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Right!
Go argue with your wife, or kick the cat...
You are just in the mood to argue, so am not wasting my time...
Have a good day,
No, but the word "informed" does...
If you only look at information that is readily available, or that only comes from sources of one view-point, then your information will be limited at best...and you will be in error more then anyone would want to be...
"The demographics of Toronto make Toronto one of the most multicultural cities in the world. Data released by Statistics Canada as part of the 2006 census indicates that Toronto is more ethnically diverse than Miami, Los Angeles, and New York City. 49.9% of Toronto's population is foreign-born.[1]"
BTW, it was the United Nations that listed Toronto as the most multicultural city in the world...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Toronto
They only sound like liberal talking points to you because you probably do not read much outside of the tea party propaganda or republican dogma...
It doesn't matter what anyone says on a message board. See it by any view-point you wish, it makes no difference...
If you think that there is "only one way or the highway" solution to all this, then the USA will have problems for a long time... and presently this is being very much done by your extremist party, the tea party...
Your only way out of this mess is by raising taxes and cutting expenses. Holler, scream or act childish like Bruce and start insulting me, it makes no difference, these problems you have are just the start, and will only start to be solved once you come together as a people and compromise.
The largest obstacle to compromise is the tea party, so they are the biggest problem you have right now...
Maybe you should take another look at that Party...
Shocker!
Something published form the heritage.org?
Wow, never seen that before...lol
Keep up the good work Jim. I'm sure your efforts are worthwhile convincing people that already agree with you...
Yup, good luck with your mania...
lol thanks for the offer Cat...
I think we'll keep our own system of selecting immigrants thanks.
With the exception of Quebec that handles their own immigration, we allow in a maximum of 20,000 people per country, so as maintain a balance of different peoples. Of course Asians have been the largest immigrant base as most places in today's world.
This has yielded us the most diverse population in our large cities. Toronto is now more culturally diverse than London for example, and the most culturally diverse city in the world.
Somehow Bruce missed that on his trip here. Well I guess it depends what one focuses on...
What is a MM? BTW
FYI - Canada takes in the most immigrants in the world on a per capita basis...
And yes they all get free medical...as do all human beings in our country...
Sorry to say, but you deserve a downgrade.
Unreal partisanship has made the country look like a banana republic that has been high-jacked by an Extremist fringe movement.
Just look for example at Jim's posts, repetitive from the heritage.org group...How can someone even attempt to have a well rounded opinion if all their news comes from the heritage.org, I mean really? c'mon...
This is balanced?
Or Bruce's post yesterday, just reeking of jealousy for Canada, and the excuses that must be given for us not screwing up like you.
Hey Bruce, sorry Canada is successful, truly apologize that it hurts your ego. Maybe, maybe if you are lucky you will get your wish and Canada will have challenges. At least the USA wouldn't look as bad as they do now eh.
Grow up!
When children play like this they are corrected, but it is very unseemly to watch people in their 60's act childish and spoiled...
...and by consequence hurt their own country with selfish partisanship...
Grow up and work like adults on compromising or suffer the consequences of a banana republic.
I think left, right and middle are all disappointed, and have a bitter taste in their mouths after all the crap.
Worse is that the country is even more divided, partisan and angry.
It's is unfortunate,
Glad to know there are people on the job, ferreting out the Untrue Conservatives, unreal...
Unfortunately the divide is even more divisive, and the USA weaker.
It's truly unfortunate,
well if you are seeing something hidden, then i am glad it provides you with some entertainment for your mind
The largest holders of you debt, I believe, have commented recently...
Read it this morning...
"In a strongly worded commentary, China's state-run news agency Xinhua criticized U.S. lawmakers for flirting with a disastrous default, saying the world's largest economy has been “kidnapped” by “dangerously irresponsible” politics.
No policy-makers in China, the largest foreign creditor to the United States, have commented on the crisis but Xinhua said “the ugliest part of the saga is that the well-being of many other countries is also in the impact zone."
You wanted the attention, well you're getting it,
LOL, it's hard to be perfect Anvil...
Well thanks for the effort with your posts.
I am now of the opinion that I want this to happen, as I think many are starting to feel.
Cat actually has convinced me that this must play out. Then the people can decide from the results.
I hope the tea party sticks to their guns here and this debt ceiling issue gets run down for all the world to see.
Good luck with your efforts.
It's like banging your head against a cement wall lars...too thick...
Just because I am not yet retired or close to it, does not make me young.
Have you ever heard the expression "old men who nod wisely and speak stupidly" - Og Mandino
Age does not guarantee that one has wisdom. And many who think they are wise have just isolated themselves away from dissenting opinions in their life, so as to always be right - in their world.
Good luck with your efforts of the tea party, it seems you will attain you goal with this latest challenge to your President.
Becareful what you wish for, you just may get it.
Yup very impressive with the tea party's power,
There was even a comment from China recently on their behavior, read it this morning. Can't remember the exact comment, but it seemed to indicate that they were very impressed with the tea party's efforts
You certainly are impressing the world, yup, sure.
Hope this has brought you and other tea party'ers the attention you have been graving.
Yeah man, okay then, but many are not cat and I think most would admit that. Perhaps it is best to bring this to a head, allow the tea party to have the Right side of the political spectrum, and then take it to a vote of the people.
Really thinking that is the only way at this point, as many are very heated and becoming more and more informed and want a permanent resolution.
Jim, running out of posts so will respond to you here.
Not playing your Gotcha Game Jim. I believe the Gotcha Politics are part of the problem, as are the people who play them and use them.
To add what would usually be unnecessary context to my post, I was referring to the election held every 4 years that decides who the President of the USA will be.
The last election it was President Obama. And as many feel, he has not been given any of the cooperation he should be getting in the governance of your country.
"the fear mongering by the president is juvenile at best"
LOL The arsonist blaming the fireman for the fire again, while all the fireman is trying to do is put out the fire.
Think about 90% of even the republicans know who started this and is keeping it going...sooooooooo...
Different viewpoints that are best brought to a head.
Believe you are right...there will be fall out from this, the more so the farther it goes.
And starting to share your view point it may be best to bring this to a head now, lining it up for 2012.
But the next time, if you lose, accept the result and Will please,
Well at least that would bring it to a head, so yeah, would sound good to most people I would think.
And actually cat, at this point, it is probably the best course of action for the situation to go down, as the public are very engaged.
My sons generation, 20's are very active and informed and believe will become more so as time goes on, changing the landscape permanently.
But if that time happens and if the Republican party loses the election again, that this time you will honor the contest and respect and work with the winner, no matter what?
Respecting the Will of The People is something that is not being done, including respecting the winner of the last election, President Obama.
No doubt both sides have had a hand in the trouble dough.
But many are trying to fix the problem, while some spoiled children in the tea party are not...they are trying to make it worse by favoring the one side.
Well, at least these negotiations have produced something for all to see.
Good article doughboy, have given a quick read, will read it closer later...
Thanks man, well written,
Yup, okay then bruce...
Good luck with your tea party efforts for the wealthy...
Oh okay, so the logic you are trying to sell here, is let the uber wealthy NOT pay their fair share of taxes...as they have in the past
... so they MAY contribute more to charity, if they so decide?
Yup, okay then...
BTW, it's not me, it's your society that is turning against you, and much is being highlighted by these recent efforts of the tea party.
You have only yourselves to blame.
I can understand your upset at this point in time. Guess I would be too, if I was you.
I understand much of the way these debt-ceiling negotiations are going must have you tea-baggers upset...
Can't say I'm not enjoying this exposure put on the terrorist tea party that has come about by all of this.
Sorry your so upset, lol
When in doubt, side with integrity.
Joe C is not even considered in the same breath with the word integrity.
In my opinion, he is nothing more than a clever/clever slimeball and should not be trusted in any way, shape or form.
Anything is better than siding with slime, IMO
LOL yeah, so where are the jobs?
Where are the salaries for the middle class?
Why is CEO pay some 400 times what the lowest worker makes, when in 1950/60/70/80 it was like 25?
Why do hedge funds pay cap gains tax on income, when they should be paying income tax on income?
Why do hedge funds operate without the same reporting regs that other similar entities have, like mutual funds?
You don't need 20/20 vision to see what has been going on since Bush.
Why are income taxes at historical lows for the wealthy?
I'm sorry, but this is now glaring for all to see...
Thanks to the brilliant political maneuverings of the tea party and the debt ceiling...lol
Sorry Bud, but don't think many are listening anymore.
It's a funny thing ya know. When you squander your chance to do good, you don't usually get a second chance.
The conservative movement could have really done some good.
We are besieged with our culture being torn apart by having families redefined, by having all the liberal softness everywhere.
This was a time that for many, the conservative republican movement could have really done some good, and brought society closer to where most of us live - right of center.
But you squandered this for selfish gain, and fell for the propaganda of the uber-wealthy.
Not many will be considering much coming from the right going forward, while the right is high-jacked by the repub terrorists - tea party.
These faux negotiations that were inflicted on American society and the world, just for the enrichment of a extreme faction of a political party, have been highlighted very well by all media, right and left.
You have been called out for what you are - extremists for the rich. You can try and make it more, but at the end of the day that is all it amounts to, and more importantly, what is perceived by the world and American public.
Please go out into the streets and protest, scream at the unfairness being inflicted on the wealthy. Go on now...
Naw, I'll stay in North America thanks, and contribute my efforts to having the system be fair for all again, thanks.
BTW, Iran would not be so much of a problem if they were still being held in check by Iraq. But hey, the US did not need the money that was spent on that war, no. But we need to starve our own middle-class. Yup, okay, right...
Oh and gee, was not part of the Iran effort done in order to secure world oil prices. But they have gone up incredibly anyways? Oh, and who profited form all this?
Is it true that haliburton, Chenney's company, was awarded rebuild billion dollar contracts without any competitive bids?
Wow, the rich must be outraged for having made so much money and now expected to pay the lowest income taxes in recent times.
This is an outrage!!! ROFL
Sorry about your tea-baggers... nice try though, I'm sure the uber-wealthy are very pleased with your efforts...
Will be doing this next summer, too many will be wanting to try it first when it opens...
pretty cool, should come up here guys and check it out...
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/the-edgewalk-at-toronto-s-cn-tower-1311798178-slideshow/reporter-leans-over-edge-catwalk-during-media-preview-photo-181850793.html
From wikipedia...
No doubt the rich must be ready to revolt having to pay 35% tax instead of the historical norms.
And Hedge Funds should take to the streets in protest, I mean come on, they only pay capital gains tax of 15-17% now, and the pinkos want to charge them as income tax on their income (35%), how absurd. (sarcastic)
Lol, 250K is about 2.5 mil today.
We are headed to a day that if you have much, you will be paying more tax than today
The same amount when America was good for all and not just select bunch.
Start taxing the Rich properly, period, pointe-finale.
And thankfully, all these theatrics going on in Washington are highlighting all of this for the public to see.
Please, make some phone calls, get vocal out there, take to the streets as the rich are being exploited LMAO...
1930 - 1980
Historical marginal income tax rates for Married Filing Jointly at stated income levels.[3]
Year $10,001 $20,001 $60,001 $100,001 $250,001
1930 6% 10% 21% 25% 25%
1932 10% 16% 36% 56% 58%
1934 11% 19% 37% 56% 58%
1936 11% 19% 39% 62% 68%
1938 11% 19% 39% 62% 68%
1940 14% 28% 51% 62% 68%
1942 38% 55% 75% 85% 88%
1944 41% 59% 81% 92% 94%
1946 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
1948 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
1950 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
1952 42% 62% 80% 90% 92%
1954 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
1956 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
1958 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
1960 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
1962 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
1964 23% 34% 56% 66% 76%
1966 - 1976 22% 32% 53% 62% 70%
1980 18% 24% 54% 59% 70%
LOL Gringo, we must agree on one thing, these debt talks are working out better than thought.
I admit I was worried, but never imagined the outcry against the tea-party-highjacked-repubs.
No matter what I read, everyone everywhere is putting the childish selfish happenings squarely on the heads of the tea-party.
This is better than I ever even hoped for.
This might turn into the start of the final days of my conservatives being high-jacked by the Extremists.
Will be so nice to be a conservative and not be looked at like an angered fool representing only the wealthy.
Time will tell of course, but optimism from reality-conservatives is looking really good.
Keep it going on Dude, get more vocal, louder, complain some more about the wealthy paying too much tax...
Please, lol
Huffington Post weighs in,
Our Fraudulent Debt Ceiling Debate
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-weiler/our-fraudulent-debt-ceili_b_910814.html
The current high stakes political standoff over the debt ceiling and America's budget deficit is a fraud. At the end of 2010, President Obama and the Democrats caved in to GOP demands to extend the Bush tax cuts for two more years. Had those cuts expired on schedule, the projected savings over the next ten years would have been at least four trillion dollars. Instead, the deal brought forward the date on which the United States government would hit its debt ceiling.
Republican leaders were already wringing their hands with glee last December about using the ceiling to force through deep spending cuts, naturally targeting the most vulnerable Americans. President Obama has, disastrously, given this highly cynical game of brinkmanship legitimacy by agreeing that we need to live within our means "just like families do." In other words, government -- a.k.a, ordinary Americans who rely on that government for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, government jobs, public education and so on -- must tighten their belts to pay, in part, for the extension of those tax cuts.
This is all being debated within the perverse frame that people aren't already doing that belt-tightening. In fact, most Americans are already making do with less, while the richest Americans continue to accumulate evermore lavish and ostentatious wealth for themselves. On the heels of a three-decade long explosion in inequality, recent data show that since the "recovery" began in 2009, corporate profits have accounted for nearly ninety percent of the growth in real GDP, while aggregate wages and salaries accounted for only slightly more than one percent of that growth.
So that no one misunderstands me, it would be entirely reasonable to have a far-reaching conversation about the resources our country consumes relative to the rest of the world. Americans make up less than five percent of the world population, while we use up to a quarter of global energy resources. Given the growing pressures of resource consumption on the planet's carrying capacity and basic notions of global justice, it would certainly be appropriate to talk about living within our means in a global context.
But that is not the debate we're having. Instead, we are being subjected to the perversity of wealthy elites in a nation of vast inequity -- elites whose economic security bears no resemblance to the insecurity faced by the great majority of Americans -- lecturing to the rest of us about how we can no longer expect to live high on the hog.
Without any apparent shred of embarrassment or self-reflection, elite pundits and wealthy office-holders have argued that Americans' sense of entitlement -- older Americans have been particularly targeted lately -- is unsustainable and that they can no longer expect the kind of public largesse to which they've become accustomed. To take one of countless examples, the New York Times' Thomas Friedman recently opined that our fiscal deficits could be laid substantially at the feet of baby boomers who've squandered an "incredible bounty" by living too lavishly at the expense of future generations. It's worth noting that Friedman, in addition to having attained great wealth through his own best-selling writing, married a billionaire heiress, with whom he lives in an eleven thousand -- you read that right -- 11,000 -- square foot house.
The hypocrisy of Republicans and obtuse detachment of elite punditry in these matters follow all too familiar patterns. But the president has also played a central and insidious role in framing the budget debate in such distorted terms. The United States government is not like a household (nor is it like Greece) and it's a fundamental abdication of economic and moral responsibility to re-cast government in such simple-minded terms.
In fact, the government lives in perpetuity, can print its own currency and, despite all of the hysterical warnings about reckless and out of control spending, is still able to borrow money at low interest rates, due to the fact that our treasury bonds are considered among the safest investments in the world. To the extent that there is nervousness about our credit rating, that is a consequence of political shenanigans, not the inherent fiscal position of the United States. Government's responsibility during an economic crisis is, first and foremost, to fill the gaps left by the lagging private economy and to provide the social safety net necessary to get people through difficult periods. Contrary to the blather about deficit spending and debts, we have the means to do this. What we lack is political will, undermined in no small part by the increasing sense of entitlement of the super-rich that their increasingly disproportionate wealth is more sacred than any larger sense of the public good.
If we were having a remotely sane debate, we would not be arguing over how the government should slash the social safety net when we face record long-term unemployment and incomes for most Americans have been stagnant or declining. There is a simple, inescapable fact about our long-run deficits -- they are substantially attributable to our bloated private health care expenditures. We spend double per capita what the rest of the advanced industrial world does. Those expenditures aren't paying for better outcomes -- they're paying for the extraordinary enrichment of our health-industrial complex, including the parasitical private insurance industry and Big Pharma. Cut our health expenditures down to the level that other wealthy countries pay, and we would have large projected surpluses, not deficits.
The incoherence of our debates in these matters is evident everywhere you care to look. For example, proposing to raise the age of Medicare eligibility to 67 -- bandied about by the president during the current budget negotiations -- will only add to the costs of health care in the United States. It will leave 65- and 66-year-olds in the clutches of the more expensive, less efficient private insurance market for two years longer. It will prompt older Americans to postpone care and treatment until they're Medicare eligible, leading to exponential increases in the cost of their care once they do have the adequate coverage that Medicare provides. Raising the eligibility age may save the Federal government money in the short run, but it will add expense to the health care system as a whole. It is as depressing as it is predictable that what so-called serious people consider a serious proposal for cutting our deficits is to funnel more Americans from the cheaper, more efficient Medicare program into the more bureaucratic, expensive and wasteful private insurance market.
So this is where the current debate stands. Wealth has been rushing up the income ladder for three decades, while taxes on the rich have been sharply reduced. Our economy was brought to its knees three years ago in significant part by an orgy of reckless Wall Street gambling, most of which ended up being backstopped by the full faith and credit of the United States government -- the taxpayers. And in the face of this plunder and the price that everyone except those responsible is paying for it, we are told that we must live within our means.
To repeat, the current debate about debts and deficits is a fraud, a distraction from the relentless consolidation of wealth and power at the top of the American social order.
Amen Dude, fight the good fight, each generation has to in their time...
You and fourkids are standouts in this area. I applaud both your efforts and enjoy your posting and content very much.
Yup, will definitely drop by and visit with Billyjack and board, now that I know it's here...
Cheers man,
Hey alan, posted this first on the cascadia board, but then noticed JS was an asst mod there, so did not want the post deleted before you read it...cheers,
Hey alan, just posting to you here because I am banned on bcit and the NSS board is members only...
Check this out, maybe should be on bcit board?
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=48585973
BTW, I read all of yours and fourkids posts. You guys are inspiring and many of us respect and follow your efforts.
Cheers,
"He is NOT brilliant!"... meaning Obama, the President of the USA
"my initial qualifications
were as a Chemical engineer, and majored in maths
so I have the analytical expertise and smarts"
... meaning bruce,
Okay then Bruce,
When did you attend Harvard?
They do not seem to let people go there that are not from the best minds in the country.
Was your education Ivy League?
When where you the first Black man to become Editor of the Harvard Review, ever?
Harvard having some of the best and brightest would have some serious competition for that post, would you not think?
When did you ever take on the establishment of the USA, rise up and become President?
And you have the capacity to make such harsh, bias and definite judgement on this man?
You are that confident in yourself and your absolute viewpoint eh, okay then...
That is like watching an arm chair warrior criticize an amazing NFL'er in the Super Bowl. Because the Armchair warrior knows much better than the athlete does, for sure...lol
Amen man. May HE Bless their Souls Cat,
Wow Spanish, can never understand that...how clever of you,
Anything, anything is better than Joe C and anything he proposes.
In my opinion the man should never be trusted with anything and preferably should be publicly flogged and then locked up!!!
There is an unlikely chance at this point that this will be solved in time.
Many are starting to hope it does not as this has been a repub politics directed attack for SOLELY political purposes of the hi-jacked right-tea party.
So let America have some pain and let the chips fall where they will.
Enough of the repub crap...
You pushed this to a point of default, you may just get your wish...