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This is not the bext board in any category, but postings "aren't bad". They certainly are not overwhelming in numbers.
I see that SI is DOWN yet again. Not auspicious at all. This kind of thing generally signals the beginning of the end.
These kind of sites take a lot more work than people understand.
SI, for the class of site it is, needs more staff and better hardware/software. The people who post on it, "run it". But the staff has to be technically proficient to keep it smoothly functioning. What your product is, is simple clean, fast conferencing software, promoting a high degree of interaction. (fuel is controversy, and "interest".) This functions best without anyone interfering. The degree to which SI does interfere when it acts on post content is at best irritating. It serves no purpose. The only privileges that ever need be suspended are where posters advertise blatantly and use extreme vulgarity that would be out of place at a frat party.
The interface in conferencing software is really imoportant. It has to be ultra fast, or people lose patience. Generally the moderated boards or those that espouse only one party line bore the most people. Only the free for all concept works, really.
SI succeeded because it had the facility when it began of allowing the free promotion of mining companies and tech companies during their respective booms. It also had clean, fast, easy to use software that was non threaded. Threading does not promote good interaction except on hot button topics. It promotes a messy non thematic thread. You want a round table effect to keep currency. The inbox concept was a major promoter of interaction. The Raging Bull and Stockhouse, thought they had a better concept but is missed the point. Stockhouse has done all right, but does everything wrong as far as software goes. Their chearleader sites are boring and not well liked. Moderators are not the answer.
Oh gold companies? I am in one! Tell me what you like and why. Right now I am looking at ITF.
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They have a lot of paper on the street.
There was some indication of continuance at one time. Usually these deposits don't just evaporate in a few holes.
Remodeling, eh...
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The GSC has harrowing tales of the pt-gabbro massif nth straddles.
The GSC is the geological slurvey of Kanada. It used to date rocks that were volcanic, before people thought they could be dated. This resulted in rock replication, a phenomonon known only in Kanada.
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Prospector looking for Jade atop Mt. Logan in the St. Elias's
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2762238
Peak to Peak analysis.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=19984771
http://www.moonstone.com/news_logan.htm
Hawaii these days. Stop mauning about things.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg_multireplies.gsp?msgid=19984771
Personally, I am feeling a bit peaked.
Pass the oxygen and banned substances.
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I have heard of them, and spoken to their honchissimus, Richard what's his name.
Pd Pt in Sudbury, Shakespeare Twp. Their speach at the OPA was much more exciting than any number of their announcements. I always have trouble reconciling their basic explo data compared to the glowing talks. Ah well, maybe I just don't see the big picshah. They do have a few tons of stuff. I don't know about mining it. Time will tell.
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I am symbolically challenged. What is UMJ and where are they drilling?
CDY (Cassidy in Guinea) will someday make a mine I feel.
Although PEX has more shares than Carter has pills, it has a bit of gold here and there.
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Combo names from yore were always more interesting than what we come up with these days. Rayrock Yellowknife, Three Ducks Syndicate, Cataraqui Mines, Nudulama Mines, The Cook Land Company, British Matachewan Gold Mines Ltd., New Telluride Gold Mines of Canada Ltd, Kirkland Kalgoorlie Ltd, Robin Red Lake Mines.
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OK, I'll bite, what do they do when they are at home?
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Why is it, the women I kick out of bed, you end up with pictures of on the front cover of magazines?
Jes askin'.
So what are your favourite summer stocks?
NTH, MSA, Shield Gold Inc......
Que passe.
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What is good for Ihub is good for the Al-Quaeda.
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SI is dead.
Silently refusing to post any more messages, it has hung its silicon head, and wandered back into its cave. An announcement is expected that it has decide to close its silicon doors, and forever hush its virtual voice. Its day of roaring out the rumours is gone.
Si is dead.
Long live SI.
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I was at that party! You are wrong about the 30 dollars. I went through the pockets of every coat on the bed, and I distinctly recall that there were two 20's and ten stuck together in the left hand pocket of the maroon leather jacket with the crossed rock hammers on the back.
If you want your jacket back, you have to give the jacket back you have on. Of course if the money is missing, where did it go? Unless of course two of the bills are stuck together. That is totally different. It was never counted in the first place, so it is "free" money. Only the people at the orphanage will miss it when the government tells them "Sorry, we are short 20 bucks, have to cut back on your cheques this month, it was those conservatives who overspent when they were the government, now we all suffer."
Good thing he did not leave a map of the orebody in the pocket. He would have got that back, and he would owe the government money for the water rights.
Life is only fair if you make it that way first.
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I don't know anybody in the company or their history. No idea the quality of the play they are involved in. Panoro is a mystero a moi.
They have a fairly large float. 19 million. (Escrow is only 4.2 million or so.) I guess they get that from buying and relisting a shell. This means the insiders either don't hold enough of it, or that they can dump their stock, which is something to watch for.
It would be better if someone were qualifying the attributes that they went into detail as to why they thought that. What I watch for, are statements like "the geologist is well known to a broker whom he went to school with", and " he is the most honest(est) person I know." or he is a "real straight shooter".. etc.. The more the honesty is plonked, the more you may doubt it. On the other hand where the crooks stab each other, they are generally right. They would know.
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Northern Securities of Calgary is doing it. It's a CPC (JCP/Blind Pool etc) so it cannot be a bought deal. CPC's are not underwritten. Little people do them. Shield has 200K in it, and will raise an additional 400K in the IPO round, which will take place soon. Then it's mining maggot time. Northern's # which I never get tired of telling people is 8669661234 X 5970
Shield will eventually be the largest gold mining company in the solar system. This will take some time. A quintessential drawer stock.
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Neat Tonka Toy. I want a couple for my mine.
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It will be a while yet. The IPO is not even for one month or more. The QT a few months yet. Mex has to follow that.
It's by no means in the can. Just at a talk stage. We could get a mex porphyry too, but it's too large a target.
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2 million ounces? That would be in the next 6 months. It will take a while to develop 20 million ounces there. Years. We could say 20 million is the "model" or advanced target. We could say 2 million is the near term goal.
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Send a chocolate layer cake with a golden saw in it. Not a word of this to anyone. They keep me in a dungeon with rats a foot long, chained to this clammy wall, and play rock and roll tunes all night and day from a walkman taped to one of my ears. The songs are by a band called the Elbonian Embassy.("we are just practicing") Every hour they throw the the kitchen slop pail at me (I think it's the kitchen, but don't ever eat there.) The people running The Prison of Zenda are very cruel and abstemious.
Return to Zenda, Return to Zenda, address unknown.
aaaaaaaaarrrgggghhh! Please help. Get me the phone number of Amnesty International.
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I have no idea what is going on, on this board, but I just decided to post to break the monotony. On the other hand, Mex AG-AU can now be owned 100% (if you can keep the land otherwise) so there is a big run on gold down there. Even Shieldcat may look at a property down there that has oodles of ounces already. Provided the price is right.
I heard a scurrilous rumour to the effect that KGI was "after" some of Zenda's property, as some of KGI's zones run right into l'il ole Zenda's ground. Gee. I hear where Zenda is looking for a drill to punch some holes in their KL property.
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You mean it will go North? I tend to in agreeance. (Shield will mimic NWT when it goes publicus.)
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New high in gold's inexorable rise reached. Psyche barriers are being breached, giving rise to the feeling that gold has new upward momo.
Asia / Europe Spot Price
MARKET IS OPEN
Will close in 7 hours 30 minutes
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Metals Bid Ask Change from NY close
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Gold 425.30 425.80 +3.00 +0.71 %
Silver 7.82 7.84 +0.07 +0.90 %
Platinum 894.00 904.00 +8.00 +0.90 %
Palladium 286.00 296.00 -1.00 -0.35 %
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Last Update on Mar 31, 2004 at 06:00.56
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oops. posted twice. sorry about that. really sorry. But it is really no never mind, as this post is probably not much less irrelevant and content barren than most of my posts. so what can we do to inject relevance here? hmmmm..... ok, I got one. Gold. It's a metal. We knew that. Did you know it was 419 dollars this morning? You did? So are we ready for a point? OK. Our point is a question. Is this the start of a continuous upward ramp in the near term in gold price?
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Are there any mining companies out there that are honest, or can afford to be? I suppose they would call themselves "Crooks 'R Us Ltd.", if they were completely candid.
Any contributions, testimonials or anecdotes would be appreciated, even if only historical. It would be too much to ask to find a competent AND honest organization to invest in I suppose, so we will rule out finding any contemporary issuers.
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You could ask for more money.
Shield now has a broker signed for its IPO. Northern Securities out of Calgary. Soon the Shield Gold people will be genuine mining maggots.
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You put up a map of the forbidden territory.
Yukont do that.
It's against the law of the great Pajandrum. Of course he and his court are in a scandal_of_money (again), so they are a bit disrtracted and may not notice.
The flux over time is that the dollario acquistivitatus liberalis get into deep doo-doo when someone finds out how much money their errant secretive minions have been stealing for noble purposes, about every 37 months. Lately they have been getting caught in the splatter every 11.5 months, so the flux is starting to shudder dangerously, signalling the onset of a precipitous singularity of the type that once engulfed the conservitatus_filthus_rigidus. Soon it will degrade into simple harmonic motion and the castle will come crashing down upon them.
All in all their shenangigans have been relatively mild. Between shooter control, bad Stewartship grants, and patronage hand-outs they have only wasted 4 billion dollars that we know of. Or enough money to run medicare in Ontario for 3 months, buy 40 EMR machines, or build 10 hospitals. It would also pay the salaries of the one million Ontario snivel slurvants for one month. It's a drop in the bucket as the liberalis_aquisitatus say.
In the meantime, what would a fish say?
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http://www.microsuck.com
I bought the Microsnot professional development system a while back, intent on building keen databases from blazing basic code. It has a 128 meg limit. Also it would not work across a network. 6 months later they brought out Visual Basic, and obsoleted my code. I asked about an upgrade. They said, "there is no upgrade to VB from MPDS-Basic, you just have to buy VB." I bought VB. It had no procedural code or way of testing the state of objects from the main loop except "by hand" i.e. keeping track yourself.
After about 300 objects it crashed. When trying to write small sorts outside their sort engine, it slowed to a crawl on lists 1000 lines long. More Microsnot crap. 1200 dollars and no solution. I spent 12,000 dollars on Microsnot software with no chance of developing commercial code at all. C++ was the only way, and that is memory leak hell. Microfocus Cobol is probably a better solution. DBII, Rbase, etc.. Foxbase perhaps.
Visual languages are just canned routines hooked to windows. You are better off in DOS. Data engines are one thing. Buffers are another. Procedural logic is yet another. Window builds and front ends are yet another. Then there are "events". Event loops for windows and buttons aren't the whole point of code. But you don't want to be rebuilding the wheel every time out on that for sure.
A better philosophy is GtK if it were not so buggy. You can do it in Windows too. I don't know about windows 2,000 but it works in windows 98.
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Well, that is, it's about the gold promotion, stupid.
Most people just want cheap stock.
We have lots of that.
We also have the chance of mining lots of cheap gold. Lots and lots. If we get lots and lots of money. Know where we can get that?
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I see SI is back up sort of.
Some teething problems in finding messages when you reply to a post, but you can post and find things.
Fix that database.
I see where they want to go to aSP pages. They will be sorry. Solaris and Oracle are industrial strength if you run them right. Way more reliable than any MS server crapola.
Of course they could serve asp pages from a Linux server. That works. It is time some people took a page out the reliability handbook. Linus is the most reliable and debugged Unix and Unix built the net. Microsoft serfs that reliability, it does not create it.
I know some people running SQL databases from MS. One million hits a day and lots of bytes transfer. Whenever the system goes down, it is one of the 7 MS servers. It is never the Linux front end. When I talked to the server farm admin people they said they would NEVER install another NT server. Count not take the pain. They ran 100 Linux machines for months at a time without a burp.
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They need better checking and optimization if they are using SQL. Time to hire an Oracle expert and SQL opmization person and get their data base cleaned up.
It is not that hard to go inside the database and fix corrupted tables is you know what you are doing. They may have to pare it down in size or redesign their database. Either way it could be expensive.
It shows in database work, you have to know what you are doing. Tables that just keep growing can become unmanageable and SQL is not made for really big monolithic tables. SQL error checking is weak.
They should be using something like the Empress Database ($100K). The database people know when they have you by the balls.
I am not saying Oracle 8i is that bad. But Oracle makes big money by making big databases expensive. In the days of 80 gige drives it is obvious the neophyte can run truly big data. Dont do it in MS access.
If they are not running Linux and a relational database that has good consistency checking with a NAS system, and RAID drives with backup and rollback to previous versions of their tables, then they deserve what they get. Like most computer users they were probably running in an ignorance is bliss state.
Kinda like users of Microsoft XP.
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Best historical intersection for MSA in the 50s was 500 feet of 7% copper. I dont know that this was so much oversold now as undersold then.
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You may have to hire an oracle expert and spend the 5K or whatever to repair the table. Large databases should not be run with SQL as it can cause problems.
Bob should be getting familiar with these DBCC commands about now.
CHECKALLOC
CHECKCATALOG
CHECKDB
CHECKIDENT
CHECKSTORAGE
CHECKTABEL
FIX_AL
FIX_TEXT
INDEXALLOC
NEWALLOC
TABLEALLOC
TEXTALL
TEXTALLOC
UPDATEUSAGE
dll_name (free) (microsoft)
DBREPAIR
SHRINKDB
INPUTBUFFER
LOG
OPENTRAN
OUTPUTBUFFER
PAGE
TRACEOFF
TRACEON
TRACESTATUS
DBREINDEX
GAMINIT
MEMUSAGE
PAGE
PERFMON
PINTABLE
PROCCACHE
REINDEX
ROWLOCK
SHOWCONTIG
SHOWSTATISTICS
SQLPERF
TUNE
UNPINTABLE
USEROPTIONS
These are used as:
DBCC CHECKTABLE
GO
or
DBCC CHECKCATALOG(si_base)
GO
These commands are usually run from within a checking program
that is run in off hours usually. For complete syntax refer to sybase or other transact-SQL manuals.
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Looks like the end of SI alright. Once you are in Oracle SQL Hell, there is no turning back. Oracles error messages are just close enough to making sense to be deceiving. Dont be fooled. It really is meant to make no sense at all, but only if you really know what you are doing.
At a certain magic number, a database just gives up and starts producing continuous arrors until you jump. Sort of like Windows XP.
Perhaps they can start over with a new site.
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you can join ihub for free, but you can never leave unless you bribe appropriate persons.
There are only 95 companies or areas on this board and it is kind of slow, really. the free posters can make 18 posts a day I believe.
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Probably a DOS.
They may have started using microsoft servers.
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sort of.
It may do a deal with Shield Gold Inc. A new IPO that is being handled by Northern out of Calgary. Shield has 200K and is looking to raise 400 on the IPO at 20 cents. Thereafter there isa property deal they can do that is pre-production in mining gold in Ontario. Apparently too they have oodles of other projects lined up that are substantial and also pre-production.
Its the gold, stupid.
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They may look at some Mex property I heard. Depends. Money etc.
25 cents out of the box, then 40 cents for 1 mill and then 60 to 80 after that.
Wait and see.
Sounds big.
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chicka-boom!
Right, its the grills on the boom that was holding the bird down, not the boom itself. Gotta work on that.
One grill at a time.
I heard via the winevine that Shield Gold Inc. would be doing its IPO via Northern Securities in Calgary and a slightly nefarious broker called Trevor Countryman, who can be reached at 866-966-1234 ext 5970. What have you heard?
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