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1.1 billion shares is not so bad.
I think VYST is such a stellar company that just the fundamentals alone of vytex being made into condoms and clear balloons could support at least 3 to 4 billion shares.
Soon the 8k is coming out showing such fantastic news I wouldn't be surprised that the merger will be overshadowed when the company releases news that it is looking into purchasing a bedframe company located in Thailand.
It will be nice to have my shares worth at least $10/share that soon I might start loading up the account with $5/shares!
VYST. Whoo Hoo! Lets get er done!
Interesting.
I don't believe it though as in my opinion it's all smoke-and-mirrors.
But, IF this merger goes through AND the reverse split goes through AND the adjusted R/S stock price remains that same as it is today...
Then it will be real and the investment will still be boring as this company is indeed a hyped, boring, trash, penny land stock where only the insiders and wolf traders will make bank...
The rest of the sheep will and are definitely getting sheared.
Fact of the matter is: What, almost a billion shares out there now? Some guy at Rotmans collects juke boxes? A stock price in the same area as last year before the herd arrived? Same vytex material as YEARS ago? Oh, and the company 'buying' a broke air filter company that has yet to turn a profit even when they were a stand-alone company?
I do love to see reality over fantasy win every time.
Hey Doyle... I miss you. When you ran this company the stock price was higher than Rotmans .0005, MUCH higher. It was thinly traded with very few shares and now we have this mess.
Maybe you could become CEO again and partner with a real company that's interest is in the company and products and NOT their own enrichment?
Rather have a boring company and make money than have all this smoke-and-mirrors (and millions and millions of diluted shares with a reverse coming soon it will be most painful)
What I need is ice cream, potato chips and dip, good fishing, a nice sunrise... BUT as for VYST, I'm now greedy after reading all the 'rah rah' being put out by tweets, Greg, the janitor, and other sources... so... I NEED .30-.33 and THEN I'm out of VYST.
Of course, by saying this, it will not come true as the company will probably screw up any merger, the air filters will explode, the latex factory will blow up, and the price will hover at this range until the upcoming r/s.
Yep. Amen to that. Years and years of pain and now looking forward to more of the same.
But soon VYST will be over $10.00 a share, uplisted, and the Rotman enterprise will dominate Walmart.
This is the reason why I even think about reading message boards. It's post's like the last few you submitted regarding a rarely talked about facet of GERS that makes it very informative.
Don't know about the other alias's out there but Ice likes. So, thanks for providing some knowledge about something I did not know about GERS.
Yes. I agree. But... VYST is going to $1.00, $2.00... Heck, it might just soar to $5.00!
Soon. Just have patience. Whats a couple of years when dealing with such opportunities this company has looming for it.
Good idea.
So, GERS has been dabbling in the cannabais industry.
Any speculation on how that's going?
Anyone?
I personally think that is one of the reasons for lack of SEC filings as in my investing in other companies dealing with marijuana or even hemp products, they steer clear of what the Fed's still label, illegal.
Some banks and credit card companies won't deal with such either because of the Fed.
And, wondering when the next Pacer filings start coming.
I'd like to see Dutch and Harry play a game of tennis or chess or debate the pro's and con's of owning GERS.
Thinking both would be winners!
Now, turning the channel back to GERS ownership. Some investors have compared the company to a diamond. Some are not happy with the lack of SEC filings. Some have shown Pacer reports on the progress of court proceedings.
Attis has been in the news. There apparently is a lot going on yet the GERS stock is very slow in trading.
The whole situation for GERS reminds me of a pine tree shedding needles for years and years. Nothing exciting. A big tree slowly getting bigger. The pile of needles getting deeper. And then, out of the blue, a bolt of lightning hits the tree and ignites the needles...
The resulting fire and action for the tree makes all those past years seem very boring.
That's what's going to happen if GERS ever gets hit by the lightning of some positive OR negative news.
Then it will definitely be marshmallow time!
If everything is so good for VYST, then why all the millions of increased shares, hype, news... etc... WHY is the stock price the same as last year before all the greatness?
Why is the stock price for VYST not at .50 or 1.00 now?
Is it possible the stock price will go to .03-.01 before .10?
Also, why did the NEW Board gals/guys purchase VYST at .0007 with all the knowledge of insiders and not buy it like the rest of the investors in the pennies... especially after they announced a stock buyback?
GO VYST! This company is surely going places...
He and She... Ambiguous terms relative only to belief of a mind processing binary data.
GERS is perceived by some as lacking SEC filings due to nefarious reasons why others feel the opposite.
All boards, minds, social intercourse... again, a choice of whatever the investor/reader decides the picture should be.
Reasons of communication go far beyond the obvious. There is tactical planning and nuances most will never come close to understanding as they are basically unaware they are a part of an experiment.
Right now, the experiment of investing in GERS is and has been, underway for years.
At the end of the experiment, the results derived will determine success or failure for He and She.
Trust is indeed important.
I trust my instincts and my instincts tell me that I'm going to see the stock price at .01 -.03 before my new target price (called wishful thinking) of .30.
As for any CEO or management of a penny stock, I have absolutely zero trust.
As for trusting any insider of VYST who purchased stock at .0007 knowing the fundamentals of the company during the time the loan sharks were converting... There is ABSOLUTELY zero, zero, zero, trust. I'd believe the loan sharks because at least they were honest to loan money to a company and then profit from that loan.
Amazing.
In my opinion VYST is mostly a scam company who's management is only concerned in enriching themselves.
The proof is there for all to see with the massive dilution.
Yet, my posts are being removed because it does not adhere to those who have an opposite opinion.
Just more proof of pennyland scams.
Oh, and by the way. 1. VYST to $1.00 soon brother. 2. We're all gonna be rich sister. 3. This company is fantastic. 4. VYST to be on the NAZ soon...
If you're one of the recent herd leaders (or a member of the penny herd) DO NOT READ THE FOLLOWING, (as it contains actual information about the Rubicon and not the recent pump-and definitely-dump
The RUBICON™ communication monitoring system is a proprietary and patented software technology that delivers true “5G”, 5th generation wireless transmission, optimizing the specific “best attributes” of both WiMax and WiFi technologies. This customized wireless solution is additionally anchored in an advanced OFDM (Orthogonal Frequency-Division Multiplexing) array thus delivering a guaranteed minimum 40 mbps data rate and bandwidth, with up to 140 mbps raw, and faster with specific enhancements.
Huh. Go figure? Patented software... A member of the board (for find the name for yourself) that specializes in internet stuff...
5G. Recently 5G has been in the news a lot.
Okay, you can now all return to your individual visions of riches.
Go DNRG! (thud)
UNBELIEVABLE! I actually agree with one of your opinions/speculation. Color me pink!
(thud)
"Call 9-11... No... Wait... There is a pulse. Never mind."
Yep still here. This ice is too cold to melt.
Fell for some of the earlier 'rah rah' speech being spilled here even when I knew better.
Now, back into the cycle of waiting for sun to rise in the West for VYST, which means absolutely nothing.
Always liked the product VYST has but now seeing how the 'new' boys and girls in charge are just diluting to enrich themselves...
So, what is VYST today? A furniture store? Air filter store? Mattress store? Condom store? or is it a factory?
All I know, there are millions of shares out there, almost zero revenue (compared to what is being spent)
Recent 10-k was horrendous.
"Go away ICE!"
Yep, good idea. Think I will. But first... GO VYST! To the moon! A dollar sooooooon! (thud)
Really? Are you serious?
1. How can millions of shares out there ever possibly rise above .50? That would mean a market cap so huge it would be unbelievable (without a reverse split)
2. Vytex has been marketed for YEARS and yet even in the latest 10-k, the revenue is... bluntly... horrible...
3. The air filter was non-revenue generating before VYST 'purchased' it with millions of shares... and it remains so today.
In my opinion, take your money to Vegas and put it all on black.
VYST is the PERFECT company for insiders such as Rotman's.THEY will get rich... the rest of herd only get a few crumbs falling their way.
good point
BEST post on this board in a long time. You are absolutely c-o-r-r-e-c-t.
VYST = SCAM
Go Rotmans!
State of VYST
1. Boring
2. Horrible 10-k
3. Too many shares floating out there with more to dilute
4. Purchased companies with stock that have no revenue
5. Insiders have not sold any shares
6. Insiders purchase shares (albeit at ridiculous low prices recently, mainly because they knew the condition of the company before any other investors)
7. Very little revenue compared to losses
8. Boring
9. Extremely boring
10.Did I mention that this is a boring company trading at what it did (actually lower) than BEFORE Rotman's empire showed up and lead by the most boring CEO ever, Doyle, AND at a whole LESS shares than the hundreds of millions of shares bouncing around.
In summary. This stock price is going to the moon. Greg is the best man to ever grace a company in penny land. There will be a vytex mattress in every bedroom in America. Soon an uplisting to the NAZ... (and yet the 'rah rah' continues... pathetic)
And, that's the way it is for VYST for years and years and years.
Yep. Indeed a r/s coming. It has to. But, at least some of the 'rah rah' folks will feel good when after the split the stock price is then .50
Then after the r/s, the company can go out and purchase more profitless companies. Maybe some fertilizer companies in India that use water buffalo dung... or, maybe a fish processing plant that uses the shells from shrimp to flavor a new brand of ice cream.
Pathetic company and only getting worse.
HOWEVER
one can always hope...
Pain! (and cookies... preferably with chocolate milk)
I like good endings. A happy ending is better though... (all in my own opinion of course)
I I I
I
I like ice cream!
I like puppies
I like DNRG
I like Dr.Islam (developer of Rubicon)
I like ice cream!
I don't like tape worms on Pop tarts.
Go DNRG!
Whoo Hoo!
(thud)
I told you all about the dilution but Noooooooo, I'm just a whining long who's been here for years and years owning a stock that's turning out to be no different than all those other shell companies.
That said though, I like pain. That's why I invest in crappy stocks. And if I make coin on this one I'll only invest in some other crappy company that dilutes, over promises, and fails to deliver.
"Go to your happy place and watch kitten video's..."
Okay.
GO VYST! To the NAZ! Soon a dollar!
HaaHaaHaa!
(snort)
(gasp)
(gurgle)
HaHaHa!
Debt?
What debt!
Only a 'few' shares diluted
We're all gonna be rich!
GO VYST
(thud)
Crazy day. Lot of new 'interest'. Who knows, maybe a flippers dreams in pennyland, or maybe we finally get some kind of much needed news.
Excellent post
i suppose that is a logical perspective. but, peaceful none-the-less.
When the SEC filings resume or Pacer filings start to become more positive in GERS favor, then I'd say the perspective you point out may not be the logical thought anymore.
If there has been no substantial dilution in the past couple of years then i'd say management was indeed thinking of the shareholder.
If GERS prevails in court or in any positive revenue generation from new business, i'd say management was indeed thinking of the the shareholder.
After all, Kevin is the biggest shareholder in GERS and as such, if what I just wrote comes to fruition, as a shareholder he will be happy and i will probably fall out of my chair in happiness.
All this 'concern' about a 10-K filing?
Huh. Imagine the disappointment coming for all investors when they finally get to see the MESS in it.
Easy to form an opinion after reading years and years of 10-k filings for VYST. They all show more shares issued, more loss trying to generate rev, and this next one will be a doozy.
What, over 500 million more shares issued? (yes, some for companies acquired that in themselves lost money)
Of course, I'm wrong as usual. Many here will say, "To the moon." "$1.00 coming." "I'll never sell."
But the 10-k will truly speak for itself and it will not be stellar by any means.
Thankfully there were insider buys in the past that inspired me and not the .0007 insider buys back in March. Pathetic.
Best post on this forum in a long time.
Peace always wins over hate
GERS has been peaceful for a long time.
If the infringers lose the case, I'm sure they will hate the results to their companies bottom line.
Yay! I hope there will be candy and balloons with all that great news coming (preferably the clear balloon made with vytex)
We're all gonna be RICH!
Whoo Hoo!
Go VYST
SEC filings are a great way... nay... a DEFINITIVE way... for an investor to truly see how a publicly traded company is doing.
In those filings there are such as quarterly financials, insider buying/selling, 10-k, 8-k. And with those filings, clarification over riding any opinion or speculation.
In the long history of VYST, it has shown many filings where insiders purchased shares without any sales. GREAT!
In many filings it showed the history of a latex glut and lower prices. Not so great, though those filings also showed the patented process VYST has regarding vytex, the allergy free latex.
In many filings it showed testing of products for many companies to include medical gloves, condoms, toys, and even a special mattress for Asian hospitals. Not bad.
In all financial filings, it shows almost zero revenue EXCEPT for when they had the sleep division that ended with a lawsuit and closure of the clinic.
Why mention what no one cares about now? Well, that's easy. The 10-k will be released. Maybe next week, maybe in three months, but it WILL be released, and when it isreleased... what will it show?
1. A lot, I mean a LOT of shares diluted and floating around out there.
2. Clarification on the new debt acquired and past debt retired.
3.It will give a management statement showing it's intentions with the new pieces of pie added to the company portfolio.
4. The financials will be presented and the facts will (probably) be. "Very little revenue compared to the cost of that revenue..."
In other words, the SEC filing will be boring, lackluster, and for me, just another confirmation of a company with a good product but not really any GREAT 'general buying public' stampede for products.
It will be interesting in that the air filters did not sell well when a seperate company owned it and I doubt it will fare much better under VYST ownership. (I feel sorry for the past shareholders of that company)
And, aside from all the 'rah rah' investors clamoring the pure virtues of VYST, I don't hear people in the town where I live say, "Oh man, you just gotta try the Vystar matress..." No, and that's because the buying public in this world could care less.
As such, the stock price will fluctuate (in my opinion) purely on investor greed to match the various moments of news release. Up. Down. Sideways.
Of course, it is this way for most companies, UNLESS, they have a product that the general public CRAVES... sadly, air filters, condoms, and mattress's are not one of them as in this world there is a vast choice.
My target price now to take profit and get out most of my shares are .30-.33. I'll keep some for fun to play on whatever new 'news' the management concocts. If it goes higher, than yippee, skippy, doo dah day... those people invested at the time will have earned it.
When the 10-k does come out, it will include financials. Financials no one wants to talk about.
People want to talk about how VYST is going to the NAZ. They want talk about Rotman's furniture.
Yeah, important stuff... condoms, pillows, mattress... BUT, how about speculating on revenue.
In my opinion, the debts will be huge as a lot of shares were used to 'purchase' other companies, and more debt accrued to ramp up production.
So, this 10-k will really be no different than all the earlier ones except the debt will be higher, the share count astronomical and yes, higher rev.
Probably in line proportional to $1.00 in rev for every $1000.00 in debt.
IF the company plan succeeds, those numbers will change in the future but only after stronger sales and a much needed reverse split.
Thus, a perfect penny flippers dream! Sporadic good news will drive the stock price high, allowing for smart people to bank coin and soak new bagholders. A 'never ending' fantasy game where people think they are going to get rich... only to see reality crash it all down.
Of course, all in my not-so-humble opinion and realistic speculation.
Did he say, "Trust me" when he sent it?
Nope. Never deleted nothing, never will. Say it as I see and know it.
Deleting is for others to do.
Now, you do raise an excellent observation about VYST and stocks in general. No body cares about other investors UNLESS it can make them money...
Being in VYST for YEARS... has not been fun... It's been boring, boring, boring...
I definitely want other people to buy VYST as the price will go up. It will go up if the revenue actually occurs for the company. It will go up if the merger goes through at the 100% rate. It can also crash if management is proven to be liars or no revenues generate or any other myriad of reasons.
And if it does go up, I'll sell my shares to someone else without caring one bit if they lose money or make money... As long as I. ME. As long as I make money.
Ha! I do love your sense of humor... Reminds me of myself once when I had faith in companies.
Enron
K-Mart
Sears
Olivia
Keep the the faith.
Keep to your convictions.
Make billions of dollars.
And when a few years go by, you will definitely be a wiser investor.
Why sell? I heard from many on this forum that the SEC filing is going to be released (soon) I heard that it is going to $1.00 (soon) I heard that there is not going to be a reverse split. I heard that the CEO is the greatest man to every run a business. I heard that Greg communicates openly with everyone 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I heard the company is going to the NAs
Heck, why sell and lose money after owning shares in the company long before 99.9% of the people 'rah rah'ing it here even heard of VYST.
Truth be told, the only reason for all the hype is that the company allowed massive dilution so the penny flippers could jump in with dreams of hitting the 'big one' the 'best stock ever seen'. Not the news of vytex,not because of the CEO, not because Rotman's...Nope, almost 100% of the people now invested in vyst did so because of the hype of this forum (and others) AND because a lot of people scored very, very cheap shares as millions and millions of shares were dumped... and now are reaping the profits selling to more sheep.
Heck and heck, why would ANY sane investor sell their shares of VYST now when new bag holders are coming so the old bagholders like me can cash out. I'll just keep waiting which I doubt many other investors will unless the 'good' news that keeps just out of reach, comes true...
I love reverse splits... makes counting my shares much easier to do on one hand.
Much easier to say I own 40 shares instead of 400,000. All those extra zero's make me feel a bit bloated.
And all those people who say they own 20,000,000 or more will surely be relieved to say they own 2000 shares. All those pesky zeros cause cotton mouth.
AND, instead of shares being worth .0007 to .03, they'll be worth a $100/share. WOW! Talk about a great deal!
Soon we'll be listed on the NYSE, the Chinese big board, and Tempor Pedic will be driven out of business while the condom business for VYST will get so strong, the world population will drop by %50 in nine months.
Greg, lets get that reverse split over now so we can SOAR! Whoo Hoo! (thud)
I wanna buy some of the oil! Uh... for my dog. Yeah, my dog has sore joints and either a joint or oil should do the trick.
Anyone know where we can buy some of that oil? Uh... for pets?
I would never condone (puff puff, toke toooooooke...ahhhhh)
the use of marijuana products... unless one owns a pet with sore muscles and craving for out-of-body experiences OR, craves cheeto's, pringles, or ten hotdogs smothered in valveeta cheese and sprinkles.
Huh. Go figure? Got a craving all of a sudden for some cheeto's covered in hotdogs swimming in cheese...
Fact: Inhaling is MUCH better than exhaling.