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Shows how much you guys/gals know.....first justarookie post....an email from bugle boy.....
Posted by: justarookie Date: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:11:35 PM
In reply to: None Post # of 7461
Just thought I would share the email that I received from Dr. Jan today...
VSPC currently owns 59% of VGREF and will own 59% of VGREF after the final
closing (we still have a final payment to make in the acquisition). So there
is no change. VGREF contains the grass and IPA businesses.
Regards
Then T9 responds.....
Posted by: tommy 9 fingers Date: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:47:03 PM
In reply to: justarookie who wrote msg# 7119 Post # of 7461
So which one is it currently owns or will own 59% it can't be both. you can't us future and past tense in defining your ownership in the same sentence without it coming across as bull.
If it currently owns there is no need to "will own" it is already owned or it isn't.
If can put that in a e-mail then he needs to put it in a PR.
Technically Changs owns about 9/10's of VGE....read the S-1.....
his wife, kids, and cousins own the rest....as of 2/15.....
Now I ask you....like I ask bugle boy......IF THERE IS NO SECOND CLOSING....then does VSPC still own 59%?.......
Glad you didn't need any help with that....
As far as your friends....you know....the one with the imaginary friend(and that can't spell)....and the other one.....that can't read......
PLS explain the current pps of VSPC.....or why it was a great idea to overpay by millions for IPA.....you know.....something relevant.........WALL STREET PLAYA's
Now pickin.....I've cleaned your clock so many times before......yet you keep coming back.....like Forrest's mom use to say...."stupid is as stupid does".....oh now I'm quoting one of Siader's friends......Run Pickin' Run......
Oh I know I haven't......you guys/gals are so SMART.....VSPC is down over 25% this year......what more could you guys/gals learn?
Apparently your girl.....justarookie needs help....like T9F ask her...."how do you own"...."and how will you own"....in an email from Jan......it can't be both......unless you like Kool-aid....
Jan pours......you drink.......
grape or red?
Well....who were you talking about?.....
Post it....c'mon....and the link too.....post it Siader....post it......
Is it an imaginary friend you have?.....is that where you get comfort?.....Do you always spell your imaginary friends name.....RIGHT?.....
Does he/she help you with your post?.....Does he/she help with those BIG WORDS?.......Does he/she play basketball with you?.....
Is he/she a HUGE VSPC SH?......
Can you post who he/she is?......
Where did you get your info?....a Message Board.....
real savy.......$96 million.....lol
Good point.....but don't they have a few days?
More than Mickey D's...LOL....billions and billions served
I think we broke the f'ing share counter....Scottrade at one point was over 3 bil....then rebooted back to 1.2 bil later.....who the heck knows?.....what a day.....good luck
With NEWS like that....one would think you would provide a link......
Question?.....do you need my confirmation?....do you need me to support you?.....are you needy?.....would you feel better if I came out and said what a great buy VSPC is?.....are you insecure about your....LOL....investment?
Do you wish you had sold at .03........do you wish you could read.....a S-1?.......are the words too big?....I noticed you couldn't even spell HORSE.....did you ever play basketball?
It's ok......for some reason....VSPC has a way of attracting folks like you......
Ha Ha Ha....it's going down because of a MB....ha ha ha.....priceless
Bugle boy vs. HORSE.....yep....I won.....
Dr. Vandersande
It's been posted on various message board that you are responding to emails and saying that VSPC owns 59% of Viaspace Green Energy. How can it be that VSPC owns 59% of VGREF if the second closing did not occur?
The S-1 says that if the second closing does not occur, by 2/15, that Chang retains all of VSPC 's shares. I know that VSPC is saying that negotiations continue, but 2/15 has long since passed. I know that you can see anything posted on MB's, and you shouldn't believe anything without verifying, but it seemed legit. Pls advise.
Thx
xxxxx Horse
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:58 PM, vandersande <vandersande@viaspace.com> wrote:
We own 59% and we are in negotiations to complete the deal. We are confident we will. The 2/15 date passing is irrelevant since both parties agreed to continue negotiating.
Dr. Vandersande
Do I understand you to say that even if the negotiations fail, and VSPC does not complete the deal, VSPC will still own 59%? Thx for your response.
xxxxx Horse
We will own 59% when the negotiations are completed. Obviously if the deal does not go through then we will not own any part of VGE. We are very confident that the deal will be closed.
Now.....anyone that post VSPC owns 59% of VGE......is full of it.....just like Jan.....
You don't own the car....if you are still negotiating with the dealer......You don't the your house....just because you put down earnest money.......
T9F....you were right when you responded to justarookie a few weeks back....."you can't own"......"and will own"....at the same time.....like bugle boy said in his email to her......either you do....or you don't.....
By contract.....Chang owns the majority of VGE.....any offer he makes.....will be one VSPC will have to step up to the plate to complete....
REMEMBER....Chang is looking out for Chang.....not VSPC
Scottrade as well.....
0.0006/5000
Bid/Size (PQ)
0.0007/10000
Ask/Size (PQ)
0.00
Price Open
0.0006
Previous Close
0.00
Day High
0.00
Day Low
--
Beta (5yr)
0.03/4/27/09
52wk High/Date
0.0001/2/23/10
52wk Low/Date
847.5 Thousand
Market Capitalization
1.4 Billion
Shares Outstanding
All I care about....is the pps buyout.....glt......ME
Funny....someone told me to look at post last week on this board....that's where I can get the facts........on a MESSAGE BOARD....lol....
Think I'll just wait until the company announces the buyout pps.......about all the facts I need there.....
From the filing....
Carl Kukkonen (1) 5,100,000 59.3 % 59.3 %
Sung Chang (2) 1,806,000 21.0 % 16.8 %
Carl's shares.....are/were your shares....this makes 80.3%....now look at his family......and Green Solutions....
Name of Selling Shareholder Number of
Shares Owned
Before
Offering Number of
Shares
Offered in this
Offering Number of
Shares Owned
After Offering(1) Percentage
Owned
After
Offering(1)
Sung Hsien Chang (2) 530,000 106,000 424,000 4.9 % Green Solutions Group Limited (3) 526,000 105,200 420,800 4.9 % Wen Liang Chang (4) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 %
Yin Chia Yang Chang (5) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 % Sung Kao Chang (6) 40,000 30,000 10,000 0.1 % Yu Yin Chang (7) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 % Shun Yin Chang (7) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 % Sung Hung Chang (6) 60,000 30,000 30,000 0.3 % Hsiu Fen Su (8) 350,000 70,000 280,000 3.3 % Chun Hao Chang (9) 200,000 40,000 160,000 1.9 % Jay Chang (9) 200,000 40,000 160,000 1.9 % Chung Hsin Lin (10) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 %
Yin Ju Chang (11) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 %
Chan Sheng Lin (7) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 % Chan Kuan Lin(7) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 %
Tzu Ching Lin(7) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 % Chan Chun Lin(7) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 % Chih Wei Chang (12) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 % Ting Wei Chang(12) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 % Ya Hui Chang(12) 10,000 10,000 0 0.0 % Ko Hsin Yang(12) 10,000 10,000 0 0.
Now look at who these folks are.....
1) Assumes that all shares will be resold by the selling shareholders after this offering. However, the selling shareholders have no obligation to sell all registered shares.
RULE 144.......just a twist.....from the filing
The selling shareholders may also sell shares under Rule 144 under the Securities Act, if available, rather than under this prospectus.
What Does Rule 144A Mean?
A Securities & Exchange Commission rule modifying a two-year holding period requirement on privately placed securities to permit qualified institutional buyers to trade these positions among themselves. Investopedia explains Rule 144A
This has substantially increased the liquidity of the securities affected because institutions can trade these securities amongst themselves, side-stepping limitations that are imposed to protect the public.
(2) Mr. Sung Hsien Chang is the President of VGE
(3) The natural person with voting and dispositive powers for Green Solutions Group Limited is Hsiu Fen Su, the wife of Sung Hsien Chang. Mr. Sung Hsien Chang has a minority interest in Green Solutions Group Limited.
(4) Shareholder is the father of Mr. Sung Hsien Chang.
(5) Shareholder is the mother of Mr. Sung Hsien Chang.
(6) Shareholder is the brother of Mr. Sung Hsien Chang.
(7) Shareholder is the nephew of Mr. Sung Hsien Chang.
(8) Shareholder is the wife of Mr. Sung Hsien Chang.
(9) Shareholder is the son of Mr. Sung Hsien Chang.
(10) Shareholder is the sister-in-law of Mr. Sung Hsien Chang.
(11) Shareholder is the sister of Mr. Sung Hsien Chang.
(12) Shareholder is the cousin of Mr. Sung Hsien Chang.
(13) Shareholder is also known as Maclean Wang, and is an employee of the Company.
Now if you add all this up......ROD(my)MAN.....you have well over 92%......Now you can suggest that it's scare tactics......but it's more info than you gave when you posted that DP wanted to keep GKG........real hush hush....
I know you are angry....and I know Josh is in hiding....that's OK....I'm not going anywhere....but if you 2 would like to come clean....and apologize for PUMPING....when you didn't have the facts....fine with me....otherwise....I think you have lost all cred as far as I'm concerned....
That doesn't mean that some posters on this board that like Kool-aid....want come to your defense....I'm OK with that as well.....we know who's been right on with VSPC.......it ain't been you 2......
Bring it on.......
I don't have top wait on a reply....in fact I doubt I'll get one....why don't you try?....see if bugle boy responds.....I'm ok with that.....
I'm no lawyer....but I've bought and sold tons of properties......IN CONSTRUCTION.....and extensions meant you needed more time to close, but were still in compliance.......negotiations have nothing to do with closings......this thing is 250 plus days over due.....VSPC had a legal leg to stand on....as long as they had an extension....when the deadline past on 2/15....so did VSPC's leverage.....they can negotiate til JESUS comes back....it means nothing.....LEGALLY
Chang was looking at a $20 plus million payday....and he didn't get it.....and you guys/gals think he will just let that slide....oh....NO PROBLEM.....
Chang is willing to stall for a reason.....he doesn't want the SEC up his rear end....he owns 92% of VGREF as of 2/16....he can always say with CARL....we tried to work things out....we just couldn't come to an agreement....SORRY....he may give VSPC a few shares....but according to the contract....he don't have to do SQUAT......
Don't be so guilible....McFly......
T9....I forgot about that....but I'm sure it was all on the up and up....everyone here trust bugle boy.....
Honestly T9....if there was a video of Carl telling Jan.....let's screw the SH's.....peeps here would claim it was a sham.....even if Carl and Jan admitted in a court of LAW....that they were guilty.....
You err in your analysis....from the filing....it's with China Gate and IPA.....not Chang....and not VSPC....nice try though Bruce......
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
December 31, 2009
ORDER GRANTING CONFIDENTIAL TREATMENT
UNDER THE SECURITIES ACT OF 1933
VIASPACE Green Energy, Inc.
File No. 333-159717 - CF#24258
_____________________
VIASPACE Green Energy, Inc. submitted an application under Rule 406 requesting confidential treatment for information it excluded from the Exhibits to a Form S-1 registration statement filed on June 3, 2009, as amended.
Based on representations by VIASPACE Green Energy, Inc. that this information qualifies as confidential commercial or financial information under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. 552(b)(4), the Division of Corporation Finance has determined not to publicly disclose it. Accordingly, excluded information from the following exhibit will not be released to the public for the time period specified:
Exhibit 10.7 through November 2, 2013For the Commission, by the Division of Corporation Finance, pursuant to delegated authority:
Kathleen Krebs
Special Counsel
VSPC dragged their feet here as well....the SEC had questions....
1. We have not yet received your request for confidential treatment with respect to Exhibit 10.7 to your registration statement. Please tell us when you intend to file this request.
Response: We filed this on November 3, 2009.
EX-10.7 2 viaspace_s1a1-ex1007.htm AGREEMENT BETWEEN IPA CHINA AND CHINA GATE TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD. Exhibit 10.7
Agreement
CHINA GATE TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD (hereinafter, known as "Party A") and Guangzhou IPA (hereinafter, known as "Party B") hereby establish this agreement to jointly explore the market of Giant King Grass, Elephant Grass and Purple King Grass. In Guangdong Province, Party A shall not provide more than 20,000 units of above grass seedlings to any other clients. Party A will pass large clients (who may need more than 20,000 units of above grass seedlings) to Party B. Party B will be responsible to supply the large clients, so as to ensure Party B’s interests within Guangdong Province.
Party B shall order 1,000,000 units of above seedlings. The detail (volume and price) will be determined later based on the agreement of the two parties. After this agreement is signed, Party A shall provide sufficient technical support to Party B to plant the above grasses in Party B’s land. Party B shall start to lease the land and to prepare the plantation work.
In addition, the North American market (cooperation in the U.S. and Canada) should work in the same way. Party A shall not develop this market directly; Party B shall provide technical support and seedlings according to the market planning. Any Party shall not ask the other party to compensate the expense arised therefrom.
Notes:
1. Unit Price: *** RMB/Unit of Seedling
2. 30% Elephant Grass, 70% Giant King Grass. (5,000 units of Purple King Grass seedlings will be offered as bonus).
3. 1 section = 1 unit of seedling. Fee charge for Party A’s technical staff: 280RMB/day.
4. This agreement will be effective when 50,000 RMB deposit is paid to Party A from Party B.
5. The goods will be divided into 3 to 5 deliveries. Pay on each delivery.
6. Party A’s account number: ***. Account name: ***. (This account number is regarded as Party A’s company account number).
7. The seedlings will arrive at Party B’s land by November 11, 2008.
8. Party B will pay for the delivery of seedlings.
*** This material has been omitted pursuant to a request for confidential treatment and filed separately with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Party A
CHINA GATE TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD
RM 51, 5TH FLOOR, BRITANNIA HOUSE,
JALAN CATOR, BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN
BS 8811, NEGARA BRUNEI DARUSSALAM
Party B
GUANGZHOU IPA
Oh....btw....now that the deal has expired....no matter what bugle boy says......the CT order is null and void as well.....
Chang is a HUGE VSPC SH....his interest is your interest.....his thoughts are your thoughts....he has NO interest in hurting VSPC SH value.....he has your best interest at heart.....
If VSPC pps tanks....it hurts Chang........QUESTION.....
When bugle boys says LAWYERS......are one of those lawyers yours?.....we know Carl would have a lawyer advising him.....Chang as well.....what about you?.....is your lawyer there?......
Now I've heard that we can trust Chang....Carl.....bugle boy.......but lawyers?......you guys are reaching....
How's that Kool-aid?......grape or red?
Oh yeah.....no extension.....no contract.....
No contract....no leverage....
I sent bugle boy an email as well.....it get's to the HEART of the matter.....
Dr. Vandersande
It's been posted on various message board that you are responding to emails and saying that VSPC owns 59% of Viaspace Green Energy. How can it be that VSPC owns 59% of VGREF if the second closing did not occur?
The S-1 says that if the second closing does not occur, by 2/15, that Chang retains all of VSPC 's shares. I know that VSPC is saying that negotiations continue, but 2/15 has long since passed. I know that you can see anything posted on MB's, and you shouldn't believe anything without verifying, but it seemed legit. Pls advise.
Thx
xxxxx
Let's see how he responds....and what the powers that be might have to say about his claims of ownership.....
Looks like....some PAID pumpers to me......
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Broker fee?.....I know it's a little high.....but he can afford it....imho
I was only speculating on the 11 cent....new 52 week high for VSPC......I'm sorry if you thought someone buying VSPC at the new 52 week high was OT.....my aplologies
It was VUK....he had $fittyK to throw down.....he might have added $5k more.....new 52 week high....congrats
Well........Carl's been busy
Insider Transactions: VSPC
.Date Insider Type Ownership Market Value Shares Price range Total Holdings
02/24/10 ABDALLAT AMJAD SALEH, Director Planned Sale — $81,753.00 5.27 M $— - $— —
02/24/10 KUKKONEN CARL ALLAN, Chief Executive Officer Planned Sale — $54,961.00 4.58 M $— - $— —
02/10/10 VANDERSANDE JAN W, Divisional Officer Planned Sale — $2,720.00 160,000 $— - $— —
He must know that Chang wants to deal......
nice volume today....
Do you have a link....I used Scottrade.....I know they are not always accurate.....thx
Uninformed longs is what you are seeing....they actually think Chang is still negotiating with VSPC.....lol
VSPC failed to close......period
VSPC longs are looking for GRACE and MERCY from Chang.....we shall see......
This thing continues much longer....the SEC will be in touch with VSPC......
Anyone seen that 8K?....
What is the correct data?.....thx
Isn't the market cap at around 1 mil?......that would be a .07 buyout, right?.....my thoughts are $15-$25 mil tops.....that's abot the 1-2 cent range.....still a nice offer....
Will be watching....and probably buying...glta
What does GKG have to do with VSPC?....you need to post on the VGREF board.....VGREF is in the GKG biz....VSPC is in the fluff pr biz ....they couldn't fulfill a MOU......
Ok....the week is over NOW....so Josh was right....according to you.....NO news is good news....I guess we will see a new 52 week high on Monday......cause VSPC has been releasing GOOD news....by releasing NO news....for weeks now
Great Job Josh.....man I should have held at .03......I could have less than half my investment now.....shame on me for wanting to make money on VSPC.....when no else is......
ID....you know we have had an offer already on SL!, don't you?.....you may be right about the timeframe....but the interest is there....call GG and confirm....
Seems like we have 2 camps....the CC camp which I'm in....and the AU/Diamond camp.....looking for the best news first.....
Whoever loses....still get a rise in PPS.....what a country....God Bless America
HaHaHaHaHa......what?.....no news?
what's that?....oh....sorry
They are still negotiating?.....
C'mon Carl....get r done....already....it's only been like 500 days since the first closing.....interest is adding up
HAY....I got it.....if the keep stalling....soon they will have enough GKG to fulfill the MOU with DP.....why didn't I think of that sooner?.....must being thinking about the FSU chix.....
Cork.....I got out of line last week....I apologize.....my bad......and good luck
Here's to a great week ahead with SGCP
Happy Hour is over....and I feel GREAT....think I'll have a drink
Looking foward to the next few weeks/months with SGCP....maybe not a HOMERUN...as far as pr's go......but a couple of triples....and a single.....scores more
I'll take it....
have a great weekend....and stay out of jail
I have ears....on both sides of my head....I'm hearing there is NEWS.....I know we don't have it in front of us.....and it probably won't be out today......
Right now....it's a rumor...I admit that....but I'm hearing news is coming......I'll treat it as a rumor......
Hence my 100 days.....that shouldn't kill me
GL....SGCP SH's
To each their own....glt....me
Keep kicking the can...sooner or later....you'll need another can.....
The big question....will he MAN UP?
He pre_dicted good news this week from VSPC.....so when is times up Siader?
How would they do that?......we got a low ball offer....or we are working on a deal.....until it's done.....it ain't done....
If you aren't careful.....people will sell on an incomplete deal.....
There isn't any GOOD reason....not to hear some GOOD news from SGCP in the next few months.......AU operations.....maybe 1 diamond or 1000.......and perhaps a CC deal....but the next 100 days.....GOOD NEWS should come.....if not....I will re-evalute......but that's my timeline.....
Good luck
I emailed Grant on Tuesday....got a response Wed am....He said a meeting with John......was NEWS to him......there was NO meeting schedule.....
Hey Josh....time to man up....VSPC has not come through....like you said it would........Anything you want to post?
The soap opera.....I've only posted that 2 dozens times......
I can't wait to see what kind of deal Chang works out.....for himself.....but convinces you guys/gals.....how great it is for you.....more Kool-aid
I'm also here to see Josh post.....HORSE WAS RIGHT......he said he would if nothing happened this week.....he will probably ask for an extension....
We will see though.....VSPC could release a bomb shell this morning......$20 million deal with DP.....
It was brillant, wasn't it?....imho of course
Pickin'....pack your bags.....you'll get more out of Social Security....than you will this POS stock....
I think Linda likes you....don't blow it....comb your hair....and brush your teeth....both of them
Now....a pr is needed in a bad way....the next pr need not say....VSPC still ain't closed on IPA.....either way....sell tomorrow....it will only continue to drift down.....until it TANKS.....that will happen soon enough....the HUGE selloff that is.....the longer they stall....the lower the pps DROPS....the day of the big selloff....keep stalling CARL....it's working good......