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This is no longer a business, thats what many don't get. It is a SHELL, period, with all that it entails. They need to sell shares, that is the ONLY BUSINESS. Web pages do not make a business (don't even have to have a legal business), we saw that with all the bolding and caps of yelling over at BNPD all along without paying attention to the State of Nevada or lack of any filings or the statistical nature of Reverse RAZZLE DAZZLEs that were plenty stated on this board and now fact. Spongy had a great web page, even sold product, still made up business and criminal behavior.
Now we have another imaginary business with no income, no product except for shares to sell, no NOTHING except the same statements that there is nothing but immoral intent and greed from the owners of the shell and its promoters.
If there was a real business, with real value and possibility of anything besides more of the same that has been stated and come true on a regular basis, I would cap and bold and yell also.
But there is nothing to fail here, it has already failed. No doom, just fact. And the only success that can be mustered up to talk about is made up BS or one can accept what it is: shell share selling.
No technology, no business, no share buy back (except maybe a farce PR with the following R/S and bigger A/S increase), and there isn't anybody that is got any real business sense and big money going to buy this shell unless it is a dubious person (or imaginary) that only wants to continue shell share selling.
There's lots of other shells out there that would be cleaner and cheaper to start any kind of business including algae. A shell is a shell is just a ticker, doesn't matter what it was, it can be anything. So why would anyone with any real money want to waste time and money on this dirty filthy one when there are literally thousands with better opportunity and means to profitability unless it is the same crooks who already have the shares and want to sell them?
The failure is matter of record, any success is totally made up unable to be backed up by any record.
Trying to waste time on "pinning tales" is only trying to elude from the facts of what this ticker is. It is the FULL responsibility of the top leaders to control and instruct, maintain or delegate, fire and replace EVERYONE of their command as they see fit in a company or business. End of story, period, and ones who try to get the topic off of what the leaders (Pawson, "df", and cohorts) are doing right now and why this ticker as a company has failed is just helping the criminals, liars, and scammers.
Any faults of the peons (yes, there have been "peons" that have been blamed by the dreamers) or higher up are the full responsibility to the ones who are in top charge of the company. Whether or not there are wrongs or faults of anyone who is underneath the top management, it is still the full responsibility of the ones who run them. The idiot BS that has been trying to blow smoke out the tailpipe is just that, idiotic and is only part of the lack of any morality and lack of responsibility of the ones who follow it.
Does one really think that anyone could do or fix anything without the actions and input of "df"? What a joke and the only "more donkeys" that one needs to pay attention too here is Pawson and the like. And according to the smoke blower, ones who are "private citizens" become "off topic". "df" is not a private citizen here, MB is, just a note. Check Sunbiz.
There is no business, no product, no NOTHING as a company here. Just a shell selling shares.
And it was up to "df" to make sure she was doing her job, so it still falls onto "df" the crook and the head manipulator and biggest failure. It's only low life incompetents that blame the peons and only indicates lack of wanting for true success or just BS. But most know this was not the leaders ("df" and Pawson, etc) intent for any true business except selling shares with this shell and to manipulate and make the people under them to believe in something that was just a scam -- thats what flim flam men do, exactly what they did and are continuing to do -- fleece the flock -- and there seems to be a small amount of followers that have the same faults of MB. Kind of like the frying pan calling the kettle black.
Good job.
Didn't see where that link got to OOIL, just other stocks. Maybe I missed it.
There was a couple of alerts. Example -- this one from Epic Stock Picks last night. Not sure if actual paid promo or just because.
"OOIL (Originoil Inc.): OOIL continued its impressive uptrend today closing at .221 and reaching a new high since its November lows. This one is also on high alert and rumors of newsletter coverage are abound for tomorrow."
This was a great one, got to go back a little, but this BS has definitely been done before with NOTHING but shares sold, downward spiral of pps, more dilution, and no fuel or power.
Back from a really old website, but move up a little in time and they are doing it again with some algae driven vehicle that I guess went to the scrap yard and didn't get out of the driveway, and now they want to "turn around" people once again.
"BioCentric Energy Incorporated is in the development, implementation, and build out of biodiesel facilities that will provide a yearly capacity of 200 million gallons by the end of 2010. Our partnered refineries will be able to produce roughly 10% of the projected 2 billion gallons of our nation’s yearly Biodiesel production by 2010 as projected by the National Biodiesel Board (NBB)."
http://web.archive.org/web/20070623145414/www.biocentricenergy.com/Home_Page.html
(its an old archived site, so it might take a minute to load)
Again, where can I fill up? LOL
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57502494&txt2find=fill
It's not really the MM's here in the way many think. The MM's are just a conduit for the crooks like "df", Pawson, and the BS promoter(s) having a great deal of influence of manipulating or attempting to manipulate a run of some sort to sell their shares.
That's why many times a common trader tries to get the low pps and can't and only ends up buying into the fake trading created by the crooks using the MM's as the source to do it. But also unless there is great volume and even sometimes when there is volume, a common person can't get the high price when trying to sell. The manipulators like Pawson, "df", or their promoter are doing there dealings and moving on top of the normal person. But first they "turn them around".
Like I've stated, this subject has been discussed many times and it has to do with waiting to sell restricted shares as they are trying to do or set up to do.
For example this post states what is going on and at that time states what was going to happen which in fact is what is attempting to happen.
Thats for sure. First it was PR'd that some company was going to buy millions of dollars worth of sales, the pps spiked quite a bit for a day and the company sold into it. Then it turned out that the company that was supposedly buying the millions was not buying at all and nothing to do with it except for selling the BNPD shell to the same people or family of BEHL and doing a reverse "razzle dazzle" with saying that they were giving out "free" shares.
Well nothing was ever filed and only the old officers leaving the BNPD shell with no active officers, no business, no product, and only BS from "baby name stealer" "df" that never amounted to anything the PRs stated.
Now we have some "imaginary" "Burton" as a front "name" to "turn around" this company and asking anyone who is willing to "turn around" and grab their ankles with the BS shell game.
The real DD people have stated many times already that they would have to spike this pps to sell the remaining shares into and even set up for a R/S. The chart tells all about how long "spikes" in the pps last, so good luck to anyone who is trying to catch the wind here.
Thats completely gone, no such thing is going to happen. Nothing was ever filed with the state or anybody. It was just another BS to sell shares into and never was going to happen or if it did, it would of just been more of a loss for share holders with the two shell games.
Wouldn't surprise me any with this ticker, thats for sure. The immoral behavior and actions that border(and may cross the line) of criminal nature just doesn't seem to end with many that are connected with this ticker. And it is perceived that the ones who decide they don't want to be involved with this ticker just leave after seeing what it is or finally realizing that nothing else will come out of it.
For all anyone knows, this "Burton" could be totally made up, and they are still just stalling. He could really be in the states and just getting an "address" over there.
No matter what, it is just deception plain and simple and the fact that they are still just deceiving tells all with anyone with any real market intelligence. Yes, not being open or not disclosing fully is considered deception.
Made up companies and officers have been done before and "out of the country" is the most common used for many penny scams. Spongy made up companies and officers and even had "council" for civil and other factors, until they really needed "council" with the Justice Dept and shareholders coming at them with many civil suits. And they still have ones who foolishly state they are "long" on Sponges. What a joke, there always is a few who show their real smarts. LOL
Of course it's just more of the vague statements. EXACTLY how most here predicted it. It's more of the shell game in order to attempt to spike the pps to sell into. Most of us know what this is and continue to be proven right on a constant basis. Wish it was this easy to foresee in Vegas, we would be quite well off.
In Sweden? Come on now, that's all that they can come up with. I really doubt any "legal council" will be doing anything for shareholders or maybe its the same legal council that supposedly was handling the BNPD shell game that no filings at the state or federal level came about, just NOTHING and NOTHING was before any leaving of employees, not the other way around.
If they ever get something at Salt Lake, which I doubt due its just a bunch of MORE BS, there are too many people that can be checking that out and keeping an eye on anything that might be there, so they better PR another city and better luck next time.
But like has been stated many times, it's just the expected attempt to continue to fleece the flock and keep the naive and lazy DD BEHLievers to keep desperately holding onto some dream that will never come true.
If they just used a calculator and payed attention to the astronomical percentage gains that will have to be done with most "hopefuls" investment price with such a dirty unbelievable shell BS by most in the market, that should be enough.
But I just don't think there really is many left that will believe in this and the real DD people aren't going anywhere and will continue to factually explain what is really going on and with projections that will continue to come true. And some rinky dink site elsewhere with their pitiful lying promoter just isn't going to cut it.
These are only shell games and anyone who has any real market sense knows this. Thats why this PR has really done nothing to spike this as of yet. They will need to spend more money on more PRs and more money in trying to manipulate the pps in the trading in order to even get this thing moving to any extent.
Just too many already know of BEHLs game to make this one any pinky run and too many other shell games that have much more MOMO to make trades with with better profitability than BEHL will ever possibly do.
Lots of buys?? For every buy there is a sell, how its listed is constantly deceiving. "Lots" ?????? There is practically nothing for volume with comparison for dollar amount. It's a joke and trading action is totally indicative to the shell games of the pinky world and matches perfectly to most things that have been said here.
Even when super sub penny stocks go to no bid, many times there is heavy volume with so called "buys" before there actually is no bid. So I sure don't see anything positive with the trading action here.
This still is just a pinky shell game, thats it.
Verification has only been asked of one side. There is no verification that the ex-employees did not do there job or that "DF" wanted the company to succeed and has only been verified as a salesman or con man. The only so called verification that BEHLevers have wanted is from a lying promoter and some rinky dink nowhere site BS that only "feels" good. Much verification has been in plain view that the ones who are screaming for verification have closed their eyes to and refused to believe. Yet have excepted other mis-information that fits with the "dream" readily and with open arms not really caring what the real facts are, but only something that can pitifully explain the continued declining pps and losses that have been endured.
I can't see where DF is still not in control and needs to be "payed off". This shell is so dirty that the few dangling BEHLevers are not going to change the sentiment of the majority. The FACT is that the market, pinky or not, goes on the sentiment, and the pps will always reflect that.
Doesn't matter is one wants to continue to believe in a "dream", not going to clean this shell up and believing in the yet again the "next Saviour" is not going to magically create some real company out of this shell. It will only be continued to use for a pinky shell game and thats it.
Any real valid honest business would pick a much cleaner shell that didn't have the sentiment or so many skeletons in the closet and anyone who attached themselves to this one as some sort of "Saviour" has to be taken with some suspicion and caution. BEHL is not good business nor is it valid to look at other than a shell share selling business.
Doesn't matter what or where the blame gets put on, this so called "business" is just a bunch of dirt with poo mixed in and that isn't going to change.
The emotion that was exhibited by that poster was, I believe, only an act of caring what may be going on at the Amargosa "camp" and not trying to diminish the severity or validity of Auschwitz. I agree that the Auschwitz camps (it included about 40-50 satellite camps) were a very horrible example of mankind's ability for extreme cruelty and should be recognized and remembered for what it was.
Besides the several million people that were just plain exterminated, there were also over a million people that died of lack of disease control, medical care, lack of nutrition, and proper treatment of the weakened human. Now this is just one little old lady in the middle of nowhere, but it is possible that the latter treatment (or lack there of) is what the poster was feeling is happening and out of emotion and not disrespect for the people who were at Auschwitz, made reference to.
This does not say anything good for BEHL and is only a confirmation, if true (and things are pointing to some truth to the matter), what kind of people that BEHL associates with and what type of business it does. Crooks, liars, BS promoters, the immoral, and undesirables deal with each other all the time and turn on each other all the time also. Partners in crime do not eliminate any crime, just confirm it. This still reminds me of a spongy deal with its "partner in crime" company.
BEHL has no money, no business, it is only a shell selling the last shares it can to get the last pennies it can to hopefully keep enough going to pump or spike this thing up one more time to sell into. And it really is pennies right now, only about a $1000 traded yesterday. In my view, just a flippen dirty shell with dirty people, what does one expect.
I've got to go and not really going to debate. We don't need any "Pawsons" of the world. Don't need all the shell businesses either, way way too many. Real business will never have a half a chance if the "Pawsons of the world" are allowed to continue. It's hard to get a business going for sure, thats life, and I know exactly what a bank charges and their requirements. There's a purpose in that and creating pinky shell games is not any answer.
And most of what is going on right now and your statements are just BS. Stop this so called "seed" money and ones like Pawson, and some of the deception, bad business, and pinky scams will decrease immensely.
There is a cost and profit with an investor, and there is a very small validity with a reasonable profit and intent on return. That is NOT anything to do with people like Pawson. There is absolutely no need for the thousands upon thousands of pinky stocks that are only in it for the profit of share selling, not any real business that you speak of. The system of pinks needs to be shut down and revamped period.
Weed out people like Pawsons and ones who supply the monies for the deceit and one might just have left what you want to portray.
Like I said got to go, but I stand by what I said. There is no defense for the BS. But I'm a guy who would like the paycheck loan places shut down, so I can dream too.
Have a good New Year to all.
It's like defending a illegal loan shark here or ones who "turn around" shells. Just invalid defense and just doesn't fly due to the extent that Pawsons been involved or anyone "like" him or ones involved in the pinky "games" of shell play. This whole area needs to be cleaned up and ones who do it put down in order to have some order. This would still allow trading and maybe if enough cleaned up give some possibility of new business, new technology, and real investing at some level.
Just too much greed and "turning around" shells not for real business except just money grubbing low life of supplying "seed" money for just share selling and huge profit of the pinky scams which the biggest percentage are. Better ways for a person of any caliber to make money and succeed than the "seed" money ways that usually take place.
Pawsons objective was not of any defensible position.
A simple answer is yes, he's always been involved. But some good read on some real DD which may be a missed option of some is available. Nodummy has done a lot of REAL research and one might start from his first posts on this board about BEHL starting with 12/05/2010. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/MemberPostsToBoard.aspx?userid=191577&boardid=12546
There one can follow a trail of why Pawson has been involved. Nodummy has only given factual data and given a lot of time to his work not only on BEHL, but many others and has his own board now. He is a good one to follow. Lot of real reading and DD and not quite the read of a fictional message board novel and takes quite a bit more work and diligence to read than some dream story, but is real DD. He does not pump or bash, just gives out information of whats there and leaves the option for thought process up to ones own interpretation of the stock, in this case BEHL.
He came here only because I asked him to and wasn't even aware of BEHL until I brought it to his attention and I greatly appreciate his time and abilities that was given to this BEHL deception.
There are of course other intelligent and truthful posters like BigBake and FuzzyGummyBear, and quite a few others (not going to name them all) that have given good information and facts. The real story has been only labeled as "bashing" by the dreamers and BS promoter, but is the story of reality.
But the posts and link given might be a good place to start for the question of Pawson to be answered if one just uses common sense and intelligence in reading of the research.
Thats where the problem lies as I just stated in my last post. The intent of Pawson and DF were not to do research and development of product, but to only marketing the idea which only led to any science leaving and not putting up with DFs and/or Pawsons intent of just selling shares, not any real valid or honest business. Both Shen and Goodall resigned (as well as others due to no payment for services or seeing the deception), not let go as some liars want to put out, due to the scam that was taking place and not being allowed to do any good for the product or company.
This was the same case as LOTM, the intent and criminal nature of what was and is going down with BEHL won't allow for any real science or real business to participate.
There are some that just don't want to look at the facts and believe BS promoters and have done nothing but loose their money in their dreams due to inability or unwillingness to look at the real facts instead of just lies.
Look at the chart for the last year, and tell the board what has "DF" done for the company. Nothing he has said has come true, his "leadership" has done nothing but driven this company to .0001-.0002. The next step on the downward staircase is .00000000000
Pawson and "DF" have done nothing for shareholders, that is a fact given the downward spiral of the pps. What is the worth of what you have and what someone wants to give for it is the story, not some made up bunch of bla, bla, bla and trying to find some blame. But if one really wants to find blame, then go to the real source, not somewhere, anywhere out of the dream. Just because it doesn't fit with non acceptance or the dream, doesn't mean it can't be realized. It just is taking some a very long time. Those slow on realizing reality are the ones who lose the most. FACT.
Whether or not he has a third eye may not be relevant, but his lifestyle, who he is and who he associates with, and the personality of what the baby name stealer is, and the continuous actions of any so called leader which are always deceptive when it comes to "DF" is a subject.
He was/is always just nothing but sales, lies, and BS. There was never anything that came to pass ever as he stated it and constantly has been caught in "untruths" and has used deceptive practices on a regular basis. There is lack of comments or analysis on others like Roger Pawson and promoters that continually lie and deceive that have played and are playing a part in only a shell share selling game which would not have allowed (or will allow) anything to succeed as far as any real business plan.
The technology is and always was in need of extensive research and development, was never completed and no real effort was given to completion in any timely manner. Instead, great lengths and extensive effort was in "marketing" the idea and selling off shares in which a major portion of monies were not given into the business, all in complete acknowledgment and awareness of DF and promoter(s).
This is not a matter of regular business discussion, but only a pinky shell money making enterprise discussion. There has been way too much criminal behavior that has been enlisted with this whole thing. To discuss regular real business concepts is out of place and in a different world than what has or is taking place with BEHL, "DF", Officers, or its employees. So really quite irrelevant to do so. If this was a real business, with a real business plan that was being executed, and not just a pinky stock "game", it might be a good debate.
The only thing left here is immoral undesirables just getting the last remaining monies out of the shell and there is no valid business to examine or continue with other than the shell game.
Of course all of this has already been discussed over and over on this board with factual data and statements that have done nothing but been proven true and anyone who looses at this point basically deserves to be taught the lesson. For it has all been laid out for some time now and one only has had too open the eyes, stop listening to liars and BS, and done some saving of ones financial worth by now. To sit and hope is only wallowing in self delusions now. No dream is going to come true for those who have denied the real truths that have been exposed for so long now. To make mistakes is one thing, to never except and continue to do the same mistake is what is truly detrimental.
That promoter is just a POS lier who's at the end of the rope dangling by a thread. Of course it was the SOS fault, it always is. It was the SOS of Nevada fault before for the shell game debacle, until it could be blamed on non paid ex-employees. Now its the Florida SOS. My grandkids are even smart enough to see through his BS, he just can't help himself though, got to look like a bigger fool than he is struggling on his last limp leg. .0001 is better than nothing if he can only hang on.
That office building is also for virtual office. "Call for pricing", but I'm sure it is quite cheaper than a real office there.
http://www.alliancevirtualoffices.com/US/scottsdale-virtual-office
Happy ones to you too Steve.
In my view and take, one then has dirty "things" like "Phaetons" helping, who only continue to lie to shareholders intentionally and with purpose, and to continue to purposely steal shareholder assets or value. The focus of Federal authorities and others are not "dead" as the perpetrators might think, maybe slow, but only have begun. And if they think just putting away the rotten wood puppet and trying to get a new puppet is going to work to hide their tracks, that may be their error in judgment. Again, just one opinion, but I'm sure I'm not he only one.
Well it looks like there are some holding on to their ankles and "turning around" and the VW is still trying to see if one can capitalize on it with this statement:
"One extraordinary loser BioCentric Energy, which had raised hopes with a promising series of announcements in the development of a closed-loop photobioreactor system, but appears to have all-but-collapsed in a series of major financial misjudgments for which the consequences may create some difficult personal consequences for individuals, and clearly wrought havoc on suppliers and employees for a good portion of 2010."
The Digest's Take is interesting.
http://biofuelsdigest.com/bdigest/2010/12/23/a-tale-of-two-algaes-dsm-to-acquire-martek-biocentric-energy-collapses-amidst-irs-bad-check-labor-crises/
I hear about how "DF" had guts and took it on the chin and BS like that. Thats a load of course, he was just about to have it all down his throat put there from his a$$ and he knew it. So he did the only thing he knows and try to put some spin on it the best he could.
He knew his stolen identity was going to be exposed, and the fact BEHL and himself had failed miserably and there was no money, no product, no real assets, and nothing but debt was mostly known already (other than ones who didn't want stop playing with the three monkeys). He basically didn't have any choice but what he did -- a little truth mixed in with some more lies. But he has no honor or "guts" and now he only basically said that this is a shell to try to continue selling with some last ditch effort to "turn around" some more people (and even some same ones) to give them some more of the same.
Roger Pawson is attempting to find a new puppet with this Michael Burton and continue raking in the same money he has been doing, getting every last .0001 of this game along with the "Baby name stealer" hoping to get some cut in the near future.
Still just a bunch of lier's, thieves, and crooks. They always believe in "there is a sucker born every minute" along with some are probably willing to still live in a fallacy, just "blame Ihub", and "turn around" once more to receive another dream.
Just "turn around", they'll show you.
I love the new "buzz" word that's been going around for buying and selling shell games. "Turnaround", you bet, sounds like a good buzz word to me. Those people have great experience in "turnarounds", all the bag-holders are in the middle of experiencing one. Just "turn around" they'll make ones dreams come true.
Well the truth sayers or "bashers" are going to continue to tell the truths about the crook DF or ? DF is a nothing, BS lier, and nothing is anybodies fault except mostly DFs and Pawsons.
Boo hoo hoo, poor DF, its others fault for telling truths, aww what a shame. If those 7-8 thousand whatever number, who knows what the real number is, would of listened to the truths, DF and his cohorts wouldn't have been able to be so responsible for the losses of BEHL.
My jaw would drop if they talked about how much money Roger Pawson has been taking. Yep, same people, same game, same song.
Not up to me whether or not a poster wants to post pics or has taken them, nothing I can do about it either way. I'm quite sure though that the condition described would be a pretty accurate description of the condition at BEHL headquarters.
Trying to put attention on minuscule details or made up "rumors" or "accusations" is not going to change the condition of this stock or what is going to happen and what has happened. But good for some "story" yet to be written I guess, maybe someone can make a TV movie or at least some B movie out of it.
I heard "allegedly" and "rumored" that this "DF" vandalized stuff to make it look like someone else did it. Lots of allegations and rumors floating around. This is fun.
I have no doubt that the doors are closed at BEHL headquarters, seems quite naive to think otherwise at this point. Over twenty years owning property and dealing in property management in both commercial and residential areas, nothing surprises me anymore on the condition of the way things get left.
Heavy accusations? What? Demian is doing the interview, thats involved. He's the one who told me that he had "a large position in BEHL". And the previous interviews and how he has conducted them is matter of record and they aren't "hard" interviews.
Do I think it's a scam when a shell is still selling shares for "investment" purposes and there are some who have done nothing but practically 7 days a week for months promoting BEHL and has been nothing but wrong on what they've said? Yes, for my purposes, I call that a scam and fully believe that it is.
One can go "WOW" and think what they want and continue to buy into this thing and think or believe its not a scam, thats their prerogative.
So don't even go with the "slander" and "libel" BS, thats what it is, just BS.
Like I said, the REAL surprises are yet to come. Stay tuned.