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try try again mr kidd(bond movie) in this crazy world
yes, it was june 19, my june 9 was a typo
thanks for the work you are doing on the ibox
statistics say that ca 50% of marriages end in divorce-so those who are not married we can assume break up at even a higher rate-for reasons often imposed by society and unrealistic expectations -and when troubles are experienced such as the non stop mr murphy cwrn had to confront the figures are higher -breaking up is not a crime and has nothing to do w past mine events -so what is the relevance oh wizard
as i've said many times those who came before me here said they were married-i just assumed that those who said that were correct- i had no logical reason to question that-they we obviously together- i never asked bob as it was completely irrelevant
why dont u show the relevance of your continual impugning harassment of bob-one or some reported it was bc u had broken a contract w bob
honest reporters say apparently when ppl are trying to trip them up and dont have the docs to prove what they are saying and for legal reasons as if u didnt know
wheres dishonest ppl make up statements out of thin air without even saying apparently-e.g., that the kriton was sunk at sea w its load of ore,
that there was no mine,
that the mine was in british columbia,
or the mine was high sulphur-
w no explanation of why the 2nd-3rd largest steelmaker-bao- kept getting ore from cwrn
cwrn owned the mine and the ore-which is why cwrn successfully kicked geo out of the mine aug 2011-claiming in cwrns sept 2012 suit agist geo that geo misappropriated or withheld funds due cwrn from the shipments(necessary to keep production and ships rolling)-which geo did as original ship facilitator-so if geo was in such a position for the 1st ship it was on geo to see that the ship arrived on time
u know, some claimed for a long time that no mine even existed -what is the game now -still trying to change the past?? or something much more nefarious-which i wouldnt doubt
cwrn was a rare successful mining startup til the money boys allegedly, as per cwrns suit/complaint, withheld or misappropriated monies
proof of low sulphur has been provided many times but no proof of high sulphur has ever been shown - repeating a falsehood a thousand times doesnt make it true
dishonest twisting of what i said- the estimate as i said was based on the inventory cwrn had or expected in the 1st qtr multiplied by the then prevailing spot price
u cant hold cwrn responsible for subsequent decline in the price of iron ore-at the time cwrn made its estimate many analysts were predicting 200-250/ton by end of 2011
zn's 10q -like clockwork -was filed today (wasnt there this a.m.) like clockwork-every 10q lately on the 8th- one week before its due
surprised there havent been any questions yet
anticipating one question i will say the subseguent event section is only required to detail changes that will materially affect the financial statements-
and thats bc the financial statements are required to reflect results as of a static date in the past-the end of the preceding quarter-i.e.,sep 30-
10q's and 10k's respectively are not required for 45 and 90 days after end of qtr
and many penny stocks -officially anything under 5 dollars pps- are late in filing such - but not zn- zn has always been on time lately, if not always-and thus the reason for subsequent events that would materially affect the past financials
since exploration activities would not affect the financials as of sept 30,none have been reported as a subsequent event- and thats probably the safest course -given that all kinds of mutants are looking for one word out of place in this insane ''civilization'', where lawyers are taught,'forget childhood concepts of truth justice honor morality integrity, ethics- those things no longer exist- there is no truth justice honor...".
Well spoken re the legal system- but representing minds that are totally gone or controlled- one of the 1st power centers captured bc the legal system essentially has no accountability to external entities and defines its own parameters-reserving for itself the power to interpret things which it no longer understands- like the constitution
https://www.otcmarkets.com/filing/html?id=13051413&guid=n4CMUHgQ2MGbgyh
typo-cemex
as i've said over and over again they didnt know where the veins were for 1st ship bc they didnt acquire the 1st 68 drill holes info from cenex til after the 1st ship kriton which some claimed was destroyed at sea
so 1st ship had a combo of 58 and 62 as cwrn noted-rest were 62 or more since they then had the veins and the trommel
at this point, for campo to have any credibility he needs to explain what the problem/holdup is re the accounting issues
to say next week or 2 for over a year-and on a 3rd set of accountants- needs an explanation-something a reasonable person would understand
been explained over and over and over-the estimate was based on then prevailing prices of 175-190/ton for inventory
the highly customized mag separator was over a month late due to sub supplier problems
and the ship co changed ships on them so ship arrived over a month late
all companies provide hopeful estimates without accounting for mr murphy- this is very very well known-happens with every company i've looked at
from the june 9 PR,the following was their initial plan
“Management’s job is to provide long-term shareholder growth. Ultimately, that’s by finding and producing commercial amounts of oil and/or natural gas. Releasing partial or incomplete testing result information only drives short term speculation which is harmful to our long-term shareholders.
“Therefore, we will not be releasing any information, other than operational updates, until we have concluded the initial testing and analyzed the results of the primary targets at a minimum-[emphasis added].
they did experience logistical and mechanical and i would say packer related delays-much of which would not be unusual for a wildcat well-need to better source packers as i presume they have done now
in these situations its typical for ir to be bombarded and they were dealing w complications from the sec and shareholder suit situations-
so i imagine dustin was working really long hours
and then due to all the pressure by longs etc for news dustin did issue that aug 17 operational update- which was misunderstood by many and thus didnt solve the problems or provide the answers many wanted -a dam if u do dam if u dont situation
and ir noted multiple times they didnt know where all the misleading reports come from
and i think dustin wrote and issued that aug 17 update on the run while dealing w all these situations
so i think zn and ir wants to handle the news going forward more on their terms-
so its typical for companies and ir to reign in their reporting over time-very typical-rarely goes the other way-especially when they are watched by other groups which dont have zn's best interests at heart -
in fact its typical in such situations for company lawyers to put a gag order on the company so as not to complicate things
so given this 3 ring circus we have experienced zn has been very open so far
there is always a tension between any company and longs re reporting-longs essentially want a continual deluge of news-there is never enough for longs
companies are focused on getting the job done- and all the back and forth from longs and other groups plus complying w reporting requirements doesnt really support the process of getting the job done in the most efficient way possible
so given the above and the unexpected number of delays, i would expect them to follow their original reporting of results plan even more strongly,as noted above
by waiting to report results they can issue a more thoughtful and complete PR and forward prognosis
that is what i think is driving zn's timing re results-so i would not be worried
many have been told-including international ministries -that zn has a commercial field
as tisdal has pointed out its the job of a wildcat well to find the reservoir-not necessarily be a producing well
so in the march to a producing well that could be this well,if they are fortunate, or another well from the same pad directionally placed due to results from this well,or even another pad,all depending on the locating of the reservoir by this well
ZN HAS an accounting firm -as noted by the disclosure below just 2 days after announcement of withdrawal of previous firm
as tothe jokingly said bc the old firm wanted to be able to trade zn
since zn was closer than ever to a commercial field while simultaneously near an eleven year low
https://www.otcmarkets.com/filing/html?id=13005831&guid=TQtMUqYg0V_TuZh
good question-kyoil or some other oil expert or ryan or tisdal should answer that but i'll try stumbling around-
i havent seen any explanation in the articles i've read re the leviathon etc off shore gas fields in the mediterranean west of israel and syria except that there are fringe amounts of oil at perhaps different depths than the gas
i dont remember the analysis of this-if any- from the twilight in the desert book-but the saudis built huge gas plants geographically spaced usually not far from the big oil fields
so it does seem somewhat odd
in the usa and canada whenever they encountered gas they often just burned it off due to the low price of nat gas at the time to get to the oil but now nat gas and liquid transportation of such is becoming a hot commodity
different heat and source products resulted in oil vs gas-but how those are proximally related over time over geographic areas i dont know- as we've noted before there are no geologists here
but i like your thesis that perhaps the oil flowed further down the levant basin if oil flows like a river- dont know whether the geology supports that or not
https://www.ucsusa.org/clean-energy/coal-and-other-fossil-fuels/how-is-natural-gas-formed
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=13571
http://www.adventuresinenergy.org/What-are-Oil-and-Natural-Gas/How-Are-Oil-Natural-Gas-Formed.html
as i previously explained at length, that 5.3 million recently raised by zn would last 9 months at zn's spending rate for testing- so finances are not a problem
i have a feeling john brown in his travels to conferences is an excellent fundraiser
though its been around a longtime- support for israel- it is similar to the recent phenomena of social and ethical investing,where in crowd fundraising and otherwise ppl can choose investments which match their social/political etc outlook-to my knowledge those groups are not discriminatorily targeted bc of their beliefs
so its an almost endless source of funds,with a specific book supplementing and correlating 'real world'(limited to what blind eyes can see for some)geophysical dd.
sounds good- not sure some realize zn raised 5.3 million under what would be considered difficult circumstances at a difficult time of year for fundraising and that zn is continuing to test,as reflected by the following:
https://volumebot.com/?s=zn
u make some good points
plaintiffs have to change the court rules and statutes re notice to be successful- and that cannot be done retroactively bc zn like everybody else has relied on the current law re notice!!!!
cant hold zn to a futuristic standard which does not yet exist!!
and these chasers entire case relies on a tweet or incomplete screenshot of an sec reply to a foia request which does not say zn is under investigation-and even if it did that still would not be the required legal notice!!!-
the complaint keeps shamelessly imputing notice to zn before zn had legal notice
the incomplete screenshot shows the foia request denied due to possible enforcement proceedings, which could mean a lot of things,including
boilerplate
a wide net for wide range of purposes
including possible enforcement proceedings re one of zn's suppliers-e.g, the parent co of the sub that leased the drilling rig to zn has been going thru some kind of bankruptcy proceedings
or re an individual of a supplier or connected to zn
nobody is a mind reader and yet thats essentially what the complaint expects zn to have been
co's cant be expected to list every possible action against them
the mar 12 10k and the may 8 10q included typical boilerplate language for the situation
i dont remember whether either the screenshot or the tweet preceded the mar 12 10k-
the whole case -the so called misleading statements plaintiffs claim zn made that zn was not being investigated by the sec- hinges on the argument zn should have known they were being investigated-but they could not have known until the sec followed traditional legal notice protocol-which did not occur til june 21 i believe-the summer solstice
so either the judge would have to take a very activist role to make a monumental change in the court rules and codified legislative law re notice- something that only the scotus could do-and not on a backdated basis
or the judge would have to dismiss,unless new facts arise
at some point in the discovery process,i would expect zn to make a summary judgement motion to dismiss as a frivolous lawsuit,based on what i've seen so far
trial court judges dont make the kinds of radical departure from current law precedents plaintiffs desire,which is why plaintiffs are asking for a jury trial-to play on emotions-bring out a grandmother in a wheelchair e.g., but emotions cannot violate the current system wide law of legal notice
they originally wanted all zones tested before reporting operational results-as per june 19 pr etc- but ran into logistics and mechanical delays and slow turnaround times w packers etc and pressure to report
so they may wait for a while before reporting results
if nov 1 is still the right date for extension of work program may see an 8k re that
and 10q as you say ca nov 8-15
we were left hanging -not knowing whether they were going to follow up the deep zone w a larger acid stimulation or not-which would be the usual course, i would think, as the small acid job seemed to work well to dissolve or open up the soft dolomite and limestone concentrations in the area stimulated,which is otherwise dominated by hard rock with very few fractures
i think so bc twice they said they would resume oct 14 which was a sunday(once they said oct 15 but i think that was a mistake bc the oct 15 was preceded and superseded by the oct 14 date
daily short % remains in the usual 40-60% range-even higher sometimes
https://www.volumebot.com/?s=zn
thanks for keeping us informed,bubba
thanks for your earlier logistical guidance re the case
from the aug 16 pr they were concentrating on: "Have we swabbed enough completion fluid and formation fluid from zones 16,415-16,500 ft and 16,080 – 16,215 ft..."
Additional Testing is Needed to Evaluate Reservoir Potential
DALLAS and CAESAREA, Israel, August 16, 2018 – Zion Oil & Gas, Inc. (NASDAQ: ZN)announces that it is completing the initial testing program of its primary zones located within the Triassic-age Mohilla Formation of the Megiddo-Jezreel #1 (MJ #1) well.
Zion’s President and Chief Operations Officer, Dustin Guinn, makes the following statement concerning the MJ #1 well:
Zion has a sincere desire to be transparent in the details of our operations with our shareholders, for a number of reasons. Most of our shareholders share a passionate alignment with the vision of Zion that extends beyond financial success. We view our shareholders as partners in this journey, which has been difficult to say the least. As a result, this operations update will be longer and more detailed than most and will be subdivided to try to answer some of the most common questions.
Did We Find Oil?
We encountered oil at a depth of between 16,415 ft and 16,500 ft during drilling operations, when we circulated bottoms up. The oil was separated and tested internally and externally through our mudlogging company’s chromatograph, indicating “Light Oil” based on the chemical composition of the analyzed stream.
Third party petrophysical analysis of our open hole logs continues to suggest that oil is located in this zone as well as other zones of interest.
While testing the zone between 16,415 ft and 16,500 ft, we perforated the casing and performed a small acid stimulation job. Upon circulation of the acid out of the wellbore, minor amounts of oil were observed while taking small samples of the fluid being circulated out of the wellbore.
Following the circulation of the fluid after the stimulation job, we ran back in the hole and began to swab the well to attempt to see if the well would flow. As of the writing of this update, when swabbing, the data confirms the well artificially flows at a rate of approximately 90-110 barrels of fluid per day in the zone between 16,415 and 16,500 ft. We are still swabbing completion fluid as of this writing and the results of the well are inconclusive at this point as to whether the well will establish natural flow and what the volumetric contribution of oil and water will be.
We remain hopeful but do not yet know if there is producible oil in commercial quantities within our deep primary zones, and there are still many questions yet to be answered. However, we can say with reasonable confidence that the formation is tight with low permeability and has few natural fractures. This is not uncommon, and often times requires advanced stimulation techniques to help determine the well’s commercial potential.
Is the MJ #1 a Successful Well?
This is a question that can be answered in a number of ways:
In considering the success rate of wildcat wells, with little to no offset data, in our opinion the MJ #1 could be considered a geologic success as follows:
A very favorable Thermal Gradient has been shown to exist;
The MJ #1 has successfully demonstrated the existence of an active petroleum system. Oil has been encountered which we believe confirms that mature source rocks have expelled hydrocarbons that have migrated into a trap which was drilled by MJ #1; and
There are multiple identifiable targets and objectives that have been observed based on drilling, testing and petrophysical analysis, which we have yet to test.
Is the well commercially successful with the information that we currently have, as of the writing of this update, during the testing of the deepest zones of interest? The answer is no. The drilling and testing on this well was much more costly than we expected, and as of today cannot be considered commercially successful.
What Caused Delayed Testing Results?
Testing of the MJ #1 well has taken longer than anticipated for a number of reasons, some of which we wish to outline:
We made the decision to test this well only during daylight hours. Given that it was a wildcat well, we decided to only operate during daylight hours and emphasize safe operations over time and cost.
We continued to observe Shabbat, which limited testing operations from 7:00 am Sunday morning through 7:00 pm Friday evening.
In our opinion, the most impactful operational delay resulted from what appears to have been ineffective casing guns and charges, sourced locally in Israel and initially used to perforate all the zones. We purchased additional casing guns and charges from the United States at the commencement of testing, which fortunately, allowed us to re-perforate all the zones of interest to achieve injectivity and properly stimulate the well.
The primary zones we have been testing are all located at depths greater than 16,000 feet. Every time we had to run in the hole and out of the hole took, on average, four days.
Every time we wanted to isolate a particular zone to test, we had to install an isolation tool called a packer, which contains rubber elements. Due to the very high well temperature, these packers would only last, on average, approximately five days. When they failed, we had to pull the pipe out of the hole and replace the packer, which added, on average, four days.
What are the Future Plans?
We have gained a tremendous amount of geological knowledge, but there are still a lot of unresolved questions that need further evaluation:
Have we swabbed enough completion fluid and formation fluid from zones 16,415-16,500 ft and 16,080 – 16,215 ft to effectively allow for the formation to naturally flow, and will the encouragement of that natural flow, if established, allow for commercial amounts of oil to flow?
Drilling analysis and petrophysical analysis suggest that there may be more potential oil-bearing zones above the Triassic boundary, which was internally picked at approximately 15,175 ft. Zion chose to focus on the Triassic because of the regional success in Givot Olam’s Meged Field. Subject to raising adequate financial resources, of which no assurance can be provided, we plan to continue with testing of the multiple zones of interest higher in the well.
We know that the primary zones located within the Triassic-aged formations have proven to have low permeability and few natural fractures. If the questions above continue to provide answers that suggest producible oil, advanced stimulation techniques could be used to help create an environment of higher permeability and a fracture regime more conducive to commercial flow rates.
If answers to the foregoing questions above are positive, and we raise the needed financial resources, we plan to acquire additional focused seismic data to help guide potential field development and continue with Zion’s vision to help make Israel energy independent.
Management, along with all of our staff, want to sincerely thank you for your continued support. This mission has been one of the most difficult challenges we have undertaken, and we are not done yet. We also recognize that we are completely shareholder funded and as a result, this is your company. There is so much left to do, and it is an honor to represent our shareholders in this mission.
There will be more updates to come as we know there are many more questions regarding the administration and regulatory issues facing Zion that many of you have.
sorry =-yes you're right- they affirmed the trial court which allowed a malicious prosecution suit against the attorneys
i skipped over that and saw the last 1 line paragraph,which is why i replied w the following lead:
off the top of my head this is the problem w malicious prosecution:
"if a defendant was only doing what his or her attorney recommended , even though the lawsuit had no probable cause, then the defendant may not be guilty of malicious prosecution if she unreasonably, but mistakenly thought her lawsuit was legitimate
unless they were trained at oru law or regent law they wouldnt know what justice was:'forget childhood concepts of truth justice honor integrity morality-those things no longer exist. You are hitmen".
when oru opened a law school in 1979 they had to spend a million/yr just defending against attacks by the aba
so they turned the law school over to regent univ bc pat had the legal and political clout to withstand the aba
some good points
but the trial court was overruled on the malicious prosecution issue
"Was Zion Oil and their shareholders the recipient of a bias incident? A bias incident is an act of hostility motivated by racism, religious intolerance, or other prejudice."
yolande admits the reason she brought the complaint was due to the religious angle but then she says she herself is a religious person-which could mean almost anything nowadays
conspiracy to defraud zn and stockholders,either bc of bias against xtianity or not ,comes to mind,but the legal system is now deeply anti-christian and so is not likely to entertain such thoughts
i spent 20 years giving the legal system a time of visitation re these issues,and while i opened many lawyers eyes to the unprecedented fraud occurring against xtians by crafters controlling the legal system,not one person in the legal system nor church would stand w me-
its all about selfish rebellion-protecting number one-not wanting to get involved-defaulting the battle to the adversary without a fight or hiding their head in the sand thinking the adversary will not bother them if they just stay on the sidelines-plus not having the spiritual warfare tools to fight
the xtian lawyers are so afraid their faith will be discovered and thus be subject to sanction by the legal system just bc of their faith 'judges are involved'-of course they are- generally the more bad you are the higher up the ladder you go
"this is way over my head. I dont want to get involved. you take care of it". I've been fighting battles on behalf of others my entire life. they always say nobody else was either willing or able to help them. but after i solve their problems they always disappear,without even reimbursing me for expenses,and they fall away bc they dont have the strength required to live a victorious life
off the top of my head this is the problem w malicious prosecution:
"if a defendant was only doing what his or her attorney recommended , even though the lawsuit had no probable cause, then the defendant may not be guilty of malicious prosecution if she unreasonably, but mistakenly thought her lawsuit was legitimate."
the ambulance chaser lawyers should know a tweet or incomplete screenshot of denial of foia request on the basis of possible enforcement proceedings (which might not even involve zion) does not conceivably satisfy legal notice to zn of an sec investigation
and since ambulance chasers case relies on the presumption that zn should've known they were under investigation or had legal notice ,there is no case.
so its a matter of policing the lawyers as officers of the court -but the legal system is really lazy when it comes to those things-unless a lawyer is misappropriating client funds,there is very little policing
i know a crafter lawyer whose bizarre antics were known to the entire courthouse and whose abuses were newspaper fodder and who had been arrested at least once and he was frequently violating rules but nobody ever did anything about it-the entire system is given over to craft manipulation, having rejected the faith and thus constitution of the founding fathers,and so each person does what he pleases.
zn should ask for summary judgement and as part of that motion ask for costs and fees
lawyers regularly ask for fees to be reimbursed from the other party if they think they have any chance to obtain such
some lawyers are more aggressive than others
summary judgement and reimbursement for costs and fees is the usual remedy
i dont hear much about malicious prosecution- bc then you have to prove the other parties motives and intent,which is not easy,unless its a regular pattern where a judge has warned a party already
torts are are a comparatively nebulous area of the law,often hard to prove
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicious_prosecution
http://cha-ahse.org/store/pages/90/FRIVOLOUS-LAWSUITS.html
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/personal-...ocess.html
https://silicone.co.uk/news/temperatures-can-silicone-rubber-withstand/
'The first thing you will notice is that silicone doesn’t melt due to temperature alone!
For example, if heated up to 150°C you would see very little change in the silicone, even if held at this temperature for a very long time, At 200°C the silicone will slowly become harder and less stretchy with time, and if the silicone was heated up to a temperature beyond 300°C, you would quickly see the material become harder and less stretchy in a very short time, due to such extreme temperature conditions but it would not melt.
Special grades are available to further increase silicones already naturally high resistance to heat such as our silicone grade THT which can be used intermittently at temperatures up to 300°C."
so no doubt they have done a cost benefit analysis-packers can cost up to 500k as per one article i posted- to get the right packers for this job
probably right-we were left hanging re any further tests of the deep triassic-
dont know how long they achieved an artificial flow of 90-110 barrels/day with their small acid stimulation test to open up a small area of the structure-
but that seems like a healthy enough response-there being enough interstitial dolomite and limestone to allow for such a response and thus small fractures for fluids to flow-
to follow up w a larger acid test-just as they do in saudi arabia- nothing unusual about such testing in relatively impermeable reservoirs
hopefully they have sourced better packers so they get more than a 5 day packer life and dont have to make the 4 day round trip to extract and replace packers so often
one source i looked up said there were silicone rubber compounds able to withstand 150C for a long time and 200C for ?
56% clip
https://www.volumebot.com/?s=zn
shorting at a 20% clip last 20 days-not that unusual-expecting a continuous payout
when i click on the provided link i get a 404 page not found every time- is that what u were referencing tothe
if nobody has found and filed a lead plaintiff by oct 9-absent a judges after the fact extension-there is no case
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/final-deadline-alert-bronstein-gewirtz-153000690.html
they apparently are all begging for a lead plaintiff bc no body apparently has yet found a lead plaintiff and the deadline was oct 9
did anybody find and file a lead plaintiff by oct 9 ????
they can file all they want- just increases the chance the judge will find the lawsuit to be frivolous and award costs to zn when the firm cant even produce a named plaintiff
without a named plaintiff,there is no suit- in any other area of the law you have to actually have a client to file(who knew!!!!-idiots) -which shows how ridiculous this circus has been
and even if somebody found a named plaintiff-they have to change the court rules and statutes re notice to be successful- and that cannot be done retroactively bc zn like everybody else has relied on the current law re notice!!!!
cant hold zn to a futuristic standard which does not yet exist!!
and these chasers entire case relies on a tweet or incomplete screenshot of an sec reply to a foia request which does not say zn is under investigation-and even if it did that still would not be the required legal notice!!!- its just crazy
this is at least the 3rd time the schall firm has put out a pr-the last 2 begging for someone willing to be a named lead plaintiff
if i remember schall is based in la- but a suit has to be filed in texas bc thats zn's headquarters/domicile
the judge previously gave the only filed lawsuit a deadline to produce a a named plaintiff
that deadline-oct 9 =-has passed and i've heard nothing about a named plaintiff since -here they are begging for a plaintiff to come forward on the last day of the deadline- de facto admitting that the judges deadline to produce a plaintiff applies to the any other filed case -which filings would be consolidated by a judge if there were 2 or more filed cases w named plaintiff
notice that they dont give a case number or the full legal name of the case -so u cant look it up bc such is required to look up a fed case in the n dist of tx- which has a notoriously poor search function
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/final-deadline...00690.html
looks good to me buddy -would be a nice starter position
from the independent 3rd party report:
"The range of total estimated prospective recoverable oil volumes for Zion’s prospect in the four target horizons ranges from 20.7 million barrels to 234.6 million barrels of oil. The “best estimate” (P50 case) for recoverable oil in the Mid Cretaceous is 27.8 million barrels, Upper Jurassic is 18.3 million barrels, Mid Jurassic is 17.9 million barrels and Triassic is 5.7 million barrels for a total “best estimate” for recoverable hydrocarbons at 69.7 million barrels, if a discovery is made.'
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