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The exit plan for management is once the gig is up, and everyone realizes this isn't what is was supposed to be, it will be driven down to .0002
Once management cant sell anymore shares under the PAOG tag, they will abandon the company, reverse split the shares, obtain a new ticker through FINRA, and get new back story, and start over.
The board keeps telling me how cheap it is to open new office space, heck, the real estate companies practically make it move in ready. All PAOG has to do is move in some rented office furniture, and PRESTO! Mirage completed!
Find the correlation between these companies
Formerly=New Wave Holdings, Inc. until 6-2017
Formerly=Advanced Content Services, Inc. until 12-2014
Formerly=International Minerals Mining Group, Inc. until 2-2008
Formerly=Massive G Media Corp. until 6-07
Formerly=RHNMedia until 3-07
Formerly=Real Hip Hop Matrix Corp. until 1-07
Formerly=Concorde Resources Corp. until 11-06
Formerly=VoIPLabs Holdings, Inc. until 10-05
Formerly=Ontus Telecommunications Corp. until 4-05
Formerly=Elite Field Service, Inc. until 9-04
From a oil co. to a telecommunications co. to a hip hop co. to a mining group (lmao) to a content services co. to a mj co?!?!?!?!
If you can't figure that out Linda, I don't know what to tell you...
PAOG = TRASH
Management is mad at us because we the shareholders called the open clinics and made appointments and never showed up! Duh!
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
I laughed pretty hard at that one when you posted it!!!
Management ignores you because they are tired of answering questions if they are a real company, when they're not.
PAOG = TRASH
RSII NWAV PAOG they are all scams!
RSII will equate to nothing but a share selling scheme...
PAOG will equate to nothing but a share selling scheme as well...
I have all the time in the world for the PR that says PAOG sold another 100 MILLION shares for another 290K
And I will wait for the board to tell me what a great thing this is, and its not dilution!
LMAO
PAOG = TRASH
PAOG History
Formerly=New Wave Holdings, Inc. until 6-2017
Formerly=Advanced Content Services, Inc. until 12-2014
Formerly=International Minerals Mining Group, Inc. until 2-2008
Formerly=Massive G Media Corp. until 6-07
Formerly=RHNMedia until 3-07
Formerly=Real Hip Hop Matrix Corp. until 1-07
Formerly=Concorde Resources Corp. until 11-06
Formerly=VoIPLabs Holdings, Inc. until 10-05
Formerly=Ontus Telecommunications Corp. until 4-05
Formerly=Elite Field Service, Inc. until 9-04
Security Notes of PAOG
Capital Change=shs increased by 3 for 1 split. Effective date=9-10-04
Capital Change=shs increased by 3 for 1 split. Effective date=11-8-04
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 4.5 split. Effective date=6-8-06
Capital Change=shs decreased by a 1 for 12 split. Pay date=11/03/2006.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 545 split. Pay date=8-31-07.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 1000 split Pay date=12/19/2007.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 200 split. Pay date=12/08/2014.
Well Louie, thanks for that info...
Yet, not sure how it applies here...PAOG attached itself to a series of shell companies with a history of reverse mergers from crooks for the past 13 years.
If PAOG's idea of saving a few bucks to carry the burden of being associated with crooks is a good business decision, then, Houston, we have a problem....
And spare me the argument that they are no longer affiliated with those said crooks...
If PAOG was opened by a pool of investors, who formed a new company to bring knowledge and help to a community of people struggling with addiction, and how to manage mj to better their lives, then I'm on board, full steam ahead...and I would gladly invest knowing that they took on extra debt to start this grand company from scratch.
But that's not what see here. We see a bread crumb trail leading back to foul play, billions of shares produced and reverse splits over a span of 13 years...and millions of dollars syphoned from good people...
PAOG is helping people alright...helping them lighten their bank accounts, helping them not having to deal with the burden of having that much money in their brokerage accounts...
PAOG = TRASH
People who bought Elite Field Service stock in 2004, now own PAOG 13 years later if they never sold it.
If you had bought $1000 worth of Elite Field Service back then, your worth of PAOG would be less than .10 cents...
That is a FACT. You cant dispute that. You cant tell me that Robert Weber blah blah blah...new company blah blah blah
I understand where you are coming from Bull...
Robert Weber didn't need the NWAV shell! The PAO clinics could have started fresh, with no affiliations to any shady past dealings... but they didn't
They could have issued stock fresh, not carried the 680 millions shares accrued from the NWAV shell...but they didn't.
How do you know that none of the past ticker symbols didn't have a plan like PAOG??? Those companies didn't sell 100 of millions of shares with nothing to get investors excited, so I doubt your correct on that front.
And to your example, all the stock you owned when the new company bought your chaptered 11 company, is worth NOTHING, you lost everything. Now imagine that happening 10 times in a row for the last 13 years, while you worked for the same company, and every time you bought stock in the company that took you over, you lost everything. Would you buy stock in the new guy who came in and said, hey, "we're going to turn your company into something completely different, now buy OUR stock!!?!?!?!?! This time its for REAL!!
Highly doubt it...
But something tells me your going to come back and say this is different this time....
LMAO
It is very much the same company. In fact, it is THE EXACT SAME COMPANY
People who bought Elite Field Service stock in 2004, now own PAOG 13 years later if they never sold it.
THE EXACT SAME COMPANY
PAOG = TRASH
Here is more DD on PAOG
Security Notes of PAOG for the last 13 years.
Capital Change=shs increased by 3 for 1 split. Effective date=9-10-04
Capital Change=shs increased by 3 for 1 split. Effective date=11-8-04
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 4.5 split. Effective date=6-8-06
Capital Change=shs decreased by a 1 for 12 split. Pay date=11/03/2006.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 545 split. Pay date=8-31-07.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 1000 split Pay date=12/19/2007.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 200 split. Pay date=12/08/2014.
A history of the trail of destruction of people's money over the last 13 years
So here is my thought...
If you go through any of the tickers in that list for the last 13 years. And I had told someone that that company was a scam, lets take International Minerals Mining Group for instance. The message board for IMMG would have told me I was crazy for thinking that, and that I was spreading false information, and who do I think I am etc...(same as I get here)
Yet here we are 10 years later and IMMG doesn't exist, and all the shareholders were completed wiped out after reverse split after reverse split, and the hard earned money they invested is now worth a fraction of what it was 10 years ago.
And this happened, not once, not twice, but TEN TIMES!
So here we sit again with PAOG in the lime light, on the ELEVENTH TIME, and you're telling me that its the real thing THIS time?
And I am just supposed to believe that because they have a couple of office spaces that this is a legit company now! This time!? The other ten times were what, just practice??? Failed businesses?? What?
Its part of the machine that keeps pumping out hundreds of millions of shares, different story line, same shell game.
I just know what shell the marble is under...
People of this Board...
PAOG is a scam. It was created from a myriad of scam shell companies over the past years.
Before you put your hard earned money into thinking this is a real company,
This is the list of scam shell companies that came before PAOG
Company PAOG History
Formerly=New Wave Holdings, Inc. until 6-2017
Formerly=Advanced Content Services, Inc. until 12-2014
Formerly=International Minerals Mining Group, Inc. until 2-2008
Formerly=Massive G Media Corp. until 6-07
Formerly=RHN Media until 3-07
Formerly=Real Hip Hop Matrix Corp. until 1-07
Formerly=Concorde Resources Corp. until 11-06
Formerly=VoIPLabs Holdings, Inc. until 10-05
Formerly=Ontus Telecommunications Corp. until 4-05
Formerly=Elite Field Service, Inc. until 9-04
Only a matter of time that PAOG is on that list.
Not really flawed...everything you said perfectly describes how a penny stock trades...
I'll try it again because I don't think you read my post...
If all that you said is really what's happening here, "The real clinics? The real patients? Or the real net profits? The new clinics opening soon? Or the additional expansion efforts?"
Do you honestly think that this would keep trading like a penny stock??
People would be coming in from everywhere to buy this. Investors would be gobbling up shares like crazy! It would be OWCP all over again, but it wouldn't be a sham like OWCP.
Why? Because ITS REAL!!! PAOG IS REAL!!!
But that's not what we see here. We see zero interest, investors waiting for the next PR to dump what they bought etc etc....
My question is, why, if this is a real company, is it trading like a penny stock, behaving like a penny stock , and priced like a penny stock, IF its the real thing?!?!?
If all that were true, "The real clinics? The real patients? Or the real net profits? The new clinics opening soon? Or the additional expansion efforts? "
Do you honestly think that NO ONE would be interested in buying this stock??
There wouldn't be a chance in hell that any MM could keep this under .10
But that's not what we see here is it...
We see PAOG trading exactly like an OTC penny trades...
See... when you break the mold, and have a real company come out of the pinks, like a PLUG POWER, it behaves like a real stock. And real investors come in with big dollars. And the pps stabilizes, and performs as it should...
But alas, we sit, hovering around a penny, people calling the company yelling, 'why don't you give us an update'. People emailing the IR dept saying, 'why isn't the stock price higher."
Its laughable to think this is real...
And if I am wrong, you can all drive by my house in your new LAMBOS
and rub it my face, and I will gladly eat crow...
Unfortunately for you, I don't think it will ever come to that...
THE COMPANY PAOG HAS NO PLANS OR INTENTIONS TO UPLIST...
ANY TALK OF A GOAL TO UPLIST IS FALSE.
Unless the company changes its position and lets the bag...er, I mean shareholders, know, IT IS FACT THAT PAOG HAS ZERO INTENTIONS OF UPLISTING
PAOG= TRASH
Per Adam via Benchmarks post
".....Hi again Thomas and sorry i missed this one. The company has not made any announcements about the possibility of 'uplisting' "
Please don't post false information about PAOG
We have the words from the horse's mouth.
No need to talk to RSII
Thanks
PAOG = TRASH
4 Things PAOG has to do before up listing
1) Make available all authorized shares and get another 500K
2) Reverse split
3) Authorize another 1 Billion shares
4) Change ticker
You don't have to lock up your PAOG shares...NOBODY WANTS THEM!!
What you do have to worry about is the of millions of shares that will be diluting your precious locked up PAOG shares!
You think that 290K PAOG got for the 100 million shares back in March is still there in their bank account????
lmao!
PAOG = TRASH
"makes you wonder doesn't it."
... it doesn't make me wonder...
What makes me wonder is what the CEO pays himself...and where that money is coming from
What makes me wonder is where all the money to open these new clinics is coming from...
What makes me wonder is when that 290k is spent (and I'll bet it is)
is where is the money going to come from to continue that hefty salary of his and his cronies....
But lets not worry about that because that's not important, lets worry about why this cant hold .012....
Sad priorities...
paog = SCAM
How far do you think 290k goes into getting leases into new clinics, new doctors salaries, staff to handle all the canceled appointments by shareholders (lmao)
Lets not forget what the CEO pays himself
Lets not forget what the CFO pays himself
And what are those numbers???
Oh that's right, you don't know...no one knows because they don't have to tell you because PAOG is NOT A FULLY REPORTING COMPANY!
PAOG = SCAM
Every post you post is proof that PAOG is being pumped....
And poorly at that...
More clinics = more debt more debt = more shares
more shares = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = PAOG
Sad when you think of it...
"it hasn't run to multi-pennies since it became a REVENUE PRODUCING PROFITABLE company!"
You say that like its a compliment to PAOG, yet its an insult that a net profitable company cant hold .02?!?!
I know I know, its being kept down because they are quietly accumulating...
I know I know, people want in at a lower price...
I know I know, no one knows about this undiscovered diamond...
All we know is that PAOG = garbage
More debt = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = paog
Where is all the money coming from to open up all these new clinics, to pay for all these trips to scout different states to open new clinics, to pay all these doctors, staff, ceo salaries, cfo salaries, accountant salaries...
There is so much debt being accumulated, and its not even listed as to what is what...why? oh that's right. PAOG is NOT a fully reporting company.
MORE CLINICS = MORE DEBT
PAOG doesn't need money...they have a money tree in the back of the Sandusky clinic. They just go pluck some off the branches whenever they want to open a new clinic...
Because we know for sure from previous posts that its very inexpensive to open a clinic!! LMAO
Huge dilution underway to sell the illusion that these 'clinics' are open and making money.
Record revenues this quarter??? lmao No guarantees
Sure smells like roses around here....
more clinics = more debt
more debt = more shares
more shares = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = PAOG
Thank you for the good laugh!!
It was the shareholders fault! LMAO
Hey everybody! Guess what? No record revenues for the next quarter, guaranteed! You shareholders just screwed that up!
Ive been preaching the whole time that their past affiliations with the crooks who ran those previous companies would be a problem. Guess that caught up faster than anyone would have expected!
Never in the history of the otc has a company ever blamed its own shareholders for tanking profits!!!
PAOG = SCAM
I wasn't 100% sure, but now I am!
Here is the problem. Now you have approximately 200 million shares being held by stockholders that see this is going relatively no where in the future, and are waiting for an exit point, any exit point that makes them a profit, or even a break even point (knowing now they could have gotten a lower cost basis).
You have an entire 200 million stockholders waiting for a PR, practically begging for a PR, just so they can sell on some news and get some momentum running. Thereby crushing any chance for a momentum run, due to the exodus of selling that will happen on a PR of, lets say another net profitable quarter.
We saw the results of a PR that included two new clinics opening, and a drifting downward, continuing the trend that there isn't a lot of interest in this stock.
Any good news will be met by a flurry of selling that will stunt any good pps movement, keeping this in the .009-.013 range for the foreseeable future.
PAOG = SCAM
But you will not buy PAOG over .01 again
Which means that you don't think that this is worth a penny a share.
The rest of the stock market shares you sentiment. No one really thinks this is worth anything over .01
Just wait until the real dilution starts.
More clinics = more debt
more debt = more shares
more shares = less value
less value = stinky
stinky = paog
But I just read another post that stated,
"Have posted increase revenues quarter over quarter"
So which is it...first quarter? Or multiple quarters?
How could a brand new company have increased revenues quarter over quarter????????
Paog = scam
PAOG is not a brand new company...PAOG = NWAV = ASCI = ITMM = MASS = RHN = REAL = CONC = VOLP = ONTS = ELIT
Its all the same company, different names, same scam!
Of course they will never upgrade to the OCTQB
That costs MONEY! That quick 290K they made by selling 100 million shares to detriment of the share holders isn't about to go to an upgrade, it's going to be spent on that new house Weber just bought!
GO PAOG! (hey PAOG where you going? PAOG replies, "I'm going to the bank with this money I just stole from you stockholders!)
PAOG = NWAV = ASCI = ITMM = MASS = RHN = REAL = CONC = VOLP = ONTS = ELIT
Its all the same company, different names, same scam!
People here seem to think that one clinic can do 300k per quarter.
What does it take to do that? How many people do they need to see? And how many mmj cards do they have to issue? Remember, not everyone who PAOG interviews gets a mmj card. Actually, its about half of people who interview will get denied according to a friend in AZ of mine who does the interviews.
$300,000/ 4 quarters = 75,000 per month
75,000 per month / 4 weeks = 18,750 per week
18,750 per week / 300 per patient = 62.5 patients a week
PAOG is only open 30 hours a week. Each interview takes on average 1 hour.
You would need 4 doctors per clinic, at a rate of issuing 50% of patients. They see would need to see 120 people a week. And that's assuming that every available time slot is filled with an appointment! We already know that people can go to various other avenues to get an mmj card, so there is no reason they HAVE to go to PAOG.
Its an unrealistic number, so I wish people here would stop projecting it. I'm all for fairness, but to keep saying 300k per quarter like a broken record is just pumping at that point.
There isn't enough time in the day to do 300k per quarter.
So lets bring in the alternative discipline revenue that people seem to think is going to happen.
Where do we see any massage therapy, chiropractic, nutritional guidance, acupuncture capability? We don't.
I asked the board for a breakdown of PAOGs revenue break down in their latest Q report, and no one answered because it doesn't exist. I couldn't find it.
So 1 person in a newspaper article proves that all this is possible???
I didn't think so....
Then the next logical question is, why did PAOG have to take over a dirty shell?
Why not start a reputable company from the ground up?? With no links to any shady dealings in the past. They could have started this business with no connection to any of the past 10 companies linked to this ticker...
..but they didn't...doesn't that bother you just a bit? Does the critical thinker inside you go, "umm wait a second, he's got a point?!" Doesn't a flag go up?
If you answer no, then I can't help you...My line of thinking is not nonsense. In fact, its common sense to ask these questions.
And to give you a more accurate metaphor to prove a point...
If the "owners" of whorehouses of old opened a massage therapy business, I would bet my bottom dollar that there would be some shady dealings going on behind the curtains of those massage rooms!
PAOG = scam
You can lead a horse to water....
So all the people who were screwed over from these people for the last 13 years, should just say...Oh, THIS ONE IS FOR REAL! lmao
PAOG will dilute, reverse split, dilute, until it gets old and people figure out whats going on....
Then they will rename the company, obtain a different business, go through FINRA to make it legit...and start over
Good luck with your PAOG shares...I have all the confidence that this company will change the world for the better, and in 3 years, will be over a dollar with 30 clinics in 8 different states...
Call me when that happens and rub it in my face...
PAOG = SCAM
Or, we can take this approach SooS
If a group of people screw you over 10 times, by starting companies, then diluting the heck out of the shareholders, then reverse splitting, then name changing through FINRA... how many times are you going to say, THIS IS FOR REAL THIS TIME????
LMAO apparently its going to take you 11 times!!
PAOG = SCAM SHELL
Not sure how you don't understand its not a shell
what don't you understand about-
Company History of PAOG
Formerly=New Wave Holdings, Inc. until 6-2017
Formerly=Advanced Content Services, Inc. until 12-2014
Formerly=International Minerals Mining Group, Inc. until 2-2008
Formerly=Massive G Media Corp. until 6-07
Formerly=RHNMedia until 3-07
Formerly=Real Hip Hop Matrix Corp. until 1-07
Formerly=Concorde Resources Corp. until 11-06
Formerly=VoIPLabs Holdings, Inc. until 10-05
Formerly=Ontus Telecommunications Corp. until 4-05
Formerly=Elite Field Service, Inc. until 9-04
If I had called any of these companies shells before you saw this list for the last 13 YEARS, would you have said, I don't know why you think these are shells?????
Only a matter of time before PAOG reverse splits again, and renames the company again, and starts a new business again
Wash rinse repeat....
PAOG = scam
You are right, it is up to date...
Company History of PAOG
Formerly=New Wave Holdings, Inc. until 6-2017
Formerly=Advanced Content Services, Inc. until 12-2014
Formerly=International Minerals Mining Group, Inc. until 2-2008
Formerly=Massive G Media Corp. until 6-07
Formerly=RHNMedia until 3-07
Formerly=Real Hip Hop Matrix Corp. until 1-07
Formerly=Concorde Resources Corp. until 11-06
Formerly=VoIPLabs Holdings, Inc. until 10-05
Formerly=Ontus Telecommunications Corp. until 4-05
Formerly=Elite Field Service, Inc. until 9-04
Security Notes of PAOG
Capital Change=shs increased by 3 for 1 split. Effective date=9-10-04
Capital Change=shs increased by 3 for 1 split. Effective date=11-8-04
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 4.5 split. Effective date=6-8-06
Capital Change=shs decreased by a 1 for 12 split. Pay date=11/03/2006.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 545 split. Pay date=8-31-07.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 1000 split Pay date=12/19/2007.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 200 split. Pay date=12/08/2014.
Oh Fundamentals DO determine the worth of PAOG??
I'm sorry I was wrong...
In that case PAOG is worth .0114 a share per the fundamentals.
New clinics opening, blow out quarterly results, best otc stock ever to exist the history of the otc!
Worth .0114
Thanks for helping me clear that up.
Share price determines the worth of PAOG, not tidbits from a fluff Press Release
And right now, no one thinks this is worth over a penny.
So keep posting tidbits, they mean nothing!
Man up and buy this garbage at .01
Oh wait, that's right...you're not buying at the ask.
tick tock till .003 PAOG
Nobody HAS to take PAOG down to .005
It will go there by itself. I have nothing to do with the share price. This message board has nothing to do with the share price.
Investors don't want this stock, so people holding will start to sell at a lower price than they originally wanted, and the free market will do its job and the share price will gradually lower, gathering steam as it goes...
Funny that you think there is an ulterior motive here...
I am just watching what the market does everyday, goes up goes down
PAOG = trips
trips = stinky
stinky = paog