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My guess is that all those who bash here, and take pride in their "common sense" have never gone past surface DD.
They have not communicated with the company (besides hateful emails)
They have not taken the initiative to get their questions answered by the company.
They simply stand back and point out discrepancies wherever they can find them --- Like a lazy guy watching another guy paint saying "Hey, you missed a spot! Hey, you missed another spot!"
So, what will you think when the PDRExchange.com goes live?
Will you still insist that the company went to all the trouble and expense of producing a trading platform, just to scam everyone and sell shares into the market at .0014???
Don't you think if these guys were trying to scam us, they would be doing a lot better job??
The problems here are indicitave of a real company with real problems that are spurring real solutions. The key is that the dream is HUGE, and when the roadblocks are eventually overcome, the result will be HUGE.
Believe it or not.
New links at Panamersa.net
http://haciendacienfuegos.com/
http://haciendapinilla.com/
http://haciendasierpe.com/
Who thinks that those investors who fronted $.04 for shares last year might be sitting around licking their chops to take shares away from US investors who may be happy to let them go for .01 or .02.
For those who paid .04, the opportunity to average down by buying 4 times the shares for the same money will be very tempting.
Plus, it will put them in a higher ownership position in the company - take shares away from "long term flippers", effectively reducing the trading float - similar to a buyback.
Yes, he will now find out what the real meaning of "Distracted" is...
play nice kids, and don't pull on the new mods white lab coat!
Welcome DS.
Excellent choice.
Exactly,
They have decided to buy back on the PDR Exchange, and pay more money for each share for two main reasons, imo:
1. They are guaranteed to have spent their money on REAL shares that are in cert form.
2. They are assisting in the jumpstart of an exchange that is projected to make them $271 million over the next five years.
So, if the difference between buying back 1 billion shares at .0012 (which wouldn't even have been possible - not enough liquidity at that price) and buying back 1 billion shares at .01 (which is infinitely more likely to happen) would be - MATH BREAK - $8.8 million.
So, it breaks down to an $8.8 million dollar decision (worst case scenario) --- $8.8 million to make sure that they're paying for real shares, and most of all to help fertilize their new exchange that will pay that $8.8 million back within the first quarter of operation.
IMO.
12s are tough to come by right now.
don't 'ask' me how i know
The confidence of the investor community is not always THE gauge of the actual truth.
The 'community' used the think the earth was flat.
Another great reason to use your PNMS profits to buy land in Boquete - The coffee's great!
SCAA's 19th Annual Conference & Exhibition
May 8, 2007
Business Wire
LONG BEACH, Calif.--Panama coffee estate, Hacienda La Esmeralda, reached the highest level of coffee supremacy May 7 when it was recognized for having the world’s best specialty coffee for a record third consecutive year. The coffee producer set the mark by winning this year’s Specialty Coffee Association of America’s (SCAA) 2007 Roasters Guild Cupping Pavilion Competition in Long Beach, Calif. The coffee producer previously won the 2005 and 2006 Cupping Pavilions. The 2007 event took place at SCAA’s 19th Annual Conference & Exhibition.
Hacienda La Esmeralda’s winning coffee--from the Jaramillo region of Boquete, Panama--was one of 104 of the finest coffees that participated in the three-day international competition.
2007 Cupping Pavilion Results:
1. Hacienda La Esmeralda, Panama
2. El Injerto, S.A., Guatemala
3. Delicafe S.A., Costa Rica
4. Jesus Mountain Coffee Company, Nicaragua
5. Oromia Coffee Farmers Cooperative Union, Ethiopia
6. Ka'u Farm & Ranch Company LLC, Hawaii
7. Carmen Estate, Panama
8. Cafe Importa, Colombia
9. Ka'u Farm & Ranch Company LLC, Hawaii
10. Volcafe Specialty Coffee, Ethiopia
11. C.I. Racafe & Cia S.C.A., Colombia
12. Cafe de El Salvador, El Salvador
More than 30 experienced judges selected the winning coffee by cupping, or thoroughly evaluating the scent and taste of each coffee sample. The judges specifically assessed six distinct attributes of the coffee samples, including: fragrance, aroma, taste, flavor, aftertaste and body.
About the SCAA
Celebrating its silver anniversary in 2007, the SCAA is the world's largest coffee trade association. SCAA members are located in over 40 countries and represent every segment of the specialty coffee industry, from coffee growers to coffee roasters and retailers. The SCAA's mission is to be the recognized authority on specialty coffee, providing a common forum for the development and promotion of coffee excellence and sustainability. The SCAA's dedication to excellence in coffee is realized through the setting of quality standards for the industry; conducting research on coffee, equipment and perfection of craft; and providing education, training, resources and business services for members. The SCAA's annual conference is held in a different U.S. city each year and is the coffee industry's largest gathering and exhibition.
Contacts:
Specialty Coffee Association of America
Rick Havacko
562-624-4100
rhavacko@scaa.org
Nice post.
I like.
So...Let me see if I have this straight.
Omar Torrijos and Pedro Borges Fiol have a history.
Omar's son Martin is the current President of Panama.
Martin's wife Vivian is the daughter of Antonio Fernandez, a member of Desarrollo de Panamá S.A., 1/2 owners with Panamersa on the Boquete property.
One of Martin Torrijos right hand men, Hector Bolivar Aleman Estevez, is presently in charge of the Panama Canal Expansion Project.
Hector Aleman is on the Panamersa Board of Directors.
She participated in the V reunion of wives of Head of States of Central America, Belice, Panama and the Dominican Republic that took place in San Pedro Sula, Honduras in September 2004.
What's the "V" reunion?
PDRExchange.com
Check it out
http://www.pdrexchange.com
Check your "spam" filter folder....
Statement from PANAMERSA 4/5/2007
PANAMERSA Corporation is making great strides in becoming the future benchmark in investing. With a very strategic timeline and strong operational concept in place, we are positioning ourselves as a global opportunity for private and secure investing of your future. With the Fundacion Pan America, your assets will be protected, while, at the same time, be positioned for higher returns.
We understand that the certified financials are important in understanding and believing in what we have set out to accomplish. For that matter, know that the delay of these financials was not intentional, nor foreseen for that matter. Challenges, changes, and obstacles become inevitable when embarking on such a novel and historic undertaking as this. Many timelines will be out of our control, due to our unique differences from traditional American standards. Our current American model on producing and sharing financials differs substantially from that of Panamanian standards; especially considering our whole concept of security and confidentiality of investments.
As investors in PANAMERSA it is of utmost importance that you understand the scope and significance of what the company is working on and attaining. PANAMERSA is growing quickly in order to serve you better. We will change the investment platform on a historic and global level which will be virtually indistinguishable compared to the current investment model.
The trading software built by DESIMPLEX will ensure a trading platform no longer bound by market manipulation. This will allow trades to be made in real time (24/7) without delays in clearing and alleviate naked short selling.
We want our investors and shareholders to know that we are addressing issues and advancing our position every day. The pioneering approach of PANAMERSA Corporation is not a typical American concept, but a long overdue Pan American concept, built to establish an investment system dedicated to providing anyone and everyone a future filled with promise and hope. We must get away from the traditional U.S. rationale, and understand the global impact of what we are trying to achieve.
We understand that our investors have many questions and uncertainties, but our undertakings are new and unprecedented. Our vision for your future will require strategic placements of ideas never attempted before on this level. These accomplishments and achievements will not, and are not, meant to produce overnight results. This is not your typical company; the end results are not, and will not be simply attained. To be a part of the history and the future that PANAMERSA will provide, you must be patiently dedicated to its endeavors and the longevity of its results.
As shareholders and investors in the Pan American idea, you must understand that we are operating under different circumstances than a normal American company. Panamanian laws and standards are understandably different, and to our realization, more tedious to abide by than those in the U.S. Due to these differences, we are learning and adjusting accordingly, so that the end result is a perfect representation of the Pan American idea, and not of Panamanian and American, individually.
Understand that the concept behind PANAMERSA is the global opportunity for anonymous and secure investments, whether it is on an individual or company level. In accordance with this understanding, know that the idea is to protect the assets and keep private the investments of those who wish to do so.
Keep in mind; we are entering a whole new game on a whole new level. Sometimes what we want, when we want it, will not correspond. It is at these times that we must realize the complexity and unparalleled significance of what we are setting out to provide. It is at these fortunate moments that we realize the global opportunities and benefits associated with PANAMERSA and this new, exciting approach towards investing.
Believe it or not!!
trading should begin within a 30-day timeframe
und Mein Kampf??
Today's posts = Great reading.
Good job guys! This is the way the board should be.
Thanks for the thoughtful analyses...
4G
CIDD
SSniper
DS
Midas
digi
Great post! You've just laid out the logic of the "move to PDR" discussion in clear layman's terms. We've been talking about this for months, and even though it has been an "A to B to C" process in most of our minds, I can say that it is much clearer to me now.
It also clearly shows that, IMO, the "huge number of shares" isn't even really an issue right now.
$1,000 worth of stock is $1,000 worth of stock - it doesn't matter how many shares it takes to make up that $1,000
also...
Market cap is market cap - A $12.00 per share stock price is perceived to belong to a better company than a .0012 per share stock price. --- In reality, the market cap of the two companies can be exactly the same - per your post.
Thanks and nicely done.
Looks like our new National/International Marketing Director is also a charitable minded individual.
http://www.dallaswomensfoundation.org/alumnae.html
Sheila Gallagher (1995-1998)
Pat Rosenthal (1996-1999, Past President 2000-2001)
Board Alumnae Chairs
Marilyn Acheson (2004-2005)
Elsa Alcala-Grivas (2004-2007)
Sharon Baca, CFP (1985-1988)
Susan Bagwell (Founder, 1985-1988)
Lori Lynn Baker (1995-1999)
Mary Beth Bardin (1995-1999)
Cecilia Barshop (2000-2002)
Rebecca Bergstresser (1992-1993)
Rhys J. Best (1985-1986)
Julie Bleicher (2002-2005, Past President 2005-2006)
Kalita Beck Blessing (1991-1995, 1997-1998)
Laura Blocker, M.D. (1989-1992)
Virginia Bowers (1989-1993)
Cecilia Boone (2003 -2004, Past President 2005-2007)
Trish Bowling (1997-2001)
Ellen Bradley (1999-2003)
Brenda Brand (1990-1995, 1996-1998, Past President 1997-1998)
Debbie Dudley Branson (1995-1998, President 1999-2000)
Lottye Brodsky (1990-1994)
Beverly Brooks Miller (1988-1992)
Brenda Myers Brown (1985-1986)
Diana Brown (1996-2000)
Joann Brown (1993-1997)
Tracy Brown (1996-2000)
Kay Brunnier (1996-1998)
Diane Butler (2005-2006)
Rebel Calhoun (2002-2006)
Peggy Carr (1988-1990)
Vivian Castleberry (Founder 1985-1986)
Helen Chandler (2002-2006)
Dr. Clare Buie Chaney (1985-1988)
Gloria O. Chapman (1990-1995, President 1993–1994)
Suzanne Charriere (1989-1991)
Joni Cohan (1994-1998)
Carole Cohen (1989-1994)
Serena Connelly (2003-2007)
Barbara Cottrell (1989-1993, Past President 1992-1993)
Arlene J. Dayton (1986-1992, President 1990-1991)
Gloria de la Cruz (1988-1990)
Cathy Doyle (2001-2005)
Zenetta Drew (1993-1997)
Sally Dunning, State Representative (1998-2000)
Harryette Ehrhardt (Founder, 1985-1986)
Laura V. Estrada (1990-1996, Past President 1994-1995)
Phyllis Farragut (1997-2001)
Lori J. Feehan, Past President (1998-2002)
Barbara Ferguson (1998-2000)
Jane Seaberry Foote (1999-2003)
Liz Foster (2002-2006)
Pearl Garza Fracchia (1987-1992)
Carol Frank (1994-1996)
Laura Freeland (2001-2004)
Valerie Freeman (1988-1991)
Monica Fried (1985-1989)
Catalina Garcia, M.D. (Founder, 1985-1998)
Lisa Garza (1999-2003)
Christina Gears (2002-2006)
Suzy Gekiere (2001-2005)
Nikki Hurst Gibson, State Representative (2001-2004)
Helen Giddings (1988-1992)
Cynthia Gonzalez (1990-1994)
Co-Chair Alumnae (2001-2004)
Dr. Susan Gore (2003-2004)
Pat R. Gorman (1987-1993)
Suzi F. Greenman (2001-2005)
Frances Griffin-Brown (Founder)
Gail Griswold (1985-1989)
Kathy Mulgrew Hansen (2005-2006, CREW President)
Janet Harrison (1991-1997, President 1995-1996)
Marjean Henderson (1993-1997)
Rue Henry (1985-1987)
Sharon Herrin (1998-2000)
Tracy Hopkins (1991-1997, President 1996-1997)
Irene Hosford (1994-1995)
Trish Houck (1997-2001)
Marianne Howard (1998-2000)
Lyria Howland (2001-2002)
Kay Bailey Hutchison, Unites States Senator (Founder, 1985-1987 & Council, 1987-1988)
Dr. Linda Hughes (1998-2000)
Helen LaKelly Hunt (Founder, 1985-1987, Council Chair 987-1988)
Karyl Innis (1994-1998)
Brenda Jackson (1987-1988)
Mary Jalonick (1985-1988)
Sarah E. Johnson (1992-1993)
Margaret H. Jordan (Council 1988-1992)
Michelle Keith (2002-2006)
Glenda Kemple (1995-1999)
Ellen Lindsey Key (1992-1996)
Valerie Kindle (2001-2004)
Sharon King (1985-1990, Past President 1987-1989)
Beth Lambert (2001-2002)
Valerie Lawlor (1995-2000)
Anne Leary (2000-2004)
Sarah Losinger (2002-2006)
Matilda Bright Louree (1987-1991, President 1989-1990)
Melendy Lovett (1999-2003)
Julie Lowenberg (1985-1987)
Joy Mankoff (Founder, 1985-1988, Council Chair 1996-1999)
Ron Mankoff (Council 1985-1987, Council Chair 1996-1999)
Staci Mankoff (2001-2005)
Tori Mannes (2002-2006)
Nancy Cain Marcus, Ph.D. (2003-2006)
Marty Marks (1998-2002)
Ann Margolin (1986-1989)
Lynn Markley (2003-2005)
Susie Marshall (1990-1994 & 1996-2000)
Thalia Matherson (2003-2007)
Cheryl Mayo (1999-2003)
Maura McNiel (Founder, 1985-1986)
Patricia Meadows (Founder)
Carmen Michael, Ph.D. (Founder, 1985-1986)
Bette W. Miller (1994-1996)
Dorthy Miller (1996-1998)
Retta Miller (2000-2004, Board President 2003)
Dr. Beverly Mitchell-Brooks (1985-1987)
Joleen Moden (1999-2000)
Cyndy Montgomery (2001-2005)
Regina Montoya (1986-1987,Council Chair 1991-1992)
Becky Munoz-Diaz (2005-2006)
Vinton Murray (2002-2005)
Judy Ninman (1996-2000)
Cecilia Stubbs Norwood (1996-2000, Past President 2004, Co-Chair Alumnae 2001 -2003)
Deborah Nugent (1990-1993)
Gwendolyn Oliver (Founder 1985-1986)
Paula Rhodes Parker (2003-2007)
Deborah Parnell (2001-2005)
Dianne Patterson (1992-1996,Council Chair 1997-1998)
Joan Payseur (1985-1989)
Debra Peek-Haynes (2004-2006)
Sheryl Lilly Pidgeon (1996-2000)
Carol Pitts (1999-2003)
Karen Pollock (1998-2002)
Debra Polsky (1998-2002)
Lucy Polter (1996-1998)
Tegwin Pulley (1990-1994)
Louise B. Raggio (Founder, 1990-1991, 1993-1995)
Cynthia Reavis Alford (1995-1999, Past President 2002-2003)
Sharon Reedie (2003-2007)
Betty Regard (1992-1997)
Delia Reyes (1994-1995)
Brenda Richardson (2002-2003)
Cathy Rodewald (2000-2002)
Jaynie Schultz Romaner (1995-1999)
Deedie P. Rose (1989-1990)
Sally Rosen (2003-2007)
Pat Rosenthal (1996-1999, President (2000-2001)
Ann Ross (1987-1993, President 1991-1992)
Pat Nicklaus Sabin (Executive Director 1985-1997)
Susan Collins Saunders (1985-1987)
Diane Scovell (1987-1990)
Betsy See (1993-1996, Co-Chair Alumnae (1998-2000)
Mimi Sherwin (1991-1995)
Marilyn Small (1989-1990)
Janet Smith (1999-2003)
Cheryl Stevens (2003-2007)
Janet Stevens (2003-2007)
Becky Sykes (Founder, 1985-1989, President 1985-1987; Executive Director 1998-present)
Lorraine Teel (2003)
Oeita Theunissen (Founder 1985-1986)
Roslyn Dawson Thompson (1986-1988)
Leslie Torres (1999-2003)
Gayle Tremblay (1998-2000)
Shelley Turner (1996-2000)
Gloria Vasquez-Brown (2001-2005)
Pat Vaughan (1994-1998)
Carol Duncan Vesey (1986-1988)
Barbara Watkins (1985-1988, 2000-2003)
Carol West (2001-2003)
Jane Wetzel (1989-1993)
Ginny Whitehill (Founder, 1985-1989)
Jeanne Whitman (1996-2000)
Pam Wilkerson (CREW 1997-1998)
Linda Wilkins (1988-1992)
Debbie S. Wilson (1995-1996)
Ellen Silva Wilson (1995-1999)
Kay Winzenried (1995-1997, Co-Chair Alumnae 2004–2005)
Sally Wolfish (1996-1997)
Elizabeth Zaby (1995-1999)
Peggy Zarro (2001-2004)
LOLOLOL
You can measure their level of frustration at being able to find anything of value by the frequency of "where's my divy?" posts.
Sage advice.
I agree, and despite the fact that i miss the satisfaction of discussing this gem with those who are enlightened, I have somewhat enjoyed the "relative quiet".
Thanks for everything,
I know it's a dream...
but there are a bunch of us with much more than $1,000 worth, so that sort of makes a little easier to imagine how the float has moved into strong hands, eh?
Yep, and if those 424 people all bought just $1,000 worth of PNMS, this thing would go parabolic within a year, and those 424 people would make a hefty return.
You didn't miss a thing - I checked a couple of times and i think there were maybe 5-10 posts all wknd.
Investors with a good feeling about their investment.
Bashers with no ammunition.
...or my iggy is workin' overtime. - lol
Right!! - Like 11 x 16 ??
Only a 30%+ difference.
Those who couldn't get a relatively small order at .0013 - that's the proof that sellers at this level are starting to dry up.
Just two days ago, at least 5 million went of at .0013 right before the close.
Panamersa Corporation
100 Crescent Court
Suite 700
Dallas, Tx 75201
Investor Relations: 214-774-4870
Fax: 214-722-0054
http://www.panamersa.com/contact
Here's a house that most of us could fit on our Square Meters down in CR. We could start a little village. Watch out for Tooth Fairy's monkey!!!!
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.05/pl_home_p90.html
Slideshow - http://www.wired.com/culture/design/multimedia/2007/04/PL_home
Nice post DS,
Also, I can confirm from talking to IR that the divvy situation is on the top of their list. They badly want this situation brought to resolution and it seems that Friedman and Feiger have been given the task of resolving the situation.
One thing i know about lawyers, especially "fancy" ones.
They HATE to lose!
Can only be good for us.
You and Stock Lobster don't get too carried away when you're celebrating PLYCF's next run --
You might end up with one of these
Newsday??
Is that after Wednesday or before Friday?
Come on Bulldog!!
Give us the SLAM DUNK!!!
.
Exactly.
ny, you wrote -
Grrrrrr, not more back peddling!
How do they go from
'The establishment of PDR Exchange (Panama), Inc. is officially complete and trading should begin within a 30-day timeframe,' -- This does not mean that the software was ready, it simply means that the 'corporation' was officially created and completed in Panama - they made this clear - they also made clear that they were beginning beta testing
to
'currently going through lists and seeking out additional qualified testers'
in just under 30 days?
Unreal!
I think you simply misunderstood the meanings of the PRs. The company has been behind on several deadlines, that is difficult to deny - BUT!!!!
This board, in particular, is guilty of 'creating' deadlines for the company by extrapolating time tables from PRs and blog entries. Takereasy guys!
Try to figure out why you're mad. Is it doing you any good?
From website - "We understand that our investors have many questions and uncertainties, but our undertakings are new and unprecedented. Our vision for your future will require strategic placements of ideas never attempted before on this level. These accomplishments and achievements will not, and are not, meant to produce overnight results. This is not your typical company; the end results are not, and will not be simply attained. To be a part of the history and the future that PANAMERSA will provide, you must be patiently dedicated to its endeavors and the longevity of its results."
From Blog - "I am currently going through lists and seeking out additional qualified testers to complete the beta testing phase of the trading site, which should be accomplished shortly."
Good job MT - "shortly" is the right way to approach this.
Answer in blog entry:
"As you know, the PDR trading site is also being built. We are currently working under the announced time frame, however, you must understand that building a site as robust and technologically advanced as the PDR site, will inevitably present a few challenges. A site that will allow the capabilities to host aggressive, active trading in real time, with 24/7 access provides little room for bugs or detours."
Delays are part of business. Scams always deliver on time.
You should see this as a validation that they are doing what they say they are going to do - something revolutionary.
Revolutionary takes time. Revolutionary runs into unforseen problems. Revolutionary cannot be rushed.
Patience = $$$$$$$$$
PDR Exchange (Panama), Inc.
May 2nd, 2007
http://blog.panamersa.com/
Shareholders,
We are currently completing the PANAMERSA Corporation Web site remap and are seeing some exciting ideas and processes emerge. Once fully functional, the site will allow for amazing search capabilities, provide important information to shareholders in real time and direct to their inbox.
As you know, the PDR trading site is also being built. We are currently working under the announced time frame, however, you must understand that building a site as robust and technologically advanced as the PDR site, will inevitably present a few challenges. A site that will allow the capabilities to host aggressive, active trading in real time, with 24/7 access provides little room for bugs or detours. I am currently going through lists and seeking out additional qualified testers to complete the beta testing phase of the trading site, which should be accomplished shortly. We have a specific strategy and are focused on attaining that goal.
Think of our situation like a war room – as shareholders we all sit around a table and determine what the next move will be – move the troops here and it directly affects what is going on over there. These efforts are all interconnected and while delivery of the sites to you in a expedited manner is important, making them fully functional and operational is critical. We don’t want to overlook our strategy for speed.
In the next couple of weeks, I will be traveling to Spain to meet with brokers to promote the new PDR site with Euro investors. Our partner DESIMPLEX has aided us in making these introductions and will help facilitate. Due to their strong background in stocks, specifically in the European and Latin American markets, DESIMPLEX is a strong ally in our push onto a traded exchange. I’m excited about moving forward with this phase and know that it will only heighten PANAMERSA Corporation’s brand and visibility throughout the world.
While in Panama this week, I attended a boxing event that helped me to visualize PANAMERSA’s stance within the world playing field. I attended the fight with Pedro and Manuel; we networked with many of the elite within Panama’s banking and financial industries. During this 10-round title fight, the champion was getting trampled. He fought his way through the first nine rounds, barely making it into the 10th – but remember he is a champion, so as beaten and weak as he was he hung in there and took it all the way to the end of the fight. The spectators visibly doubted that the champion would make it through, but midway through the 10th round, he rose to the occasion and with one punch – the other fighter was knocked out completely for more than four minutes.
PANAMERSA will have our time – our knock-out punch, but as with the fight above, none of this comes from pure luck – it is a calculated strategy, our partnerships, and our commitment that will play out to bring all of our dreams to fruition. We are laying the infrastructure now to push PANAMERSA into the future, but we must all be patient as we lay the groundwork for the best that is yet to come.
Mike Terrell
CEO, PANAMERSA Corporation
LUNCH BREAK!!