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dolphinsmike, thank you for the update regarding "Red and JJ", I have been a bit out of touch in the last two weeks, I felt the articles gives a view of where we could have been, had HJJ, not given google, the latches. Let see, how it develops from here, The case in Germany, is a bit down the road, it may complicate how VRNG manages their funds for the battles to come. In the mean time I am holding on to my investment for now, thank you again for the update, GLTA
stockbar, thank you for the clear message, in our case VRNG, has the hurdles of HJJ, who has not taken into consideration the Jury's findings and has not acted on the results. Needless to say the error from our legal team of not having included from the beginning willful infringement. "Red Angus" and "JJ" have not been on the board for quite some time, I hope if they see your posting and this comment to come on and share their opinion. Thank you again, VRNG should be right along with SPEX, in the low teens by now. I believe we wil be up there soon. That is MHO, GTLA
Red, thank you for your candid opinion to the overall position the case is in. I am not an attorney as you know, but it sure appears that JJ got himself in between the cracks. He should be dictating his last and final rulings on the matter and let the chips on VRNG'S favor, thank you again. GLTA.
Red Angus, JJ, can you help out deciphering 897, what should the Judge do in your opinion.
flyersdh, greetings, good morning to all, I agree with the conversation and the reports that are taking place, they are getting ready to sell as soon as it goes up, how high no one knows. If it is a sttlement, then we do not have to worry about going back to court and battle Google, then we have to battle VRNG'S board and find out in which direction the company is going to go. We have not received any information how things are going in Germany or the UK. Why can't they give us some information as to how all those suits are going, have we heard anything from Microsoft?, Silence is interesting keeps everyone in the DARK. GLTA
Tom4, thank you, for welcoming be back. I have been in the sidelines watching the evolution of VRNG'S future, I may say a very bright one if we can get a final, favorable solution to the Judicial obstacles. We should be cleared out of the Judicial maze soon. Let see what JJ has to say after the 15th, it will be very interesting and I believe profitable as well for us who have waited and toiled with not only the Judicial side but the Shorts as well. Thank you again for your kind welcoming. GLTA
Drax, one of the Board err was not to have a legal team in place prior to executing. We will never know how things would have developed early on. Only my opinion, GLTA
stockbar, can you share with us from what source this "rumor" or "information" came from? it is important that we know the source. Thank you. GLTA
Only good things come out of positive thinking, lot's of bad smell comes out of other holes. Let's get back to basics and point blank ask GESI'S board to put forth what the plans are, when are they going to be executed and when can we visit the Plant. Only my opinion, (30 days away from my 1st anniversary to GESI), still holding over one million, hopeful that it will be my 401 retirememt. GLTA
Rainmaker, thank you for the good news, the addition of Mr. Charkow, to the legal team of VRNG is welcomed. It does not take a rocket scientist to read in between the lines of the message VRNG'S board in sending out not only to the companies infringing on their patents but to the Judicial System as well, a breath of fresh air to VRNG'S legal department. It is only my opinion, my position is very long with VRNG. GLTA.
Red Angus, JJ, Tom4, reference to the proposed request of google to not go after any other company that use vrng's patents is quite clear, these are companies that are using google systems and will hurt google in the long run. Now, the 64 million dollar question is what does VRNG'S board has in mind for the future of the company? is it enough to settle with google for a one time 1.87 Billion? roughly about $23.00 (+/-) or keep suing other companies that are infringing on their patents. A more define way as to how is going to end is in the hands of Judge Jackson. Perhaps a more sophisticated Judge Miller may bring google to offer somewhere between 2.5 to 5 Billion then perhaps they will settle. It is only my opinion, I am very long with my shares of VRNG. GLTA
subslover, thank you for the update. CNBC, radio was talking about Australia last night and in their comments mentioned Lynas Corporation, well the news from Lynas is that they will be shipping their processed rare earth product from Malaysia by next month, this means there will be an uptick in the pps. that is my opinion regarding this piece of news. Need to keep an eye on this one from this point on it is MHO, by the way I did have a good weekend hope you had the same. GLTA.
subslover, thank you for the good wishes. Wishing you also the very best this new year for you and your family. Well, it is good news that the crowd shrunk on the way to the gathering. We can see already this a.m. it picked up $.04, lets hope that is the beginning of a good year for LYCFS. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL AND GLTYA WITH LYCFS THIS YEAR.
Red, first of all happy new year to you and all. Besides all the blunders the attorneys for VRNG have committed are the directors or the PR prohibited by the court to comment on the ongoing case in Germany and England, I think that if there are good news that could help the PPS, why not let us know what is going on.
'subslover', well, there you have it, they are planning a hunger strike, like if they did not need to put food on their table. I have not averaged down with the hope that it was going back to $1.25 since I got in six months ago at around $1.06, should have sold on the last good spike that was around $.95 and take my loss at that time, now I am with you and see if it gets back somewhere decent to bail out, it does not look to good for Lynas for the future with this turmoil going on. Wishing you the very best of the season, lets hope for a better new year. GLTY
'subslover' thank you for the update, the only thing that will keep the opposition quiet is for Lynas to crank up production begin to produce revenues and for the locals to start benefiting from the operation. I've had LYSCF for over eight months, holding 30,000, in at $1.06, I believe in the industry the only one who will be producing rare earth metals other than CHINA. Thank you again for the update, I visit often to look for good news and this is the beginning. GLTA
'Red', your opinion, how much longer, 6 Months, 1 year?, to see pps go up past the last high $5.73. thank you for all your guidance and assistance.
'subslover', I agree with you, there are conflicting interests involved in this situation. That's when you realize that by helping Countries to develop and create jobs for their citizens comes back to HURT YOUR COMPANY, as the good old saying goes "NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED", GLTA.
'keith richards' The present pps of VHC, did not occur overnight, it took some time for it to get where they are. It is what VRNG can become in due time. I brought this sample to let investors know where we can travel with VRNG. I am sure that most investors at this time will sell if it gets to $8.00 after the Judge rules in the next few days. I am for one that will sell enough of my shares to cover my present investment and let the rest ride and keep an eye on the direction of how the directors of VRNG take the company.
'jaws123', I do not know how long you have been with VRNG,it has been down to $1.75 less than 30 days ago, and it has been as high as $5.73 less than 45 days ago. Are you in for a quick buck or are you in for the long run? Do not sell your stock now if you are for the long run. Greater rewards are in the future of VRNG, the principle of this company is that no matter who uses their patents will be asked to pay Royalties, just go and look up "VHC" today, right now is at $34.95, that is where VRNG will be as soon as we are out of litigation with Google. Do not sell your stock now, do not give the chance to the shorts and the M/M to steal from you. GLTA.
'Tom', I am with you 100%, this is in the hands of an individual, it depends how he is feeling the day he makes his decision, although he knows down deep he screwed up big time. I believe that we are very close to the $5, it will happen before the end of the year, then again with the shorts and M/M may bring it down to the high $2's. do not sell your profits and future retirement hang on, this may be like this through Feb. I am hanging on to this one, lost with Zinga, and others total down in a couple of big ones. I know this one will make up for the other losses. GLTA.
'shark44',this is what happens when you have investors that bought thinking this was going to be walk through the park and have collected double their investment. I am also in with 37,500 and will pick up the other 2,500 if it goes under $3 and pick up some more.
VRNG should start immediate legal action against other entities that have infringed their patents as soon as JJ clarifies our position, that is my "opinion". Would like to hear from "Red Angus", 'JJ' an other legal minds regarding this position. GLTA.
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'snow54', I've had that concern since the Judge ruled that VRNG, did not have the rights to prior rights to collect on the patents going back to 2004. That judgement was supposed to have been discussed in his chambers not publicly. Note that he did this purposely, giving a good lead to Google not having to pay for past uses and at the same time a way for VRNG to appeal for a retrial of that JUDGES screw up of that part of the trial only. Now he does not whether to S..T or get off the POT, only my opinion.
good morning Tom, I agree with you, this is not for everyone, it's been a hell of a ride. At this time if it gets to $5, unload 50% "JMO" and let see what the rest of the ride will be. as always is good to read your opinion. Have not seen much of "RED" or "J.J.". well have a good turkey dinner, and to all with VRGN, may you have a wonderful "FAMILY DAY", GLTOA
'kbtarl', "you get your price", keep shorts out, the higher the price means the value of the share is there, will bring in new investors and stabilize the price of the share accordingly. Agree that without the Judge's final blessing we really don't know where the price will be. In the mean time we at least know the price of the share is in the $5 to $7 range, so why sell so low, unless you are playing the high's and low's. That is my Opinion.
'Red', I agree with you, the control of the pps is not with the long position at this time. The remedy for "Longs" is to put their share for sale at a high price, don't know where the price should be, my guess at least over $9.00. JMHO.
All of the sudden we have Patents Attorneys coming out of the woodwork. Listen, and listen well, if you are not happy with VRNG, sell the shares and move on. Stop being negative by injecting your comments into a positive thinking group of investors. We would really appreciate it. Long all the way with VRNG. GLTYA.
'stockbar', good game plan, I will be right behind you, looking for low 3's and high 2's. it will be worth it for averaging for anyone who needs to be near $3, to bring it down into the high 2's. JMHO, GLTA.
'Tom4", good morning to you as well, it's been a crazzy ride I also got up kind of early 04:00 etd, I have a good feeling that someone is watching us very closely and NOV. 14th will be a great day, whatever the announcement says, they have to say it TCTACES, if you get the drift. We are in for good things coming up here. Patience is the name of the game, (IMD) thanks 'Tom4' needed that $$$$, JMHO. GLTA
'pkdaddy64', this is not exactly what I was trying to get 'JJ' and 'Red' to answer regarding the next owner if VRNG is sold, will the new owners have the rights to an "Injunction" if the patents would be put to use and then emulate what "VHC" has done with their patents, created a wealth of royalties and their pps is somewhere in the $30's last time I checked. IMHO it would hit it out of the ball park.
'JJ', thank you for your response, hope that 'Red' picks up on your remarks, let see what he has to say. Maybe VRNG, can emulate what VHC has done with their "Patents" bringing royalties for years to come. IMHO.
'JJ' & 'Red", thank you again for your input helping the rest of us try to understand this complicated deal. I have a question for both of you. What happens to the case if someone buys VRNG, will it be part of the purchase? if the buyer has use for the patents will then be there grounds for an injunction? thank you for your kind response.
'JOEBIZ' That is the answer EVERYONE SHOULD SELL WITH A PRICE OF NOT LESS THAN $7, TO $8, YOU WANT MY SHARES THEY ARE FOR SALE AT $7.53, THERE ARE 35,000 OF THEM COME AND GET THEM!!!!!!! GLTAL,THIS IS MHO. GO VRNG GO!!!!
'JJ', agree with you, as soon as the Judge confirms the Jury's decision it will have an UP reaction, OMHO. Have you heard from 'Red Angus' would like to hear his take. You are a good son and family man taking your dad to see your Uncle, sorry to hear about that, at the end of the day the only thing we do have is our families have a safe journey, we'll see you whenever. GLTY&A.
'JJ' thank you I hope that he is not missing this part, but he had to take care of the herd. We will celebrate for him today or whenever. GLTY
'bigB', seems that momo is part of the group that flew over the Cuckoo's nest.
'JJ' have you heard from 'Red Angus" today?
'JJSeabrook', why even take the time to answer someone who does not even knows that where the Jury is now is in the VRNG awarding phase. They are doing this just to makes us react to their innocent baseless comments. GO VRNG GO, GLTA.
'Red Angus', It's really in God's hand, although he is watching, a lot can happen when the Judge is siding along with Lucifer. I hope that Saint Cayetano is been in touch with the Supreme Court and intercede for the Juror's decision to come in the right side of the Law. Let's all have faith and be positive there are no "If's, And's or But's" there is only faith and being positive. Red, thank you for the light side of your comment, GLTA.