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ya, there is a grace period though. its not instant banishment.
dear lord
next investors meeting cant come soon enough, we need a sign!
im nervous about a broader market collapse, if the whole market tanks if people freak out while this sting is still fragile...
http://www.backstage.com/casting/vapor-x-commercial-35448/
wonder what the deal is with this one? if it ever shot...
http://www.simplyhired.com/job-post/45632.26553
austin, tx
we need some boulder, co and denver, co
perception is reality...
ya, i feel like we are being sent back down to the minors
there are rumors Njoy will go public, more nervous about that. i suppose at this point anytime the sector gets recognition it is good for the others.
I would think ECIG would be more likely to be shorted if they uplist. These stocks will all sort of trade together, it's not like the tech is terribly different, lots of waves of hype because of the market opportunity. Just scale back when you can. I see why Jim Cramer says spec stocks should be less the than 10% of the portfolio lol.
I was at a panthers game last weekend and saw 2 people vaping in my section alone. I'm noticing it more and more, and I live in the heart of tobacco country.
it would be cool to get some kind of news, this thing is going to go higher! :)
no idea, i thought someone said shops average 30-40k a month. i bet kiosk is 5-15k
i think it will really help with visibility, i can't wait to scale back. i am way too far into this one, it will send me to the grave early.
my plan is to scale back to 1000 shares and let this ride out forever.
http://www.careerbuilder.com/jobseeker/jobs/jobdetails.aspx?Job_DID=JHM41T70MJNL735CV06&siteid=sep_cb002_sales&showNewJDP=yes&ipath=EXGOO
they are popping up now, i hope they kill off some brands when they open the store. i think they should just go on with vaporX, krave, and hookah stix. you can only have so much brand equity if you have 6+ brands.
i personally think Krave is corny, but who knows how long they can really compete in the cigalike market anyway.
ya i mean i think he is only working with some of the information to a certain point, i don't want Harlan Press taking his time writing rebottles to SA articles, i think that job listing that ChuckBits found was very telling. we just got to hold on and hope they move forward with a vapor shop carpet bombing. i do think a lot of "me too" products are on the market and big tobacco is moving in, so its unfair to say VPCO is a loser for not growing in a growing market. i think their is just a crunch at the moment.
i think VPCO read IVG's playbook and figured they could do it cheaper, although it added some pain at our expense. I bet vaporX shops find their way into movies soon...
9-10 stores in 2014 is fine by me, i just want to commit to a new direction.
probably just getting the cheap cash now while interest rates are low, who knows when the fed will raise them...
that press release has had me buzzing all day, that will be some amazing visibility over the next year to have all those stores out there. the next hype wave will definitely be bigger than the last, even if it takes another 3 or 4 quarters. i can't wait to take a 30-40% return and scale the f** back. put my money in some index funds and dividend stocks.
ya Sone, we are all still here and we aren't dead yet :)
great find ChuckBits!
i agree with all points.
i don't see the need in selling, im just hoping these guys can navigate through the next 2 or 3 quarters, there will inevitably be hype again in this space. Reynolds' Vuse is automated manufacturing and I have "heard" Blu intends on automating too. this will flush out the cigalikes sellers right out.
Reynolds' Vuse is a great product, its drag has a real zip. Mods inevitably have to be manufactured by hand, so manufacturing (deadlines, scarcity of labor, supply chain, etc.). this is the space they have to fight for.
I wish they picked up IVG, their stuff is so much cooler. Their stuff looks like Apple products with LED's and variable voltage. It seems like Vapor Corp plan is to come out with one product line a year and coast on it. They need to concentrate on the VaporX stuff and get on the ball with online retail or buy up e-liquid manufacturers. Stock this low is going to squeeze out their credit and cash. im just baffled that other e-cig stocks have weathered the storm.
maybe even pedal it as a marijuana play! that must be their ace in the hole :)
hmmm, it isn't rational. they have too big of revenues. they need to start releasing products in development in press releases. trading at lower than last years price, even with the same revenues...
they would have been better off paying a premium for IVG clearly, even if it was costly, i bet the stock would be at $7+ had they done it...
anybody else seen this model before?
this is what i find frustrating, new stuff and its not on the website or no news of it. cool looking product though.
http://www.vaporseller.com/vaporx-exponent-vaporizer.html
http://online.wsj.com/articles/coming-soon-to-theaters-near-you-e-cigarettes-1410748204
maybe help is on the way...
yes im interested too, can you private message me the content?
:(
i watched the biometric video, they said it would be released "mid-year" and definitely by christmas back at the show in January
is the "powered by shaking" model out yet? i know they filed a patent for it
im hoping for an App that works with vapes. that would create some buzz although their website is garbage, hopefully some good news or new tech by december. this stock has been a lesson in patience and diversification. i can't wait to get some of this money back and put it into an index fund. i'm long, this will be profitable eventually....
why didn't we buy IVG?!
I'm with you YEag, certainly not buying anymore. I'm interested in the technology, intellectual property, and pipe line of products at this point. That would make this company a good acquisition down the line
I'm still reeling from that IVG bust though, I'd like to think they are going to release a new line of products soon or open up some retail spots
I've emailed Harlan Press twice in the past, no response.
I've emailed Harlan Press twice in the past, no response.
although i think we are all going to be sitting, waiting, and wishing for a while. not holding my breathe...
i have to believe they say engineering and design of this stuff while they were about to partner with IVG
good thing Holman is a lawyer lol. this is the new vape from IVG. i hope VPCO is going to come out with products like this. the variable voltage is supercool looking. im sure VPCO is going to start producing vapes along these lines soon (fingers crossed). this is the exact tech that gets you bought out...
http://www.vaporfi.com/electronic-cigarettes/vaporfi-vox-50-mod.html
give us a sign!
“The agreement to acquire International Vapor Corp. has been terminated. The purpose of the acquisition, which would have resulted in significant share dilution, was to improve VPCO’s online presence and establish a retail chain of smoke shops. VPCO now will pursue those ends on its own, hiring additional personnel, presumably at a somewhat lower cost.”
i can get jiggy with that, i have to believe this was caused by money, not differing visions on trends or strategy
ya im going to try to figure out how to pound down this average.
i don't see the point in selling. this "ecig/vapor" sector is likely to trade together. small companies like this get bought out and will probably spike, i just can't wait till all this money isn't a hostage
i would like to hear some type of response though, this press release is garbage...
i suppose no deal is better than a bad deal, perhaps they felt they would have been paying a premium since the stock crashed...
yikes, i just read the news. won't sell, i feel like i would be cursed and it would bounce eventually. still a lot of directions this company could go. they still have that biometric and an app in the pipeline. small companies can be bought for a premium.
i think offering to buy IVG shows they know their are holes to fix. they could buy a liquid manufacturer and sell online direct or could very well still open VaporFi stores or that concept under a new name.
this does sting, but its not a death sentence.
i would have held out for atleast another quarter, if with next quarter, VPCO will likely have record revenue quarter, the thing could go to $6+. Its a volatile game, it can go up just as fast just as fast as it can tank.
better change your name VPCOinvestor lol.
YEAG, Im riding this with you.
post on the glla page, we don't care...
i was thinking today, a few years into the future...
that these vaporfi stores could be a mjna play? if they have the established footprint the could sell liquid and mjna? i know regulations, etc...
makes sense to sell both in one store eventually
you mean you transferred your loss to another loser lol
quit spamming that is the hackiest website and "me-too" product i have ever seen