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No, that's not insider information at all!
As long as you sign a NDA, then you're considered an insider. Except well technically you could trade on the information. But hey let's forget about that for just a minute. I just got back from Seattle, where I viewed the 5 yr plan for miscrosoft, complete with all the technical spec.s on Windows Vista, including rollout plans but "Gatesey" just said, hey sign this NDA and you can have your way around the place!
The number one way to run a con is to tell them exactly what they want to hear, and make it just believable enough. Get someone from the patsy's group on your side, and make some other person the bad guy.
Once again, dialer will not release the TA to tell the truth about the share count. dialer will not explain why he needs 361 Million more shares than are supposedly printed and sold.
If you think that some reporting company that's 30 some million dollars is going to take 300,000,000 shares of a little 6 million dollar company, you're NUTS
cajun,
you must have missed it. We already sold our shares for $2.25. All of them. You'll have to get market price for yours. Turns out dialre was telling the truth after all. sorry.
another person who has no business buying pink sheet stocks
NOW, I HAVE REALLY SEEN IT ALL
I HAVE SEEN IT ALL
People are travelling to Texas to meet with dialer, to straighten out this mess, or at least see what they can learn of the state of affairs and the dialer has them sign a form stating that they cannot disclose anything that they're told?
And they're doing it?
That will stand up great in a court of law!
"your honor I object, the plaintiffs have signed a non-disclosure statement, therefore their statements are inadmissable in this court. whatever mr dial told them is plainly protected"
BBB: "but he told me there were only 39 Million shares outstanding"
"Order in the court, ignore that last statement!"
talk about a bunch of doorknobs
I swaer I'm sttarting a pinksheet company, if people are this easily duped
Well,
the dialer has been telling you guys for months, that there's only 39MM SOS and issued.
Now what would he need with 2 HUNDRED MILLION MORE shares, if there's still clearance for 1 hundred sixty one million shares left to sell?
I mean, he sells 161,000,000 shares and still needs more? Without asking the clear majority of shareholders of 24 some million on this board?
How can he do that? He's got to get a vote, right? Unless he printed himself another 50 million or so to keep his stake up while he sold the other 111,000,000 to you guys, who kept buying no matter how bad the evidence was piling up.
I cannot wait, simply cannot wait how the longs attempt to spin this.
Maybe they need it for the big merger! Heck dialer needs to raise 200,000,000 more shares it must be a REALLY BIG DEAL, RIGHT?
Eivdence mounts that he's printed and sold all the shares authorized, that the story of "naked shorts" is just a cover. Longs still hang on with all their might.
Right? or have some more of you woke up now?
This is sad..........................
would you say that big kabom is "imminent"?
I honestly haven't seen anything you've said or predicted come remotely close to being accurate.
I'm not necessarily knocking you because I admire your perseverence, honestly, and maybe you're having a run of bad luck or bad eyesight.....
Is this all just guessing for you? I don't mean to hurt your feelings but gosh, you keep saying bottom is in, and "she's gonna turn" and big move coming right after you said that big kaboom statment there was about 20 minutes with no prints at all!
what gives?
you know how birds and animals freak out before an earthquake? Maybe I'm innately intuned with a major dump coming and get nervous so I start asking questions for the board
or maybe I am here to try getting people to sell into the dump that I'm getting ready to create!
Maybe the people see me asking the right kinds of questions and get scared and all the people who read IHUB sell once I point out something that's questionable
OR then again the CEO caused a big down day last time he spoke, maybe this paid interview was like the last one, he wanted to dump some shares into the market and used the paid interview to try padding the bid a little?
Maybe there's just not any reason for holding the stock now, and people are weary of another drop towards the .08 level or below
perplexing isn't it?
PS YODA Good synopsis of the call, except I would NOT say that a MONTH is IMMINENT. Would you? How about you, fringe?
frige,
once again you misread and misjudge me
I am just trying to figure out what's going on with this "gamble" of mine. I would say investment but since you yourself are using gambling terms, you understand it's purely risk.
UNTIL WE SEE THE FILINGS
which are according to the CEO, twice now, "imminent".
So if you want to lable me as fomentor of trouble, sobeit. Really I couldn't care less. BUT I am using my judgement and not relying on some kind of tea lave rorschack inkblot method of guessing where or when a stock will move.
If IMMINENT means "today, tomorrow or at the latest Monday" then that's fine.
Would "imminent" also include the last day of Aug?
How about Labor day. If it's filed on or about Labor Day, in the USA, is that included in "imminent"?
Just asking an opinion here, not the definition as being a doctor I certainly can look up words. Why you might look up "paranoid delusional schizophrenic tendencies" while you're at it.
So, can we have an intelligent discussion about "imminent" and the practical meaning of the word, as applied to the CEO saying "filings are imminent", as in "we said three weeks but we're playing conservative there" in the MN1 interview, coupled with "imminent" means to me that it would be likely eny minute now, not maybe sometime next week. That would NOT be using "three weeks" CONSERVATIVELY, IMO.
OR
would you like to continue passing judgement on me instead?
By the way, I have called into BOTH radio interviews, so I'm certainly doing my best to get the information I need to feel comfortable holding these 200,000 shares I've talked myselfinto!!!
thank you very much
What does "imminent" mean?
His words were according to one poster, the filings are imminent, which to me means, any minute now
I would love to see some news out today.
Looks like there's some buying, but the volume is dismal
brikk there were many more peeps calling for a long white candle yesterday
don't give him crap if you're not going to call them out either
Ummmmm
I know some people think I've gotten overly negative on this stock and company the dialer included, but aren't we supposed to hear about a date for the "special shareholder meeting" this week?
Does Dialer have a calendar? It's Thursday, jimmy
I am long this stock
I have yet to see $15 per share, and Rufus DID say, that he would halt the stock and reset the price once the symbol changed hands.
I would like to see the naysayers shut up, but the only thing that's going to do that is if Mr Harris "puts up", and gets the shareholders informed about what's going on....
Short elimination I believe he called it
and I'll be honest I'm starting to get a little skeptical
I cannot hear it but I did get an answer to my question!
I wonder if it's going to be archived anywhere?
He sounded a LOT more put together on this interview compared to the last one I heard.....
interview on now
mcclaren sounds a little better than he did on MN1.
gosh I sure hope they dont need to do that
I think "SCAMEX" only needs a $1 minimum bid
If they show any level of cash on hand with all the rest of the information displayed out a dollar should NOT be that hard to get
R/S are HELL on pink sheet companies and sometimes they never come out of them.....
There's no hurry to get anywhere but the OTCBB and with filings they can do that almost instantly. AMEX isn't much better anyways, and if they got the goods to move on up the chain then I'll wait for NASDAQ/NYSE. The R/S is NOT worth the trouble just to get to amex
fring
these are all great statements and encouraging, to boot, YET people should realize that a CEO can lie through his teeth when speaking to any investor and has basically no impunity, no downside for doing so.
The pink sheets are full of CEO's who talk big talk, day in and day out and the stuff NEVER comes to fruition.
Now having said all that, I do like the sounds of the CEO saying the word SOON a few times....
When a CEO holds out some timeline it makes the liklihood that you're being scammed less and less
HE said three weeks on the mn1 interview for filings and said that he was being conservative about it, too
so here's two weeks now and he's doing another interview with another seemingly more respected host, with a larger audience
maybe(WHISHFUL THINKING) they are going to announce a filing
that "cash on hand" statement would be a GREAT THING for the stock price, if backed up with a sb filing showing CASH ON HAND
projected revenues does not book value make
not anywhere in history anyways..........
would be nice, but this kind of statement takes away from any legitiimacy a pink might gain in the first place
I sure hope that statement applies to wwen someday :)
jstone I just would rather not see mindless pumping on any board, and obviously the TA the fridge posts is not grounded in any kind of fact (he's been wrong almost as long as I'vebeen reading his posts) and the people reading his up up up posts might be inclined to buy when it's probably not a good idea to buy unless there's a change in the fundamental picture
last time they were on the air it was a disaater
granted it was mn1 and they're hacks with a hack show and a hack transmitter, and they hacked the company, to boot
but, the CEO did not highlight that he's got a 17 cent per gallon doodie-to-gasoline process either
let's hope he learned from that fiasco cause if it does the same thing the stock will be back at .01
J/K
Frigdge:
here is your post from 11:30 last night-
midas...
Big white candle tomorrow, and the day after.
Sorry.
fringe
ENDPOST
now unless I'm completely clueless about TA, what we have in reality is a BIG RED CANDLE, today
were you drunk, or was your TA wrong? I would love to have a great predictor of the market, and would love to see .30 again when the TA predicteed would also be great, but I see a LOT of shares bought above .15 that would love to be out
Don't get me wrong, I would love for the bullish sentiment to be proven correct, but I hate bs'ers and people who just love to pump pump pump with little or no fact to back it up
it's worse than mindless bashing by 10 fold cause it get's weak hands in here and we want strong hands
does TA call 2.3 million shares by 11 AM low vol?
I was kind of surprised that anyone bought above .09
Im waiting for yet more shares at <.09 and it looks like I'll get them by 3 PM today
unless news comes out which is the only catalyst for movement other than random movement, NOT to be confused with squiggly line theory of losing all your money due to bollies and macd's and parbolic sharks and whatnot..
hey fridge
you were saying about a bounce, back in the 20's
was that the bounce you were talking about, from 9-14 yesterday?
just curious,
because if I were saying "it's going up" for 8 straight down days in a row, I wouldn't show my face here, but that's just me
just keep saying "up day today" and you'll be about 50% before long
you guys have been saying up up up up candle candle candle candle since i bought in above 30 the first time
this is really a thing where you say the same thing and eventually youv'e got to be correct, right?
If I say heads each time I flip a coin sooner or later I'll be right.
I think that's what's going on here
GFCI may not be a perfect example of how a company should be run
I thought iad seen it all
Any existing shorts should be getting extremely nervous!
all 130,000 of them are likely shitting their pants
my position, to get it straight, is that either through outright fraud, or gross malfeasance, or simply being the the wrong space at the wrong time way over his head, dialer is giving you all the rounaround, and that there's no way out.
Once again, ignoring all the other dividends, timelines etc that have been set up and then never mentioned again, he did it again. "this week we will get notice of the time and date and location for a shareholder meeting" several people have allegedly been told.
What if this week comes and goes, and there's no announcement? Sadly I'm positive that some people will still be grifco/dialer apologists and still call us bears repetitive, bashers whatever.
People are forgetting that all of this business stuff, legal, auditors, are VERY expensive, and it makes me bleieve that there's probably not much of it going on, and if there is, it's not top quality (duh- look at the results) because it would be eating up millions of dollars and I don't think that they have that revenue stream. If so, then it eat up any profits, for sure.
I have a theory, that as dialer has come to get into this game, he has begun slowly to realize that he's dealing with real people with real hard earned and saved money, and that despite his pace, plan and path, that his innate is trying it's hardest to warn people off, unmet deadline after deadline, refusal to ungag the TA, complete lack of any substance to every single PR out there (nothing on revs, business, profits only a bunch of hazy dealmaking) that his voice is saying "eveything is fine" while he in fact got both of his forefingers cossed in front of his face, he's shaking his head violently and he's got a sour look on his face.
He is having a hard time actually playing along with this, "things will get better" scenario and keeps trying, harde r and harder to let the real situation bleed through.
It's as if, one day, when confronted, he'll be able to say, "well look nothing I ever tsaid publicly came true, how could you still believe I really had a handle on this stuff?"
I'm going on record as making a prediction that there's not going to be any announcement on any "special shareholder meeting" this week, or any week.
all IMO of course
I'm sure it hrts, having made such a bad financial decision
taking it out on me though isn't going to help
and my decision to use the term moronic was targeted at a decision, not a person or someone's life
as yours was to mine
I'm sorry that you're losing money and that dialre is treating this as his own piggy bank, but there's no excuse, none at all, for taking it out on me.......
mister moderator I protest that 'get a life' is indeed a personal attack
please pull this post at once, especially as I did not attakc peeker at all to deserve this attack
thank you
when is the special shareholder meeting? When is the dividend and when are the financials of CTBG to be caught up?
I must have missed these events. Can anyone help me ot?
Then again I would love to see the results of the Tranfer agent's statement, too.
I agree with bull, much as I don't like to denigrate clever, this stock has attracted a bunch of get rich quick wannabe's, wanting to turn 1000 into 1,000,000 with one fell swoop.
I saw on the RB board someone make the statement that a few people had put their whole lives savings into this stock
Not only is that moronic, but it's financial suicide, to boot.
Jim Dial would have HUGE brass balls to face the shareholders, now. I wonder if Lois will be there too, and her son in law evan jarvis? Mayb John will show his face, too. Nah I'm betting that none of these people will actually get together with a larg numbr of potentially armed people
FWIW
I have seen enough now, to have come to the conclusion that this whole FHAL thing is not going to happen. There won't be any $15 in the future for FHAL, CVSU, or any other iteration of this company. Unless it's a wicked reverse split.
Just IMO
Oh Great
Now the CEO of this suppsedly up and coming energy is claiming to be the victim of "shorting"!
Did they just sell 3 million shares or something? Raising money thought he equity markets when your share price is lower than a dollar is ALWAYS fools food for the people who know how to short and hedge stocks.
coupled with the CEO complaining of the short interest, this spells double trouble
I have NEVER seen a good company and GOOD CEO with great business skills and outlook legitimately complain about short selling.
the good ones say "short away, boys" or say nothing at all
Looks like I might get my .08 after all
just think, when I first stated that and called the chartists out for their "bottom calling" above .20 I was called a bashers
good news is that the CEO was asked when the filings come out and he said 2-3 weeks and it's been almost 2 now
I find it humorous that someone still actually believes in this company, management, and even more preposterous, that this "investment" will actually turn into something worthwhile.
People, Jim Dial still has not addressed the fact that he won't let you see the transfer agent's stat sheet.
There is NO GOOD REASON for this, and he's either lying about the 38 MM shares, or he doesn't know, nor does the TA, how many shares are out there.....jarvis might be printing them through some backdoor loophole.....dialer might be able to take the ignorance defense...."to the best of my knowlege all the shares that had been printed were 38MM- how was i supposed to know there were another 150MM out there?...i thought it was naked shorts!"
sorry strongus, make that 38 days!
thats still the speed of light compared to the main man at the controls of this shareholder ship
he's been marking the very last burp and fart of jim dial for almost 2 years (with annotated charts and lists and all that to boott, i'm sure) and still cannnot catch on
greedy you're to be commended
geeze greedy, you been here about 38 hours and figured out what BBB and them cannot for the last 2 yrs
you're a freaking genius
IMIO the "special shareholders meeting" will have the xact same outcome as the "special dividend" and the "special three offers for 20 times the current market price of grifco" and the "special jet motor"
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNADA
ain't gonna happen
IMO of course
Once the merger candidate is announced there may be another pop.
hardy har har
good one
merger candidate, ha ha I'll be laughing about that one for a while
Grifco International, Inc. Announces Special Meeting of Shareholders
When?
Where?
What's the agenda?
i simply cannot believe this is happening. I would not be surprised to see that this is the first attempt to pump the stock that acutally gapped it down!
Is there ANYONE AT ALL ANYWHERE WHO THINKS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY LEADING ANYWHERE AT ALL?????????????????
this is really sad
Andy
it's been five years and shareholders of Enron have not been compensated for outright fraud. Lies told on the SEC filings.
You think shareholders will be compensated because they believed a first time CEO in a pink stock?
You think the SEC will REALLY go after JIM DIAL?????
that's funny
Grifco International Announces Record Date for Spin-Off of Coil Tubing Technology
Thursday March 30, 9:00 am ET
HOUSTON, TX--(MARKET WIRE)--Mar 30, 2006 -- Grifco International, Inc. ("Grifco") (Other OTC:GFCI.PK - News) today announced May 1, 2006, as the record date for the previously announced spin-off wholly owned subsidiary Coil Tubing Technology, Inc. ("CTT"). Grifco shareholders will receive 1.89 shares of CTT for every one share held in Grifco as of the record date, up to 75 million shares. Upon completion of the spin-off dividend, CTT will have approximately 85 million shares issued and outstanding.
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and at the bottom:
Certain statements in this release, and other written or oral statements made by the Company, including the use of the words "expect," "anticipate," "estimate," "project," "forecast," "outlook," "target," "objective," "plan," "goal," "pursue," "on track," and similar expressions, are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause actual results, performance, or achievements of the company to be different from those expressed or implied. The Company assumes no obligation and does not intend to update these forward-looking statements. Among the important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated by such forward-looking statements include, without limitation: competitive and general economic conditions, adverse effects of litigation, the timely development and acceptance of our products and services, significant changes in the competitive environment, the failure to generate or the loss of significant numbers of customers, the loss of senior management or increased government regulation.
IMO the outstanding share count, and "implied share structure" were forward looking statements and are not held to the standards that, say, a 10Q would be held to.
That is why IMO Jim Dial will not put it DIRECCTLY INTO WRITING and will not allow the transfer agent to release it.
people, be real here,
why on earth would they release such a nebulous statement and somehow hold that THIS ALONE proves what the company is saying about the SOS?
WHY NOT JUST TELL US THE TRUTH OPENLY AND IN WRITING??
personally I think it was meant to say that they would release shares for CTBG "up to 75 million" shares of grifco outstanding, not CTBG outstanding.
I don't think dialer knows how many are printed, and somehow jarvis got the key to the cert printing room, but that's just MY OPINION
thnk about what you're saying
you hire a hit man for a retribution on a decision that was ultimately yours?
commite a felony rather than take your lumps and losses and lessons learned?
Sounds kind of pathetic- the warning signs have always been there and most have just chosen to ignore them rather than be wise and realize that when it sounds too good to be true it almist always is
2MM per month revenue per 50 jet motors and we can conitunally use 1000 of them and they increase each well production by 25% and no one's ever thought of it before
gaaaash
ask doesn't matter. I can ask 340,000 for my double wide but the bid is 14,500 that's where it will sell