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100billion short is gulp lol
1767 gold
thats what i said
sticky is OLD info just wanted to remind we are locked in on the pref ffgo divi amount ,unless nmgl takes extraudinary measure to issue more preferds otherwise any profit above face value goes somewhere else like not to ffgo divi holder...but to nmgl common...hope they fix this since no divi has made it to any ffgo shareholder yet
1050 to 1750 huge spread ffgo divi recipient gets natha for and doesnt even get to hold our preferds in our own account , not likeing this picture, still waiting for credability to be restored to be honest it hasnt yet been restored.
heres the glich either distribute more pref to western diversified or amend the face value of the pref ... dont say i never gave ya nothin lol
time to recaliberate ffgo divi lol 1811 now!
1807 au
gold claims thats the only point of agreemant GOLD
thankyou exactly gold is what under your premis is reverting back of course i disagree with this hankypanky but agree that value, the gold, is what its all about ...good so we are on same page wether searchlight wants to take the gold or gold if ffgo as all sec doc represent the dealio is about gold on that i can say your begining to see what is there in ffgo.
thats a 5 not .5 stockjoke
lease have been posted lease owners have been vested what do some reading
blm claim nuimbers have been posted your outa your league
ill show mercy ,our neighber has a pic of 5oz ore on its web site ; go find that and come back with a description and i may help you some more lol!
wrong, due diligance is extensive bouse and south copperstone are not anomolys whole area is active historicaly and in the present
GOLD SCREAMIN 1710
big wow! still climbing
$100 days maybe hu?
bells and wistles going off in plung protection team ofices lol
gold Bid/Ask 1700.70 - 1701.70
very agressive response to neutral post lol
my calculations say they them not us are in a scorched earth retreat and are have to use carts in thier retreat... hows that for a Napoleonic referance , wich does fit thier complex if i do say so.
lol chomp chomp on the bit
Napoleon complex get it lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol its against my interest see lolon another note j willie did anther article hits those topics i know u interest is in check it;
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article29665.html
Filled Buy 150000 FFGO Limit 0.0001 -- -- 15:37:46 08/05/11
Order No. xxxxxxxxx
Fortress Financial Group
Entered:15:37:42 08/05/11
end of day may have certain aspect so more difficult to iou, anyway it filled quick
150000 interesting
order executed instantly
I have to admit this has not downed on me until just now . realy ups the stakes a crap loud I may have to go do some math on this could be intersting LOL
look look there is no differance to shorty one share for them represents a historical divi and the current to be anounce see its one share two divi they gotta cover bothe LOL
well historic divi hold likew half bouse thats like 500mil on top of current divi LOL so its like triple the divi of value to shorty he will pay yes
thats just it not only will they have to pay the current divi to the current owner but they gotta pay the historic divi possibly for same share wow they stacked the divi on old shorty I love it , what ya think
check this if they want to cover the historic divi but say you already sold your shares and remain eligable hows shorty going to cover that OUCH lol the holder sold already historic locked is lol table turned
I was just thinkin about historic divi recipients and they all get a distribution from the sale over and above the 23% for bouse for example because they could have already sold thier shares and those shares they sold are or will be eligable for the current divi of .0034 so I just had a ah ha moment so not only is shorty responsible for our 250mil he has to cover another 40% or so of histoerics divis LOL OUCH that is of course if those where um shorted as well LOL , no wounder they are screwed they can cover if they had to . I guess they could get a time ma chine and go back in time and buy up all they historic divi holders <LOL
cash would be easier lol
just to show how strong these words are "irrevocable consent" they are the exact words a biological parent uses when giving a child up for adoption "irrevocable consent "
OLdBen there may be a issue with historic divis because technical issue of they may be direct owners and pref nmgl may have to flow imediatly to them , just a guess why not shown yet. furthermore for all divis to arrive same time unlike hunt divis and the 100B issue that was exacerbated by the uneven distribution ,, trying to avoid I hope.
4/23/2010 8k sorry haveing trouble cut paste also names south copperstone same way;
The Company has secured the irrevocable consent to dispose of their shares of South Copperstone, Inc. in concert with the Company, representing an additional amount of 1,027,142,329 shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock, representing an additional 46.69% of the outstanding shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock.
This is made up as follows:
Eligible Dividend Recipients as at December 2, 2005: (Note 1)
757,144,529 34.42 %
Searchlight Exploration, LLC:
219,997,800 9.99 %
Fortress Financial Group, Inc.*:
1,030,421,001 46.84 %
Other Stockholders:
50,000,000 2.28 %
2,057,563,330 93.53 %
agree nmgl file would confirm
the april 8k ffgo has more its a long one many exact percentages and where they are i sugest a quick read.
here some math 34.42+9.99+2.28=46.69 clearly talking about additional shares
NOTE 1:
This represents the sum total of large stockholders identified on the South Copperstone, Inc. stockholder register who received their shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock through the Stock Dividend declared by the Company on December 2, 2005.
*Fortress Financial Group, Inc. holds its interests in South Copperstone, Inc. through its wholly owned Investment Corporation, Western Diversified Mining Resources, Inc.
The Company is therefore in a position to furnish the Purchasers of South Copperstone, Inc. with an immediate amount of 2,057,563,330 shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock, representing 93.53% of the outstanding shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock.
The balance of the shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock in the amount of 142,436,670, representing 6.47% of the outstanding shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock are held as follows:
Cede & Co. (Note "C")
55,065,559 2.50 %
Identifiable Stockholders (Note "D")
87,371,111 3.97 %
142,436,670 6.47 %
NOTE “C”:
This represents stockholders who held their shares in the Company with their Brokers at the date of the payment of the Stock Dividend with the Record Date of December 2, 2005. These stockholders would receive their share of the sale proceeds upon the completion of the sale of South Copperstone, Inc. through a distribution which would have to be effected by the DTCC.
NOTE “D”:
This represents identifiable stockholders whose holdings are directly and identifiably held on the South Copperstone, Inc. stockholder register and received through the Stock Dividend payment with the Record Date of December 2, 2005. These stockholders would directly receive their share of the sale proceeds upon the completion of the
4/23/2010 8k;The Company has secured the irrevocable consent to dispose of their shares of South Copperstone, Inc. in concert with the Company, representing an additional amount of 1,027,142,329 shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock, representing an additional 46.69% of the outstanding shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock.
4/23/2010 8k The Company has secured the irrevocable consent to dispose of their shares of South Copperstone, Inc. in concert with the Company, representing an additional amount of 1,027,142,329 shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock, representing an additional 46.69% of the outstanding shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock.
sale of South Copperstone, Inc.
The share of the sale proceeds payable upon the completion of the sale of South Copperstone, Inc. to the stockholders described in Notes “C” and “D” would be calculated on the same terms as every other single stockholder of South Copperstone, Inc.; and without exception.
The purchase of the balance of the shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock in the amount of 142,436,670 and representing 6.47% of the outstanding shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock as described in Notes “C” and “D” will be mandatory upon these stockholders of South Copperstone, Inc. given the unconditional acceptance of the sale by those stockholders representing an amount of 93.53% of the outstanding shares of Common Stock; thereby guaranteeing the Purchaser of South Copperstone, Inc. their required 100% interest in South Copperstone, Inc. The Purchasers of South Copperstone, Inc. are solely interested in acquiring a 100% interest in South Copperstone, Inc., which will be obtained through a short-form merger under the Wyoming Business Corporation Act as the Purchasers are obtaining in excess of 80% of the stock in South Copperstone, Inc.
At South Copperstone, there is now a contiguous block of 24 lode claims that begins just south of American Bonanza’s claims and runs southwest for over a mile. Past drilling by Callahan Mining in the northwest corner of the South Copperstone lode claims reportedly encountered gold in a quartz latite unit. Quartz latite crops out or is evident in float over the entire mile plus long westerly portion of the new enlarged lode claim block. The lode claims also cover an area where Callahan’s geophysical work found an anomaly, which is also on trend with the Valenzuela mine, located to the west of the South Copperstone property. Assuming that the Company can replicate Callahan’s geophysical results, this is an area where the Company hopes to develop the initial drill sites at South Copperstone.
I highlighted a part for ya may help shed some light, its at end in read.
Form 8-K for FORTRESS FINANCIAL GROUP, INC. / WY
23-Apr-2010
Other Events
ITEM 8.01 OTHER EVENTS
REINSTATEMENT OF BOUSE GOLD, INC. AND SOUTH COPPERSTONE, INC.
Fortress Financial Group, Inc. ("The Company") reported in a Form 8-K Filing dated November 24, 2009 that on March 15, 2009, both Bouse Gold, Inc. and South Copperstone, Inc. had became delinquent with the Secretary of State in Wyoming due to nonpayment of State Taxes and were administratively dissolved. The Company has settled the outstanding State Taxes in respect of these Corporations; the Corporations have been reinstated and are now in good standing.
The Authorized Share Capital of both of these Corporations has been increased to an amount of 2,500,000,000 shares of Common Stock to facilitate the settlement of outstanding Stock Dividends dated November 12, 2005 and December 2, 2005.
STOCKHOLDERS IN BOUSE GOLD, INC.
Eligible Dividend Recipients as at November 7, 2005: (Note 2) 899,967,718 40.91 %
Searchlight Exploration, LLC: 219,997,800 9.99 %
Fortress Financial Group, Inc.*: 510,923,545 23.22 %
Other Stockholders: (Note 1) 569,110,937 25.88 %
TOTAL ISSUED: 2,200,000,000
NOTE 1: The Company transferred an amount of US$302,607,268 (Three hundred and
two million six hundred and seven thousand two hundred and sixty eight dollars) representing 519,497,456 (Five hundred and nineteen million four hundred and ninety seven thousand four hundred and fifty six) shares in the "Bouse" Gold Exploration Property to repurchase shares of the Company's Common Stock in June and in July 2008..
NOTE 2: Stockholders of the Company as at November 7, 2005 received an amount of
899,967,718 (Eight hundred and ninety nine million nine hundred and sixty seven thousand seven hundred and eighteen) shares in Bouse Mining Holdings plc as a Stock Dividend. These shares are being held "on book" for and on behalf of these stockholders. This represents an amount of 40.9% of the Issued Share Capital of Bouse Mining Holdings plc.
On February 1, 2008, the "Bouse" Gold Exploration properties and interests held in Bouse Mining Holdings plc were transferred into a new Corporation, incorporated in Wyoming, named "Bouse Gold, Inc.". It was considered more advantageous to hold these interests in a Corporation incorporated in the United States of America compared to them being held in Foreign Corporations. All stockholders are guaranteed 1 (one) share of Common Stock in Bouse Gold, Inc. for every 1 (one) Ordinary share held in Bouse Mining Holdings plc.
The Company holds full and accurate records of the stockholders eligible for both of these aforesaid Stock Dividends and as at the aforesaid "Record Dates" for these Dividend declarations.
*Fortress Financial Group, Inc. holds its interests in Bouse Gold, Inc. through its wholly owned Investment Corporation, Western Diversified Mining Resources, Inc.
No additional shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. shares of Common Stock will be issued whatsoever.
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STOCKHOLDERS IN SOUTH COPPERSTONE, INC.
Eligible Dividend Recipients as at December 2, 2005: (NOTE 1) 899,581,199 40.89 %
Searchlight Exploration, LLC: 219,997,800 9.99 %
Fortress Financial Group, Inc.*: 1,030,421,001 46.84 %
Other Stockholders: 50,000,000 2.28 %
TOTAL ISSUED: 2,200,000,000
NOTE 1: Stockholders of the Company as at December 2, 2005 received an amount of
899,581,199 (Eight hundred and ninety nine million five hundred and eighty one thousand one hundred and ninety nine) shares in Copperstone Mining Holdings plc as a Stock Dividend. These shares are being held "on book" for and on behalf of these stockholders. This represented 40.9% of the Issued Share Capital of Copperstone Mining Holdings plc.
On February 1, 2008, the "South Copperstone" Gold Exploration properties and interests held in South Copperstone Mining Holdings plc were transferred into a new Corporation, incorporated in Wyoming, named "South Copperstone, Inc.". It was considered more advantageous to hold these interests in Corporations incorporated in the United States of America compared to them being held in a Foreign Corporation. All stockholders are guaranteed 1 (one) share of Common Stock in South Copperstone, Inc. for every 1 (one) Ordinary share held in South Copperstone Mining Holdings plc.
The Company holds full and accurate records of the stockholders eligible for both of these aforesaid Stock Dividends and as at the aforesaid "Record Dates" for these Dividend declarations.
*Fortress Financial Group, Inc. holds its interests in South Copperstone, Inc. through its wholly owned Investment Corporation, Western Diversified Mining Resources, Inc.
No additional shares of South Copperstone, Inc. shares of Common Stock will be issued whatsoever.
EXTERNAL AUDIT OF BOUSE GOLD, INC. AND SOUTH COPPERSTONE, INC.
The Company is now in a position to engage an external Auditor to complete a full Audit of both South Copperstone, Inc. and of Bouse Gold, Inc. This audit is required to be completed prior to the final completion of the sale of these two Corporations as the Purchaser is not in a position to acquire unaudited Corporations due its Reporting and Filing obligations to the SEC.
PENDING SALE OF BOUSE GOLD, INC.
The Company has announced that it is in the process of completing upon the sale of its 510,923,545 shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. Common Stock, representing 23.22% of the outstanding shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. Common Stock.
The Company has secured the irrevocable consent to dispose of their shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. in concert with the Company, representing an additional amount of 1,518,563,813 shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. Common Stock, representing an additional 69.03%[color=red][/color] of the outstanding shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. Common Stock.
howdy UKON K keep um comin 1660
Bouse, Gold Mining and Exploration Project:- Dr Wayne P Colliston prepared this report, in August, 2004 on the 1,300 acre Bouse gold (silver ? copper) property situated in the La Paz area of western Arizona, USA, near the California border. At the gold price of approximately US$400/oz (in August 2004), this provides a value estimate for the deposit in the range of up to $600 million. This estimated gold resource is for the little Butte area only, and does not include any potential from the remainder of the property. At the current Gold price of circa US$800/oz, the revised and updated valuation report , will be significantly higher.
So based on this valuation, today the value should be close to 1.86 billion $ with the price of gold at + $1239.00. (Caution: this is a super-rough estimation of the in situ value)bullfinch
BACKGROUND ON "BOUSE" AND "SOUTH COPPERSTONE":-
"Bouse" and "South Copperstone" are both located in gold-rich La Paz County, Arizona, and represent a class of deposits known as detachment fault deposits. This type of deposit is prevalent on both sides of the Colorado River in both Arizona and California, and mineable resource is typically in the 500,000 ounces to 5 million ounces gold range, with a grade of .05 to .2 ounces of gold per ton.
The detachment fault type of deposit was first recognized in the 1980’s with the discovery of the Copperstone gold deposit, from which Cyprus Minerals mined 500,000 ounces of gold by open pit. Another mining company is presently exploring the remaining underground resource (which is believed to exceed 400,000 ounces) and is assessing feasibility of reopening the mine. The nearby Mesquite deposit, located in Imperial County, California, is also viewed as a detachment fault deposit. Mesquite is several times the size of the Copperstone Deposit and was mined for many years by Newmont; Mesquite is presently operated by Western Goldfields.
The South Copperstone property is a large contiguous claim block immediately south of the Copperstone Mine. Past drilling has identified gold in quartz latite, as well as a geophysical anomaly in the center of the South Copperstone Claim block. Further geophysical (including magnetic) work is planned to develop future drill targets.
The Bouse property was previously explored by Homestake Gold (now part of Barrick), which found gold mineralization throughout the property. Drill data is available for approximately 80 Homestake drill holes. Previous work by another mining company identified a 500,000 ton resource along two high angle faults that were not extensively drilled by Homestake. Exploration plans include integration of results from the previous exploration and new geophysical (including magnetic) work to identify additional drill targets, particularly along the high angle structures, with a view toward increasing the resource.
from ffgo 8k look it up///////
Bouse Property, a Mid-Tertiary system of epithermal mineralization was introduced into a stacked sequence of lithotectonic units that are located on the northern side of the Plomosa Detachment Fault. Complex epithermal gold, barite and fluorite mineralization is superimposed on earlier copper-specularite mineralization. Gold occurs in laterally extensive breccias and in steeply dipping amethystine-quartz veins. Past district production (over 2/3 of which was from the Little Butte Mine) averaged over .4 oz/T gold. Strong likelihood of a major detachment fault associated gold/copper deposit, similar to the proven and mined Copperstone and Mesquite deposits. Past drilling by Tenneco, U.S. Borax and Homestake found significant gold bearing intervals in both the breccias and high angle structures.
Project Summary The Bouse Project involves an important new type of Arizona gold deposit, called a "detachment fault" deposit. Detachment fault deposits were first recognized as a separate form of gold deposit in the 1980's. Enclosed within this pack is an article by noted Arizona geologist Joe Wilkins Sr., which describes the leading theory about how they formed. The best example of an Arizona detachment gold deposit is Copperstone, which is about 20 miles from Bouse. It was the biggest gold discovery in Arizona in at least 50 years. Cyprus Gold profitably mined the 500,000 oz open pit resource during the 1980's. American Bonanza is presently doing underground drilling. It looks like the underground high grade resource is even larger. Enclosed are some materials on the Copperstone for your general information on its history and American Bonanza's present activities there, which are the major news in Arizona gold exploration at this time. Unlike Copperstone, Bouse is an historic gold producer. 5,000 ounces were produced from high grade ore early in the 20th century. It was also worked as an underground copper mine. Most of this production was from the Little Butte Mine, which is the centrepiece of our land position.
Starting in the 1980's there has been a lot of exploration work at Bouse. Per Arizona Department of Mines and Mineral Resources records, prior to 1983 a 16 hole drill program blocked out 5,000,000 tons of material ranging from .05 to .30 ounces gold per ton. These drill-holes were in the immediate vicinity of the Little Butte underground mine and the Little Butte open pit. The drill hole locations are indicated as drill holes of an "Unknown" exploration company on the enclosed Homestake Mining map.
Next, Fischer Watt exploration, a well regarded company based in Butte, Montana, leased the Little Butte mine. They estimated the resource more conservatively, at 2,000,000 tons of .07 ounce per ton rock. They drilled exactly one 290 foot hole near the Little Butte underground mine and encountered 7 gold bearing intervals.
Tenneco then took over the project. They drilled 17 holes and found gold bearing intervals in 10 of them. Not only did Tenneco find gold at the Little Butte underground mine and open pit, but they also found gold at the Arrastre Mine, the Blue Slate Mine and the Flat Fault Mine, all of which are included in our project.
During 1984 U.S. Borax drilled 18 holes in the pediment to the west of the historic mining district along the inferred course of the Plomosa detachment fault. Three of these holes met with success. We have a lot of material from this project, and it is included for your review. These are the packets and maps from Corn & Ahearn and PCMI. While we have not viewed this area as a high priority, some of it has been included in our present land
position.
Starting in 1987, Homestake Mining leased the central part of the district (called the Brindle claims -- these are the core of our present land position) and acquired an option to purchase the smaller patented group to the west called the Paradise Mine, which is not included in our project. Homestake drilled over 50 holes over a 4 year period. They found significant gold mineralization everywhere that Tenneco did at the Little Butte mine and open pit, the Blue Slate Mine and the Flat Fault Mine. They also put down seven drill holes in the vicinity of the detachment fault. Enclosed is a pack which we obtained from
Barrick which includes all of Homestake's drill logs and assay results. The map at the rear section entitled "Alteration, Mineralization and Drill Holes" includes all of the drill information for the previous work by Fischer Watt, US Borax and Tenneco.
What does the future hold for this gold deposit? While a gold deposit this big will take a substantial amount of work to turn into a large proven reserve, this should be a simple and straight forward effort if the drill programs focus on the core deposit, rather than concentrating on peripheral areas. The core deposit may be visualized as an inverted "V" with the Little Butte underground mine near the apex, the Little Butte open pit, Flat Fault mine and Blue Slate mine along the left leg, and the Airfield deposit at the bottom of the right leg. If, as we believe, the entire area of the inverted "V" turns out to be a mineable open pit resource this would be a far larger gold
deposit than the 1,000,000 +/- oz Copperstone, and may be closer to the 10,000,000 oz size of the Mesquite mine, which is another detachment fault deposit in California.
Another high priority area is the granite block located within the confines of the inverted "V." There is high grade gold mineralization at the Arrastre Mine, which is near the southern end of the granite block about 4,000 feet south of the Little
Butte underground mine. Homestake did not even bother to map this area in detail, which is surprising given the extensive surface shows of copper oxide and the abundant quartz.
Also included are the two major geological reports on the district. (1) The Jemmett report, from 1966, is included because it gives some good descriptions of the individual mines. While Jemmett is not very enthusiastic about the mineral possibilities of the district, his report predates the discovery of the detachment fault model of gold mineralization, which turned Western Arizona into a "hot" area for mineral exploration. (2) The second report by Duncan was funded by Homestake. An important
conclusion (p.37) is that the high gold and copper values are in a NE/SW band corresponding to the left leg of the inverted "V" referred to above.
Included with the projects is the Burnt Well property, also located in La Paz County. We have acquired about 640 acres along the Bullard detachment fault in the vicinity of the Silver Lining Mine, and plan to add at least another 480 acres. While Cominco drilled the Bullard deposit to the east along this fault, Burnt Well escaped the attention of the majors during the 1980's gold exploration boom. A limited amount of material is included from the Arizona Geological Survey and the Arizona Department of Mines and Mineral Resources. Preliminary surface sampling shows similar grade (approximately .1 oz gold per ton) as the open pit resource at Copperstone. There is no recorded production for this district. However, from the size of the dumps, it is obvious that there must have been substantial production in the past.
bouse; The core deposit may be visualized as an inverted "V" with the Little Butte underground mine near the apex, the Little Butte open pit, Flat Fault mine and Blue Slate mine along the left leg, and the Airfield deposit at the bottom of the right leg. If, as we believe, the entire area of the inverted "V" turns out to be a mineable open pit resource this would be a far larger gold deposit than the 1,000,000 +/- oz Copperstone, and may be closer to the 10,000,000 oz size of the Mesquite mine, which is another detachment fault deposit in California.http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2007_Dec_19/ai_n27479746/pg_3/
Dr Colliston has an impressive set of credentials and an internationally recognized PhD degree in geology from the University of the Free State (UFS) in 1990.He is a fellow of the Geological Society of London; he is also a registered Pr Sci Nat with SACNAS (South African Council for Natural Professions; registered since 1983), which qualifies him as a Competent Person and enables him to be the author of Competent Persons's Reports for evaluation and investment purposes.
Dr Colliston is currently employed as a senior lecturer in the Geology Department of the University of the Free State in South Africa and was also an appointed Research Associate at the Royal School of Mines, Imperial College of Science, University of London.He has been involved in the study, teaching, research, application and consulting in the geological sciences for the past 24 years.He is the author of 146 scientific contributions and has addressed geological audiences at conferences both nationally and internationally.
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Colliston_Wayne_547597192.aspx
His professional experience in the geological field is primarily in South Africa, Namibia, United Kingdom, Australia, Brazil, Israel, Western and Southern Europe, Turkey and the Southwestern USA.Part of this experience also covers Exploration Geology in base metals, gold and diamonds and includes remote sensing applications and the interpretation of satellite imagery and aerial photo analysis, hydrogeology, geophysics, geochemistry, and geostatistics.
Dr Colliston has specialised knowledge in the fields of structural, metamorphic and economic- geology, the tectonics and structure of gneiss terrains, fold and thrust belts, geological mapping, geological synthesis, and in the economic evaluation of mineral projects.
Research and consulting work has covered diverse topics and areas:
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Dr Colliston has consulted for a number of companies e.g. Anglo American, Anglo Vaal, Gold Fields of SA, Randgold Expl., Rio Tinto, Falconbridge, Billiton, Harmony Gold, KDMC Ltd, Tradeline Namibia (Pty) LTD, the Institute of Groundwater Studies, Water Research Commission, and has research collaboration with institutes such as the Royal School of Mines, University of the Witwatersrand, University of Pretoria and University of Vienna.
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