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Thanks!
Also wouldn't this document show that there was at least some attempt on the part of CVSU to trade on the pinks? That companies need to file this form before trading?
https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/658329/6583..." target="_blank">http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:mKL6Ka30W6UJ:https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/658329/6583....
Would this fall into place as being in the right place at the right time? Fhal falling apart? Auditors leaving for a reason ( as noted on 8k).
A way for Rufus to jump on board an OTC?
dare I ask what a soap opera sally is??????
DUH! a reverse split
????? Quit slurring? What did you say?
YUP, figured you all had a few cocktails by now and it's easy to have you spill your guts. I am sure you liquored up a few women or two to loosen them up! Works both ways! LOL! wink wink!
Serfdom, I am still awaiting an apology. I challenge you to go back 2 nights and repost where I was supposedly attacking you with the "others". I only had 3 posts in that time frame. You have charged me with guilt by association from just being in the same room at the same time. Also please note that one of my messages supported your claim - although I said I had counted 8 "followers".
here they are:
I've counted at least 8 so far...including the
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. (CSHD)
8/23/2006 2:52:03 AM
That might explain that stuff in the storage
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. (CSHD)
8/23/2006 1:37:33 AM
I use that zoom info site all the
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. (CSHD)
8/23/2006 1:15:49 AM
Sorry!!!!
Doesn't appear any cares anyhow. Too hung over from celebrating the 8k. Cripes talk about a let down. Everyone should review the SEC.Gov docs on Furia. Looks like some auditors quit over the company buying stock without public disclosure. Is David Hall the current auditor?
I do not believe those bonds will show up on the 10k that is expected out. I believe the 10k is for FHAL NOT CVSU or CSHD.
There are still other filings due first.
High Priestess Abby - you know the answer to this?
That vision just made me giggle!
Does this have anything to do with buying up stock?? It was buying Fhal stock in sec doc :
From October 24, 2005 through May 18, 2006, there were no disagreements between the Registrant and Murrell, Hall, McIntosh & Co., PLLP, on any matters of accounting principals or practices, financial statement disclosure or auditing scope or procedure, which disagreement(s), if not resolved to the satisfaction of the former accountant would cause it to make reference to the subject matter of the disagreement(s) in connection with its reports.
The former accountant reasons for resigning were the 10-QSB for the quarter ending March 31, 2006 was filed prior to their completion of their review and that the Company's purchase of its common stock violated certain loan covenants and were not properly disclosed to the public.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000044/front8k062106.htm
Is David Hall still the auditor? Or was that just for Fhal?
<< On June 15, 2006, the Company executed an engagement letter with David S. Hall, P.C., located at 100 Crescent Court, suite 700, Dallas, Texas 75201, to audit the consolidated financial statements of the Company for its fiscal year ending June 30, 2006, and the related statements of income, stockholders' equity, and cash flows for the year then ending. The Board of Directors approved the appointment of David S. Hall, CPA effective June 16, 2006.>>
The 10 K that everyone is expecting - isn't that just a 10k for FHAL and NOT for CVSU ?
Don't they have to file a S-4 to register all shares first as part of the merger?
Wouldn't a 10kA be the filing that includes all the numbers including the bonds?
Anybody?
Lens , dang you are really getting good at the guessing games! I was thinking the same thing! the 8k will string it out until the 10k is produced - or not. No harm in filing a 8k of a PR. They didn't really have to disclose how much of the bond was theirs. But the 10K will be the one signed off by auditors and will probably disclose how much of all those bonds are really owned. A totally differrent document. One that holds people accountable in courts of law. And just because it is filed won't mean the SEC has approved it as legit either. that is not their job. They don't audit the numbers of every filing that comes in.
Welcome GLENDA! When will everyone start to click their matching sneakers together and chant - "There is no place like Reality, There is no place like Reality" ? Maybe matching sneakers can't be "clicked"?
Wow! I feel totally hungover after that partying last night! Ouchee! No yelling please! You people sure do like to party hard - and use any excuse to party!
Ourstreet - I think this was the first time I clicked past your postings - ever heard of quality over quantity? I think fewer posts have more effect - I know the pumpers can't help "engaging in feeding the monkeys" as they like to call it BUT The quality of the posting drop dramatically when they feed you. In case you missed it - and I believe you did - you were totally upstaged last night by a masked hired gun. I'm still trying to recover.
Slam dunk for me. Not to mention we now have a good and evil LEADER (you can choose which one you belong to) Schadenfreude and ABBY giving marching orders to their troops. Everytime I think something is just a myth - it all gets destroyed on this board.
You've got it all here folks! Sit back and enjoy the show!
I used up all my posts for that "happening" last noc, but it was worth every post - even the deleted ones! (why by the way! - I demand equal rights!).
Why doesn't Rufus release those PR's during trading hours - more bang for your buck. His timing is off - IMHO.
Havenots! I thought I told you to go to bed!!!!! I do not want to waste another post telling you again! You need your strength for tomorrow.
Did you see the PR after midnight - just a reminder to everyone that they now have a bond from Finland even though it was in the 8k.
The person I think he was referring to was the one I thought that sounded like the Evangelist for the pumpers - abby - very creepy cultlike messages I thought. Read her posts. Like talking to brainwashed children. She obviously has written a few pages in the How to Bash Bashers handbook. She referred to watering flowers. Jannie is also pretty nasty these days. They have their orders - so be prepared. Just my own observations - and I do OBSERVE!
Sounds to me plenty of people here don't know squat about bonds - they keep thinking it is an asset! I could care less what you thought of that post - I thought it was great and informative - guess you knew more than me.
Damn I must say, what took place here tonight was better than SEX! WOWSER!!! I'm totally drained!
Havenots! Go to bed right now! End on a high note! Don't overstay your welcome! A MASTERPIECE my boy, a MASTERPIECE!
Thanks! I felt like my time was well spent tonite.
No way in hell that was OUR STREET! He has NEVER been anonymous in his life - believe me he would have wanted to take full credit for that conversation. He's been upstaged for sure!
Excited? Because the truth spoils the taste of the KOOL -AID! And I could taste the cyanide! And I ain't drinking it! Anybody need a size 6 1/2 pair of sneakers? I don't need them anymore!
Bizarre? I have seen the LIGHT BROTHER!
Read that posting again...the answer lies within! It right there in front of your eyes. There has NEVER been so much DD in such a short period of time! SHOCK AND AWE!!!!!! I'm exhausted!
Havenots YOU are NOT alone! There are many here that listened! stunning. Don't do anything more. No further proof is needed. They will set a trap to discredit this information. Stay away. Let them drink the kool aid. Your job is done! Best to you! And thanks for the show!
Damn I am pumped now!
and an insurance company too apparently
Read this later - I don't want to spoil this happening right now -it's too exhilararing!
Not to pull a BlueDiamond BUT since people are bring up the bond thing this IMO was great post -
Originally Posted by Korey
Honestly guys, the questions you all should be asking are not "How high will the price per share go tomorrow?" and “I wonder if they’ll give us a slice of that 2.6 billion?” but "Can CSHD stand on its own two legs?"
I am not going to make this a classroom lesson, as that is not what you all need right now. I will not highlight parts of the 8-K and say “This is what this means,” because, honestly, I doubt half of you would read it or even care. I'll probably go to sleep too, right after this instead of sticking around. But I do want to clear up a couple misconceptions that I’m afraid I see cropping up between the lines.
First: CSHD does not, does not, have 2.6, 1.6, or even 1 Billion dollars in assets (and I capitalize the “B” because that is a ton of money, enough to where if Google tomorrow found 2.6 billion dollars in in the closet people would go whoa).
CSHD has what we like to call debt. This is what they have; this is what the 8-K is telling us. Only the 8-K is telling us this because, frankly and unfortunately, they know that people like half of those in this thread will not read the 8-K. They will read 2.6 Billion in assets. And cowbells. And moons. And in their misinterpretation they will buy, the pps will rise, liquidity will be gained, and certain people will make money. This is why the 8-K was released.
CSHD has “purchased” a line of credit in essence. Yes, a bond is very secure, yes a bond backed by a Moody’s rating in the A’s is even better. In addition to understanding what a bond is, you should also know what side of the bond a person is on. And somehow I get the feeling people are thinking ole Rufus (who won the totally unrelated “Look I can make campaign contributions to buy this Good Republican Award) is sitting on the other side of the bond.
Yes, that’s right, CSHD is the one paying, not receiving. They have a license to do their business, make money in the way capitalism intends us all to, and borrow off of that beautiful, beautiful line of credit if necessary.
Second: CSHD does not have the ability to take these 2.6 Billion in “assets” and buy whatever they want with them. They can’t just up and buy a few dozen companies because, well, shit, they have the money. They don’t.
Where in this 8-K did you all find that CSHD has 2.6 Billion to do with whatever they feel like? Does it say anywhere that the entirety of these loans is given freely to Conversions to go buy Great Pandas in China should they feel like it? No. And let’s keep in mind also that CSHD both neither the trustee of this trust account nor has any sort of fiduciary control over it or its management of the money.
So if the first part has sunk in yet, and we now realize that “Damn, CSHD does not have 2.6 Billion in moolah laying around,” let’s let this second part sink in. Not only do they not have 2.6 Billion in moolah, they have limited access to the use of that 2.6 Billion even in loaned form. Once again, CSHD= No 2.6 Billion in moolah.
Let us also keep in mind that they already announced a bond earlier, much in the same way this was announced (albeit a bit less large). What happened after that? No, unfortunately no new pps levels were set. People realized what the two points are saying. Bond news does not equal instant sums of money for the company to but MiG jets for all its employees. The company still has to work hard, no free ride, it just gets a lift/push.
Ok. Sunk in? Here's what you all have to decide: does CSHD have legs? Read the financials, I know I did. They are making money, not much compared with 2.6 Bil, but money. Keep in mind that webvan was a company that had active, trading stock after they had no more vans. That is penny stocks for you. Make sure you at least know what CSHD does. Look at past activity from them, vision for the future, etc. I'm not tryin to push you to all be fundies (I'm a techie myself ) but at least know what your company does. So, big question: Do you, you personally, no one else but you, believe that CSHD has legs and teeth to make a strong company, take advantage of these bonds, and make you some moolah? Discuss this, but do not let anyone but yourself make this decision for you.
Damn THAT guy is one SMART SQUIRREL!!!! Stunning.
The mods damn well better not delete that! It a matter of National Security. I spotted the EVANGELIST tonight - it doesn't get better than that! I love her orders! Mesmerizing! I know her followers! Astounding!
Havenots! Run for your life! Throw the kool aid in their faces! Do NOT give up your source - EVER! Run! Don't listen to them! Don't look into their eyes! Be strong! You can do it! Go with your heart! Please Havenots Please!
Havenots - May the Force be with you!! The Evil one has arrived and given instructions to all those wearing matching sneakers and drinking kool-aid - they are waiting for the Mother Ship to beam them up. Do NOT attempt to resusitate! Sleep well my friend.
Good Luck.
Excuse me Schadebfreude, are you on the right board? You are a little bit too reasonable and civilized for this board. Please state your name, rank, and IP address before making any further statements!LOL!
I look forward to more of your postings, whoever you are. Thanks for the clarity. Never too late to learn.
cindyyoohoo.
Would you care to comment on the 10k.(the phantom one) It is my understanding that when the 10k is filed you can view the exact moment it is filed with the SEC on the SEC.GOV site and that the SEC does not "review" them first and then release them. Is this correct? thx
Serfdom, I am waiting for an apology for this posting. Just stating that Jannie did it is not good enough. You slandered me without the proper DD. Now I must question ALL your DDPosted by: serfdom
In reply to: CuttinRog who wrote msg# 53020 Date:8/23/2006 12:28:06 PM
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Slayton was the most vocal, he had support from someone with a woman's name, (possibly Cindy yoohoo) I dunno, there are so MANY of them it's abslolutey wild.
Then, when I told Slayton point-blank I didn't want his stock - another guy with a number for an alias showed up and posted one-liner insults at me.
He began with "moron" and eventually worked his way up to me being "queer."
My last two PMs were from Cindy I think - she was concerned that I migh be homophobic, and offered assistance to help me come to terms with my "sexuality."
. Since you made this accusation publicly, please apologize to me publicly. Thank you Cindyyoohoo from whoville
I have NEVER PMed anyone. How dare you! I give you permission to post ANY and ALL pm's from me immediately. The tos say that if you have the person's permission you can post it. I have never ever pmed anyone - I can't! I am not a member. I can receive pm's which I have received some. but nothing of what you are talking about.
Mods I ask you to immediately ban this guy for spreading rumors if he does NOT post the pm's he says he has from me immediately! Thank you!
HSM fair? HA! You obviously didn't witness THEIR personal attacks on Bud yesterday. It was worse than here. Not to mention I believe it was one of their posters(phil) that dug up the stuff on Bud. Had his picture and insults posted all over the place. Immature idiots. Maybe you would fit in if that's the behavior you want. And believe me they are pretty quick on the delete and ban basher button. You haven't been following it obviously. I have. Bashers NOT allowed.
Heck, no. I am NOT asking you to leave. Just your "research" project that has nothing to do with the company. we don't need a blow by blow as to what the posters are up to. I already figured that out a month ago. Stick with company info. Thanks!
And I am not wasting another post to respond to any of your questions unless they are about the company. thx
mikie your prolly rite.
Yeah, take your research project somewhere else.
Why oh why do you people keep posting about OURSTREET - GIVE IT UP!!! No one cares - he has zero effect on what this stock will or won't do! Have you really run out of things to post?? Something, anything about the company would be useful. I am beginning to think there is NOTHING to pump here - so all you do is BASH. Please have whoever is distributing the CSHD Pumpers Guide to Slam Bashers rip that stupid page out! You sound like total idiots.
You are hurting this stock by this type of trash talk. Please stop it!
SLAYTON???? From his posts I find that hard to believe. are you sure he wasn't being sarcastic?
What the heck does the word PROLLY mean???? I noticed 2 different (same) person uses that word - or is it some word that is only known to XKEM posters??? Just wondering.
Continued - great post - informative!!!!!
Here's the post from Chartwalker on Allstocks...
posted August 23, 2006 03:45
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Good Morning Board.
Yesterday I set out with some of your help to try to get an oversea account that shorted Pennystocks, well let me tell you what I found out
First, all these places have to conform to the same rules of the game that we do, they don't get to do things we can't! I know talk is cheap so all links and numbers are provided...
Let's start right here before we go over seas...
1-800-669-3900 TD Ameritrade (24/7)
Called and asked about their shorting policy.
Q. Can I short Penny stocks?
A. Yes, as long as they are a 1 "marginable stock" and that there are 2 "shares to borrow available" and 3 they MUST be at least $2.50 in price. Any OTCBB stock is NOT a "marginable security" but any NYSE or NASD stock most likely is...
*note, must meet all 3 criteria
Now it's Schwabs turn.
1-866-232-9890
Q. Can I short Pennystocks with you?
A. "As long as the Pennystocks are "marginable" (OTCBB = NOT marginable) and they have to be at least $2.50 in price. If they are below $2.50 it doesn't pay to short them because there is a $2.50 PER SHARE FEE plus commissions to do so, so shorting a dollar penny stock would cost you commissions + $2.50 PER SHARE." <--That's a quote from Schwab!!
1-866-232-9890!
Q. Can I short CSHD, is it a marginable security?
A. "Just a minute.... -No it is not a marginable security."
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That my dear fellow traders is straight from the horses mouth!
So that letter Schwab sent out has NOTHING to do with selling shares to short sellers right now! Period!!!
1-866-232-9890 Call them! 24 hours a day!!!
That's what they said, in fact he looked it up and read it to me, word for word!!!
So........ What's up with the letter from Schwab?...
Perhaps Schwab is one of the institutions Rufus is talking with, maybe thay are preparing themselves for a IPO open at $15 or higher of CSHD and preparing for short selling THEN? -Or are they covering naked shorts from when CSHD was trading and none of us had our certs and Rufus was holding the float??? Is that what Rufus meant by saying unstitutions will be lined up to buy? -to cover the naked sharts?
I don't know ~ Just thinking out loud with that part.
Pure and simple, if Schwab doesn't need the shares NOW to cover short selling, -then why the letter asking to borrow shares???? That is a dang good question!
I do believe that there are Naked Shorts to be covered from when our shares were froze. Those days when millions of shares were traded, -where did they come from if Rufus has the float???? Is this why the price manipulation with our Share price is happening??
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An example of a useful post - "borrowed" from HSM
Today, 10:55 AM #1862
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HSM Regular
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 340
Real life example that "Short Interest" reports are not about short selling:
DENVER, CO, Aug 16, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Summus Works, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: SMMW) and ********** announced the following updated coverage of SMMW trade statistics by ********** after releasing the latest short sale data to August 2006. Previous releases under-reported the total trade volume and approximate total short volume due to statistical deficiencies involving massive amounts of SMMW trade data. From January 2005 to August 2006 approximately 121.46 billion total aggregate shares of SMMW have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $17.55 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 9.35 billion shares.
This isn't a report of 9.35 BILLION Shorted shares... it's the number of shorts that must be covered. (naked?)
SMMW stock is trading at .0001
Who in there right mind would short 9.35 BILLION shares of this at Schwab at $2.50 a share!!!!!!!?????
I Challenge anyone to find a broker who will short SMMW at .0001 or CSHD or any other stock below $2.50! Can't be done because it isn't "marginable" according to Schwab, and if there is one I could not find it.
Call Schwab....... 1-866-232-9890
And if you could Schwab said it would cost you $2.50 PER SHARE, so how the heck do you make over $2.50 (+ commissions) on a stock trading at .0001 by shorting it!!!!!!
Again... the above "Real Life Example" IS NOT about short selling 9.3 Billion shares of SMMW, the books had "short Interest" of that amount...
http://
otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest.asp
Is a site about "Short Interest" and NOT shorting stocks.
"NASD Rule 3360 has been expanded to require NASD member firms to report their short positions on all over-the-counter ("OTC") equity securities..."
"They" haven't shorted penny stocks....
That is why this list has value, because the books need to be balanced, and as long as we (CSHD) are on this list, then we can expect the price to be driven down as they "balance the books" if you will...
It's almost 2:30 am now, gonna get some rest been on this all day long and my head needs a rest but wanted to share this with you all.
Did my best, hope this enlightens ~
PLEASE do DD on this, make the calls, read the sites and let's make sure every "T" is crossed here. I don't want any human error on my behalf to filter through.
I have written what I was told when I called...
After I post this I'll look to make sure the links are there, I put a space in them, take that out. Otherwise I'll repost them quick.
I'm spent ~
G-Night...
I've counted at least 8 so far...including the mods. Not a coincidence.
Don't forget the mods that left. I've been connecting the dots with the insults.
Also Serfy, Bohogirl is our Grammar/Spelling nazi on this board. But maybe she went nuts reading and trying to correct all the messages. ou might need to pick up the slack! We all make typing errors!
That might explain that stuff in the storage place - a chainsaw! LOL! I am not sure all those articles are the same Paul Harris. Obviuosly the Bban was is, but not necessarily all of them.
I use that zoom info site all the time! It links up all sorts of info.
Happy to see you still DDing! This is the info people here should be focused on. Thanks for sharing it!
Hope you weren't one of the ones in that childish meanspirited attack on Bud. I couldn't step in because I was out of posts. Why didn't the mods? I realize they think of Bud as a turncoat but that should have been stopped. It reminded me of how kids acted in 7 and 8th grade - really mean to each other - just a way to deal with their own insecurities. It was pretty depressing to watch. I hope people at least feel some guilt from that and apologize - although the damage is done now. Wow! sure was an example of what herd mentality is capable of!
I was really disappointed that Jannie was that vicious - usually women are more empathetic to situations like that. TSK, TSK the kids today!