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I still can't believe after 4 years and all the progress. The Price Per Share is a depressing .29 cents.
Make all the excuses you want people....you have to admit....its disappointing
I can write a whole page of why the price per share is where it is, and talk about all the dilution, toxic financing, hiring criminals to the board of directors... the expenses funneled back to the insiders...
Or where the 400 million dollars went, when it at best cost way less than 100 million to build out.
BUT WHATS THE SENSE ANYMORE....FEB 2018 THE PPS CAN NOT EVEN HOLD A PATHETIC .30
I KNOW I KNOW WAIT TILL 2020
BIGGEST INSIDER ENRICHMENT COMPANY EVER
I ALMOST RESPECT THE GAME THEY ARE RUNNING ON US ALL..ITS MASTERFUL
.29 PPS FEB 2018
Im afraid that if they do not meet the 38 million revenue guidance for 2017..the news will take this stock to the teens. Im not positive, and i do not feel like looking it up, but i think they need to get 15 million in revenue for the 4th quarter to meet 2017 expectations
Everyone is so quick to comment when we bring up facts explaining why the pps is .289 and will forever stay in the dilution circle of .12 to .40's it is good range to bring in new investors and keep others believing while the company gets rich and sells off 1 billion shares.
Everyone is sooo quick to celebrate a pathetic .03 cent gain like jesus just came down from the heavens.
But no one cares about it dropping back into the .20's after CAL REC ? lol
Noooo they didn't just Rinse Repeat Recycle on you again..did they?
Well they leave no scraps on the table and they are competing with you the shareholders for the last crumbs before consolidation.....thats how greedy Derek Peterson and the insiders are ....
Thank god they have only 88 million shares left to dilute....
Watch once they are done taking the crumbs...they reset with consolidation and issue more shares..
WOW!!! .28 and dropping..... Come on people tell me how exciting it is about a fluff article or how great it is to get cheapies lol
Or how its the whole industry in the red ...lol
Show some self respect people admit your angry and disappointed in the Derek Petersons performance for the share holders.....
He is doing great for himself and the insiders... they are all millionaires, while we are getting racked through the coals for the 4th year in a row.
Rinse Repeat Recycle never fails
And you wonder why i rant about these criminals
.28 pps Really?
Come on spin it....spend your time saying "errr good article" while all of our share holder worth gets taken away....
.29 and dropping.... 1 billion shares outstanding and 750 million on the float and Current active toxic financing....
All while TRTC insiders are making > $250,000 a day , and have a huge war chest of cash on hand.
Yea lets talk about a dumb useless article that does not talk about financials lol
Look at the financials and it all points to enrich insiders only!
.29 pps tells no lies
This why the pps has been in the dumps for almost 4 years - These are signs of management not giving a rats behind about shareholders...hence the now 1 billion OS count maxed out
To get an inside look at TRTC’s reckless dalliance with convertible notes, go no further than its quarterly reports. Its 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2017, notes that “during the six months ended June 30, 2017, senior secured convertible promissory notes and accrued interest in the amount of $8,839,084 were converted into 50,710,473 shares of common stock.”
How bad is the impact of TRTC’s convertible note addiction on common shareholders? The table below, which illustrates the rate at which outstanding shares have increased over the past five years, answers this question.
Year TRTC shares outstanding
2012 76.89 million
2013 99.04 million
2014 174.3 million
2015 240.19 million
2016 389.36 million
As of December 11th 2017 903.17 million
Shares outstanding nearing authorized shares of 990 million
In five years, TRTC’s shares outstanding have increased more than tenfold and are now inching dangerously close to its authorized shares of 990 million. This means that going forward there is very limited room for TRTC’s debt holders to convert their debt into new shares. This heightens the prospect that TRTC may default on its debt. In case this happens, shareholders will be first to lose as debt owners will foreclose on the assets. This is the benefit of being a debt holder as opposed to being a shareholder. Debt holders usually have the first claim on a company’s assets in the event of foreclosure.
Who cares lol the freaking price per share broke .29 good lord
We could care less about a article
Your right....they raise it up for metrics on paper for the first 2 weeks of January, and then sell it down the rest of the year. Then when Late November/December comes the insiders sell their personal shares.
Oh btw thats when Derek's lock down of shares gets unlocked....lol I told you guys the lockdown of shares is another tool in the insider enrichment game to keep people engaged.
A bait and switch... Good thing they only have 88 million shares left out of the 1 billion to dilute.
Who would have thought after all the pom poms saying wait till :
- Wait till we get dispensary permits
- Wait till we open dispensary
-Wait till EG goes national
- Wait till ivxx expands
-Wait till 3rd quarter 2017
-Wait till NV goes rec
-Wait till Ca goes rec
EVERYONE OF THOSE SLEEPY END ALL HUGEEEEE GAME CHANGER EVENTS FAILED THE SHAREHOLDERS.
FEBRUARY 2018 ---> THE PPS IS .299 AND DROPPING AND THERE ARE 1 BILLION SHARES OUTSTANDING AND 750 MILLION ON FLOAT
EXPENSES OUTWEIGH REVENUE..
TRTC INSIDERS: THANKS FOR TAKING OUR MONEY
THANKS DEREK PETERSON
THANKS MICHAEL NAHASS
THANKS SALWA IBRAHIM
THANKS MARTIN KAUFMAN
Man it is really bad across the board.....ugly
Great .299 pps ....Let me guess.....Great opportunity to buy AGAIN lol
Derek needs to get fired.
Feb 2018 and the pps is going back down into the .20's
Awwww does it hurt peoples feelings? Waah Wah
Well it should the pps is .32 after 4 years of dilution and still active toxic fins rounded off with 1 billion shares outstanding.
I am a long and it makes me mad. I expect more from the CEO
I understand because of the federal regulations that they have to dilute some shares to grow. But diluting 550 million shares in 12 months is excessive, especially when you had over 70 percent of your assets all ready in place. I mean they did not have to buy most of their dispensaries...they were rewarded by permit. They do not own some of the properties, and pay monthly rent..which is mind bending to understand.
The build outs for a dispensary is at best and in my opinion way over bloated at 1 million each
Lets say a grow facility like EG in nj is an over estimated number of 5 million
So we are talking 7 to 10 million dollars for everything
Now when it comes to blum oak...i still do not know the true numbers and exchange of share.ownership on that dispensary, but i heard a huge number of 60 million which i do not believe
SO EG revenue could have paid for 90% of TRTC total growth, give or take 1 or 2 toxic financing deals
That does not include the expenses being paid back to them selves in the form of security and rent.
SO where did the dilution of 990 million shares diluted go?
Lets say an average of high and lows of .40 pps at 990,000,000 shares = Thats $396,000,000 !
Lets just be generous and wrap up the real costs for everything at very generous $100 million dollars
Thats including pays offs, lawyers, and jet flying around the country.
Where is the $296,000,000 ??? Your gonna tell me that they needed to do this latest round of toxic financing for 3 million dollars? lol really???
They did it because they can...and will milk the share count dry...and leave no crumbs on the table. cause they can...
Last and not least..Derek peterson can reset the whole shareholder con after doing a reverse split.
Cause he can...
They are just greedy insider enrichment criminals... ever notice they never itemize the expenses every quarter? lol
Newbies there is no guess or speculation about why the pps is a diluted .32 and unstable
To get an inside look at TRTC’s reckless dalliance with convertible notes, go no further than its quarterly reports. Its 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2017, notes that “during the six months ended June 30, 2017, senior secured convertible promissory notes and accrued interest in the amount of $8,839,084 were converted into 50,710,473 shares of common stock.”
How bad is the impact of TRTC’s convertible note addiction on common shareholders? The table below, which illustrates the rate at which outstanding shares have increased over the past five years, answers this question.
Year TRTC shares outstanding
2012 76.89 million
2013 99.04 million
2014 174.3 million
2015 240.19 million
2016 389.36 million
As of December 11th 2017 903.17 million
Shares outstanding nearing authorized shares of 990 million
In five years, TRTC’s shares outstanding have increased more than tenfold and are now inching dangerously close to its authorized shares of 990 million. This means that going forward there is very limited room for TRTC’s debt holders to convert their debt into new shares. This heightens the prospect that TRTC may default on its debt. In case this happens, shareholders will be first to lose as debt owners will foreclose on the assets. This is the benefit of being a debt holder as opposed to being a shareholder. Debt holders usually have the first claim on a company’s assets in the event of foreclosure.
Well as Pearl Jams Great song Corduroy says " The Waiting Drove Me Mad "
4 years of dilution and toxic financing and after all we funded for Derek Peterson ....
He can only muster up .32 pps which can turn real fast to .18 like it has so many times before.
Thank god he only has 88 million shares left to sell.... i think 1 billion is enough already
Let me be clear i do not want a reverse split, but they left the company no choice
Without consolidation no one who can read the current financials will buy into this company
Its like we are stuck in purgatory.
Hey Derek how about a modest reverse split like 5 to 1 ? Then the Longs can get rich with you?
i think a 198 million OS count cleans thing up really nice.....and gets us all on the same page...and most of all happy....
Can you imagine all of us on the same page pushing this company on social media!
Briar the PPS is everything to me ...... If the company's PPS was >$1 without doing a reverse split.
You would never here me complain on this board and i would preach to the choir promoting Derek Peterson and how he changed his insider ways.
But .31 cents going on 4 years while the Canadian companies are anywhere from $8.50 to $30 a share higher than us, and they haven't even went recreational?
Its time for Derek Peterson to stop lining his pockets with gold and buying beach houses while we all suffer at .31 and its not even a stable .31 pps
Or you can look at the financials and it all points to enrich insiders only .319 pps tells no lies
This why the pps has been in the dumps for almost 4 years - These are signs of management not giving a rats behind about shareholders...hence the now 1 billion OS count maxed out
To get an inside look at TRTC’s reckless dalliance with convertible notes, go no further than its quarterly reports. Its 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2017, notes that “during the six months ended June 30, 2017, senior secured convertible promissory notes and accrued interest in the amount of $8,839,084 were converted into 50,710,473 shares of common stock.”
How bad is the impact of TRTC’s convertible note addiction on common shareholders? The table below, which illustrates the rate at which outstanding shares have increased over the past five years, answers this question.
Year TRTC shares outstanding
2012 76.89 million
2013 99.04 million
2014 174.3 million
2015 240.19 million
2016 389.36 million
As of December 11th 2017 903.17 million
Shares outstanding nearing authorized shares of 990 million
In five years, TRTC’s shares outstanding have increased more than tenfold and are now inching dangerously close to its authorized shares of 990 million. This means that going forward there is very limited room for TRTC’s debt holders to convert their debt into new shares. This heightens the prospect that TRTC may default on its debt. In case this happens, shareholders will be first to lose as debt owners will foreclose on the assets. This is the benefit of being a debt holder as opposed to being a shareholder. Debt holders usually have the first claim on a company’s assets in the event of foreclosure.
If the company was doing well i would never post anything negative. In fact i would not even be on the forum complaining. This company is failing big time for its shareholders. The price per share is rinsing--- repeating and recycling again lol for the 20th time lol
Hence the pathetic .31 price per share.....
You just hate reading about the negative financials and why the pps is stuck in a <$1 circle.
A .31 black hole, because of 1 billion shares outstanding and almost 1 billion on the float, along with stilllll active toxic financing lol
So you attack Magnum....who is actually very polite to everyone. You just have no bullets to fight the financial facts and shady history of trtc.
SO all the cry babies say " just leave if you do not like trtc wah wah" or " Wait till this day" wah wah lol
Can you imagine a financial world where ceo 's were not judged by their performance for the shareholders??????? lol
That is the blind world of TRTC pom pom supporters. They do not even understand how to read the financials lol
The insiders got away with highway robbery...
I would not be hating trtc if the pps was >$1 without having to do a reverse split.
Ok Oyster...you keep loving .31 price per share, and eventually when you research and look deeper into the history of this company. You will feel the same way as me.
They will never leave crumbs on the table for the shareholders.....They are not in it for the long haul.
Derek Peterson clearly wants to sell the company to the highest bidder when the climate is right.
He has mentioned this as an option many times.
With that state of mind .....the last thing the CEO is concerned about is shareholders worth.
I do not hate this company Green. I hate how they screwed all the long shareholders, and used every financial trick and tool that toes the line of being legal to screw the share holders and line their pockets with money at our expense.
Its the way derek peterson tried to get over on the shareholders during the PREFERRED SHARE RATIO CON
It was the way they lied about the IVXX quality control issues and never told shareholders, but quietly sold all their shares before the bad financials were released.
It was the way Derek hired known sec criminals to his board of directors
It was the way Derek hired the biggest insider enrichment guru ever. Michael James (he uses a fake name) This man stole millions of dollars from people invested in NRTI and diluted the stock down to .001
The fact that Derek Peterson hides from his criminal past and thinks changing his name hides everything.
The fact that they diluted 1 billion shares...... and now have to reverse split
To get an inside look at TRTC’s reckless dalliance with convertible notes, go no further than its quarterly reports. Its 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2017, notes that “during the six months ended June 30, 2017, senior secured convertible promissory notes and accrued interest in the amount of $8,839,084 were converted into 50,710,473 shares of common stock.”
How bad is the impact of TRTC’s convertible note addiction on common shareholders? The table below, which illustrates the rate at which outstanding shares have increased over the past five years, answers this question.
Year TRTC shares outstanding
2012 76.89 million
2013 99.04 million
2014 174.3 million
2015 240.19 million
2016 389.36 million
As of December 11th 2017 903.17 million
Shares outstanding nearing authorized shares of 990 million
In five years, TRTC’s shares outstanding have increased more than tenfold and are now inching dangerously close to its authorized shares of 990 million. This means that going forward there is very limited room for TRTC’s debt holders to convert their debt into new shares. This heightens the prospect that TRTC may default on its debt. In case this happens, shareholders will be first to lose as debt owners will foreclose on the assets. This is the benefit of being a debt holder as opposed to being a shareholder. Debt holders usually have the first claim on a company’s assets in the event of foreclosure.
I understand because of the federal regulations that they have to dilute some shares to grow. But diluting 550 million shares in 12 months is excessive, especially when you had over 70 percent of your assets all ready in place. I mean they did not have to buy most of their dispensaries...they were rewarded by permit. They do not own some of the properties, and pay monthly rent..which is mind bending to understand.
The build outs for a dispensary is at best and in my opinion way over bloated at 1 million each
Lets say a grow facility like EG in nj is an over estimated number of 5 million
So we are talking 7 to 10 million dollars for everything
Now when it comes to blum oak...i still do not know the true numbers and exchange of share.ownership on that dispensary, but i heard a huge number of 60 million which i do not believe
SO EG revenue could have paid for 90% of TRTC total growth, give or take 1 or 2 toxic financing deals
That does not include the expenses being paid back to them selves in the form of security and rent.
SO where did the dilution of 990 million shares diluted go?
Lets say an average of high and lows of .40 pps at 990,000,000 shares = Thats $396,000,000 !
Lets just be generous and wrap up the real costs for everything at very generous $100 million dollars
Thats including pays offs, lawyers, and jet flying around the country.
Where is the $296,000,000 ??? Your gonna tell me that they needed to do this latest round of toxic financing for 3 million dollars? lol really???
They did it because they can...and will milk the share count dry...and leave no crumbs on the table. cause they can...
Last and not least..Derek peterson can reset the whole shareholder con after doing a reverse split.
Cause he can...
They are just greedy insider enrichment criminals... ever notice they never itemize the expenses every quarter? lol
Your Right....at this point i just can't stand it anymore...idk how you other longs feel, but i am so tired of the way this company treats its shareholders.
But the PPS is declining !!!!! They are getting filthy rich and the shareholders pissed on..
Don't you get tired of seeing the .31 Price Per Share? My god they are running a text book insider enrichment company and setting up to sell ( like Derek said) and walk away filthy rich , while we get screwed
These con men are not in it for the long run....history has proven that they are out to sell the company
If he was a honorable man...he would honor his campaign promises about mj and put the whole issue to rest, and let the states do business without any fear.
But the beast they are building is only making them rich ...... come on guys be real already... the pps is declining going into feb 2018 at .31 pps ????
After all the assets we bought Derek Peterson and Michael Nahass?
After NV Rec and CA Rec went live? .31 pps ? Be real guys..... They are doing great...shareholders are getting bled dry.
Aside from feds rescheduling MJ...which wont happen until lobbyists from pharm and alcohol say so...
Nothing is going to push the pps but a bullshat reverse split......
They screwed all of the long supporters.....hell even the flippers have fewer opportunities
But the insiders will grab a few more dispensaries from mom and pops and get richer.....
fluff up the expenses to show no profit....and keep diluting....
You should demand and expect to gain shareholder worth....not make excuses for the insiders
Well i was hoping they never would if read my old posts... i was preaching for them to grow more organically and raise the pps gradually so everyone grows and prospers with the company's insiders.
Now just the flippers get gains, but even that is only 1 to 2 times a year at best, because they have to compete with Derek Peterson diluting shares before during and after the news he puts out.
Now that the 1 billion os count is almost maxed out.... go figure the insider say hey shareholder we will lock our share for a few months lol what a joke lol
Basically if you support they way they have done business and are happy with the .31 pps.
Then you must expect for them to consolidate and re issues shares to themselves and start all over again...
It worked the first time lol for them at least
THEY HAVE TO REVERSE SPLIT THIS YEAR... sorry for the caps... they are 88 million shares away from maxing out the 1 billion os count. SO unless you like the .18- to - .40 pps range for another 3 years
than they have to consolidate to grow
Im happy for Derek Peterson and the crew.... they have been gaining al ot in the past year.
It is hard to jump up and down when the pps is .31 and was not able to even hold the very modest gains of .03 cents.
But hey enjoy the riches Derek you snake in the grass
Great they get another permit granted dispensary. Somehow i bet they will find some loop hole or way to
dilute the last 88 million shares outstanding to pay for the paper work and build out lol
So they gain another asset and the shareholders pps goes down even further ...
Lets all celebrate the new .25 - .35 long term pps range until they consolidate.
lol
Thats great news for the insiders....another low cost permit... they get richer by the day
I understand because of the federal regulations that they have to dilute some shares to grow. But diluting 500 million shares in 14 to 16 months is excessive, especially when you had over 70 percent of your assets all ready in place. I mean they did not have to buy most of their dispensaries...they were rewarded by permit. They do not own some of the properties, and pay monthly rent..which is mind bending to understand.
The build outs for a dispensary is at best and in my opinion way over bloated at 1 million each
Lets say a grow facility like EG in nj is an over estimated number of 5 million
So we are talking 7 to 10 million dollars for everything
Now when it comes to blum oak...i still do not know the true numbers and exchange of share.ownership on that dispensary, but i heard a huge number of 60 million which i do not believe
SO EG revenue could have paid for 90% of TRTC total growth, give or take 1 or 2 toxic financing deals
That does not include the expenses being paid back to them selves in the form of security and rent.
SO where did the dilution of 990 million shares diluted go?
Lets say an average of high and lows of .40 pps at 990,000,000 shares = Thats $396,000,000 !
Lets just be generous and wrap up the real costs for everything at very generous $100 million dollars
Thats including pays offs, lawyers, and jet flying around the country.
Where is the $296,000,000 ??? Your gonna tell me that they needed to do this latest round of toxic financing for 3 million dollars? lol really???
They did it because they can...and will milk the share count dry...and leave no crumbs on the table. cause they can...
Last and not least..Derek peterson can reset the whole shareholder con after doing a reverse split.
Cause he can...
They are just greedy insider enrichment criminals... ever notice they never itemize the expenses every quarter? lol
This is why the pps is .31 and dropping and why the pps will never ever break out and hold any value outside .18- .50's range before being sold off.
Newbies--> To get an inside look at why TRTC’s pps is so pathetic.
For one... it is their reckless dalliance with convertible notes, go no further than its quarterly reports. Its 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2017, notes that “during the six months ended June 30, 2017, senior secured convertible promissory notes and accrued interest in the amount of $8,839,084 were converted into 50,710,473 shares of common stock.”
How bad is the impact of TRTC’s convertible note addiction on common shareholders? The table below, which illustrates the rate at which outstanding shares have increased over the past five years, answers this question.
Year TRTC shares outstanding
2012 76.89 million
2013 99.04 million
2014 174.3 million
2015 240.19 million
2016 389.36 million
As of December 11th 2017 903.17 million
Shares outstanding nearing authorized shares of 990 million lets call it a even 1 billion
In five years, TRTC’s shares outstanding have increased more than tenfold and are now inching dangerously close to its authorized shares of 990 million. This means that going forward there is very limited room for TRTC’s debt holders to convert their debt into new shares. This heightens the prospect that TRTC may default on its debt. In case this happens, shareholders will be first to lose as debt owners will foreclose on the assets. This is the benefit of being a debt holder as opposed to being a shareholder. Debt holders usually have the first claim on a company’s assets in the event of foreclosure.
Dilution has killed this company at its current state. The pps will never >$1 ever until they reverse split.
The only reason it ever crossed over $1 in 2014 ( for a few days)---> is because of a fake run combined with a very low os count of 174 million.
Does anything ever make sense with this stock ..lol the insiders lock up shares and revenue increases but the stocks pps drops .03 today for no reason ??? lol
What a crooked game we play
Man i have never seen the mj market get attacked in such force for multiple days in row before. I mean for almost a week there were passive aggressive fluff news pieces from that fools website.
They are trying sooo hard to bring down the canada stocks to eventually ride back up again.
My whole board has been red for awhile
Well Derek Peterson robbed the shareholders for 3 years straight, and now the pps is stuck in the mud in the .18-.40 range
Anyone who can read and understand a financial report can see the pps is going no where
With 1 billion shares outstanding and a toxic financing deal still waiting to mature out there....im surprised its not lower
People will not invest in this company until the consolidation.....which will suck for all of us long term supporters, but the greedy insiders have to reset the game....they only have 88 million share left out of the 1 billion to dilute....
They would like to reset the game and dilute another 1 billion
They are the most criminal pos human beings in the otc...they should be in jail
They steal peoples money and think its ok
That has always been the breaking point, when i thought wow Derek Peterson is a shady con man.
It still makes me angry being reminded of it.
Thanks...I wish you were correct, but because of the financial numbers..i see no logical way this stock could ever ever be >$1
Plus the insiders have run out of shares...to operate with aka Dilute and raise money( instead of using their own)
The only reason they ever hit $1.40 in 2014 was because of the mj hype and mainly because the OS count was only 174 million shares.
Now the os count is 1 billion
But hey i hope there is some logical financial way it can break $1 without consolidation.
The insiders sold most of their shares sooooo they have to consolidate and re issue new shares to them selves..... its the logical thing to do
There is nothing easy about this stock lol Its been stuck in the dilution mud for 3 years.
This pos can't hold down a .03 gain without selling off, but you think it is going to be a easy dollar lol
Have ya read the financials...
bottom line only way everrrrrrrrrrrr it breaks a dollar is if they do a reverse split.
They still have 88 million shares to dilute......they are not leaving it on the table ...
once that is done with....they will consolidate
Well i was wrong every stock jumped back up north except guess who....good ole trtc
Gee what a surprise.....the company continues to disappoint share holders.
Its sad that a freaking .03 gain is soooo hard to hold with this company.
I guess there is always 2019
There must be some big news coming down the pike, because there is a concerted effort to bring down the pps in every MJ stock across the board.
This forum would be useless without people like mags....it would be a bunch of dreamers who do not understand the numbers and how to read the verbage
ALL you would see is people posting " to the moon" or "wait till this day" cheering all the failures of this company, while the insiders laugh all the way to the bank lol
DO You even remember the preferred share ratio scam ? that was a huge hot button issue..that of course "you protected trtc over " all of us hit the streets screaming and then Alan wrote the article publicly outing them to their peers.
Well after being radio silent for months...TRTC all of sudden changed the policy
Remember how we hated the reverse split subject......and yelled and screamed about it....Well that brought the topic to the table on the conference calls..
The only reason why i promote getting the reverse split over with, is because they have sold almost all of the 1 million shares outstanding already... YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY...I DO NOT HAVE TO RE-EDUCATE
Yet 90% of everything he or she posts is fact and public knowledge. It hurts the feelings of people that have no answer to the hard questions and who do not know how to read the numbers or do research.
So they insult mags or respond with non-factual 1 liner to the moon dreams.
I get it...as a long time bag holder. I do not like some of the hard facts he/she brings up, but i respect the information brought to the table.
History tells no lies...