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My JAG doesn't need washing BIFF....last time you didn't do so good.....find another rich dude to sponge off of....slacker
Why?....can you only afford 100 shares?
Don't buy today.....in a few days you might be able to get 200 shares....the broker fee is the same either way.....
That will be......$10.....Cash....not shares
PR's are not legal docs.....S-1's are
You VSPC SH's think you have all the rights....if this deal doesn't go through....even though the SEC gave every opp for you to sell(read the S-1)....grow up.....
Here's a news flash......there are other SH's......those that own shares of VGREF.....by contract VGREF owns IPA 100%......VSPC lost it's 59%........to Chang.....VSPC lost it's rights to GKG biz.....
A deal is a deal.....if VSPC gets anything....it will be peanuts
Chang now has a public company.....VSPC remains in tact.....VSPC owns IONFINITY and DMFCC....and yes....Chang owns a ton of shares.....so what?
VGREF owns IPA and GKG.....and VSPC is no longer a majority SH
Of course we can always chase rumors.....
More pumping here.....Chang owns VGREF....read the S-1......why would he accept under 50%......hay....wanna buy a bridge?
Pickin....how do you figure it ain't?......VSPC has NO news on the horizon....they keep kicking the can down the road....yep....the HORSE says....look for sub penny soon
Oh I know that WALL STREET tycoon....BIG d said......011 is the bottom.....but I think Thunder is rolling.....
Will I buy?......too soon to say.....this is one pathetic bunch running these 2 companies.....I still can't say if they are crooks......or just STUPID
Give it up.....the pps is headed down....my advice to you....double down
I'm not sure Chang has bolted......who the heck knows?....I think they are just stalling.....you mentioned the Q and A being released as a way to say something....without saying something.....
How long do they "keep negotiating" in order to keep SH's from a lawsuit?.....or at least be able to say they tried as hard as they could.....or the best thing for VSPC was not to dilute....
VSPC gives up it's VGREF shares....is that so bad with NO CONTRACTS?
Oh well....a few more weeks....and we still won't know
From the SEC Q and A......
Re: VIASPACE Green Energy, Inc.
Amendment No. 2 to Form S-1
Filed September 4, 2009
File No. 333-159717
The SEC question......
1. We note your response to comment one from our letter dated August 21, 2009 and your disclosure on page eight that in the event the second closing does not occur, Mr. Chang will retain the shares of VIASPACE Green Energy Inc. only if the conditions to VIASPACE Inc.'s closing obligations have been satisfied. As we previously noted, if there are unsatisfied conditions to the issuance of shares being registered on this registration statement, the private placement of shares between the company and selling shareholders has not been completed and this registration statement cannot be declared effective.
Response: We have revised the amendment to the Stock Purchase Agreement to provide that Chang will retain his shares; provided that as the Staff had indicated, the shares may be subject to cancellation if the registration statement is not declared effective.
As T9F has posted on more than one occasion.....VGREF has been declared effective....VSPC owns 59% only if they close.....
If the Second Closing does not take place by the Second Closing Deadline, then alternatively, the following will occur:
· Chang and/or his designees shall retain our Shares;
· VIASPACE shall transfer all shares of our common stock it holds to Chang;
· Chang will deliver the remaining 30% equity interest of IPA-BVI to us, such that we shall receive all equity securities of IPA-BVI, and
Our common stock is....the 59%
here's the real question.....why did VSPC NOT get exempted....but CARL did?.....
In addition, the parties clarified that the three year non-competition clause to engage in the grass business starting from the date of the First Closing does not apply to VGE and Messrs. Kukkonen and Muzi, but only to VIASPACE and its other affiliates. Further, we deleted the obligation of Licensor to assign the grass license to VGE.
GLTA
T9F...word up?....bring it on boys/girls
This is a softball....don't accept the premise that T9 is right.....but we got nothing else to do....VSPC ain't closing today.....VGREF ain't trading today....and bugle boy is in a good mood.....
The thing you want to remember....VGREF trading has nothing to do with the 2nd closing.....the SEC Q and A dealt with that....if any of you actually read it.....glt.....me
Jan(bugle boy) has motives......from AOL finance
Insider Transactions: VSPC
.Date Insider Type Ownership Market Value Shares Price range Total Holdings
02/10/10 VANDERSANDE JAN W, Divisional Officer Planned Sale — $2,720.00 160,000 $— - $— —
01/14/10 VANDERSANDE JAN W, Divisional Officer Planned Sale — $2,626.90 119,403 $— - $— —
12/16/09 VANDERSANDE JAN W, Divisional Officer Planned Sale — $2,152.09 95,238 $— - $— —
He wants to eat.....
Josh you and Rodman posted back in DEC that the reason there was NO live trial with DP was because DP didn't want the word to get out about GKG.....and the vibe you two got from bugle boy was that a DP deal was imminent.....give it a rest will ya......Jan wants to eat and live indoors like the rest of us
your conversations with him have proven very unreliable.....as VSPC continues to fall....you have called this the most transparent company.....you've pumped and pumped....yet you post I'm one of the reasons the pps is going down....maybe you are.....
You keep the expectations up for VSPC.....drinking the kool-aid....and Carl never delivers
Jan is paid to be upbeat.....and he relies upon selling shares to eat and live indoors.....I guess the flying trumpets aren't paying off anymore......
You have a right to pump as much as anyone.....but when has a call with Jan lead to anything significant happening?
Why not ask bugle boy the reason for Carl getting exempted from the non-competitive clause....and not VSPC...let's see if he gets a little testy then.....or will that be something he can't discuss.....because of negotiations?
Don't let the pumpers discourage you....jaru....22
tell it....
I bet you talked to bugle boy....he was pumped......real hush hush.....are you going to tell us.....negotiations are ongoing?......whoa...this is HUGE......VSPC.....might stay above a penny.......BIG d must have known this was coming......buy at .011.....
Any pr....would be above average....when's the last time they released one?...yeah...I'll take .009
BIG d is calling the bottom.....011.....no selling pressure....BUT.......just enough though to get it to .011.....
Who the heck knows....with this POS company
Good luck d
I wouldn't either.....it's only money.....
GLT....me
The right pr.....we run past a nickel.....
longshot....yes.....possible....yes.....imbo
Great post pickin'....8K due....last Monday...
because of the holiday....lol
Short term as well...imbo.....CC's and other projects are popping up all over SL.....OAMOT....oh yeah...AU as well
Now that's a great post...imho
VSPC doesn't own IPA....VGREF does....100%
Great question....and a point some tried to make prior to the 2nd.....NON closing....
Now the arguement was....IPA will generate a cash flow.....let's overpay by $12 million for IPA.....we will get into the GKG biz........then the rev's for IPA drop.....then the 2nd closing doesn't occur....and VSPC is no longer in the GKG biz.....GREAT buy Carl...oh wait....CARL is exempt....but not VSPC
All that you seem to get with VSPC....is more questions....you surely don't get answers
Why would I send you a PM?......I post for the world to see.....I'm just trying to give the other side....you know....the one you IGNORE
Now I have chang(ed) my sentiment to hold....even though with todays pr.....a penny could happen this week.....maybe yes maybe no.....still I say hold.....if you can....
There will be a contract of some sort announced....before there is a closing....Carl and Chang are stalling.......OR
They will just sit this one out as long as they have too....in order to tell a JUDGE....your honor....we tried...we really tried.....we just couldn't come to terms....we wanted the best for VSPC SH's.......
Who knows with this bunch.....but I do say this....if you see a pop in pps....say .03....get out of dodge...these boys can't be trusted....with yo money
IMBHO
What money..VSPC has NO money....The main reason Chang hung around was to get VGREF listed....since then....NOTHING has happened.....except negotiations continue
Do you think he thought VSPC has $5.5 million dollars....in stok that's over 300 million shares.....(check me on that)
This is a stall game....maybe a contract is coming...who knows.....but Chang is looking out for Chang....not you....imho
SGCP plants rice under a CC agreement....sells the rice husk to a biofuel company...
I know....baby food is NOT very foward thinking....selling rice as the result of a CC agreement....for biofuel....oh yeah
That shows the potential SGCP has a company.....
You guys are looking at an OLD GKG presentation.....look at the date.....
BTW....VSPC is no longer in the GKG biz......unless Chang does a 180......
of course....there's always hope
Now that's foward thinking.....plant rice under a CC agreement....develop a biofuel from the husk......
I hope we see some more manipulation this week of the pps of SGCP..... lots and lots of GOOD money made that way.....I've made a ton off manipulation.....it's how Wall Street works
SGCP has some good news coming this week....my sources say
Not sure when it will hit the market with news.....but should be soon enough.....
Will there be manipulation?....will sellers be bidding?.....and buyers asking?.....I'm NEW at this...just as Cork....and TradeForFood.....I bet he goes hungry....imho
Keep on posting.....Cork has taught you well....
the bid....what a buyer is willing to pay
the ask....what a seller is willing to sell
the buyer doesn't raise the ask....the buyer raises HIS BID....
or....the seller lowers HIS ASK.....for a trade to occur
when the pps is going up....the seller(s) is raising his ask...and the buyer(s) is raising his bid
It's like selling a house....the seller has an asking price...the buyer usually places a bid....at a lower price
Of course it could all be different on L2.....or if there is manipulation....right?
Why does a seller never raise the ask?.....and why would a buyer raise the ask?.....imagine
Hey I see you are willing to sell 1000 shares at $20.50....well I don't want to pay $20.50....I want to pay $20.60...you guys are awesome....
Must be all that experience......did the cork teach you that?
Well I guess that proves it.....and I thought it was just sellers raising the ask.....and buyers raising the bids....boy do I feel.......unexperienced
and thx for the link....good one
G....I don't do PM's.....reading is fundamental....and so is writing....and I don't know what in the Wide Wide World of Sports you were trying to say about SGCP....post it publicly....please
It can only be misleading if it doesn't state that it was from last year....it did.....you can only be mislead if you don't read an entire post.....which you seem to have a problem doing.....
Keep at it long enough....you'll get the hang of it.....
As far as being the sole possessor of TRUTH....no you never claim it......you just claimed I didn't have enough experience to know the truth....that was something only you with all those years of trading experience.....which according to you I lack.....could understand......now who has the ego here?......and who's getting a little testy about the run up.....which you have no proof was manipulated.....but your years of experience taught you that's what it must be......
I believe you have experience ......getting your clock cleaned....and that's why seem to be bitter..... you post things like "the ugly side of Wall Street"......instead of the ugly side of people.....manipulation in the market can happen in a living room in St. Louis....but I guess you already knew that.....what with your experience and all....losing money
Would be nice to see some great discussion about SGCP....instead of conspiracy theories.....or your years of experience
If you read his response you would see how he has trouble reading and correctly understanding what people post....
He first replied to me about fundamentals of this stock....I never brought it up.....
He jumped a poster about last years field report....saying the poster was being untruthful in posting last years report....when at the end of the post the poster mentioned it was last years report....and was looking for this years field report
Don't get me wrong....Cork has every right to post here as anyone....as long as IHUB wishes to allow......but Cork sees Capitalism one way......and some of us see it another......
Capitalism or Wall Street doesn't have an ugly side as he likes to post......people are evil on Wall Street and everywhere......he wishes to post about Wall Street with a broad brush....and that's why he is quick to respond....and slow to read......especially my post
Capitalism is a beautiful thing.......winners and losers.....let's leave the motives to GOD....and not try to play GOD.....of course this is all my brillantly humble opinion....
SGCP is a great stock to "play"....a great way to make money.....it has it's up and downs....it's also a great long term investment as well......glt....me
I never said that "elitist" was a failure to recognize your points about the rise in pps.....it's "elitist" to claim that only you know the truth....and that I haven't been trading long enough to know how Wall Street works....therefore I don't know what I'm talking about....how do you know how long I've been trading?.....
A little more careful reading of my post might help....because you are responding to things I didn't post about the rise in pps....I saw you do that when someone posted about last years field report....at the end of the post they mentioned it was last years field report.....yet you obviously didn't read the entire post....and responded "QUICKLY".....suggested they were being untruthful.......when in fact you had not read the entire post.....nor have you read mine correctly....
So let's cool it on the "you know how Wall Street works".....and try to read peeps post correctly....and cool it with the "elitist" attitude......if you are going to continue to misrepresent post......
btw....if you aren't getting in and out on these spikes and falls....then you aren't a trader....you are an investor.....some people call it capitalism......nothing ugly about it
It said suitablity when the said they were going to do a live trail......Carl didn't grow enough grass....remember VSPC was to provide 300 tons of biomass per day....that never happened...
Isn't it time for another another harvest?.....why couldn't they have got an extension until now to do the live trial?....and why didn't they mention anything?....maybe they still have a MOU with DP.....but we wouldn't know......they don't tell us anything....
BTW.....unless Chang works something out.....VSPC is out of the GKG biz until the OCT of 2011......DP will be dealing with VGREF
So the ask didn't rise.....and buyers didn't come in at a higher price?......it was all a scheme....
Seems elitist to suggest......"your years of trading have opened your eyes".....like I've been posting.....
Capitalism has winners and losers......conspiracies always have "a few in the inner circle"....that know the TRUTH......and how things really work.....the rest of us are just pawns
CDM Bazaar mentioning a Green Giant sale was just a mirage......that couldn't of had an effect on pps.....why don't you do the world a favor and write a book.....and you can teach us all......based on your years of trading.....how capitalism does really work.....since you think my sentiment is laudable....
btw....I didn't mention transparency and fundamentals as a reason for the rise in pps.....pls keep responses in context....especially if you are going to suggest borderline criminal activity may have occured....and claim the moral high road.....
The run up from a couple days ago shows that a CC take this puppy up quickly.....imbo
some suggest SGCP got played......
SGCP got bought and sold in a free market....the asking price rose...and buyers bought....it happens everyday....and there is nothing illegal about it....
SGCP will explode with a CC contract....imbo....and I bet there will be an org or two......ready to play
2 sides to CAPITALISM....winners and losers....we all get to be both......sometimes
GLT....me
You've been a SH longer than me...I like the CC's....which will lead to a HUGE GOLD COMPANY.....someday....imbo....and a diamond here or there doesn't hurt.....all my opinion
What I was posting was how trigger happy some are....that claim they have to TRUTH about SGCP....and all others be wrong....
SGCP went up....based on the market....imbo....and that's a fact....if someone keeps hitting the ask....and the ask keeps going up....the pps follows
Some suggested some org played the stock....and offered no proof.....the proof is in the trades.....pps went up.....based on a free market...it doesn't matter who was buying, playing, or selling....if it was illegal...the feds can look into it...you can go to SEC.GOV and make a complaint.....
Green Giant gets a mention in CDM Bazaar....maybe a little spec play....oh no....it had to be a broken rule.....LOL
Hope that ASK keeps getting slapped on your behalf....and....glt....me
too many people here claim to know the truth about SGCP pps ups and down....and never post that's it's their opinion
They claim that orgs are playing pps.....but offer no proof....just opinion.....they are a dime a dozen....but they have a right to be here......even if it's comical
glt.....me
The 8K is one question...but why another delay?....even on a filing......if one is neccessary....
Where are the contracts?.....DP...real hush hush....
Josh said by Tuesday things would be clearer....it's Thursday....
Pumpers have been saying OAMOT......for a long time.....VSPC is so transparent......
They have a LIVE person in IR....referring to bugle boy....who claims to speak with the dead.....and has been selling $2k plus a month for the last 3 months......probably to eat with....which is OK.....but Carl said VSPC would be profitable by the end of last year....why is bugle boy having to sell shares to eat, if VSPC is profitable?
You pumpers know who you are....my cred has been questioned numerous times.....that's ok....but I've been more right than you pumpers.....
Right now I'm NEUTRAL on pps.....waiting to see what happens....or doesn't....I've posted with the right deal....VSPC could hit a nickel.....it could tank to about half a penny....you know it and I know it....
But cut out the Horse_ship.....VSPC ain't saying SQUAT....and they haven't lived up to expectations in recent months.....no live trial....VGREF not trading....no second closing.....and no CONTRACTS....if you believe in the techs that's fine....I've never posted anything negative about DMFCC of IONFINITY....which VSPC owns....VSPC doesn't own any VGREF.....since the deadline past.....and only if Chang allows....will VSPC own any GKG or IPA....that's NOT a bash...those are facts.....
Now some of you need to back off the pumping crap....it's getting old....with NO news....
Now....VSPC is at or near bottom....imho.....let's find out what in the Wide Wide World of Sports is going on....time this thing....and make some MONEY.....together
Peace out....still got about 2 more freakin' weeks in The Villages, Fl.....we all got to be somewhere