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Now I understand why it's the second week of September when the markets usually take off... everyone is still on vacation this week.
All the CCs are online it appears:
http://www.alldeepblue.com/wordpress/?page_id=97
I edited my response. I did not want to indicate that I know more about the market than you. I have no idea what your level of knowledge is, and I would not indicate that I know more than anyone. That would be foolish. There are many others that know more than me about the market.
However, I do remember you stated this year that DPBM was also your first pink sheet "adventure."
Fear is a part of trading in every market. You either learn to control it, or it controls you.
Your warning is well noted, however. I do not pretend to know everything. Rather, I still have much, much to learn.
Let me clarify, also, I was not indicating that all my stocks are doing well. Rather, I was noting that I do not live in a negative world.
Unfortunately, the only things I can dig up on this company are negative. Maybe the research is biased. Regardless, what I and others have found paints a nasty picture.
Unfortunately, the only thing positive, the DR, I just have to take Wilf's word on everything. That bothers me. I have a hard time trusting any pink sheet CEO.
The sky is not falling on the rest of my stocks.
Hmmm...
Interesting fact from the 30Fold site:
"Over 13 BILLION DOLLARS are spent every year on Christian products in America and 85% of those dollars are spent in the secular market place at corporate places, secular bookstore chains, and secular stores of all sorts."
It seems 30Fold primarily sells Amway type Christian Bookstores (and, of course, the associated products).
30Fold website (staff page with John Godzich):
http://www.30fold.net/Staff.htm
Note the remark below about his 250 million dollar business.
John's staff info:
John Godzich
CEO
Ask John Godzich how he accomplished the “impossible” repeatedly in his life. With plain sincerity, and a humble shrug of the shoulders, he will say, “No one ever told me it was impossible.”
African villages developed their own economy. Aspiring pioneers went on trips around the world. Deprived children celebrated toy-filled living rooms on Christmas morning. Poland’s communist regime was replaced with democracy. All of these events occurred because John Godzich believed, and still believes, that all things are possible with God.
John’s faith in God and contagious optimism have deep roots. His parents were concentration camp survivors in World War II. After the war, they immigrated to France where they were refugees with no citizenship and a life filled with hardships. Then they immigrated to America, where they believed their children would have bountiful opportunities to thrive. Indeed, they managed to send all five children to college, proving through their efforts, faith, and through the eternal optimism of a visionary father, that the American dream was alive and well. John was raised in the faith. He was told he could realize anything he imagined. The fruits of this background are evident in his life.
John speaks multiple languages. He has traveled the world, and he has touched lives every time he has stepped onto a new piece of land. John Godzich’s achievements are many, including building a 250 million dollar a year business. However he is likely to omit such successes in casual conversation. He would rather sit down to a good meal, look you in the eye, and tell you about pastors in the Philippines who grew their church attendance by 50% after a conference he conducted. Then he will nudge you and say “You see. All things are possible with God.” To John, being an instrument in the success of others is his lifeblood.
When you first meet John Godzich his warm smile will communicate that he believes you can do anything. As you give John Godzich a goodbye handshake you will suddenly realize that you also believe you can do anything.
John Godzich once shared an evening with his hero, President Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan told John of a cherished quote he displayed in the oval office. It read “You can accomplish anything you want in life, as long as you don’t care who gets the credit for it.” That evening confirmed to John Godzich that there was no limit to man’s accomplishments.
John Godzich has a vision for every person on the 30fold team. His vision is that every man and woman will realize that their potential has no limits, and that their possibilities are endless. He especially likes to remind you that you can reach any level of success, as long as you seek to help others succeed first, and as long as you “trust God with all your heart, not leaning to your own understanding”, as long as you “acknowledge Him in all that you do, He will make your paths straight.”
Some more info. on the John Godzich (old):
9/2/1992
http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/bushbeat/archive/2005/02/doug_wead_and_t.php
So, who is John Godzich? Seven hundred French people who were learning to say "yee-hah" at a Rustler's Rooste steak fry on August 15 on South Mountain certainly know him.
They're part of the 24,000 active distributors in Groupement Europeen de Professionnels du Marketing, John Godzich's multilevel marketing network. The past fiscal year, says Godzich, the company did $130 million of business.
John Godzich was born into a Polish family displaced by World War II. He grew up in a French mining area, the second of five boys in a family that always dreamed of moving to America and finally did in 1962. They lived in Brooklyn and Manhattan, and John went to school at New York University. After dabbling in leftist politics, he says, he wound up working as a translator for the State Department. He eventually got into Amway and returned to France to build a marketing network of his own.
Now he shuttles between France and Arizona, where he has an 8,000-square-foot home on Easy Street, east of Apache Junction. It's got a built-in chapel.
He looks like a stevedore and comes across as a personable, erudite salesman. John Godzich also appears to be an intellectual—though not a pointy-headed liberal one.
John Godzich's network is helping him live the good life. Religion. Politics. Business. That's life, says John Godzich. It's harmful not to mix them. "When there's an exchange," he says, "people become more tolerant."
New ventures, new places excite him, he says, which is one reason he likes Arizona. He recalls driving around the state back in '79 in a Ford with no air conditioning, staying in small motels. "It seemed like everything was possible out here," he says.
* * *
Yes, please do.
Dude, seriously. USE LESS WORDS.
Sorry... I'm just sick of reading long posts about the same stuff, and every time you write a book.
:) Thanks again for your DD. It is very helpful.
This is the first pink sheet in which I've ever invested. In fact, it was probably my 6th or 7th stock to ever drop money into. That was 7 months ago. I've learned a LOT since then. :)
I still do not claim to know everything. I have much to learn still, and any help is definitely appreciated.
James Ditanna was/is president of Sino-Biotics.
SINO-BIOTICS INC.
Form:10KSB/A Filing Date:1/17/2007
http://sec.edgar-online.com/2007/01/17/0001225279-07-000016/Section27.asp
On 8/22/07, he had the Principal Address changed on AINI to a mail box (PMB) in his name. He is using John Heskett, which is apparently the same lawyer used for the Sino-Biotics 10K.
Don't know if any of this is relevant... but I thought I would throw it out.
Interesting...
From the below website:
SINB Details
Sino-Biotics, Inc. does not have significant operations. It intends to acquire or merge with an operating company. The company was founded in 1997 and is based in Bartlesville, Oklahoma.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/snapshot/snapshot.asp?symbol=SINB.OB
Maybe SINB is acquiring AINI?? Wonder why? Doesn't seem right to me...
From http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_6ylbjb :
Line of Business:Management Investment
From the SINB board iBOX:
Sino plans to seek, evaluate and possibly enter into an acquisition or merger with candidates with operating businesses and complete an acquisition or merger with one of these candidates. Sino currently has no operations and intends to locate and combine with an existing, privately-held company that is profitable or which, in management's view, has growth potential, irrespective of the industry in which it is engaged. However, Sino does not intend to combine with a private company which may be deemed to be an investment company subject to the Investment Company Act of 1940. A combination may be structured as a merger, consolidation, exchange of the Sino's common stock for stock or assets or any other form which will result in the combined enterprise's becoming a publicly-held corporation.
James Ditanna was/is president of Sino-Biotics.
SINO-BIOTICS INC.
Form:10KSB/A Filing Date:1/17/2007
http://sec.edgar-online.com/2007/01/17/0001225279-07-000016/Section27.asp
Could be that he is just using John Heskett for two of his ventures at separate times? (John Heskett is also involved with Sino-Biotics according to your post.)
6/27/07 Sino-Biotics Inc 10QSB/A 12/31/06 3:13 Heskett John
6/27/07 Sino-Biotics Inc 8-K{4} 6/26/07 1:2 Heskett John
Looks like currently it is just a post office mail box (PMB) at this UPS Store:
The Ups Store
414 SE Washington Blvd
Bartlesville, OK 74006-2428
(918) 333-2090
Most of us found this a while back and found comfort in realizing Wilf seemed to stand up for the little guy.
There is also another e-mail to the SEC where he complains about MMs shorting stock. However, I can't help wondering if the saying, "If you can't beat `em, join `em," applies there?
I've been trying to figure out the Alexander Lindale link for months. I didn't purposely figure everything out suddenly this weekend. If I would have had it my way, I would have learned about it before I dropped (and consequently lost) several thousands of dollars in this company.
I agree. Then again, if he really meant to do capted harm, I don't think he would warn him before unleashing.
It would come out of left field when least expected.
Wilf just doesn't seem to be the type to me. `Course, I may be underestimating him again.
Leaving voicemails like that is plain stupid. If anything did happen to capted, he would be the first suspect.
Is Wilf a secret master ninja? He has tracking abilities and knows kung fu? LOL
Hehehe... I can just see Wilf:
"TIGER STANCE!! HEEEE YAAAH!"
I don't think the forum ever went down. It was the blog. However, you are right. It is back up going back to the post with Randy suggesting the forums. Everything before that is gone, but I think it was already gone before it went down briefly last night.
In reference to:
"I wish someone here would sum up WHY all these attacks are on going ATM. Anyone?"
Some might say it is just bad karma.
Here's the number for the CCs. Good idea to record them. I sure wish I had kept a copy of the old blogs. I can't figure out why the Web Archive doesn't have them.
1-712-432-3903
2152034#
0#
Yes. That's the 3rd time now that it's been deleted. Wonder what they needed to dispose of this time.
I plan to call the TA for updated O/S on Tuesday. I'll post when I do. I'm curious if any shares have been sold since the 17.
At the very bottom:
Registered Agent STEPHEN G BENNETT ESQ 2964 W 4700 S STE 222 Salt Lake City UT 84118
That's the attorney, right?
See post 2994.
Can this get any weirder? WOW.
Nice post! This proves that Ed is telling the truth about the Deep Scan.
Wow. 2,600+ reads today.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/most_read.asp
Personally, I would veer away from calling Wilf a "zero." He is clearly a very shrewd individual.
Table of Contents for Men's Journal, September issue: http://www.mensjournal.com/toc/index.html
Unfortunately, it does not appear to be there unless I'm missing it (which is always possible).
Here's one: http://www.badgerstateethanol.com/index.asp
Here's a list, it appears: http://homepage.mac.com/oscura/ctd/wisplants.html
My hunch is that someone out there will act this time.
At least, if he does move to another stock, he better consider changing his name.
Unfortunately, I have no idea what Wilf might be capable of doing. It seems far-fetched. On the other hand, it also seems many of us have underestimated Wilf.
Stocks fascinate me. :)
I'm glad to hear you have a passion. That is one of the most important possessions in life. Music is a fine one, at that.
MMM, I will not buy any more of this stock. That is final. I don't care if it suddenly hits $50 next week. I'll eat my words.
It is okay to be wrong. At least, I'm fine with it. Profit not gained hurts less than losses not sustained.
In pinks, apparently it is wise to expect to be wrong more often than not.
Wilf has millions of dollars. If I'm convinced he is questionable enough for me to run to the SEC, it would not be far-fetched to fathom he might be capable of more than stock market games.
I will not go to the SEC. I'll leave that up to some of the others that have lost $50,000+. If I had lost that much, I assure you, I would go to the SEC in a heartbeat. If the investigation came out clean, at least, I would feel better that my money had been legitimately spent.
Your sense of humor is slightly amusing. At least, I smirked.
Logic is in my posts. If you are unable to see it, so be it.
I assure you. I am not shorting this stock. I haven't even learned how yet. Although, I will admit, I am VERY interested to learn. Apparently, as we've seen this year, it can be very profitable. :)
Wilf will probably tell you the following when he is asked about discounted shares sold to Alexander Lindale:
It's done all the time. Private companies invest at a discount all the time in public companies.
The above is true. PIPE is commonly used legitimately apparently more often than not. This possibility is definitely in Wilf's favor, let me make that clear.
However, here is where I get concerned (and mad). First, the private company is Wilf's. Even if you can get past that, let me pose this question: Why did Alexander Lindale do so well this year?
They had 3 sponsored symbols on the Alexander Lyndale website before it went down: SYGG, HDIA, and DPBM. NONE of them went up this year. SYGG TUMBLED. DPBM SUNK. HDIA TANKED. Clearly, he did not make money investing in these stocks.
If you don't believe me, reference my earlier post with the stock charts of SYGG and HDIA: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=22544128
You, of course, already know the story on DPBM.
Derbenski, apparently Alexander Lindale is in the same office as DPBM back in Utah.
Here's what I want to know: how much information does the SEC need before they feel enough is going on here to warrant a ruthless investigation?
I refuse to get involved in something of that nature. I don't need the mess on my hands, and I haven't lost enough money to be that enraged. However, aren't they actively watching these boards?
What does it take, I wonder?
Time will tell, MMM. Time will tell.
Like I said before, doesn't matter what information surfaces; those that are hopelessly down are reluctant to believe anything except news which is in their favor. Believing anything negative could very well be the end of families, marriages, or early retirement according to some of the posts I've seen on DPBM's forums. I understand this position. It is a difficult one to be in.
I hope the ball rolls in your favor. I say "your" because I'm selling my current, small holding ASAP. This probably means shortly after the PR is posted on Tuesday. I will not repurchase this time, no matter whether this falls or sky-rockets. So, you don't have to worry about me trying to short the stock. :)
GLTY. I do hope that this triangle of "?s" (Alexander Lindale, DPBM, and Stock Information Systems) turns out to be entirely justified. This would, in the least, ensure a better perspective on my ever-changing outlook of the world.
Lastly, I don't really know what is illegal and what isn't regarding this triangle. I'm just saying that it is shady to "fund" your public company with discounted shares sold to your private company. This just seems really out-of-wack to me. BUT, that's just me.
www.stockinformationsystems.com is down now too. What the heck is up with all of Wilf's private companies disappearing from the web?? First, Alexander Lindale (myotcbb.com) disappears, and now this one too?
Whois info (both registered by Alexander Lindale):
Registrant:
Alexander Lindale L.L.C. (AB579-AWR)
12665 S Minuteman Drive
Draper, UT 84020
US
Ph: +801.2014691 FAX:
Domain Name: myotcbb.com
Registrant:
Alexander Lindale
ATTN: STOCKINFORMATIONSYSTEMS.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA. 20172-0447
Domain Name: STOCKINFORMATIONSYSTEMS.COM