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and how would this play out because i thought about this long ago.
"Anything said to you in private would be denied, and you could never prove you were misled."
If a scam, would george and company not know that anyone he/they are talking to by phone could be recording the call. thats easy done.
"If CLYW is legitimate, then Management would never share anything with anyone on a phone call that has not been released to the public - they couldn't and they wouldn't"
But can give additional info about P.R's and answer questions reguarding P.R's and unclear public info.
however, ANNOUNCEING something THAT SOMEONE FROM CLYW has told them before the company has released to public,, to tell a board , as often happens here, i agree.. I DONT THINK SO.
I agree Droy24, I will not use this board to post any ammunition for the nay sayers here. after reading Sadee's post she is right. to many b/s highs and lows here over nothing but crap. tired of the same ppl trying to do me a favor and calling me a fool.... the info i got from george also put my faith back in this company. or i should say restored my confindence. this last time i didnt beat around the bush and got snap back answers to the questions.
took days to catch him in but does george really have time to sit around and take calls from me. I hope not. as for todays pps...to many ppl beating us down .....I could care less what the pps is right now.. us longs will get the last laugh..
Droy 24 I would like to be included in any info you have as well as share a bit with you.
tenac@epix.net
I got a 2nd e-mail from the Bruno guy from Sleipner SA, Monday. even though it dont really say anything to the point im encouraged he replyed a 2nd time.
Da: rick XXXX [mailto:tenac@xxxx.net]
Inviato: venerdì 15 luglio 2005 16.24
A: Bruno Motta Sleipner SA
Oggetto: Re: Sleipner: Calypso phones
Mr Motta,
Thanks for your reply to my e-mail. Can you verify that Sleipner SA received phones from Calypso. This being Friday of the 2nd week of July. And if phones were received does that not mean that field trials will begin.
Thank You
Rick J XXXX
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Dear Mr. XXXX,
Every information connected to company, product evaluation and characteristics that exceedes the ones you can find on websites and/or printings are covered by an NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) that both parts have signed together with the Field Trial Agreement signature.
For this reason I can't disclose any information on that topics.
Best Regards
Bruno Motta
Sleipner SA
Via Albricci 9
20121 Milano
T +39 02867964
F +39 0286465166
well even though it says in reply to none i am the one talking qcom today, so i guess if you can trash my investment heres to you. Now people play the stock market a lot of different ways and i dont agree with all those ways but i dont count. there are different reasons to bash stocks/companys and if someone will do it for one reason will they not do it for another reason.
Posted by: jetsmets
In reply to: None Date:7/13/2005 9:37:24 AM
Post #of 330252
shorted CAFE at 8.77
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Posted by: jetsmets
In reply to: None Date:7/13/2005 10:47:40 AM
Post #of 330253
CAFE how sweet it is drop baby drop
Michael Allard, I read the QCOM success story as nothing more than an example of the masses not beleaving in something but to those who did beleave..reward....not all the this and thats you added.
as far as a Qcom board, i simply ment "the same" as far as discussion, name calling, i know more than you attitudes, 1/2 pro and 1/2 con....after all this was a technolgy that most thought wouldnt work as it says, so i know people were in heated debate over it for that 6 year period. im not trying to parallel in compairson anything to anything.
I think the pro and con discussion is the best thing in the world for any board...its all the freaking name calling and better than thou attitudes that drive me crazy.
i bet if there was a qcom board from 1989 to 1995 it sounded just like this one
...........this was posted some time ago by droy24 on this board and i kept it to drag out once in awhile. this might be a good time to read again.
A little story from qcom
Success story
Nearly 20 years ago, Irwin Jacobs faced long odds in getting the broader market to accept his digital CDMA technology.
At the time, wireless carriers in the U.S. and Europe relied on older, analog-based standards, but those networks had limited capacity and a digital upgrade was seen as vital to the industry's growth prospects.
In 1989, the global wireless industry coalesced around a digital standard called TDMA -- or time division multiple access - designed to dramatically increase the number of calls a network could handle.
Just a few months later, Qualcomm publicly unveiled its still-unfinished technology to a hoard of industry skeptics who doubted it would succeed. Jacobs argued that his technology was far superior to TDMA.
"Most people said no way this [CDMA] is going to work," noted Albert Lin, a wireless analyst at American Technology Research.
Yet Jacobs persisted, arguing that CDMA is a cheaper, more efficient method of sending wireless calls and that it would free up space on the networks of wireless operators. The company started to license the technology in 1995 and now has 125 global partners.
Verizon Communications and Sprint Corp., among others, adopted the technology and are using it to deliver high-speed Internet access as well as regular phone calls. Compared to rival standards, CDMA-based technology allows networks to carry more data and send it at faster speeds.
droy24 dont want to miss anything that has to do with Clyw.
if you would ...tenac@epix.net.....Thanks
something that popped in my head as i was doing dd on another stock last night and this post brings it back to mind. Now as i understand it this ASNAP technology is Robert Leons baby. im sure it is safe to say that many years of his time have been put into its R & D. Now I have to believe that if a person spends years developing something and knows that it works and is a gold mine he or she is not gonna get involved in anything other than a legit business. now if by some weird cosmic stroke of bad luck they do get involved with a bunch of crooks, dont you think that at first light, with the hopes of being a rich person with the respect of the wireless world , they are going to blow the whistle. I dont think they {Start Selling Shares and Resigning..how gulity does that make you look}..I think Leon, even though he would lose all his shares/money, because company management would be off to jail and company folded..but Leon with patent in hand would be off to whoever was interested, and that would be plenty.we would be screwed and Leon would be broke but able to move on...now i know that it was said that Calypso now owns the patent but if company folded would it not go back to Leon. so as far as "trying to make sure Robert Leon does not talk about what he knows about the company.." I think Leon would be singing like a bird to save his own but......just another reason in my mind that i think this company is on the up & up and we are just gonna have to wait it out...Notice i didnt say the "P" word. I know im hung up on this but i cant just let all this fraud/scam talk go unanswered
I ask these questions before but heard nothing so ill ask again. Plaintiff2000 posted that insiders hold 70,000,000 shares.
and there is a 50,000,000 float.
{1st}- isnt there gonna have to be one hell of a pump for insiders to dump 70,000,000 shares if this is in fact a scam.
Will I not be selling right along with them.
{2nd}-on average lets say 150,000 shares of the 50,000,000 float traded everyday and the price staying in the $1.00 ballpark..how many thousands of investors own these shares that must not think this is a scam.
Im I missing something and if so let me know. If the insiders cant sell their shares whats the use of all this to them. Leon himself still has 1.7 million.
now here is whats on my mind this morning. Im sitting here thinking that this week it seems that more and more ppl are starting to lean to the fraud/scam side of the fence. I 1st came to this board back in feburary, as i started my dd on this company after hearing about it on the marketwatch adelq board. i picked up so much info in such a short period of time and was amazed at the knowledge of this technolgy of wireless, that was posting here. seemed like alot of level headed posters/investors. so i started buying clyw, but not on just what i read here . now ill be the 1st to admit that i have my moments of aggervation, but i think it is more impatience. anyway what has changed in the past 4+ months sence i came here. im not going to list the things because we all know them. its all been positive news except the LEON deal but we dont know that that is bad news eather. i think that one thing that puts a strain on us is all the let down we get when "someone" keeps pumping us up with crap and it dosnt happen. why are we ,and im guilty to, listening to this just to let it bring us down..how could anyone know..As much as we like to hope they do know something how could they REALLY. you cant make me beleave that george calls ______ up and says here is whats happening tell the boards. I wont things to happen yesterday but i know thats not how things work in the real world.. remember george said in a e-mail to me back in april;;;
Rick,
Premature PR’s can do more damage than good. Motorola announced their phones would be ready by last Christmas---still no phone. HP rushed to market with a phone they had to recall. We are poised for some announcements that will satisfy all concerns soon. There are issues in the industry that still require solutions. We feel Calypso is on the cutting edge of this technology and are advancing strategically. The field trials will begin when we are 100% confident that they will be successful. We are working on the language for the K and hope to have it filed this week.
Sincerely,
George J Schilling
President & CEO
Calypso Wireless, Inc.
www.georgeschilling@calypsowireless.com
the field trials are signed NOW SENCE THIS E-MAIL...for all we know they are happening..now im not trying to pump this stock. all i care about is what i gain or lose and that i do it honestly...thats the way it is.
i personally see that nothing that negative has happened at this time for me to bail..
i do admit that george and company could do a better job letting us know about things such as LEON but that dont red flag me as of now....grips me alot though...
AND IF THIS DOES TURN OUT TO BE A SCAM...THIS IS THE GOOD OLE USA AND IF THE FEDS CAN CUFF YOU THEY WILL..WHAT A BLESSING THE CONVICTION OF BERNARD EBBERS IS.
I just dont understand that with all the intense DD that this board has done that anyone is calling it quits...but thats just an opinion and I know there are different reasons for everything in life....
I go back in time often and read YOU LONGTIMERS POSTS and that re-enforces my belief in this company...ROCK ON CALYPSO
The e-mail I got from the Bruno Motta guy of Sleipner SA was a form type as a couple others said they got. But is not the important thing about the e-mail is that I sent mine via Sleipners website and they got back to me saying receiving phones this week. would that not mean field trials to start. So much talk of scam and if p.r's are true this should put our minds to ease to some degree. IF Sleipner hadnt already seen something I dont think they would have responded in any way,
Dear Sirs,
Sleipner has signed a Field Trial Agreement with Calypso wireless on June 1, 2005.
Sleipner intends to test the dual-mode phone that Calypso has designed by porting on it a dual-mode client software that enables handling of both WiFi and GSM phone calls with just one interface. (http://www.sleipner-sa.com/sleipner/images/stories/sleipner/comob.swf)
WE are expecting to receive the phones by the second week of July. At that moment we will start porting the software.
Sleipner has not placed any order for Calypso Phones
Do not hesitate to contact me for any further information
Best Regards
Bruno Motta
so I see another Form 4 has shown up for
ROBERT LEON to sell another 20000 shares.
so why am I not paying any attention to these anymore
It says he still owns 1,747,896 shares soooooooooooooo
if he sell 20,000 a week that is 87.3948 weeks
or 1.6 years to get rid of his shares.
In 1.6 years we {CLYW} will have probably split
2 times... so whats the big deal.
if anyone or all of you would like to take a minute and explain something to me i would appreciate it. now on this post of plaintif2000 it says;
BUT FIRST MY QUESTION, IF "INSIDERS" STILL OWN 70 MILLION SHARES, EVEN IF THIS IS A SCAM, IS THERE NOT GOING TO BE A HELL OF A PUMP COMING FOR THEM TO GET RID OF 70 MILLION SHARES??????? SO WHATS THE PROBLEM .... I dont believe its a scam but just what if......If im missing something let me know. I check nasdaq.com and other sources EVERYDAY to see who's selling, I would like to think I and others would see when this is happening and could bail right along with them. Im 21000 @ $1.00 so we've been in that ballpark with nothing going on so to speak. STIY COMES TO MIND THAT WENT FROM 2.00 TO 45.00 IN A WEEK and has been trading back in the 3-4 dollar range sence because they still havent put a stun gun on the market.....anyway i said it once but good post plaintif2000
Selling, a preliminary study...
11,308,786=total possible insider selling, not all but most
has taken place.
now from yahoo
Shares Outstanding: 119.14M
Float: 49.68M
W/ 200M shares authorized.
so about 70,000,000 of the outstanding shares are still held
by insiders, either from secondary offerings, the reverse
shell transaction or ppl that held restricted shares of
kleer vu, prior to the offering or ppl from microtel,
so carying over from Kleer Vu, there must have been
49,68M - 11,308,786 ~ 38 Million shares caried over as being
outstanding prior to the shell merger, then finally we can
see that there were about 70M + 11M = 81M restricted to start
w/ out of that leon got about 2.3 percent, so out of the
restricted shares we have sold only 12.5 percent during the
development stage, if "everybody" was selling you would expect
this number to be much larger, clearly a number of "insiders"
see the potential,
in the past year only 2.5M shares were issued as a secondary
they are running a tight ship, and ppl should not be as
alarmed, leon's kids are probably getting ready or are in
college, etc. at a rate of 5000 shares / week he will burn
only 250,000 of his remaining shares over the course of the
next year, which leaves him at least 750,000 shares a year
from now, by then the pps will be over 20, so he will have
about 15M dollars, if the next 250,000 shares are sold over
the next year, then the pps will end in say 100/share
(summer 2007) then w/ 500,000 shares he will have 50,000,000
dollars in equity, and in 2008, 250,000 shares left at
1000/ share, thats 250 M dollars, i think leon in the long
run leon is fine, but now, when the pps is artificially low
like this its got 2 bite
p2k
TICKET2RIDE I make it a point to never get involved in all the mud slinging between posters that can take place on these boards sometimes. My opinion the board for me is to discuss a stock both pro and con...HOWEVER...if the movie you speak of "Apocalypse Now" is the movie about the Vietnam war...Let me say this...reguardless of how something is portrayed the bottom line it was about USA Soldiers dying. AS a Vietnam vet I take offence..
This Is A Comedy .
Just Like The Movie :
" Apocalypse Now "
what are you thinking!
so why do you suppose i was told demo in U.K done and p.r. to follow.....hey folks im still holding 21000 shares but im getting a little strung out on this #%***&**&*^!!!!#$%$#@
wiredog here is my post from the other day in case you missed it about my call to alice on 06/30/05 she said demos .....well read for yourself
Posted by: tenac
In reply to: tenac who wrote msg# 13365 Date:7/11/2005 7:52:57 PM
Post #of 13998
I called Alice at Calypso's office on Thursday June 30th. she told me the U.K demo had taken place that week which would have been Mon. 27th and Tues. 28th which is when we were expecting from rumor of the board. She said George would be back in the Miami office from London on Friday July 1st, the next day and a P.R. would follow. here is that post;
Posted by: tenac
In reply to: None Date:6/30/2005 3:44:05 PM
Post #of 13917
Well everyone i made my call to Ms. Allcia Arguello and just got off the phone with her. She said Robert had indeed turned in his resignation but he and George would continue talks when George gets back in Miami tomorrow {Friday}. She said she was not at liberty to discuss details other than being of personal nature and she felt he would continue to be a part of Calypso in some way. She said the demo's took place this week and a P.r. would be out following Georges arrival back in the states from London. She didnt want to comment on weather any field trials have begun but said things were looking good for the company. I also ask if any United States company's were lined up for field trials and all she would say was that many things were in the works in many areas of the world. Now when I made this call I only expected limited information because even though im a shareholder for all she would know im a reporter looking for a story. I was looking more for tone of voice and how she carried herself in reguard's to questions. She answered the phone herself and when i said i was surprised to get right through to her she said her receptionest was out of the office so she answerd herself. She seemed very straght forward and honest and happy and in no hurry to get away from me, and we talked alittle while. I expressed my concerns about some things including the amount of money I have tied up in CLYW and she seemed to listen and respond in a understandable way. Just trying to make conversation and get a read on things. Anyway for what its worth i feel better about things and if anyone still is freaken out give her a call. 1-305-828-1483.
As i said in the post i felt good after our talk she seemed on the up and up. Now here is is 12 days later ive seen nothing about U.K. demos. that makes me want to think eather they didnt take place or were a failure. [forget everything else im talking about the franc telecom U.K. demo ]She also made lite of the Leon resignation that he would still be involved with the company in some way. Here it is 20 days sence it showed up on the form 4 and still no formal news/P.R. to explain anything....so for it to be said by anyone call Alice and be at ease, forget it.
here is the e-mail I sent to MR Bruno Motta of Sleipner SA yesterday afternoon and his responce to me this morning.
Dear Sirs,
Sleipner has signed a Field Trial Agreement with Calypso wireless on June 1, 2005.
Sleipner intends to test the dual-mode phone that Calypso has designed by porting on it a dual-mode client software that enables handling of both WiFi and GSM phone calls with just one interface. (http://www.sleipner-sa.com/sleipner/images/stories/sleipner/comob.swf)
WE are expecting to receive the phones by the second week of July. At that moment we will start porting the software.
Sleipner has not placed any order for Calypso Phones
Do not hesitate to contact me for any further information
Best Regards
Bruno Motta
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: RICK J. XXXX [mailto:tenac@xxxx.net]
Inviato: lunedì 11 luglio 2005 21.10
A: info@sleipner-sa.com
Oggetto: Sleipner: Calypso phones
This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.sleipner-sa.com/sleipner from:
RICK J. XXXX <tenac@xxxx.net>
Attn; Mr. Bruno Motta,
The word I get is field trials have taken place between Sleipner and
Calypso Wireless and a deal signed with phones being delivered the 2nd week
of July, being this week. Can you confirm this and have orders been placed
for phones/asnap. I am a Calypso shareholder and I say Thank You for any
information you can share with me.
Rick J XXXX
Meshoppen, Pa. 18630
USA
tenac@xxxx.net
just doing some quick checks and came up with some things. Michael did you google Sleipner or Sleipner SA, here is one of a few sites i came across
http://www.sipforum.org/component/option,com_fullview/task,fullview_data/Itemid,195/
as you see sleipner is down the page a ways.....and i clicked on the cisco site then took links to ecqudor then typed in servinova and got this link
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/search/search.pl?searchPhrase=servinova&nv=Search+All+cisco.com%23...
Ecutel as well http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.ecutel.net/&prev=/search%...
i googled america movil and found non p.r. related links so i dont really know what your saying as far as no web resource to show a la-git company. maybe im just not understanding, been a long day
you folks that play these pinksheets all the time i dont know weather to admire you are give you the number to my shrink. this is my first and last. but if we hit it big like some of you say ill _____ __ _ ____ __ _ _____ __ ________ __ !!!!!
I called Alice at Calypso's office on Thursday June 30th. she told me the U.K demo had taken place that week which would have been Mon. 27th and Tues. 28th which is when we were expecting from rumor of the board. She said George would be back in the Miami office from London on Friday July 1st, the next day and a P.R. would follow. here is that post;
Posted by: tenac
In reply to: None Date:6/30/2005 3:44:05 PM
Post #of 13917
Well everyone i made my call to Ms. Allcia Arguello and just got off the phone with her. She said Robert had indeed turned in his resignation but he and George would continue talks when George gets back in Miami tomorrow {Friday}. She said she was not at liberty to discuss details other than being of personal nature and she felt he would continue to be a part of Calypso in some way. She said the demo's took place this week and a P.r. would be out following Georges arrival back in the states from London. She didnt want to comment on weather any field trials have begun but said things were looking good for the company. I also ask if any United States company's were lined up for field trials and all she would say was that many things were in the works in many areas of the world. Now when I made this call I only expected limited information because even though im a shareholder for all she would know im a reporter looking for a story. I was looking more for tone of voice and how she carried herself in reguard's to questions. She answered the phone herself and when i said i was surprised to get right through to her she said her receptionest was out of the office so she answerd herself. She seemed very straght forward and honest and happy and in no hurry to get away from me, and we talked alittle while. I expressed my concerns about some things including the amount of money I have tied up in CLYW and she seemed to listen and respond in a understandable way. Just trying to make conversation and get a read on things. Anyway for what its worth i feel better about things and if anyone still is freaken out give her a call. 1-305-828-1483.
As i said in the post i felt good after our talk she seemed on the up and up. Now here is is 12 days later ive seen nothing about U.K. demos. that makes me want to think eather they didnt take place or were a failure. [forget everything else im talking about the franc telecom U.K. demo ]She also made lite of the Leon resignation that he would still be involved with the company in some way. Here it is 20 days sence it showed up on the form 4 and still no formal news/P.R. to explain anything....so for it to be said by anyone call Alice and be at ease, forget it.
I called Alice at Calypso's office on Thursday June 30th. she told me the demo in U.K. had taken place that week which would have been Mon. 27th and Tues. 28th which is when we were expecting from rumor of the board. She said George would be back in the Miami office from London on Friday July 1st, the next day and a P.R. would follow. here is that post;
Posted by: tenac
In reply to: None Date:6/30/2005 3:44:05 PM
Post #of 13917
Well everyone i made my call to Ms. Allcia Arguello and just got off the phone with her. She said Robert had indeed turned in his resignation but he and George would continue talks when George gets back in Miami tomorrow {Friday}. She said she was not at liberty to discuss details other than being of personal nature and she felt he would continue to be a part of Calypso in some way. She said the demo's took place this week and a P.r. would be out following Georges arrival back in the states from London. She didnt want to comment on weather any field trials have begun but said things were looking good for the company. I also ask if any United States company's were lined up for field trials and all she would say was that many things were in the works in many areas of the world. Now when I made this call I only expected limited information because even though im a shareholder for all she would know im a reporter looking for a story. I was looking more for tone of voice and how she carried herself in reguard's to questions. She answered the phone herself and when i said i was surprised to get right through to her she said her receptionest was out of the office so she answerd herself. She seemed very straght forward and honest and happy and in no hurry to get away from me, and we talked alittle while. I expressed my concerns about some things including the amount of money I have tied up in CLYW and she seemed to listen and respond in a understandable way. Just trying to make conversation and get a read on things. Anyway for what its worth i feel better about things and if anyone still is freaken out give her a call. 1-305-828-1483.
As i said in the post i felt good after our talk she seemed on the up and up. Now here is is 12 days later ive seen nothing about U.K. demos. that makes me want to think eather they didnt take place or were a failure. [forget everything else im talking about the franc telecom U.K. demo ]She also made lite of the Leon resignation that he would still be involved with the company in some way. Here it is 20 days sence it showed up on the form 4 and still no formal news/P.R. to explain anything....so for it to be said by anyone call Alice and be at ease, forget it.
well i went to the sleipner website and found only a generic type way of e-mail to the company. no link to personally e-mail someone. anyway just made to the attn: of Mr Bruno Motta so maybe he will get it. ASNAP is there a link to personally e-mail the man..did i just miss it and if so where is it located...I want to know.
if you go to the bottom of the last page on the last line is this not all that matters. if these companys havent seen something already that has lead them to believe that this is something they want -1st- would they be waisting their time and -2nd -would they allow Calypso to publish a quote from them in a P.R....
Calypso Wireless Announces Exclusive Distribution Agreement for its Dual Mode Wifi-GSM GPRS Phones in the U.K.
05/18/2005 5:45AM - Business Wire
Calypso Wireless Signs Field Trial Agreement with Sleipner in Italy for its Dual Mode Wi-Fi-GSM-GPRS Cellular Phones
06/01/2005 5:45AM - Business Wire
America Movil' Conecel Signs Field Trial Agreement with Calypso Wireless for its Real Time 2-Way Video Conferencing Broadband GSM/Wi-Fi Cellular Phones
06/07/2005 6:30AM - PrimeZone Media Network
Calypso Wireless Signs Field Trial Agreement with Ecutel for its Dual Mode WiFi-GSM-GPRS VoIP Cellular Phones
06/15/2005 6:00AM - PrimeZone Media Network
Calypso Wireless Completes Demonstration on its Dual Mode WiFi/GSM-GPRS VoIP Cellular Phone
07/05/2005 8:28AM - Business Wire
CORRECTING and REPLACING Servinova Cisco Systems Registered Partner Signs Field Trial Agreement with Calypso Wireless for its Dual Mode WiFi-GSM-GPRS VoIP Cellular Phones
07/06/2005 11:37AM - Business Wire
AS I see it, each time a similar statement to the one below, has been included in the P.R. from the above companys telling me something much bigger than just Calypso is happening here.......................
................"Using our existing Wireless Local Loop (WLL) with Cisco Systems networking equipment incorporating the Calypso ASNAP(tm) patented technology, Ecutel is looking forward to offering the Calypso C1250i dual mode GSM-WiFi cellular phone to our customer. Our company will offer to different mobile carriers the ability to interconnect with our WLL in order to offer new functionalities and services, such as broadband connectivity and real time two-way video conferencing on the Calypso mobile phone. We look forward to installing the Field Trial equipment in order to follow up with a definitive supply agreement for the Calypso C1250i cell phone and network software," says Mr. J. Vedova General Manager of Ecutel.....
52 days have passed sence the U.K. news came out May 18th. As much as we like to think we know what is or might be going on we dont know anything. maybe field trials are complete with some, and underway with others. they told us they were going to happen...not just CLYW but the other companys as well, so as much as we would like to know every little move can we expect that. anyday now we could/will be looking at news for orders from all.........however i still hold my ground on letting us know about the other non ASNAP/PHONE related news...NOW/AS IT HAPPENS......
my thoughts as well sadee. the p.r. dept needs to get on the ball and keep us informed. im not looking for false p.r's but things like this leon and stump thing , let me know and now. with the dd ive done and all i have learned on this board i really believe Calypso is gonna make it. it bothers me knowing the money ive had tied up here could have made money somewhere else but i also know if your not on board when this thing takes off your gonna miss it. some would say you can always get in but a good example is the other day when CTTY went from 4.00 to 22.00 in one day. now if your watching this day in and day out o.k. fine, but my work dont allow me to do that.some days i can check during the day but some days i dont get to look at any market resource till market is closed. so if im not in and it jumps 18 bucks like CTTY did im screwed. i think what im gonna make here will far out weigh what my money would have made else where so its worth the wait. i to have a little better than 20000 shares and when we get listed on a exchange, get a couple splits behind us and then a pps in the double digets im gonna be sitting pretty good in my book of numbers. dream on some say but like ive said before many a company and investors have started right where we are now and look at the success they have been rewarded with for their dream and stick to it attitude.
just caught up with this post plaintif2000 and as always with your DD good job. I'll admit although I look into a company pretty well before I invest in it I can get a little lazy there after. I guess maybe thats because I usually invest in well known companys but do take some chances at times. a few examples being FLML TIVO SIRI BIOM IMNR but as have said this is my 1st pink so although i do try to keep up I can be slack. my likely excuse is as i get older my job drains me more. anyway your post are always very informative.thanks and keep up the good work.
wiredog i want to thank you for this post. as you know i have been on a roll today mainly as i said it just really rubs me the wrong way that questions keep piling up but never any answers. sometimes im my own worst enemy as far as brain washing myself OR GETTING STUCK ON SOMETHING. I said to someone in a post a while back look-it. these are real businesses in these announced field trials and they arent going to be quoted saying anything that is fraudulent. That just dont make any sense to think they would. And CLYW has had to show them something or they wouldnt be involved in any manner with them. They have to much to lose. Thanks again for helping me refocus, BUT I still would like some answers about some things.
so if anyone knows the financial position of a company..past..present and future would it not be the Chief Financial Officer. now this man Stump has just dumped all his shares. Hey he only had 30000 more than me , so what did he know that he wasnt buying. maybe a good reason but let us know. yes this and Leon resigning is to weird within 2 weeks of each other..now it was just said Robert still owns 1.8 million shares and if something was going on he would have dumped his.....like how in the crap would he have got rid of that many before us mindless shareholders would have said...wait a minute...as i read it leon sold 155000 on form 4 http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/holdings.asp?mode=&kind=&symbol=CLYW&symbol=&symbol=&s...
and has sold 807896 on form 144;
http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/holdings.asp?mode=&kind=&symbol=CLYW&symbol=&symbol=&s...
thats just shy of one million shares...962896 in the past 6 months. sence 12/31/04....I THINK THAT IS BORDERLINE DUMPING.
and now with him resigning.......I to would like some answers other than have patience longs, and a few more weeks. listen everyone im not trying to be negative and sure as heck not a basher...but pinksheets or not we deserve some answers...the questions just keep piling up and never any answers....and believe me when i say..reguardless how i may come off sometimes i respect all of you and your opinions. thats how we get through these times and helps me make better decisions.
thanks johnnym for the offer but i already own a pyramid on my ocean front property in Tennessee.
bill 2124, hope your vacation was a good one. I had to work all week-end but start vacation this Saturday. Anyway, yes I did speak to Ms. Amguello on 6/30 post # 13365 and she confirmed that Robert had resigned on 6/22 but George was going to speak to him about subject unknown when George returned from London last Friday. there was some speculation on this board about what it all ment but I personally think the company should have made something public by now..If you notice on his last three Form 4's of last week it states he resigned on 6/22/05 in the relationship/ box 4 where is use to read chief technocal officer. anyway this is old news but thought id just respond to your question.
bill2124 did you miss the fact that Robert Leon has resigned from CLYW confirmed by Allcia Arguelle of Calypso. I for one would like to know why..
I have finally figured it out. we are stuck in some kind of calypso time warp where everything is always coming NEXT WEEK but as we know NEXT WEEK really never gets here. THATS COOL, I guess, ill live forever but ill be broke. Over time Leon kept selling shares with a light at the end of the Cosmos p.r. thrown in here and there so all of us mindless shareholders would keep thinking NEXT WEEK,NEXT WEEK,NEXT WEEK. now the CFO is selling his shares and is announced on the same day that another light at the end of the cosmos p.r. is issued so us mindless shareholders will keep thinking gotta be NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK..if i only had the time to go back and count the times ASNAP you have said NEXT WEEK and nothing ever happened it would probably freak me out. and when i say nothing happened i mean anything galaxy shakin that helped the pps..you seem to know things sometimes... BUT........I dont much care what happens if it dont effect the pps in a positive way who cares. anyway with all that said here i still and will continue to say NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK....how did this happen to me.
ALL that crap aside I guess what really bothers me is that as confident as i think i am about CALYPSO, there is no reason and i mean NO REASON why we havent been informed on the ROBERT LEON happenings. To find out on a FORM 4 IS just to much to begin with,I MEAN THIS IS THE MAN THAT STARTED THIS COMPANY ISNT IT...AND ALL THIS TIME LATER WE'VE BEEN TOLD NOTHING...THATS THE ONE THING THAT IS REALLY PLACING DOUBT IN MY MIND... Alice said in our phone conversation that George and Robert were to continue talks on Friday last week.Well even if no resolve yet tell me something. come on ,arent they smart enough to know what everyone thought and is thinking. But still nothing to give us even a little piece of mind. NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK..........I guess you can tell im having a really slow day at work..
so Stump {CFO} decides to sell all of his shares...
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3D%5C2005%5C07%5C06%5CEDGARNew...
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?symbol=CLYW
sorry bbaazzuurraahh, but i dont think i get the point. as i was talking this morning, just another P.R. about another field trial with another company. its been 36 days sence the 1st one with Sleipner and as far as we know nothing has ever happened. As far as being in german, every p.r. released i have found on different websites from other lands in other languages so I dont find that of any importance. forget the dime a dozen p.r's, the moving day averages. the bar charts the candlesticks the technacal this and that, american- bull,,jim cramer,and even if the 2nd moon of Saturn lines up with our moon and mercury and everything else. Untill a field trial is complete..orders placed and delivered and CLYW's 1st dollar hung on the wall, is anything of any importance such as pps gonna happen. just my worthless point of view.
well here we are Wednesday the 6th and i see nothing about any demo with frac telecom. I worked all week-end {yes dave8 #13488 im sure 100s of thousands of us work on holidays} so with something as important as letting shareholders know of demo success of a up and coming company why wasnt CLYW management at work. when i talked with Ms. Allcia Arguella on Thur the 30th
# 13365 she said demos a success with {Frac Telecom in U.K.} and George to be back in Miami office Friday 1st and P.R. to follow. now some on this board said the wording had to be got right, this and that ,blah blah blah.. If demos took place the 27th and 28th Monday and Tuesday that left Wed and Thur for CLYW and Frac telecom to set down and come up with a p.r before George flew back Friday. now for any of you that are ready to start calling this bashing get over it. i still own my measly 20000 shares and will till whatever, but this string along crap is just a little old. I had a good week-end at work not even thinking about this stock because i knew for"sure" come at least by Tuesday morning things were going to be flying to some degree. Now this p.r. with Ecutel about successful demo i just dont understand. Is a demo and a field trial now the same thing just different words. A contract for field trials already released in p.r with this company so demo now i dont get, i dont get,i dont get. shouldnt a successful demo p.r been released then the field trial contract pr released. now in my world of doing things trying to relate to Calypso, here is what i would see. O.k. this company of mine has a new technolgy that is going to change the wireless world as we know it. I have no revenues because i havent sold anything so i really need to get the ball rolling because #1 im tired of being broke.#2 I want to keep the confindence of my SHAREHOLDERS. #3 Untill something better comes along the wireless world will marvil at what i have acomplished. #4 i need to get listed on the Nasdaq exchange because this company is here to stay and on & on & on, you get the point. {All these freakin p.r's showing up on pinksheets.com
are doing nothing for me or the pps.} Now today June 1st I have signed a contract with Sleipner and the field trial will be finished by the 20th.....I have signed on the 7th with America Movil I wont the field trial to be finished by the 30th...Signed with Ecutel on the 15th need to be finished by July 10th. Now i can tell my wife im gonna paint the house all summer but untill i pick up a paint brush it aint gonna happen......Now ive heard it said that CLYW has to watch its step and watch for competators,spys and thiefs but look-it...We have the patent...field trial these companys..sell it to them so they can put it in their phone and let the good times roll...MEANING Clypso is listed..marketcap in the billions and my 20000 shares make me a pretty well off man...Com'on Calypso its time to rock and get this done...Its JULY 6, 2005 ALREADY......EATHER ASNAP AND PHONES ARE READY OR THEY ARE NOT AND PROBABLY WONT BE....So thats my thoughts and venting this morning. Hope everybody has a good day and some good news comes our way soon...Sales news...I got to get back to work......
well let me see ..............................................I just pulled off the highway...
look, recall (in your case tenac start paying attention to the
144 posts on here),
must be i have not been speaking english today or you need to get off the road and catch up before you post. have a safe trip....
the reason i really want to know is if any of you havent checked out CLYW on the Nasdaq.com site there is a really good list of 144's starting on 12/16/03. ive been looking these over and a heck of alot of shares on 144,s are listed in the past 18 months and I dont see the stock price has really ever been effected. Have been in the same pps range most of the 18 months. and the form 4's have been only Robert Leon ,no other management. so check it out.
http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/holdings.asp?mode=&kind=&symbol=CLYW&symbol=&symbol=&s...
again who are all these ppl...6,462,000 shares in the past 12 months and i dont see it has hurt the stock running on no sales.
the pulldown it the center will give you the form 4s
O.K jetsmets sence you just posted these 144's i'll ask you. I posted this statement/question this morning and got no responce so maybe you can help me, here is the post.
Posted by: tenac
In reply to: None Date:6/30/2005 9:28:16 AM
Post #of 13384
question about these 144's we have seen so much of. I have said before i have been trading stocks for quite a few years but all on the nyse and nasdaq, this is my first pinksheet. to be honest i have really never paid much attention to form 4 or 144's. i buy my stocks on news ,the company itself and their earnings. I watch over things but as far as insider trading {buying and selling} i can keep up with that on cnbc website as well as alot of things but i visit many sites for my dd. IM a buy and hold guy but do try to trade on the high and lows as we know thats what most stocks do as you look at their charts. with any stock if someone is selling someone is buying. most any stock on any day millions of shares are traded. so with all these shares that have been sold, announced first on the 4 or 144,someone has bought them so does that really mean anything..NOW I KNOW IF INSIDERS WITH ANY COMPANY ARE SELLING, SOMETHING AINT RIGHT AND I GET OUT. but who are most of these people on these forms that are selling CLYW, AND DOES IT REALLY MATTER. the shares are restricted so i guess to some people reguardless of price when they can finally get rid of them they do.. I see people i work with selling future shares {as we call them} all the time, as soon as they can reguardless of the price, because they become vested and they want or need the money for something. So again is this selling of any real importance are people just selling stock.