Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
I don't see anything in there tying those bonds to conversion solutions...
Looks like you just tried to find a negative link with venezualan bonds associated with it...
Why are you spending so much of your time researching the potentially negative aspects of this stock? you have a lot of free time? or do you have an interest in destroying the pps?
Or do you actually care about the welfare of uninformed stockholders (particularly conversion solutions stock holders for some inane reason)...?
what Cramer did not mention was that hedge funds and inside trader hogs make money as well....
It's the small time investor pigs that get slaughtered...
yep, and you are a well known shorter. So if you are shorting this stock (of which we have no proof of course.. but neither can it really be disproved without opening up your portfolio somehow), then you have an interest in bashing it.
quid pro quo... has anyone been able to refute Rufus as well?
Rufus has already addressed some of the allegations.. now whether or not you beleive Rufus or not is another issue.
And yes, he has a right to make a demand for a retraction - there is nothing to say what he has or does not have to do - especially considering that he already has answered many of the allegations, and some of the others are not answerable, by anybody except by the SEC for example.
And yes, you have every right to be suspect of any deal. I haven't seen anything bulletproof in this stock (deal could be pulled out at the last minute, or more likely, the stock will not hold $15 even if it is set to it)... But that is the risk you take.
yeah Rufus... the DD looks okay.. what's the holdup? You trying to lure the price down for some reason? More technical holdups... ? Auditor being slow?
too bad for them then... they could have made more money if this thing had gone higher...
My guess is either late thursday or sometime friday...
I'll see it when I beleive it...
Is there any data to suggest how many shorts there are? Just curious...
I suspect that many shorts have already covered...
My dream said that stocks would be going around in circles today...I don't know what fhal will do however...
you think people sit by their phones all day? Do you sit by your home or office phone all day? Even if it means not using the bathroom, doing laundry, buying food, etc etc...?
call in certs then if you beleive there are a lot of FTD's out there for IPRE...
they will have to cover. However, it could be just regular shorting and not naked shorting... (the latter is akin to counterfeiting)... From what I read on the FHAL board, most places when you buy on cash, cannot be naked shorted. Generally speaking margin accounts can be naked shorted. But even then, some brokerages have limits on them (they have to be over a certain amount, etc)..
From what I've seen MUME has gone up and down on extremely low volume. That implies that you aren't going to make a lot of money there (depends on what you consider alot of course).
I personally wouldn't invest in there because it could be going up do to MM manipulation (trying to get suckers in)...
But if you are a good daytrader.. who knows.. maybe you can make a little bit of cash...
Do you think you have a good chance of winning? you need proof... and you need some sort of law to back you up...
Just curious...
I thought about investing in that stock 2 days ago... although it looks promising there are still 2 questions I have:
1. Does the technology work? They supposedly have a prototype that they are going to run tests next week.
2. They've had a history of delays..
If the technology works and if they can successfully market this, then it looks great...
congradulation bashers.. thanks for ruining my portfolio...
that would be one of the worst wording of a disclaimer I have ever seen then...
They should have put a disclaimer similar to that on stocklemon or whatever... saying "third parties may have blah blah blah"..
And that still does not address the other issues about the site (the date of creation, the amount of money paid doesn't make sense, etc)..
and let me guess you're giving us all this information because you are altruistic...
Even if some of the information is "incomplete", or relies on information which is suspect.
If you were honest you would include ALL information, not just the information that makes this stock look bad. stockmafia was created July 24th, 2006. If you listened to the interview Rufus was not involved in the Scam at BBAN, he was just hired late in the game and was surrounded by shorters and crooks. Now admittedly, this is what Rufus said... but why don't basher's include this information?
Do your own DD, listen to the mp3 tapes. I will admit that this company has some risk with it, I won't deny it. But I have seen inuendo and negative speculation and incomplete facts posted to this BB in regards to FHAL.
If you have access to Eurobonds than you can verify the bond information.
But nope, even after this gets repeated, they just keep repeating the same thing over and over again... They are apparently either not doing their DD or have an agenda, or are repeating what other poeple have said.
But why would they pay $250k for it when they could just as well put up their own web site. That would much much cheaper than 250k..
And the timing is impeccible. If they had any two cents worth of knowledge they would have chosen a well established site, not one made up on the 24th... I'm sorry Rufus is many things but he is not stupid.
And why would they put the disclaimer there as to make it so obvious? If anything it makes much more sense to not include the disclaimer if they were really paid that much.
I don't know... I don't care... I could speculate that it is panic selling and MM, but don't have enough information on that... i would say that it walked down from 1.30 to about 1.00 on mm action alone... it could be mm action now as well, but it seems to be a bit more subtle if it is, or it could be panic selling.
I frankly don't care what the stock does today... price will be reset to something way higher and we can walk our way down from there..
No, there is no proof of getting $15/share. The price is to be set at $15/share and then the market will then determine the price. Have you read the previous messages of the boards?
Do your dd...
I live in Greensboro, NC.. maybe I could drive by there and check it out.. only 1 hour and some change away...
bid is 1.09 and ask is 1.05... looks like MM manipulation to me.. (again)...
By that logic, I could just say that I see this as legtimate and make up a website that says "this website got paid $250k to bash FHAL", and on the front of the page it says fhal is going down to .01, just to make bashers look bad.
I'm curious as to why someone would go through all the trouble of apparently paying someone to bash this stock ($13.50 or whatever per response, assuming that is true - which we don't know), and also setting up a website to bash this stock?
Someone has a lot of shorts to cover? Or is someone trying to short this stock? Or is there another reason?
Now that is odd.. according to http://www.betterwhois.com/
that site was created July 24th, 2006... and expires one year...
I heard him say that.. but what people say and what actually happens aren't always the same thing...
This is not to imply that Rufus is deceiving anyone (not intentionally anyway), it's just that there are always details and events that come up that unforseen either by the investor(s) or by the owner(s).
I'm curious as to why the big investors don't get in now as to opposed to later... are they waiting for the 10k too?
I think it'll waffle around this price until the next interview or news or until the 10k hits. Once the 10k hits and everything checks out okay.. it zoom up (to what level I don't know)... Then after the $15, watch it drop like a rock (probably to the $1.50 to 5 dollar level would be my guess), unless Rufus has something up his sleeve. Eventually it should go up as long as the company has good fundamentals that can attract large investors though.
probably be back up to 1.30 tommorow.. don't think it'll go back to 1.60... scared too many people away.. ;)
People are too jittery about bb's and pinks and rightly so...
they should have release this news either soon or later.. there is too much going on with other BB's that might be taking attention away from this stock... paiv,paim, fhal, wwen, etc...
Admittedly there is always 1 stock in the spotlight, but still, timing is everything..
The only thing I can think of is if James and/or Ken said something at las vegas and someone spread word to the MM's or to some bulletin board.
But federal disclosure laws state that if you tell one person, you have to tell everybody. I'm curious as to where they got their information.
yes.. even though this could be just a way of restoring investor confidence.. some may look on it as investor manipulation..., especially when they investigate the previous companies owned by Ken where they did the same thing F/S then R/S, etc etc etc...
This seems pretty odd.. how did the MM's know to trade 1-2 days right before this news hit? Or was their insider information going around?
Is there public records on this? Or did they use their ouiji boards?
There are federal disclosure laws for this...
They're covering their shorts... good time to be a daytrader on here.. sell some high, buy some low... or at least that is what I suspect is happening..
Don't be, this is just profit taking and MM action... and people panicking.. the fundamentals of this company are still here..
Daytrayders should jump back in at a lower price.
yep... don't fhal for it... ;) actually I thought this would happen today.. didn't want to say anything. There probably several shakes today... but I think it'll wind up back where it is...
you've been trading penny stocks since the 1960's? But your profile says you are 26... Are you a leap year person?
No, it makes perfect sense... if you are covering your shorts, you don't cover them all at once (that would drive the price up the roof)... what you do is cover some (which drives up the price)... walk it down.. then repeat the process..