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Hmm...
And you were told of the revenue projections, the imminent release of v2, etc?
Wing, were you at the last shareholder's meeting? Or do you know anyone who was?
thanks
They wiggle the bid to discourage sell orders...good sign...
OOhhh that's close.
LOL...I guess not this time...
Where do we go now?
I guess I need to find out what VBA means...LOL
Can you configure your program to execute trades automatically somehow? ...Build your own "black box"?
P K G, let me go on record saying I hope you are rewarded for your blind faith in George. I don't want you or anyone to lose money. At some point in time the dilution may end and they may produce some revenues. But personally, I have made some small profits here and there trading HYRF, always making timely sells based on the assumption that management lies, people believe, and price will collapse. So far it has been a good strategy. But if a miracle happens I will be the first to tip my hat to you.
GLTY
jc
You will likely never see financials, as they have been promised ad infinitum and never materialized. And I am not arguing. I am supporting my position , as you are yours. Don't worry, our posts can't hurt anything. That dubious distinction belongs to management.
You believe what George is telling you? LOL Anyhow it doesn't matter. The thing that affects you and me is the fact that shares are being printed and dumped. I guess I am to ignore the fact that UTK abandoned their million dollars worth of shares IMMEDIATELY after word hit the street about BCGU's involvement? And since BCGU price went from about a dime to about half a penny while O/S increased 7 fold? So what does that tell us about BCGU? Look up "Hedge Fund" and "Private Placement" LOL. Ask George if creditors accepted shares directly in liu of payment or if in fact he didn't use proceeds from BCGU PP's toward those debts. Ask him in an email so you can print it. He won't answer you.
Yes the O/S is close to 20,000,000 more than Tex's last count. BCGU is on a roll.
Right click in the video and then select "block images...."
Two things weigh in favor of management in my mind. one...a bombshell PR and no dumping of new shares that I can see.
Another thing is the decision to make proprietary in house use of this SWARM technology. It would seem that if they simply sold the setup to all takers the proliferation would pit one SWARM Box against another. If this works as they say it does it's the best I've ever heard of. By excluding others and using this setup exclusively, they have insured that if they make money hand over fist, so will shareholders.
So far I am impressed.
This is without doubt the wackiest stock I've seen in a long time.
Like me? LOL
Wow, good trading test results. Do I correctly read that they are going to open their own trading division?
We need volume.
1 and 2 million share block buys going through for whatever reason.
Here is a graphic depiction of the rough order of events and the long term chart. The big dilution started as BCGU entered the scene. I can't prove that BCGU has done this with PP's any more than you can prove they haven't. But the chart is what it is.
It was a hypothetical example. But that is how a private placement works. They won't pay the market price for dilutive shares. These are newly minted shares that are being dumped into the public market for the first time. They don't care what the current "share price" is as long as it is much, much higher than the price they negotiate to pay for their shares. With a pink sheet, if you see the A/S and the O/S rising steadily over time as share price conversely falls steadily, you most likely are witnessing a private placement in action.
To precisely answer your question, they would not pay market prices for the stock because it would have to go up for them to make anything. Adding dilutive shares doesn't make the stock go up, it makes it go down. Only revenues and a steady share structure will make the stock go up. Also, a company like HYRF makes money on a PP because they simply print the shares and sell them in quantity to the Hedge Fund. It's pure money for pure paper. The Hedge Fund unloads ASAP because they know the company is doing nothing to give value to the stock. All this is perfectly legal and as unregulated as the wild West 150 years ago.
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A hedge fund is an investment fund charging a performance fee and typically open to only a limited range of investors. In the United States, hedge funds are open to accredited investors only. Because of this restriction they are usually exempt from any direct regulation by the SEC, NASD and other regulatory bodies.
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To paraphrase P K G , hedge funds, among other things, buy blocks of stock at a big discount to the market directly from a company and dump them on the public market at a big profit. The company makes money via dilution usually because it can't make it any other way, and the principals in the hedge fund pocket cash in copious quantity. The retail share holder gets to watch his diminishing stock shrivel up and puff away in a vaporous cloud. Hence, it's a paper sale.
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The vehicle this unregulated old boy's network of fat cats uses to skin the public is called a "Private Placement". It is the afore mentioned buying of newly printed paper from a worthless company at a big discount ( a fraction) to what the shares sell for on the open market. Let's say the share price of HYRF is a penny. The hedge fund buys tens of millions of newly minted shares at .001 each. There is some fluffy PR work , hints from management of good things around the corner, etc. The cheap shares are gobbled up by dolts like us. Company officers and hedge fund fat cats pocket the money...we get to watch the price of our worthless shares diminish thanks to dilution and the non performance of the company. All of this is unregulated.
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A private placement is a direct private offering of securities to a limited number of sophisticated investors. It is the opposite of a public offering. Investors in privately placed securities include insurance companies, pension funds, mezzanine funds, stock funds and trusts. Securities issued as private placements include debt, equity, and hybrid securities. In the United States, private placements are exempt from public registration under the Securities Act of 1933. The exemption from registration for a private offering is contained in Regulation D of the Securities Act of 1933. While the procedure for conducting a private placement pursuant to the exemption is less stringent than for that of a public restrictions of Regulation D.
Those requirements typically require the use of a private placement memorandum, which, for all practical purposes, complies with the requirements of a prospectus which is required in public offerings. The important aspects of the offering are covered: a description of the terms of the offering, the company's business, risk factors, additional terms (i.e., antidilution protection, registration rights, control features), expenses of the transaction and summary financial information. The purpose of the summary is to make the offering easy to read and understand. As stated, suppliers of capital are inundated with business plans and private placement memoranda; the sales-conscious issuer must get all the salient facts in as conspicuous a position as possible if he hopes to have them noticed.
Private placements can only be sold to certain sophisticated investors. In the U.S. these are called accredited investors, and they are defined in the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission's requirements for a Reg. D offering.
Issuers should approach offerings that have stated maximums and minimums with caution. The SEC has made its position clear. If the issuer elects to increase or decrease the size of the offering above the stated maximum/minimum, each of the investors who have signed subscription agreements must consent to the change in writing. It is not open to the issuer to send out a notice to the effect that "We are raising or lowering the minimum and, if we do not hear from you, we assume you consent."
Regulation D is a government program created under the Securities Act of 1933, instituted in 1982, that allows companies the ability to raise capital though the sale of equity or debt securities. The programs were designed to provide two main things - an exemption to sell securities in a private transaction without registering the securities (something that happens in any transaction involving investors) and the appropriate framework and documentation for doing so properly. Regulation D Offerings are the practical method companies use to raise capital from individual investors. Who should use a Regulation D Offering? Any company or entrepreneur that is seeking to raise equity or debt capital from investors.
There are 2 basic types of Regulation D Offerings that can be structured:
An "equity" offering is where the company sells partial ownership in the company (via the sale of stock or a membership unit) to raise capital. Equity offerings are preferred by early stage companies because there is no set repayment schedule or debt service payments - the investors profit when the company profits.
A "debt" offering is where the company raises debt financing by selling a note instrument to investors with a set annual rate of return and a maturity date that dictates when the funds will be paid back to investors in full. A debt offering functions much like a business loan except instead of a bank providing the financing it is a group of investors lending funds to the company.
Preparing a Regulation D Offering is very straightforward. It involves three primary steps:
1. Pre-Offering Structuring: Most entrepreneurs are not experts in raising capital - and thus typically have poorly structured transactions. An improper or non-existent transaction structure will portray a very unprofessional image of you to potential investors. Thus, the very first step in an offering is properly setting the transaction structure and, in equity transactions, company share structure.
Pre-offering structuring typically includes such items as setting share price or note amount, determining how much of the company to sell (in equity situations), which Reg D program to use, setting the maturity date and annual rate of return for corporate notes (in debt situations), share allocations to principals so they maintain a set amount of control in the company, minimum and maximum offering amounts which set the effective range of the offering, minimum amount of investment per investor, etc.
2. Document Creation: Step two of preparing an offering involves the creation of the related Regulation D offering documents. These documents include:
Private Placement Memorandum: The Private Placement Memorandum, or "PPM", is the document that discloses all pertinent information to the investors about the company, proposed company operations, the transaction structure (whether you are selling equity ownership or raising debt financing from the investors), the terms of the investment (share price, note amounts, maturity dates, etc.), risks the investors may face, etc. Do not confuse the detailed disclosures and transaction structure in a PPM with the general information a business plan provides - they are not the same.
Subscription Agreement: The Subscription Agreement sets forth the terms and conditions of the investment. It is the "sales contract" for purchasing the securities. It is practically impossible to raise capital without this document - investors are not going to invest into your company or opportunity based on a handshake. Would you invest into a company without having the terms and conditions of the investment set in writing and agreed to by both parties?
Promissory Note: In debt offerings you need to have a Promissory Note outlining the terms of the loan arrangement with the investors. The note is the actual "loan document" between the company and the investor.
Form D SEC Filing: The Form D is the notification filing that is sent to the SEC in Washington, DC. It notifies the SEC that you are using the Regulation D program and provides them basic information on the company and the offering. It is not an approval document or registration - it is merely a filing that notifies the SEC that you have a Regulation D Offering in place.
3. Marketing: The offering is now ready for marketing to investors.
A Regulation D Offering will solve all of the technical issues you will face when dealing with investors (investment structure, investment documentation, etc.) - these are issues that should be addressed before you interact with investors. Not addressing them ahead of time presents a very unprofessional image of you to the investor.
The Regulation D Programs can be used by domestic as well as foreign corporations. While the programs can be used by any corporation type - the preferred structure is a stock "C" Corporation or Limited Lia
This is a paper sale. That has been my experience. It's currently in cahoots with a hedge fund.
Proceed with caution, IMO
jc
I guess it was my fault....sorry. I'll skidaddle...
I agree. When I buy again, I won't say a word.
Anyhow...I could have made a mistake...it wouldn't be the first time.
I don't get it? I am rooting for it to go up too. It dropped through today's trend line and I sold. When it starts moving back up I'll buy. It's as simple as that. I see lot's of people posting about buying all the time...what's the big deal?
No rubbing in...just telling you what I did. It wasn't enough to affect the price I am sure.
Hey, no arguments from me.
Well, I was there back when they had the first big launch and the atmosphere was the same as it is now. When I sold I stated that I'd be watching and that if they have a good product they will succeed. That was at a nickel. I still feel the same, but with a wait and see attitude. I have nothing much to say about the company ,as frankly, I don't know much about it. I do hope it goes up!
jc
...Been doing this since mid 90's. Been there and done that sort of thing. I can only tell you that my instincts have always served me better than DD. But I hope it keeps going up...I'll get back in.
jc
Maybe...I didn't say I won't be back. But lots of small potatoes add up ;)
GL... hope it keeps running for ya all.
HUH? LOL.
I just sold....I'll be lurking....
jc
IMHO, we need to crawl a lot more before we walk. Long slow steady average gains will make you a lot of money. This needs to continue creeping along. I think it's moving too much to fast now. .10-.15 is still way out there. I'm not even entertaining that thought yet.
jc
Obviously some dump to accompany today's pump.
Okay, after getting out at just under a nickel (quite some time ago) I am back in.
jc
That has always been the rub. The water treatment equipment has always been good. It's the greedy bastages in the office that dug a hole they can't seem to climb out of. They had a real shot at growing a legitimate company and making us all a lot of money to boot. Instead they chose to turn this into a paper mill. With the ever increasing dilution, even if the company gets back on it's feet and starts to make money, chances of us seeing any of it are getting slimmer as the float continues to swell.