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Nice. Looking at the others on that page it would be nice if vyst had similar share prices... well, except for #21... VYST is flying way higher.
And if VYST ever gets like #13 (one of my favorite numbers) than it really would be, wow.
With all the eyes just from Ihub (128,915 view in the past 24 hours) Yikes! No one can say VYST is boring anymore. Recently much more fun than watching moss grow on my feet...
And to add to that comment, the merger would allow Rotman's to use VYST accumulated NOL's for tax purposes, thus raising the percentage of profit for the company while using what VYST has not been able to use since inception... Mainly because VYST on it's own has never profit.
Totally agree. At least bad OR good.
The deal with the Rubicon stated March 2019 was the 'finished product' target date.
Of course, we all saw what happened at the University. That was when the CEO announced that they would proceed with a larger version of the Rubicon.
IF, i-f, if... any goodnews comes out... wow. If BAD news comes out, well, at least it's not that far to bottom-and-done.
this is an old memory. how fitting for the 'times'.
time is only an illusion.
blow on vyst, blow on.
Yes, but I must admit, the gruel is not too bad with tabasky sauce on it... Won't miss Phil though, Phil did not buy shares of VYST and he last bathed in 1979.
Seriously though, a few weeks ago I thought this stock was going to the very bottom of massive max dilution, r/s splits, and promises that lead to nowhere.
It all changed when the company announced the buyback, it is so nice to be wrong about something like that.
Now, back to gruel. I see in the line ahead of me that today is 'week old' bread day. (they let us eat all the bread we want!)
Yep, feel like a pup chasing his tail... but sure nice to see a bit of green for VYST today.
If this keeps up, you'll not only be able to visit Alaska, you'll be able to buy it... I think the original purchase price from the Russki's was $7.2 mil.
As for me, if I don't chicken out and sell before this stock really explodes, I'll have enough profit to purchase a really nice television from Costco. And if I wait, and IF what some are saying comes true, might be able to purchase some munchies to go along with the television.
Good trading to all.
Okee dokey then...
On Friday, the SEC will have to halt trading in VYST because the difference between the short sellers and the excitement of the those wishing to take a position in VYST will cause the price to surge out of control...
The last price on Friday, before the actions of the trading commission will be .72 with volume exceeding 400 million shares.
Of course, I might be off by a few cents...
How true!
Though the CFO did not lie to me from the other company, and I suspect Greg would not also, but it really did not matter what the other told me any more than it would matter what management of VYST would tell me. Sure, probably sound great and probably entice my greed to take a greater position but then that would not be good as I'm currently purchasing a $123,000.00 excavator and cannot risk more funds towards what I've already invested.
So, I'll just be lazy and relax; checking the stock prices everyday and leave the heavy lifting of company communication to management and you and others for finding out the truth...
Must say, the excitement about VYST is refreshing. Now, all the company needs is proof of advancing revenue shown in a near future SEC filings.Some more form 4 filings. And I really would think it refreshing for the company to conduct a CC. Those CC can't be that expensive, are they?
Ice fell asleep in front of a sunlamp... and melted. And that's what I want VYST to do... Melt the tape, and light up the profits.
We'll see though.
Of course I want this vyst to just explode up to some of those numbers some people have posted...
And, if I were not already so familiar (as you) with this company, I'd be buying, even at this current level.
Have you noticed how the 90-100% 'rah rah' posts are now being tempered by some 'boo, hiss, boo' posts? To me, that's a good sign of stability. Especially based on the news we all now know.
And, we all have to remember that worn out saying, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it," an observation by philosopher and writer George Santayana.
Nice to see you optimism.
That's a great idea SGW, but my track record with calling management has been dismal in the past. My main 'oops' was in a stock called, Soligenix.
Back in the day I once had oodles of money. I mean gobs of it. The market and logging treated me well but teeter totters also go down and never just up.
Anyway, got close to the CFO. He told me great things but no insider info. I bought a LOT of that stock, even was invited to a stock offering and was made part of an SEC filing...
Long story short. CFO quit, stock still trades, and if I might add, more boring than vyst until VYST did just as you explained. Well, except when one of the main insiders of Soligenix had a tantrum at an FDA meeting and had to be 'escorted' outside.
I admire the others calling and sharing the info regarding VYST. I'm starting to admire the current management of VYST and I will REALLY admire them if what they have discussed comes anywhere near true.
Management of any company that is open to talking to their shareholders via conference call, emails, and personal telephone calls, are excellent as long as no insider info is given that could either damage the management member OR shareholder.
Now, you gave me a great idea. For those currently talking to management... How about asking them for a conference call? Now THAT would really make me (and a lot of investors) very happy to hear and participate in...
Yes. With all the attention bearing down on VYST a conference call from VYST management would be FANTASTIC! So, light up Gregs phone!
(well, actually, the main reason I don't like calling is that after working all day I'm too damn lazy to do anything but relax)
Thanks for the kind words.
Nice to see consistency in the penny land.
People heard about vyst and loaded, others are profiting, a bit of 'news' with the buyback, people waiting for news, all good...
But, I wouldn't mind a bit of people bashing to try and drive the stock price down, or heck, even some naked shorting or shorting, or even a bit more of the conversion/dilution...
I say this because the first round made me a bit angry as there was no real news coming out from management other than the SEC filings and the last insider purchase.
Watched the stock price plummet. Watched a lot of people scoop up bags and bags of cheap shares.
So, with the pending news on the 'horizon'... heck yeah. I hope people panic, or get bored owning vyst, or anything to drop the price down to the trips again...
At the least it would spur the management of vyst to start the buyback of shares AND let me sell some aluminum cans to raise a bit of coin so to grab teeny tiny bags of vyst shares... you know, nothing huge... maybe just a million shares or so...
So, either way something like me stands a chance of profiting. Either by adding at a lower price or holding for a greater price.
Ain't the market just a grand game to play!
Yaaaawnnn... (Scratching and stretching, getting ready for a wonderful day unlike those freezing back where they worship global warming)
Anyway, been here for over five years. Seen it all unfold for vyst. Saw the insider buying, the trade show with UVFT (they now own it... Or, I mean, we own it)
Saw the boredom just in the posting arena here on this forum.
Saw the stock price plummet as the conversions unfolded enabling ALL the new shareholders to jump on at great sub-penny prices.
Saw new shareholders quickly sell at great profits.
Saw/see all the posting that first was strongly 'rah rah' and now true to form, swinging to both 'rah rah' and 'yuck, horrible'.
What a nice change lately, especially since I'm becoming more and more LESS disgruntled. (mainly because of the trading volume and that I'm regaining the lost coin in vyst)
Now, while others are freezing and making money or losing money investing, there is one thing that struck me in the noggin that another poster pointed out. That being, if Rodham merges with VYST all those wonderful losses VYST has accumulated over the many BORING years... (those last few years might as well have never existed for vyst)
Anyway, Rodhams get to offset their revenue and use the losses. GREAT!
Also, if one goes back on this board there is a post by an avatar called, Rotman. It is in the first 100 posts. Amazing coincidence.
Anyway, keep warm today and maybe vyst will close in the green.
Popcorn! Gotta have popcorn at the vyst movie. And clowns! Lots of clowns with flowery balloons made out of vyst latex. And if the movie is really good... Lots of vyst latex condoms!
Reading this board is more fun than it has been for... for... forever!
All this talk about buyback becoming no buyback becoming something else is all not revelant as the company put out that news, as such, it is real just as .03 is real and tomorrow whatever numbers come up are going to be real.
This is a fun movie! And I'm becoming less and less of a disgruntled vyst investor for over five years (thus most of my shares are so long term that if only a fraction of what some people are posting about vyst comes true, my tax burden will be great)
We now return to the movie. And if everything goes well there might even be a vyst sequel starring that guy in Aquaman.
Had enough of that, besides the natives get testy when poked and the polar bears get frisky... Or, is it the other way around? Anyway, Alaska is not the place to celebrate if vyst hits a home run for the investors.
Now, New Zealand or Patagonia or some of those private Greek Islands...
Finally nice to be in a stock that might explode upwards. But if not, there still are those polar bears to keep warm with at night.
Okay, okay... you 'brothers' and 'sisters' win...
After just wading through todays posts on this vyst board I think my new corgi pup will be buying next week.
Heck, maybe a fraction of what all the people are writing will come to fruition.
Now greed...Ah yes. Greed!
Gotta hand it to those that are advertising the products that vyst sells. Once I posted that if I ever made a profit in vyst that I was going to buy a mattress... maybe that will happen or maybe I'll just get greedy and say, "Ah, it will go higher than .09," and then if it does, "Ah, it will go higher than .30" Of course, not a bad thing to think about but after years of dealing with reality, probably not gonna happen and I'll regret not selling at .09, that is, if this stock price ever gets there.
And if it does go above .09 and ends up next year at $565.00 a share, than I'd be willing to eat crow... why? Because crow/raven are tasty to devour. In the meantime, actually starting to enjoy the vibe being put out with the possibility this company might actually amount to something...
And you can take that to the bank...sister or brother or whatever gender neutral is pc at the moment.
Such memories. That was one of the very first posts for this company and after five years, finally seeing some activity.
I usually post reality and not a bunch of hype and pump.
Nothing in the pennyland of otc is always what it seems and yes, the activity around vyst is huge at the moment. More posts in one day than the past five years combined.
Got a little over 348,000 shares of vyst. But I'm not one of those, "Geez, I should have bought 50million shares at .0008 Why? Because I'm broke. Listened to too much hype by the sharks talking about the 'other' companies.
Is there money for others to make investing here? Well, the way the pumping and hype is going...definitely. But I say, "Beware of the sharks looking to be your best buddy" or those who consider you 'brother' or 'sister'...
No, not stupid. I'd say wise.
After the share buyback news I did take a bit of heart at .012 small purchase and one back in Nov for .005 before the stock continued its freefall.
You do realize this stock was quickly heading to .0001? And how many other companys have followed suit? Enron, Kmart, Spongetech... an endless list of companies that I personally lost money on.
Yeah, so up a bit in vyst but after years of owning am I giggly and filled with 'rah rah'?
Absolutely not. Reason why. Too many cheerleaders saying vyst is going to the moon and why? Because they took a position, probably a large position and want...no DESIRE that others get excited over the hype and invest so THEY can sell at a profit and move on.
I'd be happy to see .09, heck I hope it goes to $35.00 a share or $100.00. Will it? No one knows but as for averaging down; nope, glad I'm actually seeing some activity in one of the most boring companies I've ever invested in.
Oh goody!
I'll take .09
but what if they are not? what if vyst does more conversions (they announced two coming up and have not made a decision about that...yet)
what about the shareholders of uvft? how many shares are they getting and based on what price? .0004? .10? 1.00?
how come the revenue has not increased for vyst since they've been officially selling product for two years now?
and if the price end up in the trips again before seeing a dime? should one buy more?
I say, buy shares with money you are willing to part with... forever.
No. I did not invest in vyst too early. I invested in vyst years ago based on the massive insider buying at that time plus an extremely low share count. It was something like 30 million shares out there compared to the 500 million today.
Years ago the sleep division was making money until the company sued the doctor selling it and discontinued the division.
Years ago, the company had the patents. I thought and still do think, those patents are important.
Over the years vyst chugged along. The insiders still purchased shares which was great and gave an investor such as myself a bit of hope in an otherwise hopeless situation.
Lien and other news came along. There was finally a deal with Rodham's. Amazon had product for sale... All sounded great UNTIL the sec filings showed a barely noticiable blip on revenue from latex sales... meaning my neighbor made more money selling firewood last year as a hobby than vyst sold matteress/pillow merchandise.
And then, more announcements. A new ceo, new location PLUS the takeover of UVFT which was a company mentioned a year earlier as the two companies had met at a trade show.
Now, here we are the last six months. 500 million shares which enabled the sharks to feast by either naked shorting, common trading, hype, intuition... whatever one wants to call it.
The stock price plummeted, then the last few trading days were wonderful, mainly due to the "talked to the ceo, omg what a nice man, he told me no r/s, a vyst mattress in every home and free candy!" along with the 250 million share buyback news. GREAT! My investment recovered a bit while others made great bank with lots and lots of other 'new' investors dreaming of no r/s, mattress, pillows, condoms, balloons, and yes, candy!
So no, I did not invest too early. I invested. Invested being the key word. For me, no profit and maybe there never will be as I'm not the flipping sort of playing the .001 daily game.
If it reaches .09 great, if it goes higher, fantastic. But this is penny land and OTC. And so the question remains, maybe I should have never invested in this company in the past... or now.
Invested years ago in VYST, thought the same... and look at the price... still only .03
Now if it gets above .09 maybe I'll be all googly eyed and in awe also.
However, not a bad bit of slight recovery, but still a LONG way to go.
Hi Bill. Interesting the difference between belief and reasons.
I'm invested very heavy in DNRG. I own 12,045,624 shares @ a total cost of $23,729.88 because I had/hold a belief this company may MAY m-a-y still amount to something I like called, profit.
Reasons why?
1. Dr. Islam
2. The way the CEO communicated in the past though a bit disappointed by the lack of commincation from the CEO this past year+.
3. The last news regarding the construction of the Rubicon AND financing by two companies outside of DNRG
My investment in DNRG may or may not be financially successful but at least I follow my convictions and back them with hard earned coin. This alone is probably my main reason for investing in DNRG. Convictions based on fuel cell technology and also it may seem a bit strange, I enjoy that the CEO appears to have a good connection on a personal level to Africa and is trying to get into that market with not only fuel cells but other energy technology.
Good luck (or if one does not believe in luck, I don't as luck is a myth but sounds nice in modern society) Good investing then, and I hope you do well in your investments. Oh, and if I were to give advice about taking a position in DNRG at this moment for those not already invested? My answer would be: There are better companies out there at the moment to risk coin on with better chances of return on investment.
When VYST started getting all the 'excitement' after investors loaded up with all the company conversion dilution, it made me angry but now that the stock price is getting back to what I've been used too... for years... I say go for it.
Pump this stock with news, hype, euphoria... whatever works to keep people buying shares so I can make profit and exit like those already exiting.
Greed is wonderful to watch in action. People buying shares in vyst after seeing the huge volume/price increases. For those who have made great bank these past few days... WELL DONE!
There are statements of the stock price going to all sorts of levels ranging from .04 to $7.00. What fun!
Everyone has their own particular style of investing with the main objective of profit. If I had purchased this stock at the rock bottom price this traded, I'd have sold at least half and let the other half ride... Or, sell half and buy the company back as it dips. Perfect stock at the moment for the battle between greed and will power.
For me, I've stated my exit at .09. And then the greed inside WANTS to believe all the hype but logic then kicks in. 1. Why did the company do all those conversion deals and then announce they'd do a buyback? 2. The company announced two more conversion events and yet still do a buyback? 3. Why has the company NOT announced how many shares the stockholders of UVFT are going to get? (restriction or not)
I'm not the best of traders, that's for sure, but over the years have had some good runs and some horrible losses but overall, greed sure is a powerful feeling.
Have fun investors. Make lots and lots of money. And no matter what, for vyst it will be interesting to see what happens during the next 12 months.
Sounds just peachy... though, how is this conversation not deemed insider info being released to the public (you) instead of the normal news outlets and SEC filings?
If what you posted comes to reality as being true then how do I as an investor know that you did not talk with the CEO months ago and learned about the dilution and price drop of the stock during the past few months? Thus the potential that you profited by talks with the CEO in the past? And now that you're loaded with VYST shares (an assumption on my part) now stand to PROFIT greatly after such a talk with the CEO?
Fair question as lately all the posts seem so rosy and wonderful yet where were you all when the stock price was tanking?
Hope you're correct so I can get my .09 but also hope all matters concerning VYST and the news are on the up-and-up...Legal so to speak.
Good. That means I can attain my .09 target and exit. Thanks for the announcement.
Okay.
Finally arrived at a hypothesis to explain the past twelve months of VYST.
I've posted here on the vyst forum for years. In most of the posts I let it be known that this company is BORING. Boring SEC filings. Boring revenues. Boring progress. Boring. Boring. Boring.
Sure, insiders bought a lot and no real traction in stock price... Reason? BORING.
Management? Boring.
Product? Boring.
Boring. Boring. Boring...
Did I mention, boring?
Now, how do penny land stocks become less boring? How do they attract attention? How do they get investors?
First, they sacked Doyle, the most boring CEO ever since the beginning of CEO's (Doyle NEVER replied to investor queries... I know, I tried. Apparently others here have had better communication with the new management, at least from what I've read)
Next, they did deals allowing conversions and dilution of stock... Why? Because they knew Ihub and other pennyland havens of 'information' would be the perfect breeding ground of attracting investors.
Must say, my theory seems decent. I mean just look. A vyst message board FILLED with lots and lots of stuff. A volume due to all the shares floating around out there (compared to what was out there two years ago) more shares, more hype, more volume, more price drop/rise, more everything geared for gaining attention to a penny land stock called, VYST.
So, here we are today. Penny land investors. Some already making good bank, others hoping to, others waiting for the price to drop, others waiting for the price to rise. Everyone waiting for more 'news' so the drama can continue.
In the end, Ihub wins, some investors win, some investors lose, and the company that has a good patent on allergy free latex gets more exposure to the 'world' and heck, some guys out there (and gals) will be able to use some really great company latex condoms! (gives a whole new meaning to, "investors getting screwed")
I want .09 so I can get my investment back. More would be better but I'm willing to let others make bank on anything higher than that.
Good point to bring up the patented latex. That is what attracted me to this company years ago when they were talking about a mattress deal to supply a hospital in Asia. Deal never went through.
Throughout the years the company has touted the virtues of their allergy free latex with very little success.
Only in the past couple of years have the mattress toppings, pillows, etc been available and the revenue gained from such sales is TRULY dismal.
Hard to compete against the likes of Tempur Pedic and other established mattress companies dealing with stinky latex.
Maybe the new CEO has a plan where the company will finally realize some revenues. Maybe they should sell the latex division and just sell bean bags and ride the wave with marijuana sales.
I'm surprised the latex gloves they had made for the medical industry never gained traction. Curious to know why.
What I really enjoy about your post and others who post such rosy pictures regarding publicly traded companies... and that is, it really makes for great reading!
I remember a story that is the perfect metaphor regarding the past twelve months of VYST.
In the story, people are starving in a country under the thumb of Communism. For example: North Korea. The leaders there tell the starving masses that everything is great! That they are not hungry, rather they are well fed.
I DO believe dollars are coming...once the management conduct their authorized r/s. Maybe the split will be this year, or next, or never.
It would be a great story if someone were to state how VYST could get to dollarland WITHOUT a r/s or meaningful revenue.I suppose it's possible but just curious to see if anyone can point out what I must be missing.
I just had to chuckle when reading "It's the ones who hold long that will changer their lives forever..."
How true. I've owned shares in VYST for years and after watching all the dilution and price of the stock drop, I'm now a much more experienced investor plus seeing the history of VYST leading to today... well, you could say my life was changed.
That's a great idea.
After owning DNRG for so long I'm tempted to get loaded!
You raise a point about the SEC4 filings. Insiders cannot purchase stock in their company within a certain amount of time pending a news event. That event could be bad such as bankruptcy (thus they cannot sell knowing such news) or news that is good that could cause the price to rise (thus they cannot buy knowing such news)
So fun to see the verbage swing between "Buy, going to the moon!" and "Be careful, this is going no where."
For me, holding for .09 to get my long term investment money back.
Highly doubtful the stock price will get anywhere near $1.00 unless there is a r/s or news that the company latex products cure cancer or act better than viagra...
Getting uplisted is the 'dream' of many many many penny land stocks. Some actually succeed, most fail.
It boils down to simple business. If a business generates revenue it attracts investors which in turn create demand for the shares of company stock.
Now, it SEEMS that vyst is trying to establish a profitable business model and has used dilution in this process, a double-edged sword.
Easy to see the history here on vyst and other companies of similar situation.
Bottom line: The company may or may not do a r/s but if more than a billion shares are eventually floating around out there than the possibility definitely increases.
The last news release was needed. Sorta like an investor bandaid. Only positive 'real' news and information pertaining to vyst will get this stock moving and of course, REVENUE!
Thank goodness for pizza.
One thing about owning VYST for years was the education involved.
Years ago a lady had a blog. I forget the name but it was a good bit of writing about VYST.
At that time, very few shares floating around, tons of insider buying. Great news about the latex. Thus the price went up. People were happy. And then, the volume shut off, the blogging ceased with the exception of a few lost souls (me and my multiple personalities. it's great being nuts!)
Any way, more insider buying, a few small runs on increased volume and then the company switched gears. They signed contracts with Rodham and others. Did some testing on medical gloves and a few individual items for other companies. Even put out a video showing a clear balloon made out of their latex.
And then, Doyle stepped down as CEO and there was a lot more news concerning Rodham. The stock price remained stagnant and then, one day, 500,000 shares traded as the price dipped 'a little' and the next day, another 500,000 shares... And in November the price really tanked while volume increased. A sure sign of dilution/conversion.
Of course with the daily volume increasing and the price dropping, the blogging/chatter increased.
The stock price dropped and dropped while the volume/chatter increased.
Soon, there was constant talk of how 'great' VYST is for an investor. Some said, 'the best they've ever seen'. I was and still to a degree, a disgruntled long-term investor. However, news came out that zoomed the price up and many people made great bank. I even bought some more.
Now, yesterday and today, the price is slowly starting to drop again while NOW the chatter is both 'pump' and ' doom'. To conflicting statements made by those who want the price to drop so they can reload while those that took entry at .01 of course want it to go to at least .02 for that great %100 profit.
Yep, for me, very educational. And for me, if it ever gets to .09 presplit I'm out and onto the next bit of education.
It is nice though to finally see the company come out with news and what I consider 'honesty' based on the wording of the release.
Good luck to those invested and those wanting to invest in vyst. You'll need it.
How true. Shocking actually. I'm glad the company finally gave some kind of news yesterday.
Thankfully I'm not a lawyer but in my opinion IF GERS prevails, that alone would be a huge catalyst for the company and stock price, even if the moneys were not released IF there was an appeal.
We all watched what happened to GERS after the last round of legal decisions. It was not pretty. BUT, the US Patent office still sided with GERS and now here we are...
It will be nice to just get closure with GERS one way or the other.
In my opinion you took the correct action. Until the news from the company today, the past few months of investing in vyst were total gamble.
You could have bought the stock at a much lower price and lost just as you could lose after buying today, but with the news, that prospect is a bit dimmer.
Good adventures on your investment.
What no one has discussed, including management, is how many shares are the ex shareholders of UVFT getting in the deal.
Also, in today's news there is talk of 250million share buyback but at what price range? I ask this because there is a trick many use called,diversion. One bit of news happens/occurs (stock price plummets due to dilution) so to offset there is news of a 250million share buyback.
It was good to read the honesty of the upcoming two conversion dates. No set course but at least the investor knows they are coming.
Also coming, are news of acquisitions and such... Now this is where I answer the question.
IF i-f if the share price of vyst continues back to it's normal of .03-.05 then is it not plausible that those prices could be used as the various stock being used as payment for company(ies)???
Example: VYST purchases a banana rendering plant for $1mil with company stock/preferred stock as payment. We already know that 500 million shares are out there with the potential of twice that amount that can be used for whatever purposes the company deems beneficial.
So, if 500 million more shares are issued, I'm pretty sure the stock price will not soar much above the normal of .03 - .05
Then, after all the dust/acquisitions are over, the company could do the r/s, the buyback, etc... but I'm thinking that after this year is over the company will provide better and more accurate rev forecasts, and then announce the traditional "We are going to uplist after doing a r/s of..."
Of course, I could be wrong and it would not bother me if VYST 'went to the moon' with the stock price going to .50 or higher.
We'll see though.
Thanks but after owning this for years and watching loss after loss, it is easy to be highly doubtful.
Still not out of the woods but with all the recent exposure and buying/selling activity, it at least gives vyst some 'life'.
The next few SEC filings will truly be telling of the course of this company.
Now it remains to see if some investors are willing to hold for more than the .001 - .0001 changes.
Another well written and informative post as usual. Thanks for posting.
This is a new year with 12 months, and in some of these upcoming months there will be more news and progress on the legal front.
Maybe one of these coming months the news will really rock the boat for all those involved to include investors in GERS.