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Red Angus, thank you so much for your infinite wisdom, we will have to keep an eye beginning today.GLTA
JJ, thank you. for my own understanding google will be able to stop paying whenever they develop a "Work Around", but they will have to prove this in a court of law, NO?, and only with an appeal we will be able to see a different Judge. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, by the way I did not get a phone call either. Everyone have a wonderful day and things are going to go the right way for all of US. GO VRNG. GLTA
JJ, thank you to you also. please read my posting to "RED" and help out with your thoughts. Thank you. GLTA
Red Angus, thank you for paying us a visit. My question today is a simple one, what does the "Work Around" has to do with this litigation. Google has been found guilty of infringement, Google had a chance to cross exam Dr. Becker, why let them call him back at this stage of the trial?, I, do not understand hos HJJ has handled this trial. I do not want to think that an Honorable Judge be playing games with how he is going to look on his last case before retirement. Can VRNG, at this stage ask for the the Judge to be replaced or at least to bring another Judge to look into this matter?, I am long, but concerned, I have quite an investment in VRNG. Can you shed some light into this concern, not only mine but quite a few other investors. Thank you "RED". GLTA
Tom4, I am not a very religious person, but I believe in God and you can be sure that God did not have anything to do with what happened in Boston or Texas, and if you would like to damn someone this morning there are a lot of persons that we individually can damn, specially the guy who does not have the cojones to stand up to Google.
JJ, who supervises HJJ decisions? a supreme court? Is Judge SCOLA watching this go down?
JJ, Red Angus, what do you make of HJJ, Order?
JJ, Red Angus, thank you both for helping out and bringing all into prospective. Do the attorneys for VRNG are aware of the motion under FRCP 11(b). I, for one am ready to bear the consequences, and what would they be? will we be in the hands of HJJ?, is it like jumping from the frying pan into the FIRE?
JJ, thank you, so it is up to the email that were exchanged, correct? and the interpretation of HJJ.
JJ, thank you for all your help. My question is when they are in a telephone conference does someone makes a recording of the conversation?, It would clear all this he said she said business, correct?
JJ, Red Angus, Keith, Tobinator, all on the board, if there is no response from Google by 08:00 today what happens?
JJ, Tom4, Red Angus, and all. I am long, and believe you me long into my pocket. I have a strong feeling that HJJ will read in between the lines and see clearly that Google is trying to pull a rabbit out of the hat but the problem is there are no more rabbits left in the hat and HJJ is not presiding in a Circus he is presiding in a Court of Law and the truth will reign over lies. A lot of us have put up our monies and some of us our life saving on the line, we are not large investor such as Mark Cuban and other investment firms. I am sure that HJJ will do the right call, and see the truth in of all the emails. Good luck to all who are long, I know that good will triumph over evil. GLTA
Keith, my prayers to all of residents of Boston, to the families that lost a loved one and the ones that are fighting to stay alive, to the Doctors and Nurses who dedicate their lives to help us at times like this. Let's all pray for all of them but mainly lets pray for our country and for someone to lead us again. A little "water boarding" goes a long way. God protect all of the injured and bring them back to good health and their families, Amen.
xlt leader, thank you for the link to the article from DLA PIPER. Have a great day.
Red, and all participants, please, where can I download the 25 page article from?, thanking all in advance. GLTA
Red Angus, thank you for your answer to my posting. It is always detailed and simple approach, Than you, lets hope that HJJ will be a fair person and come down with the right judgement. The jury found Google guilty, I believe the monetizing of this company will be be made in the future, Google nor MSFT is going to buy us. We, will make a profit but the real one is in the long term investment in VRNG. Thank to all that participated. GLTA
JJ, Tom4, and all participants with legal inclination, good morning. Have we heard from our good friend "Rd Angus" lately?, Red, if you are on line later on will you give us your take on what is going on and perhaps a peek into the future. Thank you all in advance for your comments. Lets not get discouraged nor intimidated, the bigger they are the harder they fall. GLTA
realtalk24, you are correct, why have they not filed since June 2012?
HH02, I agree with you, we need financial update since they started to ship, maybe that will bring life into the shares. I am looking for it to at least go back to $1.20 soon. this is OMO. go LYSCF
IBH, I am with you, go VRNG!!!, its about time something happens.
postyle, thank you very much. Lengthy but instructive, their model to grow forward is going to be over a long period of time until the patents are proven in court, then all of those that are infringing will be liable and pay instead of going to court.
Tom4, good morning, where can I go to listen to the CC from March 21st, I was not able to listen to it when it was taking pace. I believe there is something in the conversations that may give some guidance as to what is happening here. Really appreciate from all if you have access to forward it. Thank you all, have a great day. GLTA
xlt, thank you for your response, I feel that once the good Judge finally gives his rendering the way the jury came to their decision it will be favorable to VRNG
flat foot, it can not get flatter than where we are today, where is David Zembeck, the P.R. director I have email him but no answer I guess the way things are going today it may be a good reason for not answering. Where is Gordon?
xtl, thank you a point well defined, I would not like anyone looking into by books every quarter, but, for that luxury of not having anyone look into my affairs, it would be worth between 450 and 550 millions, that is MHO, then again, the proverbial one bird in hand is better than thousands in the bush. Thank you for your explanation. GLTA, we neeed JJ to move on to other matters in his agenda.
xtl, can you please elaborate how did you arrive at the amount of 300 to 400 millions, this is getting interesting!!!
'keith', my grandfather taught me how to whistle in the middle of the forest, but first I had to shut up and learn how to listen to the birds singing. Let's hear what they have to say, sometimes we are able to pick up something important by just listening. We are going to be O.K., GLTA,
'JJ', mine is the 29th, and the wife's the 23rd, it sure be nice if we both get something at least take some time off from this carrousel. Good luck and happy birthday to all.
'JJ', I have not seen volume so thin for the first two hours in the past, something is taking place, what it is I have no idea.
'Tom4' good morning, I have the same feeling, today we may hear from HJJ it is going to bounce and begin a new era for VRNG, enough is enough, it is only a good feeling, GLTA.
To all, this is a forum where we have a common goal, that is to enrich our lives and the lives of our families through our investments. I read most of the postings when I have the time, in my view and the view of others that have post is a breath of fresh air when they do so.
This investment has turned out to be a unicorn, difficult to decipher for various reason but the foremost is that is in the hands on someone who does not have a vested interest hopefully on either party involved is this case, it is not if the company is making or loosing money is about who is right and who is wrong. Even all of the participating attorneys and alike can not make heads or tails out of this situation, VRNG's directors either can not or will not say where we are going for some reason, and believe me there is a reason for every season, let's wait and see what happens on March 21st, my intuition tell me that there may be something in the making. To IBH, do not stop I for one do read your postings and I may disagree "sometimes", I take the information and filtered it, let's hear from you and others. Let's all get along and share our thoughts. GLTA
'redux', where will the pps go from where it is now? if they settle for a billion.
'Tom4', please extend a very happy birthday to your son, let's hope that soon we will be counting our blessings from VRNG. Best of every thing to every one on the board. GLTA.
'PWRctl', I am looking for a BREWMASTER, trying to start a Craft beer company in San Diego, Ca. Fantastic way of describing the possibilities how VRNG is looked by a group of scientists is this VRNGBrewery, it is only their opinion based on how they look at what has taken place with HJJ. They have not really looked at VRNG as a long term investment. I think Mr. BREWMASTER MR. LANG SHOULD GIVE US AT LEAST A HINT AS TO WHAT IS IN STORE FOR THIS BREWERY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR POSTING, YOU HAVE MADE MY DAY. LOOK FOR MODERATE PROFIT TAKING ACCORDINGLY HOW THE BREW DEVELOPS. THIS IS MHO.
'Pierrocks', blame the Directors and Public relations department in making these people sell their stock, if only they would put out updates to what they are doing the stock could be trading a bit higher, perhaps $0.02 to 0.03 it is a shame what they are doing to all investors. OMO.
'morongobill', I believe that the stock at his price is a bargain to get into it. I agree with you this is a long term investment, they need to produce in order to bring in profits to reduce their investment here. I am long at this time.
'tobinator00', my apologies, I misspelled your name on my previous answer.
'tobunator00', I believe that there are two persons who are well versed in legal matters, they are 'Red Angus' and JJ, there may be others that are qualified and put their two cents worth replying to your questions. I wanted to take this further and ask them as well if we as investors have any rights to demand from the Directors of VRNG a time line they are following regarding the legal proceedings at this time, is there anything they can do to make the Judge come up with some rulings. Thank you .
"JJSeabrook", my heartfelt condolence, to you and your family. I lost mine in 1999, I miss her most days of my life, for she was the greatest woman in my life, there is only one MOM!!! glad to have you back, I just asked about you and "Red Angus" this morning, glad to have you back. VRNG will triumph in this batlle. GLTA
Tom4, I believe that the moment "HJJ" rules on re-adjusting the Jury's number to reflect the truth of their findings, VRNG will move up somewhat, for how long or how high, no ones really knows. You have to take into consideration many factors, and even then it will be difficult to know where it is heading. One thing I believe is that this may be a long road ahead for VRNG, giving the facts as to where are the earnings coming from and how much. I would be nice if we derive some from ZET, and some from Microsoft, but the reality is that we lack those streams in order for the stock to settle on a value per share. Those are my humble opinions regarding VRNG. I am holding now upwards of 40m, @ $3.81, at least I am going to hold for a little bump. We all have different positions with this stock and are stuck with it for the time being. Tom, I can not advice you or anyone in this matter. Some times the best way to go with your instinct. This is only my opinion, do your research. GLTA