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Does this established bottler have a name that any of the dd'ers would like to share?
Still not available in nh store
Still no trading volume of consequence
Remember that station is owned by one of ECSL's biggest stakeholders
Not so. Maybe in most, but not in all. Still nothing in NH.
Overhyping and/or mis-stating facts helps nobody.
Mills and many on this board over the past three years have already proved that.
Frankly, I'd like to see his body language when he answers questions. Managements that never go on the road to tell their stories are much more like to be hiding things and/ or have ethics problems
Just like the stock was overbought and overvalued to a laughable level when it tagged $3 many moons ago. Oversold has nothing to do with being a truly exceptional value stock.
Now allowing? please explain
I suspect the store has one of the smaller footprints in the entire chain, no?
A couple weeks ago, pfj just south of concord, nh didn't have it. Cash register guy did not think it was being stocked
Ditto about soon
Never say 'soon' when you're talking about ecsl
I'm not a fan of kd7, and I'm even less of a rooter for you, but I'll side with kd on this one. Selling on consignment to pfj would be cash flow suicide. The numbers and a couple of conversations say consignment is not the mo in this relationship.
Just a reminder that there was a conception almost nine months ago that proved to be anything but immaculate.
Many stillborns over the past 2.5 years. Still waiting for a living breathing biz that comes anywhere close to justifying the current valuation, which is still about $13mm
Next filings not until end of September or early October
Most investors who know what they're doing prefer averaging up
The quarter just finished? Fiscal 4q ends June 30
Stock halted 4 hours ago. Finally being acquired?
Realistically, he was fired. Hopefully no severance will be paid inasmuch as he "resigned"
For company shareholders sake, I hope you're right
It's about time. Convictions won't be easy, but there will be plenty of high class ambulance chasers looking for 33% of what they hope are big payouts
Only a meaningful further deceleration in quarterly growth of shares outstanding will prove that no more shares needed assertion to be true. Time may tell
Well, some humble pie. Bravo. For the first time in at least two years, mills is not hyping potential contracts or allegedly huge chunks of new business.
It's been a long time coming.
"We are developing these areas of business and are hopeful that we will have sales in these areas this year. "
In prior missives, it would have been "this quarter."
So it looks like the days of over promising are gone. Hurrah.
Now let's see, as lta pointed out, whether or not he can hire people of character who have histories of real sales, marketing, and operations success. Nothing less should be expected.
No dilution? Nonsense.
date shs o/s yr-yr % change
03/16 61,920,023 5.4%
12/15 61,239,294 5.4%
09/15 60,742,865 6.5%
06/15 58,995,187 4.3%
03/15 58,751,053 7.5%
12/14 58,101,037 9.4%
09/14 57,044,475 9.6%
06/14 56,564,842 9.6%
03/14 54,649,109 10.4%
12/13 53,123,849
09/13 52,041,684
06/13 51,593,018
03/13 49,501,745
12/12 49,501,745
A decelerating rate of yr-yr dilution? Yes
I take it you mean March financials? And that's $29mm in accumulated losses, not debt. No argument the numbers were ugly
Classic dysfunctional company with a history of lawsuits regarding so called intellectual property. Every one of them is a bad actor to some extent.
Correct. I've posted several times that I have in effect a six bagger after a triple in the first two months of 2014 and a double around year end 2014
With the stock at/near 52 week and multi year lows, tax loss selling will be persistent for the next several months. Bet on it
Absolutely superb post # 32857 by redneck. One of you moderators should put this one in the yellow section.
As for the rest of you so-called longs, whatever credibility you might have had is now gone. All of you will do everyone on this board a service by going radio silent until late the week of September 25. And why wouldn't you, if you think the stock is a bargain. Why would you choose to keep pushing the bull story if you really are of a mind and/ or action to buy or accumulate the stock? Mills has just put the final stamp on his inability to make the right decisions for the benefit of shareholders, including hiring at least two people incapable of executing on a general plan. He is definitely stretched too thin, and is unwilling to hire consultants who can most assuredly help him to formulate strategy and help execute in the critical areas of contracts, operations, and sales & marketing. He is not the right person to be ceo of ecsl, nor are/were at least two of his employees. A company is only as good as its employees
Ceo's routinely over promise and under deliver, especially if they have to sell more stock or bonds to finance operations. Legal consequences are very rare. Plunging stock prices more frequent
Manipulation? $16mm market cap on minimal revenues is hardly manipulation. It's reality
Not a chance. Earliest possible reporting of meaningful revenues and anywhere near cash flow break even is about 165 days away
What is your math that makes this a $70 mm market cap?
Because truckers generally aren't players in the stock market
Fiscal 4q16 financials won't be released until late September at the earliest and most likely mid October if the timing of FY 4q15 releases are any indication. So not even close to being due by 8/15/16. Other qtrs yes, but not fy4q.
Which means the presumably rising sales volume relative to that deal won't be released until some time in October, if last year's fiscal year end reporting time line is any indication, five to six months from now.
As for accountng, will revenues be reported when sold in to pfj or not until pfj actually sells through product to end customers?
That pfj is said to be planning to put ecsl's product in all its 600+ stores is a step in the right direction, bit it is not proof that it's the best product. It could be that pfj has struck a deal where the economics are very favorable to pfj's interests almost no matter what the unit volumes turn out to be. Time may tell
He couldn't. Classic micro cap executive-like response along the lines of ebitda. That doesn't cut it and has no resemblance to real ongoing free cash flow from continuing operations, including working capital changes.
Most recent quarter, annualized, trailing 12 months, or none of the above?
There are many different interpretations of what positive cash flow really means. Many posters would be interested to know what your definition is, please.