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Thanks, I've read some of the "sticky" notes on this board. Sorry, the more I read the less credible TWDL becomes.
The assays by CSAL, D A Shah,as the the NV BLM indicates, are less that reliable. Also,the PR's point to 3M, a Company, some posters have said and provided links to the NV, SOS that 3M is a "revoked" Company.
Also, the assays performed by D A Shah, site no source, nor talk about "chain of custody".
The 3M web site talks about Legacy Rock?? IMO, the PR's scramble around not really talking about one source of this "claimed" mineralization.
Maybe it's my DD dunno?
Thank you for the reply, along with links supporting what you say.
I'm "fairly" informed regarding SW Arizona and some alleged mining operations located there-in. I should think that the regions are "geologically" related.
Also, I know of D.A. Shah along with Donald Jordan as both have less than stellar metallurgical capabilities.
1manband, Help me if you will! I've yet to see documentation that talks about "if" the claimed resource can be extracted at a profit. I would think such report should be accomplished by a recognized Geo-technical Company, ideally, a Company with experience in the areas of the "claimed" resource. TIA
At this juncture, I can't explain with reasonable certainty What this Company does
I think this board needs both sides of the obvious issues discussed and links supporting such findings. Not just empty words.
I do know from past experience that the geological area this Company claims vast PGM assets, doesn't support that notion .
A simple Nevada Department of Mining search of the Counties involved will reveal the types and expected mineral quantities.
I would think that you might do some DD on your own, to learn if what is currently being posted is "false". Should you find information that refutes the claim that TWDL is a fraud, please post supporting links as the posters have done.
The info this company disseminates is a bit ambiguous, I don't know if I own a water company, mining company whose product is either ordinary rocks, or the Worlds largest Platinum reserves?
Simply refuting claims of fraud with words, is a bit lacking, don't you agree.
The following claim in your post is NOT accurate PERIOD
contact the SOS of Nevada to get your money back
Great endorsement, "awesomepennys"!
I'd sign up for assays from a Bondar-Clegg, ActLab, etc. and an extraction feasibility/cost study done by a SW Geo-technical Company.
You know, details a junior gold might provide.
I get your point, of "short term value". I would think a Companies mission would be to provide share holders a stock that has growth potential.
A Company with proven assets, transparency, as the Dodge-Phillps, Barrick-Golds establishes growth.
That said, Short term runs,IMO create uncertainty.
the company may yet be positioning it for another run.
Thanks for your reply. I thought the Craigslist reference a bit sketchy.
While the articles in the links are dated 2010,I'd think BH would've PR'ed the purchase/re-branding. Share holders could've used the boost.
Any event, nice "bump" today! I haven't checked the buy/sell ratio today, that's next.
I read all of the links, I didn't see a connection between BCCI, Tim Wilson and his coffee stand bidness, Ooh La Latte. The 1st article, Missoulian http://missoulian.com/entertainment/dining/article_7e5f8bba-6fe5-11df-8531-001cc4c03286.html
The article did quote Willson saying he got the idea from a friend from Yakima, Washington back in 2002. If that's the connection, it's a stretch.
Could be I missed the connection??
In the last year TWDL has had 4 runs of over 100% each time
Twice has TWDL ran over 400% in the last year
TWDL ran for 725% once in the last year
noquit, Sorry, your argument to suggest that "investors" file a complaint is groundless. Do you imply, filing with the SEC?, Nevada SOS? or what entity? None of my listed governing entities will pick up this case, while there appears sufficient grounds. The burden of proof at this juncture is Company miss leading PR's containing "boastful" claims of wealth. In this case, "talk is cheep" and not culpable!
However, should the Company produce financials and attempt to "book" the "vapor" assets and file such document with any of the listed entities,IMHO, then the Company may be worthy of a "look-see"!
Another option might be an investor "class action" law suit. My guess, none here have pockets deep enough to pursue the matter.
So, what remains? a stinky pinky that one might "flip" for a few percentage point gains, or LOSSES!
Of course there's Gold in Nevada, the question remains, is the Gold this company claims, recoverable at a PROFIT? The answer to the previous is an unequivocal NO!
I don't understand your tenacity in supporting what the Geology does not! Curious!
FloridaFH, Her reply is hear-say and IMO, worthless. How is an investor able to determine that in fact she was told what she posts?
I heard it directly from two Baristas who were working in the one by Lynnwood. They said they had just finished shooting in a house and that it was really fun. They said they did not know when they would see it but this was a couple of weeks ago. They said it was being edited.
I respectfully disagree, of course you're entitled to your opinion!
My opinion regarding economical recovery of Au in SW Nv is provable.
You said;
If you were an assayer, and I submitted a sample to you and you reported what you found in it, would you be responsible for how it got to you as well ?
Of course not.
Learn the process.
The relevance in Geological terms is the fact that the ground in both regions are with in Geological INCHES of each other, thus, "can" support the conclusion that Clark County including most of SW NV doesn't have the ground than would hold economically recoverable Au or Pt or any other PGE.
IMCAT, thanks for the PM, I can no longer use PM, the Mods "spanked" me and revoked my GF standing since 1998, go figure.
Thanks for the info, Re; Skull Valley and Copper Basin, I know the are well enough as does Dodge Phillps. DP has done quite a bit of exploration in the area and found no ground worthy of further investment. Even with Au at $1600 an Oz.
BTW: It's fun to expose these Desert dirt scam obloviators! LOL!!
Tree, remember the following? While it's Arizona, geologically speaking, it's only inches from Clark County!
These people are in major denial,IMHO and ill informed as well.
Are platinum group metals now produced from newly mined rock (not platinum ore) in Arizona?
The answer is, "Yes." Platinum group elements are recovered from anode slimes produced during the refining of copper. Emphasis must be placed on the term "refining" of copper. Slimes are not produced at the smelter stage of copper production. In addition, the process must be electrolytic and not fire refining.
As an example, one ton of anode slimes is recovered from 178,200 tons of ore at the electrolytic refinery of Inspiration Consolidated Copper Company at Inspiration, Arizona. At this rate, the following figures can be calculated based on known concentration ratios and recoveries (custom ore to the refinery is also included in this calculation):
66 tons of copper ore = 1 ton of copper concentrate
3 tons of concentrate(198 tons of ore) = 1 ton of copper anode
900 tons of anode (178,200 tons of ore) = 1 ton of cathode slime
2 tons of slime(356,400 tons of ore) = 1 ounce of platinum Simply put, one could remove one foot deep of material of TWDL total claim might come close to 178 thousand tons. LOL
Tree, You forgot the "FACT" that Shah found Au, Pt in the Arizona Bureau of Mines "Control Blank" ore sample! That was/is a mind blower! To funny.
Chiming in,not much activity, a few "trades" painted. No new news that I can find.
No confirmed "buyers"
No confirmed offers to buy material stored, take over existing lease.
No nothing!
This was posted yesterday, we didn't forget.
BodSinCA, Excellent reply, thank you.
FYI, I owned pre R/S ICTN now have 20/1 less in BCCI. I've witnessed most of BH'S past dealings. As a result, I'm more than fish eyed with all the unbridled Pro opinion posts.
I look forward to all "factual" posts on this board either pro or con as long as the opinions are grounded in fact. I don't ask to much, but it is a huge pain going thru boastful, repetitive posts.
This is a "true" cut-n-paste from the article.
Java Girls, which opened in November, employs "bikini baristas." The concept, originated in the Seattle area in the early 2000s, has since spread across the country, with shops in California, Texas and Oregon.
The 1st bikini clad coffee stand started in the Rose Hill neighborhood of Kirkland, WA. I was there!!!!!
Did I miss the written words in the article you posted?? Curious!
Prolly why BCCI's PPS doesn't advance, as there's, apparently no "Trade Mark" or business model protection implied or offered to protect a future franchise investors Capitol investment.
A Google search "may" reveal "JavaGirls" back ground.
You don't find it odd that since the run to .84, the PPS has been in decline, except the odd occasional bump?
Apparently your link has been "pulled" LOL
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The pic's of the girls you post prolly get $500-$750 and HOUR. No comparison to the (sic) talent in Tampa!
You should confirm "who" wrote the copy for the ad! I suspect it was BCCI not Playboy as you imply!
Doesn't mean a thing, it's "PAID" advertising!
A Baristas in Hollywood, with "attractive" girls like in Tampa?
You realize there's more "skin" and much more "attractive" girls in Receda,CA. LOL!!
For a Baristas girl to get a glance, she would have to be a 12, and BH couldn't afford her pay scale.
Please provide your source so you may claim BCCI securities are being shorted.
Tree, I needed to edit my previous post, the software doesn't provide that feature, so I removed the post.
The following is technically correct:
Tree, "IF" old shep tries to book the sand as assets, I know with out question, the SEC "MAY" files charges. I got that info from the SEC official that prosecuted furlong and pieterzac.I don't recall the year those two were convicted and sentenced?
Shorting an OTC or Pink sheet security!
I was way off base and to date been miss advised, I appolize to this board.
The following is correct!
Short selling is an effective trading strategy that can be employed to hedge the risk of a loss on an off-setting position or to speculate on an equity's price movement. In essence, short selling entails selling a stock that you do not own. An investor does this by borrowing the stock and immediately selling it in the market. If the price of the stock goes down, the investor makes a profit by purchasing the shares and delivering them to the individual from which they initially borrowed them. The profit arises from the difference between the stock's price at the time it was borrowed and the price at which it was subsequently purchased.
In regards to pink sheet and over-the-counter (OTC) listed securities, short selling is allowed. An OTC security is one that is not traded on a formal exchange such as the New York Stock Exchange or the American Stock Exchange. OTC securities are often quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board (OTCBB). Pink sheet securities are very similar to OTC securities in that they are not listed on exchanges, but are quoted on a daily publication issued by the National Quotation Bureau. However, pink sheet securities carry much more risk because they do not require the companies to register with the SEC or stay current in their financial statements.
Although short selling is allowed on these securities, it is not without its problems. Short selling on OTC is extremely risky because these securities are often very thinly traded, which makes them very illiquid. This illiquidity can prove hazardous if an investor needs to cover an increasingly unprofitable short position. If the volume is very low, covering the position may become a very unlikely prospect. Another problem that has arisen with short selling in OTC securities is the use of pump and dump schemes. These schemes are done by con artists who use internet message boards and SPAM emails to heavily promote a thinly traded stock in which they have long positions. When this happens, the result is often a high spike in the price of the stock, followed by a fall. However, the initial spike will devastate any investor with a short position. These schemes often use OTC stocks because they are relatively unknown when compared to exchange traded stocks.
Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/otcpinksheetshortselling.asp#ixzz1mR3cWqyO
Hey tree, Washington/Oregon must be getting some good wind?
You cleaning up?
Re: Our "new"poster, I could have provided that water purification out fit from Florida! As board "Mod" did I mess up?
Should you be serious....start with the following;
"Dr. Donald E. Jordan of Metallurgical Research and Assay Laboratory and Mr. Dnyanendra A. Shah, a registered Arizona assayer
Any alleged "opportunity" leans heavily toward B. Henthorn as usual!
There will be STUCK holders per BH's last two business ventures. It's a proven fact.
Yup! The Donald is interested in a two bit company run by a Seattle hack. Trump spends more on dinner then the sum total worth of this whole screw ball "edgy" company. I'm sold! LOL!
It's amazing when you line item old sheps letters, not only do they show a pattern of misleading drivel, they also compare closely to the garbage that finally nailed furbal.
Even more unbelievable, is that some still are in denial, and have ODed on nmcx koolaid and think some imaginary ship is about to arrive.
Just mt opinion, it might be a good idea to have gold metal on hand. If obama get reelected this country will be in deep crap. All that I read, hear say that his mission is to collapse the economy of this country and its democratic process. Scary at best. If a Reppub or libertarian wins, your gold at current price will retrace.