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this week?
same old same old to be honest - been like that from day 1 almost. I really can't see how the position can be recovered without at least some confirmation that they actually have done something other than write up worthless PR's. What surprises me most is how quiet Molen has been recently - maybe he is captaining the slow boat to China - sorry Thailand!
I guess it must be the week after :)
Will do at some point - ty. tbh I was more interested in making the point that this lot haven't got a clue what is going on and still have no idea when, where or what. One thing for certain is they are true to form and it is becoming so easy to predict.
Gl
tick, tick, tick, tick :)
The ROI "could" have been 50% less than your original statement? Do we assume then that 40% ROI in Thailand might be 20%?
Mr Manji worked for Meridian who "HAD" a a division that made fire logs and pellets. What does that prove about a factory in Calgary? Nothing at all. Don't forget this is a group of people who have LOI's for all sorts of wonderful projects that have come to nothing even with vague venues confirmed and high profile names on board.
Give us an address - and not the corner shop PO Box please - for the factory in Calgary - if it existed surely that would be the easiest task in the world!
BTW I connected all the dots and they disappeared up Molen's rear end where most of this seems to eminate from.
So they had an existing business in Calgary that was making 20% ROI - not bad in the current global economy - but nobody can qualify or prove that ever existed and now on a letter of intent they have shipped everything to the otherside of the world?
Am I missing something here?
If they are already in Thailand or on their way they must have come from somewhere if they have been in use. Where and when? It isn't rocket science!
Pray do tell where this "existing" equipment is currently in use?
3 days and counting
I hope you win - we will all benefit :)
I like your style!
The 5th was the offer - take it or leave it. One bit of advice - sometimes inside information in betting does not always override the form - look at the form to date and I backing that to beat your inside information.
They need to prove they have more than just PR imho
Sorry my friend but no. Posts made on here have been "next week" almost from the outset and each week nothing happens other than another "next week" comment or some PR. I know from your comments and conversations with Vega and NFI that you are confident this is a legitimate concern. I would like to beleive the same however until something more than PR with little substance is replaced by hard fact then the jury must remain out. The post you made that prompted my offer of a bet was the confidence you had in your contact plus my belief that to prove this company actually does have a track record shouldn't be too difficult for someone close or in the know to prove. After all they have over 90 years experience and as the PRs of December 4 and January 29 clearly state - they manufacture - not hope to or expect to.
The Vega's probably have no real substance and just go up in a puff of smoke :)
Nothing I would love to see more, after all who wants to lose money, but this has gone on for so long that I just can't see it ever taking off. Then again what is one more week?
Sorry can't agree with that. The PR's so far from this crowd have included too many things in the past that are "happening" ie. LAPT venues etc. that came to nothing. They could very easily spew out some "contracts" that may happen or equipment that is ordered that can't be proven. After all didn't they use substantial funds to acquire Gaming Software?
If I recall Bob was coming back to you with some quantifiable data on the company and its present business activities which I interpreted as something that was going to prove this was prior to the takeover more than a PO Box.
btw - cigars are definately on the agenda but not those dodgy Dom Rep ones :)
you are on for a bottle of scotch for some news that confirms either the present existence of a manufacturing plant or historic quantifiable turnover that proves this is more than just a Molenesque pipe dream and it actually does and has existed outside of his head. Set a deadline of March 5th - 2009 of course ;)
Would you care to have a small side bet that by the end of next week there is still no news about financials and current/past performance? I quite confident I will win that :)
I didn't suggest it was. They do have a habit of throwing a name into the ring now and again to keep the interest going - you only have to look back at past posts and PR. What would be interesting is the address of current business activities, surely employees of the company must be have an idea of where they have to go to work each day? The names of certain "key" employees who make up the X years of experience the company would also give some credibility to all of this.
According to your source the information was going to made available next week - some weeks ago. Even Bill has said he would get back to you with details - again a week or two ago.
Just once we ask for something concrete
yes let's wait yet another few days, a week or even longer before they finally release something concrete. "Moving forward" is Vega speak for nothing to report - seen it, heard it all before. Lets see some facts, turnover - past and present - for a start instead of unsubstantiated BS from Molen and his puppets.
I trust today's news is not what we've waiting for?
nah - just another few dollars heading "south" to cover the weekend expenses - happens regularly
hmmm - just looked and saw all the names on the board - ingredients for reheating a soufflee - but gl
ty for that - will have a look. you source seems very close to the action or lack of it - hopefully he/she is right I have a real bad feeling that this is going to disappear soon. One thing for certain it cant continue of the PR BS that has kept it alive much longer.
Still no news?
i wondered what happened to beachboy lol
"all loose ends" you have to smile.
Shortly? This week, next or yet again soon?
Buy? Based on what information - still nothing forthcoming from Bill and the boys.
I appreciate that but there are a lot of investors in the UK who bought restricted shares in the original idea on the basis that this was a poker venture. Their shares are still resticted therefore they have not been able to get out and herron has been holding them off for some time. I wonder what will happen now?
You could be right but so far PR's are all they have ever put forward. Pre or post NFI - doesn't seem much change. I'm intrigued by Herron going. Not sure how that will sit with poker playing investors in UK. Recent posts suggest he was pivotal in bringing on board these and was very much holding them back from taking action.
As your post 2729 says "the next few days etc" or "two weeks at the most" - we are getting close and still no news of the actual deal - are you having doubts?
Has Herron resigned from the company, board and all day to day involvement or just as CEO?
I know you think I'm a cynic but those of us that have been with this from the early days have seen it all before. PR's with absolutely no substance and promises of more to follow in "the next few days". I would be happier if there was actually a company trading but cannot find anything anywhere to support their claims. If they have something of any substance then why the mystery? With all the BS that Vega have become famous for you would expect NFI to act differently but no.
And its having a massive impact! 500 bucks worth of trades and down 36%. Where will the PR wagon roll into next?
Ok - just didn't want to think I had missed something important
Have I missed something or is this just a copy of the PR sent out last week?
So the company is Montana based after all? I'm surprised the due diligence took so long. Most PO Boxes are acquired in a matter of minutes!
Bill says "expand profits" what profits?
Herron - almost the same words are all the previous PRs. I wonder how many weeks or months we will be waiting for "the next few days"
Sorry to be pedantic but I was under the impression that they already had a facility up and running but under another name?
As for characterizing your posts don't take it personal - you are one of a long line of people that have come on here with "great news - in the next few days, weeks, months" and as yet very little you have put forward can be backed up by anything other than hearsay. When you read back over some of your early posts and some of those more recent there is a certain continuance from the BS we used to read regularly from beachboy who seems to have vanished in recent weeks.
No doubt when this takes off you will be the one to have the last laugh and good luck to you but for the present I stick with my firm belief that this is just another ruse
So let me get this right. We have gone from "running" a factory in calgary as per your post 2707, and their shonky website, to moving the factory to SE Asia because Bill "mentioned" it. The orignal factory was not in the name of NFI so no trace can be found of it - rather convenient wouldn't you agree?
Skeptical? I think that would be an understatement. Whether this deal goes through or not (and I'm certain it will because all avenues have been exhausted with Vega so a new "opportunity" to milk is paramount to the ongoing fortunes of these people) who is going to invest in such a vague stock?
I hope for your sake that your personal exposure on this is not as desparate as your posts and hopes might suggest