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I can't watch L2, but unless it was wash trades it was one of 2 things:
Someone with a lot of shares (doing washes) while holding pps up
Or....
Somebody (s) loading
I don't see the close to sub penny anywhere....or are u just hoping?
I asked the head of M&A at AMP to consider buying this company or look into an executive position with MP as a retiremt project (only reason i brought it up was becaue he asked what i thought about owning a biz like a laundrymat....i got the sense he's trying to male sure he doesnt get bored) and he scoffed at me and said "I told you not to buy that sh$%"....then I mentioned Mr. Buhler was a part of the team.....silence since....I'll so if I can fish for an opinion when back in the states....
Doubt I will get anything as he defines himself by his business and moral ethics....
To be optomistic...I expect sporadic, yet continueos positive news beginning this week; maybe as early as today leading up to the q3.
Good luck all
Jw, had my first to start and glance at S1a.
How is the following true if they are getting rid of toxic debt by issuing 305 million shares? Increase outstanding by 73 million?
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The Offering
Common Stock Offered by the Selling Security Holders 305,000,000 shares, including (i) 258,300,000 shares of common stock and (ii) 46,700,000 shares underlying warrants.
Common Stock Outstanding Before the Offering 1,487,820,172 shares of common stock as of August 28, 2012.
Common Stock Outstanding After the Offering 1,558,282,658 shares of common stock (1).
Terms of the Offering The selling security holder will determine when and how they will sell the common stock offered in this prospectus.
Termination of the Offering The offering will conclude upon such time as all of the common stock has been sold pursuant to the registration statement.
Use of Proceeds We are not selling any shares of common stock in this offering and, as a result, will not receive any proceeds from this offering. See Use of Proceeds.”
Risk Factors The common stock offered hereby involves a high degree of risk and should not be purchased by investors who cannot afford the loss of their entire investment. See Risk Factors” beginning on page 6.
OTCBB Symbol MSLP.OB
(1) Assumes the exercise of all shares underlying warrants being registered hereunder.
I actually could see it via a buyout by pepsi or coke.
Interesting...as a mixture of my thoughts and those mentioned...Keith g - sabermetrics....I could see both Pepsi and coke looking at each other waiting to who goes first?
Both thinking "let's see who can do the most dirty work; before we put our mark on it?"
With mp doing clinical trials with only bamned substance free ingredients.... Potential is there....for all possibilities.
And from a business perspective ....options/choices are invaluable....and the sky could be the limit??
Let's see if mp dirty work is worth it? And how much? And to whom?
Also what makes amino1 special? I'm being serious....I am scared to put any substances in my body (other than alcohol and cigarettes- LOL - nobody is perfect) I only eat fruit and vegetable from my backyard and meat and bread from market other than the above....I do not take medicine when sick or anything.....seriously I am curious what it clinically does and what it does in your opinion.
No problem guys..avocet the problem with me here is I am only using wi-fi which is slow and a pain as I am using my iPhone only. I also had more than one phrase to share. While here I open post a message page then disconnect until done writing then reconnect.
In regards to being involved with a soccer club....that has a long way to go (I think). I went to the Corinthians club/academy (they are one of the biggest if not the biggest in Sao pAulo. FYI anderson silva is a corinthian...so I had hopes they would be selling mp products in their club pharmacy, but they only carried one Brazilian supplement company products (I forget name, but didn't feel it was important because it was practically non-existant). IMO - if they announced they were being sold there it would be another massive exposure because these clubs/academies support every sport from soccer to mma, to tennis , to swimming....these types of clubs reputation is based on soccer, but their significance is incredibly influential....it's hard to explain because nothing exist in the US that is even comparable (the closest would be an Olympic club/academy that supports all sports.
I am trying to go visit a few mma facilities this week....if anybody has some questions they think may be useful to ask don't hesitate to post and I'll see what I can do...either way I'll post what I can.
Sorry for the lengthily ramble....just a pain in the butt to login in to wi-fi over and over again....
And avocet I would appreciate you don't talk to me or anybody with that tone. I ask questions as well (some ignorant because my lack of understanding), but I always try to learn for myself first before I just start asking for answers.
Sorry man, i guess its your loss. I'm here to visi family not work for you...
It would take 1 minute of your time and the post reads "brazil photo and update" in the title.
No offense intended....family is my priority at the moment....go ahead and repost it when you find it
Or is this just another example that you come here to practice your journalism skills???? It's not hard to locate.
Go through my recent posts.... It's not too far back....
I don't see where I insinuated docks was desperate....
I wasn't saying its not good that mp is in dicks either.
I was making the point it's not a game changer and I wouldn't be surprised if it was dicks who wants to carry mp products as they broaden their market share during their expansion mode which you point out very well.
I would expect that you are aware that a dicks buyer rep could have seen mp in another supplement store and television and call mp and said "we would like to carry your product....." that's how my friends' and I towel product ended up in some TJmax locations...a buyer saw it at sports chalet and contacted us.
And yes the brazil news I shared was atlesst 10x more important.
EEdit: The question I would like answer to is who wants mp in dicks more? Mp or dicks?
IMO - dicks
Why?
Every major supplement outlet carries mp. Dicks is trying to attract a broader base of clientele as they expand....yes dicks is in expansion mode. One thing I consistently look at is source of info...and why....
Worst case scenario this is mutual, but definitely not a desperate move by mp....mp could drops dicks at any moment and I could care less....yes it's good, but not the game changer.
For me the brazil news I shared was 10x more important....it also show me who really cares about investsemt vs making 50000% penny stock gains.
It was me that posted buy back....it's ok to mention my name...my feelings won't be hurt....I was thinking out loud.
I know that I have put a bid in at .0087...an at the same time bought at .011...why couldn't vfin do that?
And volume is necessary for them to execute buy back.
I also commented that there weren't many followers of the pumpers...it was only paid promo people...I will not be surprised if the amount of shareholders further decreased on the last 2 day pump....
Above is IMo ....shot in the dark....which makes some sense to me.
But I think we can all agree that mp seems to work in mysterious ways.
Sbd11 I really appreciated your post yesterday. More happened thaneets the eye the last couple if days...
Anybody notice nobody other than the paid promoters were here....it wasn't their followers. Last time in the pump there significantly fewer "paid - compensated awareness" pumpers. How much anybody wanna bet there are even fewer shareholders than before the pump and as well as last q.
Also what is problem with them paying a few bucks to increase volume to o increase buy back volume?
I've never been a pumper, but ill go along with when it comes.... By the way I didn't sell a single share....didn't even come close to my sell point which is .045. My avg is .0156, but I feel the should be at atlesst at .045 once they show profit.....and I'm not selling everything either just 25% because that's why I have more than I feel comfortable investing here.
Only thing I'm sure of is mslp doesn't communicate as much as they should/could and they work in mysterious wAys.
And I take a lot of shots in the dark as I try and learn.
Really curious how many shareholders they were able to knock outta here??
That's what they did last pump as well....you know that I'm no trade pro, but not stupid either.....for all I know you paid for the pump to liquidate your shares?? Or they paid for this mini pump (that's what it is so far...) to get you to liquidate so then they can do a missive pump?
IMO guesses....all or none could be true? Only you personally could eliminate some of those possibilities
How did volume just jump 2.5 million shares?
Can't see L2
Thanks for that L2 shot! Buy back in effect. Mslp is loading shares. Nite holds the pps and vfin sells on a tick back to mslp.
What is sunr ask?
But wouldn't he back off if everybody else backed off?
I'm sure he wants to the most for his money as well...wouldn't you think?
It was awesome to mp in every retail brick and mortar location in sao paulo brazil. They keep assault by the register because people will steal it cause it's so good....we're talking about the second biggest city in the world.
That is a truthful pump
Of course it's a biz in itself, but just go with it for now....it can't hurt.
Within the last year it has grown exponentially here.
As far as 10q showing this in a line item form - no....I have and am trying to figure out the same thing.
I am not even close to being properly educated enough to speculate in sec filings especially those in penny land...for all I know the buy annually or semi annually, or even quarterly....it would be great to know as this could offset seasonal sales as brazil is on the opposite side of the equator.
For example the could have boosted numbers in the first q by selling an entire year worth of product in q1 and then nothing more the rest of the year...or a big order could show up on q3?
Also they finally showed inventory as a line item on the last q which they had never done, but nobody knows ( or I atlesst not sharing) how they determine inventory.
The positives I have seen from a general perspective are their filings are becoming clearer and more in line with big board companies as well as their pr's. Example is all recent filings and amendments and the fact that in the past they would state dicks is selling product when it was only a test run...now they are saying how many stores exactly and product has begun shipment.
There has been a very big change in connotation in regards to their communication....history is weight with longs and flippers and wanna be pumpers take advantage of this historical failure.
Hoping we can break through.....If this hits .05? .10 Is no problem....
Again I'm not a sex filing or share structure master..
My opinion is a major pump is due between now end mid/end sept with the goal of a sustained .045 or more pps (.045 will become the new bottom). IMO and hope
I'm well aware of that as well....but for me it was important to see and talk because of a few reasons.
I was able to see if it was readily available to passing public and gyms.
Also from those that use product (family friends - one. Weight lifter the other a fighter said they as well as a lot of public prefer to buy from store location as you get it right there and then and there is very little if any difference if any in price.
Literally it is in every brick and mortar here (second biggest city in the world) it sells the best....it's in the front window of every location. They keep it right by the cash register....it can't be avoided. It's definitely number 1 here ( based on why I have seen and been told so far)
Not sure if these are related as I am unable to open both sites because of flash reader...
http://m.prnewswire.com/news-releases/octagon-sports-marketing-powerhouse-expands-brazil-footprint-by-acquiring-veteran-sports-marketing-firm-b2s-102506604.html
Here is the website I got from the email written on the business card I took(the site I can't open- has an "O" shaped like a octagon.
http://www.octagonbrasil.com.br/
The email on the biz card is westplaza@octagonbrasil.com.br
If anybody has better search methods to get me going in the right direction and questions I will do what I can....
Amount o stores unknown. Trying to find out, but I'm here for family and doing things via wi-fi when I can....international data can get super expensive.
I do know octagon has a huge presence here in brazil....a guess is a minimum of 30 locations....it's one of the if not the most reputable here.
....but you must remember how big the population is in Sao Paulo ( I think the second or third largest in the world)....but it's big like new york as in tall so a lot of people in a small area meaning lesss locations needed to maintain a huge presence.
You could try a google search like octagon Brasil fitness store /gym locations.
Or search google.com.br and use google translator to search and try variations....
I should have asked the guy how many they have, but forgot.....again I'm here for family as priority (my wife is Brazilian)
I would appreciate if you share with me any findings you can get and or questions that come to mind......I would definitely ask....
I'm staying the the (bairro) neighborhood of pompeia in Sao Paulo, sao Paulo, Brasil. It's close to the Palmeras (soccer team) stadium.
MSLP Brasil photos and info update:
Hopefully i loaded these photos correctly...
http://s1065.photobucket.com/albums/u392/Learningcurvebrazil/?action=view¤t=8883a821.jpg
2nd photo:
http://s1065.photobucket.com/albums/u392/Learningcurvebrazil/?action=view¤t=4749c74f.jpg
I'm not the best photo taker, but wanted to make sure I included name of store in photo as well as product (that's why the actual mp product is kinda hard to see, but it is in the store front windows)
Ultra nutrition esportivo was a small shop about 15 feet by 15 feet and located inside a shopping mall. Worker said they sell about 25 tubs if assault a month and is the best by far, but expensive, yet their second best seller for preworkout. Currently sold out and takes about six days to get more. Said they sell a lot of combat powder and it was his preference and no problems keeping in stock as his distributor has tons in stock (1 day to restock). Said he prefers there bcaa, but not enough buyers and a lot of competition therefore they don't carry it. This location only sells assault and combat powder.
Octagon fitness store- a very strong brand for supplements and gyms carried assault and combat powder only as well. Worker said the sell a lot of combat powder and they had a lot on the shelf and in window so people know the carry mp products. Worker said assault is the best selling preworkout as well. Product was stacked on cash register table because people steal it. In shopping mall a well. Said they sell minimum 35 tubs a month and is guaranteed to be in every single octagon fitness store and gym in Brasil. When they get down to 5 tuns they reorder and order is restocked within 24 hours with no issues or exceptions. He could not guarantee me that assault and combat is sold in every supplement store in Sao Paulo; he could only guarantee every single octagon store and gym. HYe said they are selling more and more every month.
On the tub of assault it said imported by ABE.
So to date I went to 2 octagon locations and one ultra nutrition esportivo and all carry mp.
I hope to get more info in coming days, but my priority is to visit with family.
Personally I was very happy with the following:
Assault so good it is sold out and kept close to shelf because people will steal. Carried in every brick and mortar I saw. Carried in every octagon gym and store.
Justlovethegame Is that your 4 milly people are mentioning?
Atlesst you've been as honest as you could to date....a little more would be appreciated.... You've said you were going to sell no matter what in this date range.
Can u provide update status on that proclamation?
I'll miss your post....
Justlovethegame I that your 4 milly people are mentioning?
Atlesst you've been as honest as you could to date....a little more would be appreciated.... You've said you were going to sell no matter what in this date range.
Can u provide update status on that proclamation?
I'll miss your post....
I will have some good news before the bell today,,,maybe great,,,,maybe huge???
But I can't release till after the bell....hanging with ladies (shopping today)
People fail to realize the changes being made ImO.
Not all their fault though as mp would announce they were in dicks if only 5 stores did a test run....when mp should have stated it was a test run. Now they are stating shipments have begun and will be in 483 dicks locations.
Another example is the trials for assault....people thought the 8/1/12 news was old news, but it wasn't ....it was phase 2 completion.
Also if you look at what products are being sold internationally it is very interesting and finally aligns with today's pr. Assault , combat, And muscle gel..these are the only products sol in Brasil.
Consolidation of product and distribution is a great thing.
There is more here than people are seeing
The problem of share structure is still an issue and I am by no means an expert.
I hope to post great brazil news within the next day or 2.
The difference in my opinion (pretty sure of this) is that in the past is that if they did a test run in a retailer they would announce it as a full blown contract to distribute to all locations of said retailer rather than say it was a test run.
This pr however states that shipments have begun and will be within a few weeks in a total of 483 locations. It's a very specific or that is not misleading or subject to interpretation.
I like this very much
Do you use level 2? Could you explain the strangeness? I can't acces L2 here....
Have you ever been here? You familair with neighborhood pompeia...close to Palmeras stadium....with a "mma" (actual mark of gym on the outside of building) gym right around the corner from my in laws apartment.
If you could explain your reason for strange I would appreciate it
I have no idea if this worked or not? Can anybody see the image? It's buildings forever....did I do this correctly?
Photo test....
Just trying to see I advice neuronal gave me for uploading photos work so I can upload pictures from the brick and mortar locations here in brazil.
This is picture of a small part of Sao Paulo brazil the view goes on, and on, and on forever and ever....so if the are truly selling product at evey brick and mortar location here which I should know in a few days...sales should be huge.
Photo Sao Paulo:
http://s1065.photobucket.com/albums/u392/Learningcurvebrazil/?action=view¤t=b51295ed.jpg
http://s1065.photobucket.com/albums/u392/Learningcurvebrazil/?action=downloadpage&download_id=2574013&evt=dl_email_click
So i was right about to sell before them people would need to sell less than .011? I should haver not motioned derivative ...should have said toxic debt was being purchased at this sustained pps otherwise it would be a full on dump?withouy a pump.
The only thing that's interesting about this is any prefers below .011 get taken in a momment.
Any input after reading the latest q how they report sales? Would you assume that any product in brazil on the shelf is already recorded as revenue? Could it be inventory?
So you're selling at .0108?
He's saying they are holding the pps here so it coincides with the books of a prior agreement with a limited effect on derivative liabilities. At least that's how I interpreted jltg comment.
I'm going to be running a brazil campaign by end of the week....could be great, but unsure till I see for myself
Well I'll come out and say it.... Is this a heads up for regulars here to pick shares before compensation increases, or is it fake to get a million more pennies out of the longs that follow this board?
Can mp products go old...what's the shelf life?
I wonder if the importer for brazil buys once a year, once a quater, once very six months....how would this be recorded on the books?
Answers welcome as this may help me fish for more info from the manager.
And regarding my previous post he said "every" Brick and mortar location irrelevant of store name or mark...I will see for myself soon
I've become more optimistic since I arrived in Brasil.
I spoke with 2 friends at a family welcoming party we had; one a weight lifter , the other trains in mma.
Both said without a doubt has the best reputation of any supplement company in Brasil....almost only assault....and to me is was kinda funny the way they talked about it, like it was some kinda super special drug that have people super powers.
In all seriousness:
Weightlifter changed frOm Probiotica to assault and said everybody with money is changing over. He also said it sells in every brick and mortar location in Sao Paulo that sells supplements of any kind....I should be able to verify this myself with pictures by Tuesday or Wednesday (the only man in the household here is my wife's father so it's guaranteed to go shopping) and by what he said it should be everywhere.
Mma guy said it is sold in his gym and that anybody who has any legit training is using mp assault as well.
How can I post photos on here.....more specifically photos from my iPhone?
I will see if I can talk to manager and get a better idea of how much they sell and on what terms....it doesn't matter if everybody carries it if nobody buy it (however based on conversations to date I am very optimistic)
Also this obviously doesn't effect share structure either, but I personally feel they sandbagged their most recent q reports....I may get a better idea regarding both soon.
Somebody please reply how to post photos from my iPhone on this board.
Boa sorte gente!
You're still around? Thought maybe you jumped ship. Have you checkd you box....I wanted to know your input and if you heard anything yet or since for that matter?
Good luck on your future endeavor!
You still holding or just stopped by to tease?
Coach mentioned this last night as well as today....and I "think" he is correct as it was my interpretation as well.
How does anybody know what the inventory was last q let alone any previous q? The didn't even have a line item for this?
I think this company "was" being run like EnRon and they deflated (the word I used) / sandbagged (word coach used) the numbers this q.
Again my speculation which may or may not be correct.
I will say that I do think that this company was being run like ENRON regarding every aspect of operations including apparel...knowing that now because of clearer accounting I am actually surprised at the turn around they have pulled off and I think it will only get better from here.
If it were still being run like Emron the doors would already be closed and managent would be behind bars....
Maybe a miracle in the making with the new execs?