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I think they spelled it thay way to ensure you could keep your ihub name after their trademark goes through. I mean if it was spelled just like yours, Kim would have to tell you to cease and desist....
Awkward.. lol.
GO KBLB.
Jimmy, are you really serious that you don't believe they are being flooded with inquiries. I mean really? So a penny stock gets a license agreement with a Multibillion dollar Nasdaq company (SIGMA/SIAL) to achieve a ground breaking research project and you don't think anyone will care to call or inquire or ask for interviews & more info?
The other thing is "flooded" is a relative term. If they had a big staff I'm sure they could handle it better, but we have what? 1 employee and an IR person. So yeah I think 2 people handling this media exposure are doing the best they can.
Who runs the show, Kim Thompson
Who operates KBLB's website, Kim Thompson
Who does all the filings, Kim
Who does the trademark process, Kim
Who answers the phone (even just to placate us small investors here), Kim.
I guess you can say there's no proof without a direct letter from the CEO telling you. But I'm not so detached from the world to say it's a BS statement. Especially with the record we've had in dialogue with the company, have you been misled before? I think not. If so please share.
JMO.
Go KBLB.
Company files for 7 trademarks:
1 85144332 MONSTER MOTH TARR LIVE
2 85144315 SPIDER WORM TARR LIVE
3 85144551 MONSTER SILK TARR LIVE
4 85144366 MONSTER WORM TARR LIVE
5 85144294 SPIDER MOTH TARR LIVE
6 85144279 SPILK TARR LIVE
7 85144234 SPIDERPILLAR TARR LIVE
Source:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchstr&state=4010:vt02p8.1.1
I posted this back in November, just thought I'd bring it to the top again for any noobs scanning our board. And as most of us know, times almost up for these filings(in a good way).
Just another step in the right direction.
GO KBLB.
Analysts’ Price Target Changes for April, 14th:
"Goldman Sachs analysts raised their price target on shares of Sigma-Aldrich Corp (NASDAQ: SIAL) from $71.00 to $72.00."
Source:
http://www.americanbankingnews.com/2011/04/14/analysts-price-target-changes-for-april-14th-gww-hp-jbht-jpm-line-lstza-mg-mtd-pcs-sgmo-sial-ssw-stj-twc/
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15 Most Profitable Materials Stocks 2010
This article's from seeking alpha, written the end of last year.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/242654-15-most-profitable-materials-stocks?source=email_stocks_and_sectors
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That the same thing that brought me in. The concept and what they were trying to do from the onset is just amazing.
I'm outta here for the day. GLTY all.
Go KBLB.
I see your doing the DD.
Yeah it always hurts to see those numbers, that's why it's so hard to stay long in bio research companies. Been here since end of 2008. It's great being on this side of the research though as compared to say 4 years ago. The bulk of the costs taken on are from the licensing. We will have another large number to swallow when we find out the Sigma agreement. But again, I stress the overall timeline of where this company stands on achieving it's goal. I got in at .015 with hopes and dream of what this means to the textile industry and the world. You can now get in at .11 -.12 with 5 years of research done, trade marks filed, techniques licensed (not counting zinc fingers yet till numbers released), a Press Conference from Notre Dame DELCARING THEY'VE ACHIEVED WHAT THEIR HYPOTHESIS WAS (which is what you did't even know for sure would be possible at .015), and now the inlvolvement of a Nasdaq multi billion dollar company. You lucky so and so's.
The downside here at this point is soo low compared to the upside.
All this is JMO
GO KBLB.
I think that's totally reasonable.
And in regards to Redskin's post about the 8k. I think Friday after close would be great.
Leaving those who get out on Friday with their pants down on Monday.
Tomorrow should be interesting no matter what. Who has the guts to be out over the weekend. How many people have heard the news by tomorrow. This news has only been out since Tuesday.
Go KBLB.
JMO.
My other thoughts on the financing aspect is they should't really need too much more. I might be crazy here though.
This is all research science. The longer the research goes on the more money you need. This company has done the research for what? 5 years now (not to mention all the time it took in prev. research to develop the tools thier working with to get to thier goal). Factored into sp already is the fact that they paid for licensing for DNA from Wyoming, Piggy Bac from Fraser/Notre Dame, filed for their trademarks(which is in it's final phase of approval) and the many years they've been working in the lab. They're in the last phase of perfecting their technique and then they can sell what they have. They don't have to create a whole industry themselves around what they've made. They just sell or license what they've made to those that are already in the industry.
We do for sure have to see how this newest agreement works it way into sp, but I really don't see why we would need extreme capital to fund operations at this point. Like I said though, call me crazy. lol
JMO.
GO KBLB.
Welcome CHM 760.
Yeah as far as the report being late. That's not unusual for the co. Although last time they filed the NT it was only a couple days later (not even a week went by if I remember correctly)that they were ready with the report. No real surprise or worry in their tardiness.
In regards to the Sigma agreement. I haven't found anything concrete. And I've been searching like a madman for the last 2 days. We have to wait for the report and then probably some kind of conference call will be scheduled to explain some things. We know they're a shareholder now. I've posted before in the assumption we paid them those shares, but it does occur to me that sigma negotiated a license agreement that could have been paid in shares and also Sigma took it on them selves to contribute a large amount of cash on their own to partake in KBLB's success. So that could help us with Operating Cash if they bought a good chunk of shares aside from the ones we (may have) given in the license agreement and within the option for commercialization.
GO KBLB.
JMO.
That's the go and go scenario. I'm sure hoping for that.
That's why I posted #17503. Mutual Fund Ownership of SIAL.
To get people thinking of larger groups with tons of cash who could potentially jump in. The way the news hit and the just kind of faded away leaves me to think of all scenerios. Timid or Extreme. Check out the scenario I put out in post #17512. This stock can leave the station with no chance for onlookers to get on. They'd be wondering what that green blur was. That was the money train leaving the station. lol
KBLB.
Spiderpillar you totally called it.
Bold statements can leave you vulnerable, but it sure feels great when your right. Love how mojo takes the credit though. Yeah you totally called it mojo.
April 11th
spiderpiller
Re: jimmybuffett2 post# 16870
Even if I did not believe in KBLB I think I would at least wait for news, or strong rumor of news before selling. The price will certainly go up from here. This is not the time to sell. IMO
April 9th
igotthemojo Re: manshoon1 post# 16776
my guess is he will say something but it wont be what everyone was hoping for...and you will get a time frame for something big in the near future...just like the other scam stocks do..
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Why can I still see posts from someone I ignored?
SIGMA's Aquisition History:
Source is Wiki.
Key Events:
2001 – Acquisition of Isotec[7], a leader in stable isotope production, whose products are used in basic research and the diagnosis of disease; opening of $55 million Life Science and High Technology Center in St. Louis.
2004 – Acquisitions of Ultrafine, a supplier of contract manufacturing services for drug development, and Tetrionics, a producer of high potency and cytotoxic active pharmaceutical ingredients[9].
2005 – Acquisitions of JRH Biosciences[10], a major industrial supplier of cell culture products for the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries, for $370 million, and the Proligo Group, a global supplier of key genomics research tools; announced membership in The RNAi Consortium and joined leading institutions including MIT, Harvard, and Eli Lilly to develop and distribute genome-wide shRNA libraries globally[11].
2006 – Acquisitions of Beijing Superior Chemicals and Instruments Co.[12] establishing a Wholly Foreign Owned Enterprise (WFOE) in China, Iropharm, Pharmorphix Ltd.[13], and Advanced Separation Technologies[14], a manufacturer of products for chiral chromatography.
2007 – Acquisitions of Epichem Group Ltd.[15] to expand capabilities in materials sciences and semiconductor markets, and Molecular Medicine BioServices to provide large-scale viral manufacturing capabilities; announced alliance with Sangamo BioSciences to develop zinc finger-based laboratory research reagents.
I don't think it's too crazy to beleive that KBLB could be
an aquisition candidate.
JMO.
GO KBLB.
You also have to take into account that Sigma could also step right up and aquire KBLB before commercial production ever starts. So KLabs uses the Zinc Fingers to knockout the weak genes of the Silkworm, they knock in the specific spider DNA and target it with Fraser's Piggy back process. Done. Then SIGMA being the Giant Global dynamo it is, steps up and offers to just take the whole thing for itself. Or maybe they, along with other mammoth companies get dirty and have a bidding war over who gets to handle the nightmare of creating all these new better exciting textiles and all the longterm profits that go with it. With that being done Kim and all those involved could happily move on to other intellectual projects or just go buy their own island and chill.
Go KBLB.
JMHO.
I Checked it out. That's just sad.
Here's my take. I think unfortunately it's almost a formality to have Ad Firm put out something. I believe if you didn't, crude shareholders could lash out at you claiming you didn't represent the stock as best as you could giving all you could to help encourage investors share price. Theres nothing wrong with advertising. There is a difference, A BIG difference though with this Company vs. other pennies who are constantly on a barrage of Ads and Pumps. Meanwhile the owners are faking reports and diluting to the point of nothingness as they line there own pockets. If you can't tell the difference then you haven't done any DD on KBLB. With regards to pay structure, dilution and overall disclosures, not to mention Kim Thompson actually answers his phone. You know how many other pinks where the owners arent even known to be anywhere in the states, or the office actually doesnt even exist. BIG difference here.
Go KBLB.
All this is JMO.
The other problem is all these bloggers writing articles in a way that seems that they had not really understood the official PR's. They just confuse things. Some blogs say Sigma is making spidersilk. Wrong. KraigLabs is making Spidersilk. Sigma is agreeing to license a tool that Klabs believes will allow them to achieve their goal in making spidersilk at a much faster rate. The only way this can be walked around is by stretching Sigmas shareholder status in KBLB, and in that, saying they are the same.
But then I could just issue a statement saying I'm making spidersilk because I'm a shareholder. Even if I let them use my microscope, THEY are making spidersilk, not me.
Am I wrong here?
GO KBLB.
JMO.
Mutual Fund Ownership of SIAL:
Source: http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Holding=Mutual+Fund+Ownership&Symbol=SIAL
American Funds Growth Fund of America
Vanguard Health Care Fund
State Farm Growth Fund
American Funds Insurance Series Asset Allocation
American Funds Asset Allocation HLS Fund
American Funds Fundamental Investors Fund, Inc.
Vanguard Mid-Cap Index Fund
PowerShares QQQ Trust - Series 1&3
Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund
Vanguard 500 Index Fund
Aston/Optimum Mid Cap Fund
JPMorgan Mid Cap Value Fund
SPDR S&P 500 ETF
Vanguard Institutional Index Fund
Materials Select Sector SPDR Fund
-Although I believe some of these funds are short SIAL.
Regardless, SIAL is Nasdaq baby! Nasdaq eyes on our little unknown penny stock.
Go KBLB!
This is a repost of mine but just shows again how solid SIAL is as a company.
Question and answer session with the guy running the show.
Thought I'd put this out again:
http://publiccompanyceo.com/index-3%20Ask%20the%20CEO%20questions%20Mr%20CEO.html
Hey, I was going to respond but the post got taken down.
It gave me a good laugh. So true.
I guess it's kind of a good thing if a stock isn't on the top 10 board because that can draw all sorts of attention you might not want on a stock/board.
Go KBLB.
What up Superfly15. Welcome to the board.
I'm scratching my head here...
Superfly15's Post:
PR is pretty misleading to me, missed the key words of USE, no mention of a partnership when I read it the first time. Buyer BEWARE on this scammy company. I could license the stuff if I wanted to.
Kraig has successfully negotiated a license to use Sigma-Aldrich's powerful zinc finger technology to accelerate its scientific research and product development, along with an option to commercialize the resulting biomaterials in the textile and biomedical fields
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The word USE is right before -Sigma- and after -License to-
Am I missing something? What PR did you look up? There are some websites that have the PR really mis-stated.
Let's say if your a graphic artist and you make a great drawing or whatever using Photoshop, but your Photoshop is a bootleg. You never bought a Real copy of the software, therefore you have never paid for the license. So Adobe (maker of photoshop) can go after you if you try to profit off of your art that you made using photoshop.
Now the license agreement can be a one time fee or can it be on a per use basis depending on how it is structured.
JMHO.
Go KBLB.
Has anyone called into Mad Money to ask Jimbos take on SIAL?
I guess I could, but honestly prob won't.
Hey spider, I believe you are definitely not alone. I've questioned myself over and over about the way I handled the run up in Sept. Something made me not sell...Not regretting it all anymore.
With what this company is about to do, depending on who and how many get wind of what this is really about, someone could really, I MEAN REALLY throw some money at this stock and then your dust with a pitance. It's no fun to be watching the team when you could have been playing with the team.
GO KBLB.
All this is JMO.
I think .14 will be a bit of a hurdle then .20.
At .14 Traders who already had KBLB on watch and prob got in around the 7's will get out when they double. Traders who got in just after the day of the news will be probably exiting around double so that would be around the .18's. And also at the .20's those that got in late on the September's run from Notre Dames Press Conference will be questioning whether to hang if they have the marbles or will totally bail from the stress they dealt with from Sept. till this PR. Although their stress was self inflicted hehe.
All this is JMO. For all I know the pps could just go and go and go!
Go KBLB.
I have a bunch of posts left for today so if anyone wants to do some back and forth I'm here for the next half hour.
I have noticed some of the bloggers/ informative websites have totally garbled the Press Releases. So depending what site you check out you can get a little confused on the subject of the agreement. Stick with KBLB's Press release or SIAL's Release.
I dare say at this point I have no DD to do for KBLB. Done it all. Now I'm just basking in the sun.
Go KBLB.
Awesome to wake up to .1255!
Morning all. Slept in today as to catch up for not sleepig at all last night. I have the pleasure of saying I was the first regular on this board to see the newsbreak yesterday. Had good dreams and slept like a baby, just as I'm sure all you other longs who held steady with class are.
Manshoon just want to give a shout out, great job to continue this board and the extra credit you do is awesome.Keep doing your thing man. Shoon1, hehe.
I see you have room for one more stickie, maybe you can stickie my silkworm picture, hehe Post# 13948. jj
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Kim just gave the zinc finger to all those that have doubted his management and his company, literally. Abusive to shareholders in regards to his silence? lol
If this is abuse I think I can handle it. lmao
We now have a Global company that trades on Nasdaq for $60.00 as a shareholder in our (not for very much longer) little unknown penny stock. The news is going around as we speak. It's been fun watching this since 3am. (as crazy as that sounds, maybe I need some sleep)
Go KBLB. Today is a good day.
KBLB LONG.
Mutual Fund Ownership of SIAL:
Source: http://moneycentral.msn.com/ownership?Holding=Mutual+Fund+Ownership&Symbol=SIAL
American Funds Growth Fund of America
Vanguard Health Care Fund
State Farm Growth Fund
American Funds Insurance Series Asset Allocation
American Funds Asset Allocation HLS Fund
American Funds Fundamental Investors Fund, Inc.
Vanguard Mid-Cap Index Fund
PowerShares QQQ Trust - Series 1&3
Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund
Vanguard 500 Index Fund
Aston/Optimum Mid Cap Fund
JPMorgan Mid Cap Value Fund
SPDR S&P 500 ETF
Vanguard Institutional Index Fund
Materials Select Sector SPDR Fund
-Although I believe some of these funds are short SIAL.
Regardless, SIAL is Nasdaq baby! Nasdaq eyes on our little unknown penny stock.
KBLB is #7 on the top ten board right now. I know it's early but hey still a good thing. Remember to put KBLB in you posts.
Go KBLB!
http://www.kraiglabs.com/Press%20Release%20Kraig%20Sigma%20Deal%204_12_2011.htm
In regards to shares:
Sigma-Aldrich Becomes Kraig Shareholder
Also, great point tophooey58. And the DD to back it up. That's how it should be.
This it too exciting! lol
Go KBLB!
Morning Retro,
Here is my take on it.
Q:Is this a development toward 'developing' the various spider silk aspects or the 'tool' for producing the various spider silks and / or other 'animal' constructs for who knows what?
A:It's an already developed tool to use to help quicken the process of producing specifically engineered silkworms/spidersilks.
Q:Is this how KBLB plans to make all those many, many OTHER 'things' which they will then be able to sell/license/market?
A: Yes, it is a part of the process. It will speed up the process, so it seems. The biomed Sigma project part of Sigma enables researchers in ways I am not smart enough to convey.(def check wikopedia about Sigma and all it's branches)
Q:Although this does not provide for a method of getting the spidersilk to market and income for KBLB, perhaps it is opening up doors we have not considered. Doors maybe not related to spiders? This might be much more of a development than we think. That comment by Joe Noel, so long ago, about how Kim has other ideas he wants to pursue???
A: Huh? What are you reading? This does directly provide a method of getting spidersilk to market, which in turn means profit. It's going to mean "If" we can get there this will get us there in a faster manner than we were going previously.
Q:One question is what does Sigma get? Does the licensing agreement give them a %? or stock? or fees to be paid? or ??
A: Forgive me cause I've been up through the night ,but I do believe I read about Sigma now being a very large shareholder in KBLB. Fees haven't been specifically addressed but I'm sure are involved in regards to licensing.
I'm gonna stop posting as to not use them all up. Plus I know I'm getting tired and don't want to come off to snappy on my posts.
Go KBLB.
All this is my Opinion.
That just popped up on my Ameritrade too. Awesome statemtent.
I literally couldn't have said it better my self. lol
The precise gene targeting and high efficiency of Sigma’s ZFN technology allows KBLB to build on its revolutionary proof of concept research, by concomitantly targeting the insertion of spider silk genes into the silkworm genome while removing endogenous silkworm silk genes. The resulting transgenic silkworm is expected to be capable of spinning pure spider silk at commercially viable production levels.
So as to my previous statement. Proof of concept means the IF was broken in September, It's the When that's the roadblock now. When can they finish refining this and get it to market.
KBLB LONG.
I kind of see your point with that, but Gen 3 is being mentioned here (which is the biomed/last phase as far as I thought that this board talked about) and is already being negotiated on. So does that mean they skipped over Gen2? I think the bigger picture from this is that the question isn't if they get to Gen 2 or Gen 3. From all the data and information that's been laid out about their developement techniques and the overall science of whats going on (which is over my head...btw trying DD on Zinc Fingers and Sigma Bio research project/Sigma Aldrich at 5am is not recommended) it seems that IF isn't the problem. It's when. When is the only thing in their way. This company is a the key to making when a whole lot closer, so much so it's worth an agreement.
JMHO.
Go KBLB.
Level II is adjusting on news.
Fun watching it as it happens.
Yeah I can't sleep. lol
There should be some movement for sure today. Last really Big news was in September with a Press Conference at Notre Dame.
We also had a Shareholders Conference Call a bit after the PC and then a year end letter from the CEO in Dec. There had also been some additions to the -board of advisors- that capped off a couple months ago.
Todays news is an extreme close second to September's announcement IMO.
KBLB LONG!
It seems that Sigma granted a license that enables KBLB to use Sigmas technology in order to get KBLB's product to market faster.
So KBLB owns the product, but uses Sigmas license to refine it as part of the process. Just like KLabs has a license agreement for the DNA that it's using to engineer the silkworms from the University of Wyoming. So they pay license fees to have the tools and in part when they sell the final product but it's still their product. Thats how I read it.
So more collaberation to help get to the goal. This step is huge in the momentum for KBLB. This company is big, Greg you are definately right about that.
Excerpts (I cut a lot out to get to the point, fyi):
1. Sigma will provide Kraig with its proprietary genetic engineering tools and expertise ...
2. In addition to providing the customized tools and technological know-how, Sigma has granted Kraig an option for a commercial license to use the technology in the textile and biomedical markets...
3. Sigma has agreed that upon exercise of the option Kraig will have exclusive commercial rights to use Sigma ZFNs in conjunction with the insertion of more than two hundred proprietary spider silk sequences previously licensed by Kraig from a third party into the silkworm genome.
That third party is U Of Wyoming. I'm pretty certain of that.
It's Lewis' DNA sequence.
I also like how they already have the biomedical market lined in the option of commercial licensing.
Go KBLB!
Sigma-Aldrich and Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Successfully Negotiate License Agreement.
You beat me to it DeadCellShadix.
Welcome to the board.
For some reason I just couldnt sleep tonight.
Was going over the same old stuff ...and then bam News.
I can sleep now....
or can I?...lol
Go KBLB!
You can see how Dr. Fraser looks uncomfortable around the 10:00 mark right after Kim says "frankly, let me just". I'm pretty sure they had a script to stick to so that no sensitive information would be leaked. My guess is the note said something to the effect of "stick to the script". Aside from that, Fraser has the biggest grin on his face like a little kid on Christmas through the entire press conference. You can see he seems like he's trying very hard to hold back his joy.
KBLB LONG,
with a big smile.
It literally just popped up on Atrade. Thx for the reply.
The stock is not moving. My Ameritrade trade desk has no level II info, no last sale info either. It always has before. I wonder if MM's are going to move this down a tier to make it cheaper for them to throw shares around. It's the thing to do lateley.
Anyone else seeing this through their platform? Pinksheets.com shows a level II though.
Oh yeah forgot about that. Right after that Manshoon did an entry for Kraiglabs. Looks great.
Post #8141 and post #8489
Go KBLB.
I'd have to say I'm not going to miss those posts one bit.
lol. Couldn't help myself.
I will say it's possible for certain types of agreements to necessitate Patents/Trademarks finalized and in place before putting pen to paper. But I do side with Jimmy whereas I do not believe this is holding KLabs from disclosing anything. As to what reasons they remain "quiet"(as some view it) we can only continue to speculate and continue our DD.
I personally don't beleive they are being quiet at all. Maybe all the PR's from last year have overstimulated those who think that KBLB or Kim is being abusive in his so called lack of communications to shareholders. I offer,
Press conference given, Shareholders call, Year end summary with short term and long term goals outlined, trademarks(which were also PR'd) on track, Advisory Board assembling with great talent and strategy(also announced each time and IMO hasn't been valued into the current SP). Next we'll have a filing right around the corner. More disclosure to come.
This is huge, it needs time to work itself through. JMHO.
Go KBLB.
It's been a while since I looked at the trademark info.
Seems like it's almost through the entire process.
I would think they would PR something when the mark is fully registered and secured.
K.Labs patent info on MonsterSilk:
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=85144551
Info on publication of oppostion phase of patent process:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_time_period_for_trademark_application_published_for_opposition
Excerpt from second source:
Once published in the official gazette, potential opponents have thirty days in which to file either an opposition or a request for an extension of time for filing their opposition. There are other complex rules for some types of international applications.
If there is no opposition, or any opposition is overcome, the registration is issued within a month or two.
MonsterSilk was published for opposition on 03/22/11.
Go KBLB.
Right on. Hey manshoon, any info in regards to my earlier post?
About the Option that Klabs has sitting on the table. Is it still on the table? I would think if they exercised it I could find it under insider trades or they would have a filing about it.
Post 15840.
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I noticed the same thing. It's an ad tracker (low level virus).
I notice the K.labs official site has a virus too. Right when I go to their site my I.S. pops up with a note about it.
Another bug on their site is if you click on the picture on the financial statement page it brings up a report form their independent registered acounting firm.
Go KBLB.