busy giving recommendations to opioid addicts to quit doing opioids and start smoking weed!"
Or this one maybe...
" PAOG does 300k per clinic this quarter, that's 300k per clinic, 10 clinics, that 3 million for this quarter!!"
I'll wait....
tick tock
I rarely post here
GO PAOG
They are not multi faceted with multiple revenue streams.
Please show us all in the last Q report how the revenues were divided up between the different facets of this business
MMJ card revenue?
Chiropractic revenue?
Acupuncture revenue?
Massage therapy revenue?
Nutritional Guidance revenue?
Recommendation revenue?
Oh wait that's right, that doesn't exist!
PAOG = 1 revenue stream
1 revenue stream = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = PAOG
300k per clinic per quarter
So each clinic would have to do interviews and give mmj cards for 1000 people per quarter, 333 per month, at the limited hours they have open for business.
That tells me that they are packed from open to close, waiting rooms booked with appointments, correct?
Does that sound feasible to you????
We don't a have picture or a video of one person in a PAOG clinic, and you somehow think that this joint is going to do 333 cards a month?!?!
Sounds like you have your mmj card already!
Oh wait...WE HAVE COUPONS!! OH MY GOODNESS I ALMOST FORGOT!!
Shoot! that means we have to do even more business because we are giving away 15% of our revenue right off the bat...
Empty clinics = no revenue
no revenue = stinky
Stinky = paog
Wow! You mean that you can just 'recommend' that an opioid addict just stop taking opioids and they'll listen and start smoking weed? And just fork over $300 and walk out?!?! WOW
Thank you for over simplification...so much easier to see how the entire medical industry works thanks to you...
This business model will fail to produce these magical 300k per clinic profits that everyone here is projecting.
If someone can show me a picture or any proof of these clinics cranking out 10 mmj cards per day per clinic, I would gladly concede.
In fact, Ill be down in florida in a month to live, and I will sit in front of one of these clinics and report what I see. Maybe I'll even go in for a consultation for my medical condition of 'I'm one of the few who thinks that this will fail to produce the unicorn results that everyone else is expecting'
more clinics = more debt
more debt = more shares
more shares = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = paog
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For those new comers to this board.
There is no viable business model here. Per the company's own mouth-
“We are a medical center that services the need for recommendations, we are not a dispensary and do not sell cannabis in any form and are not a dispensary.
You think that a company that gives recommendations is going to make millions???? LMAOOOOOOOO
Doctor, what should I do?
Stop doing opioids and start smoking weed...
What?
That will be $300! Next patient nurse!!
LMAOOOOO
PAOG = Garbage!!!
Anyone who thinks that a comparison between Netflix and PAOG is a legitimate reasoning...well, I don't even have to say anymore...
PAOG = TRASH
TRASH = STINKY
STINKY = PAOG
Higher share price yet to be seen. Paog cant hold .015
more clinics = more debt
more debt = less money to pay doctors that give recommendations and don't do anything they learned in medical school.
LMAO = PAOG
The Company PAOG also offered clarification on the business model with respect to Cannabis sales: (paraphrase) “We are a medical center that services the need for recommendations, we are not a dispensary and do not sell cannabis in any form and are not a dispensary.
We are a medical center that services the need for recommendations????
Are you kidding me???
"Doctor, please, come quick! This patient needs a recommendation!"
"Step back nurse, I am a doctor...I will give this patient the recommendation he needs. I didn't go to medical school for nothing!"
This place is a joke! Even their doctors are doing nothing but giving recommendations?!?!!
PAOG = TOLIET
It is not about to run hard...how do I know that? I don't!
Neither do you so your predictions mean nothing
more clinics = more debt
More debt = more shares
more shares = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = paog
The stock didn't break anything on the news of 2 new clinics opening...why would it break anything on the news of 4 clinics? LMAO
This stock will do nothing on the news of 4 new clinics.
Down she goes into the trips for awhile.
PAOG = trips
trips = stinky
stinky = paog
The more clinics guarantees more debt, not capital gains
Capital gains don't come automatically from opening new clinics.
Debt is guaranteed.
SO if they converted 100 million shares into $290,000 in March, that's means that the firm that gave them the money is consistently dumping their shares on the open market.
Which, what does that mean???? DILUTION!!
Do you think that firm is holding on to those 100 million shares is just waiting for PAOAG to go to 1.00??? LMAO
You ladies have been getting diluted for the last 7 months!
And there is no end in sight, because no one knows how many of the 100 m shares they still have to dump!
More dilution = more shares
More shares = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = paog
Which just proves my point even further...more debt = more shares
Only a matter of time before they need another 290,000 for more clinics!
LOL more clinics = more shares
more shares = more dilution
more dilution = less value
Less value = stinky
stinky = PAOG
That's a valid point Drifthappy and I am no expert by any measure.
But I would venture an educated guess that the medical business (ie, acupuncture, chiropractic etc) has an entirely different set of rules and applications of licenses and requirements that the state and federal governments are much more stringent and expensive to get than a barbershop.
Show me that PAOG has all the requirements and licenses in place to have a chiropractic practice in one of their facilities.
I owned this since it was NWAV...when I first found this I thought this was a home run that no one found yet.
It wasn't till I saw the history of the ticker changes from this same company for the last six years that really turned me sour.
These kinds of companies that start as a medical supplier, then change to a mj company, then change to a electronics maker, then change to...etc they are all scams. Just printing new shares over and over.
I am relieved to hear that this is play money for you.
There is a ton of money to be made here, just not in a long term buy and hold. This is a buy at .008 and a sell on the next PR that they had another net profitable quarter. I am curious to know why your financial advisor thinks this is a joke when you have a real company, with real revenues, and real offices...
My guess is because he knows its a joke...
Cheers mate
Do you understand what it takes to open a chiropractic office?? a massage therapy practice??? An acupuncture practice??
That's not what PAOG is doing...there is nothing on paper to show me that they have applied for all the licenses involved with opening these kinds of businesses, OR, have the intent to venture into those alternative medicine practices themselves.
And even if PAOG has a list of practitioners that they are referring clients to, what revenue stream is that producing???
Listen, I hope that this is a viable business that makes you and the fine people here a lot of money. But when you have an opportunity like this, and no one wants it at a penny a share, you have to scratch your head and think, whats really going on here.
Don't worry, before the end of 2017, the PPS will be lower, much lower than .01
Thank you for a well thought out opinion! I can always appreciate that.
I personally, cant see how this is a viable business model. Once the initial interview is done, and the customer pays their 300, that is the end of the revenue stream for PAOG.
They are not getting any revenue from acupuncture, massage therapy, chiropractic, nutritional guidance, and all these other facets that they are promoting. Maybe they're getting a referral fee? Buts that nominal.
If they were getting ALL the revenues from all those different alternative medicine disciplines, ok then, I could start to see something with some depth forming.
But that isn't what we have here.
People can gain all the information that PAOG is selling for free on line. As someone else stated, seniors can get their mj cards from the state for cheaper.
As to the debt they taking on to open new clinics, and for you to say that you have no idea where the money is coming from is very troubling to me, especially, ESPECIALLY, if I had 10 grand on the line.
I'm glad to see your cost average is so low, but sorry to see that you could have sold in the .02's for a quadruple profit.
There is zero urgency to put any money here right now. There is no buying pressure, no hurry, no reason.
It will just keep sliding and sliding...heck they just announced 2 new locations, and its still sliding downward?!?!?!?
But one thing is for sure, they need capital to expand. And you seem like a bright guy Bull68...where is all this money coming from to open these new locations, and take on commercial rent space, and refurb all these offices, and staff doctors with salaries, and salaried employees, and bills, and insurance...etc etc...where is all this money coming from??
Not to mention I'm sure the ceo takes a hefty salary.
And those fancy coupons, those aren't cheap...where did that money come from???
Oh that's right....DILUTON!!!!
If I was going to buy this, I'll wait until this gets to .006 again.
There is zero urgency to put any money here right now. There is no buying pressure, no hurry, no reason.
It will just keep sliding and sliding...heck they just announced 2 new locations, and its still sliding downward?!?!?!?
But one thing is for sure, they need capital to expand. And you seem like a bright guy Bull68...where is all this money coming from to open these new locations, and take on commercial rent space, and refurb all these offices, and staff doctors with salaries, and salaried employees, and bills, and insurance...etc etc...where is all this money coming from??
Not to mention I'm sure the ceo takes a hefty salary.
And those fancy coupons, those aren't cheap...where did that money come from???
Oh that's right....DILUTON!!!!
LMAO
toilet = stinky
stinky = paog
more clinics more debt
GO PAOG