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There is about a half billion owed to the subs for the purchase agreements at todays share price, and then over 1/4 billion in warrants to cornell and others. That over doubles the shares or is about 100 percent dilution, and does not include the SEDA shares or options or the shares for the preferred.
no kidding. Since when does the definitive agreement come at the closing? It dont take a rocket scientist to know the definitive agreement has to be reached well in advance of the closing, since this definitive agreement spells out the purchase price and conditions.
I dont understand how you think that both occur at the same time or the end of the month. And yes I got my forms mixed up, it is an 8-k NEOM stated they woulod be filing when the difinitive deal was signed.
I have been to all the places you mentioned. At Konigsee we had to go out to an island to get a fishing license. Very nice country there. I was also at a mountain climbing course in Bergesgarten for 2 weeks. Of course that was all about 25 years ago so i bet its so much different now. Loved to go to Munich as well. And Austria was nice with the horse and buggys etc back then.
Maybe I am confused. What does how many codes one software will read, have to do with whether it will read that code on most cell phones or not?
As for Qode, it doesnt read all the codes yet either does it? And it dont work on all cell phone platforms does it? I thought that was the comparison being made, that OP3s does work on more platforms then NEOMs, at least it did before they just announced Java2.
It was stated that an S-3 would be filed when a definitive agreement was signed, and that was supposed to happen no later the 27 October 2006. And its required that an S-3 be filed if I am not mistaken. You cant file the S-3 notifying the shareholders the day of the closing, the agreement has to be solidified well ahead of that date, so the closing preparations can take place in the following month. Same as selling a home, you dont sign the contract the day before you close, you usually sign the contract a month or more in advance of the closing, to give all parties time to line up all thier necessary obligations.
So the question is why isnt the contract signed yet? And more importantly I doubt if there is no definitive agreement yet, that you will see a closing scheduled the end of this month. Banks and Attorneys dont work that quick generally.
Yes and they are 2 years old so they havent had 10 years to develope their programs for some of these different cell phone platforms that have been out at least that long.
Well I have been away since friday and I see nothing changed. No definitive agreement, Scanbuy requests to file a motion for summary judgement and so on.
As for your question about the hold up on the pup shares, well its about the same as the Ipoint dividend shares that we havent seen in 2 years, and about the same as the definitive agreement that seems to be lost. Lets not forget how long it took them to get the S-3 approved last year. Wasnt it a 12 month quiet period or close to it?
Seems nothing goes as it should when NEOM is involved.
Can Qode right now take a pic of a QR code and take you to that web site? I didnt think so.
So I guess at this time it dont cover it all does it. Matter of fact maybe you should read JPs post the other day. I believe all Qode can dechipher at this time is AZTEC.
I also think it was stated here that the companies goal at this time is to first get QODE to operate on all cell phone platforms, which it presently CAN NOT do. Once that is accomplished then I think it was stated they will work on making QODE able to read all codes out there. So its a bit premature to say it does it all at this point dont you think, when it cant even read the codes out there, as is testified by JP himself the other day in reference to the QR code on pondering primate.
And who was saying they wouldnt defend their patents? The discussion was what their patents cover or dont cover, not whether they will defend them.
So if you have some objections about the discussion of what their patents cover, then lets here them. Otherwise your posts contributed nothing to the discussion and were merely personal attacks, because no one ever suggested NEOM wouldnt defend their patents.
By the way have they gone after anyone using QR codes yet? I didnt think so. Do you have any ideas why they have not? Could it possibly be because those using QR codes arent traversing their patents? I bet that has a lot to do with it.
Maybe you need to reread your own source in the other post you just recently posted, to get a better understanding of the technology so you arent so confused.
As your source states NEOMS paperclick or now QODE does not direct connect in the true sense of the word. Your own source states NEOMs technology is backwards or the direct opposite of others and requires you register your codes with them in a data base that is then used to direct you to a web site. That is not direct connection. And its exactly what has been said here so where you are getting coinfused i dont know. We have talked in depth about NEOMs patent requiring you be routed to a resolution servor. Thats a fancy name for the DATA BASE.
QR codes do not direct you to a resolution server or data base, that is direct connect, since the URL to go to is right in the code.
Yes NEOMs Qode can connect you directly to a web site like cellufun, if it can read the code with the embedded URL in it. But that is not what their patent covers. Their patent covers routing you to a DATA BASE where the code is compared to those stored in that DATA BASE and then the URL returned to your cell phone. Big difference between the two dont you think.
So when NEOM uses the term direct connect in their PR for cellufun, are they using that term in the true sense, or are they using it because its a seamless connection as far as the customer knows? They certainly arent direct connecting you based on a code with an embedded URL, because we already know their platform cant read those codes yet. And as far as I know they dont have their own codes that would have an embedded URL available.
Instead of using the PR where NEOM used the words direct connect, why dont you find it in the patents for us where they say they will direct connect you, without using a resolution server? I dont think you will have any success.
And like I said go look at your own source link again. According to this authour you are relying on, NEOM requires a data bank of all issued codes, whether they be bar, qr or other to compare your pic to, before it can connect you to anything.
Spewing false information.....Are QR codes violating NEOMS patents? Please explain how they are in your opinion, if that is your opinion.
NEOM does not have a patent that says anything about an URL embedded directly in the code. If they do show us the patent please.
This patent involves doing a data base search to find the information you are looking for, over the internet and Global servers. It does not cover direct connect using GPS coordinates.
It also mainly encompasses using a wireless device to gain access to the internet such as a pda or laptop, although it does specify that a wap device could also be in the code.
But again its a MOBILE SEARCH ENGINE basically and not a direct connect code like we were discussing here.
I didnt say anything about location based search. Search requires you go to a servor or data base and match certain parameters to come up with a solution. NEOM does not have patents on any of the GPS technology. Only if that technology uses their certain PROCEDURE which they have patented.
Its funny how some of you want to claim that technology thats been around for decades is all covered under NEOMs patents that were just filed in the past few years. As has been stated here several times by a few posters, there are ways to work around patented PROCEDURES.
Please show us NEOMs patent that states that a direct URL embedded in the code is using their PROCEDURE. Then show us their patent that states that the phone can contain the demographics in the decoder, thus not using a resolution server over the internet to direct you where you want to go. I believe that all of NEOMs patents require that you use their RESOLUTION SERVOR which then sends the information back to the cell phone. What if you dont need anything sent back to the cell phone, but the cell phone determines where to send you instead?
As for telling someone else to tell the whole story or dont tell it at all, I have to laugh hearing that statement coming from you. Besides this being a message board its a little difficult to get the whole story in one post dont you think?
By the way, this bridge that NEOM owned keeps getting bigger and bigger, and some are already collecting tolls. Is NEOM? As far as I know they arent collecting much on their PC, although some of the subs are making revenue on their marketing campaigns. But who is collecting the tolls for the QR platforms in use already?
Exactly correct Bodreaux. The GPS software is already imbedded into the phones thanks to government regulations pertaining to the 911 system, and being able to identify the location of the caller, and cell phone operators are still debating whether to open up that feature to marketing, according to the latest articles I have read on the subject. But its more likely then not they will open it up due to the increased revenue they will see from the marketing side.
So the location part is already in place, and adding the gender and age to the decoder is a very simple step, and the phone will determine the demographics and send you to the right web site. If you are looking for a nearby restruant then all thats needed is the GPS feature, since age and gender dont really matter.
To go even 1 step further, lets say you are interested in buying a new car after seeing a SATURN billboard with a QR code on it. The QR code can be written to induce a menu on your phone where you can select which model Saturn you are most interested in. You select the model by keying the number next to that model, and instead of going to Saturns generic web site and having to page through the menu there, you are taken directly the the web site page containing the features on that model.
The options that are available in that simple QR code are only limited by the number of characters you can enter into it. But it can accomplish everything that NEOMs IP can do in my opinion.
So again in my opinion, its a matter of who is first to market, and who can sell their IP the best.
Very true. The code is open source and the patents not being inforced, but I dont think the same is true for the decoders, although I havent researched that aspect of the QR code yet.
But Microsoft would probably go with the code already being adopted by many here in the US since as I said its tried and in large scale use in other markets as well.
JUST TO CL:ARIFY FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME. I didnt say their patents are limited to their smart codes. I said their CODE was called the smart code. Matter of fact I spent a lot of time in that same post explaining their decoding other codes, so its obvious I wasnt saying they can only work one code. What I did say quite clearly though is they own zero patents for these other codes and are limited to decoding them period. And to do so they will have to buy a license from those who do own the patents on these other codes decoding mechanism, such as QR codes, shot codes, and standard bar codes.
In other words the only code they have exclusivity to is their own smart code, which to date no one has seen.
Yes they have patents that detail a process to link OTHER PEOPLES codes to a URL, and at this point thats all they have. When they announced paperclick initially it was supposed to be a self contained process using their very own smart codes.
And as I have stated in the past repeatedly, the bar codes you refer to as being covered in that pr, are only covered using NEOMS PROCESS. Other processes were in existence long ago to decode bar codes to servors, so all NEOM has patented is their PARTICULAR PROCESS with those bar codes, plain and simple.
My thoughts on this issue is that Microsoft will adopt something along the lines of the QR code for a few reasons. The first one being the most critical. QR is already tested and successful in a major market, so the results are already able to be assessed as to its effectiveness. The two patents you have mentioned here so far, have no effect on QR codes what so ever. The one in the post I am responding to, is in reference to computers and requires the operator inputing at least 1 of the codes into a template to be directed to a web site. The other we already discussed requires the data being sent to a resolution servor to be decoded and then that info returned to the cell phone. I think there was a third patent I read about here about retrieving a COMPUTER FILE on a network. Again has nothing to do with QR code.
Keep in mind that NEOMs original patents referred to their use of a SMART CODE, which is different then a standard bar code. Their smart code would have contained additional data that a standard bar code did not contain to direct a user to a web site. Yet has anyone here seen a NEOM smart code yet? Instead we are seeing shot codes, QR codes etc., coming to markets and no NEOM smart codes. So what really is the old paper click at this point and time? Just a decoder of others codes? Other then it taking someones code and then directing the user to a web site, what is it? QR can do the same thing without using NEOMs patents so what do they offer at this time that QR doesnt offer? And by the way the US postal meters used by some are already using the QR code. I scanned one I recieved the other day but to post it here I would need to upload it to a site to link to, but I am sure if you all watch your mail I bet you all will see at some point a QR code in the top right next to the postage. This is the other reason I believe that Microsoft will adopt the QR codes, since they are already being adopted by other institutions in the US. And do you think the postal service using QRs is violating NEOMs patents? I doubt it seriously, and we know they arent paying NEOM licensing fees, so just how much does NEOM control this bridge?
Also on the issue of QODE being able to read all the other codes being developed, at what price will it be able to decode these codes? NEOM does not hold the patents on decoding any bar code symbols or any new codes being developed, and will have to license that technology themselves if they want their platform to decode others codes. We already know NEOM is having to pay licensing fees to others just for their basic core platform which still isnt funtioning fully to our knowledge. If you look at their financial statements their COST OF REVENUE is about 75 percent of all revenue generated. Cost of revenue does not include operating expenses such as payroll etc, so just why is the cost of revenue so high? I can understand it being high on the paint business because they have to buy the materials before they can resell them, but the paint is a small amount of that 75 percent cost of revenue. The remaining amount for the tech dept must be mostly licensing fees NEOM is paying to others. And that number will climb as they try to include all these other codes into their decoding capabilities.
No its not the same thing. The demographic code can be a part of the decoding software you have to install on your phone. When you initially use the decoder whether its pre loaded or you install it, part of the set up process is that you have to enter this information into it, if you want the QR codes to be more specific to you. Certainly your cell phone and the decoder software are not a resolution server. And you have to have the decoder software anyhow.
Someone in another post mentioned how the NEOM codes can be changed on the fly. How are the codes changed on the fly? Once a code is printed and applied to an item that code cant be changed on that item. Yes they can go to the database and change the code for future items that are identical, but you can do that with any printed code. Same goes for QR codes. For instance if the QR code is placed on every bottle of coke, and the coke management wants to change the site or the information they are putting on the bottles you design a new QR code with the new info and start putting it on new bottles. NEOMS smartcode they propesed using would have to do the same thing to change the code.
This is my last post why I am answering or replying to 2 at 1 time.
The QR code can be programmed to include demographics as well. Its not just limited to an URL or the info on a business card.
For instance lets say a poster is put up in a certain city. GPS coordinates can be included in the QR code that tells the website when launched what city and what location in the city you are at when you took that pic.
The other demographics such as age and gender I believe can be worked out as well, perhaps by accessing a program on your phone where you stored such information so when ever you click on a QR code it checks that small program on your phone and then sends the appropriate data and sends you to the appropriate section of the URLs website.
Since marketing by cell phone will be an opt in experience, it seems natural to have a program on the phone that the QR code would be directed to before launching the website URL. Thats an easy work around to the demographics issue.
NEOMs patents require that the code be sent back to a server where it is then deciphered and a url is produced which is then sent bact to the handset browser and the site is launched.
QR code has the URL directly placed in the code so there is no need to go bact to a server to decipher. So the QR code is actually better then NEOMs platform, because you illiminate the middleman server. When you take the picture of the QR code you go straight to the website embeded in it. Or the QR code could have all the info on your business card. Taking the picture would give you the phone number and all the other info that would appear on the card.
I wonder if that statement applies to paid pumpers? It seems that they reappear every time they get a little nugget to hang their hat on as well.
Just look at yesterday for example. I think there was around 50 posts total for the entire time the market was open or over 6 hours. This morning it seems there was that many in an hour from the pumping camp. So who really is the ones showing up when the opportunity is in their favor?
DRmyke..........thats not necessarily true. Many times when companies partner there is a requirement in the agreement that each company invest in the other as a sign of good faith, especially if the deal involves no money. I believe that NEOM has themselves entered into similiar deals in the past but would have to go back and recheck old records to confirm that.
However, whether NEOM has or hasnt isnt the point I am making. I know many companies I have researched have made such deals and required the other company to do some type of investment to show good faith, so its not necissarily that there was a leak of the news.
This has what to do with NEOM? And what you thought just happened to be wrong as is the case so often. I never said I would give my phone number to anyone. What I did say and the post is still there, is anyone with concerns could PM me with their questions and I would respond to those PMs that I deemed legitimate. I even went so far as to say certain posters need not attempt, because I would only respond to those I felt legitimate.
As for my Farewell, I changed my mind. Last time I checked I am allowed to do exactly that. Part of that reason was a change in moderators, which was the reason I was leaving to begin with.
PEEVEECEE.the moderators are doing a good job trying to filter it out, but they cant get every post every second. But you are right some here think this board is about me and not NEOM and continue on and on and on and on and on.
NEOM.....you were here posting and reading messages when all that info was posted, so apparently you dont have my number, if you didnt even keep up with that info.
As for what other shareholders think of the stock, that is not your concern, unless you think you should control other shareholders views in order to increase your value in the stock. If you buy Pepsi stock, is it your concern to go around making sure every shareholder agrees with your assessment of Pepsi-Co? I dont think so? Each shareholder has the responsibility to have their own views, after reading both negative and positive aspects of the company, from what ever source they feel.
If you dont like what other investors think of the stock then its your option to sell that particualr stock or ignore what those other investors think. Not call them out on their credibility or motives as you have done.
The same could be applied to your credibility or motives, but have I done that to date? No because it is a violation of the IHUB rules. I will quaestion any information you may want to post about NEOM which I disagree with, but I have never questioned your motives or credibvility to date have I?
So please stick to discussing NEOM, and if you disagree with something I have posted then lets debate that issue, not whether I am a shareholder or how many shares, or my motives or my credibility ok? Thats what this board is for. By the way I might add that I am one of the very few that has been right about this stock and where its heading for the past 10 months, so my credibility speaks for itself and is all there as a matter of public record. I wish I could say the same for the majority of posters here who have been wrong the past 10 months, but unfortunately when you frequaent a message board, some will be right and some will be wrong.
And speaking of discussing issues about NEOM, what is this Shelron news have to do with NEOM? The increased revenue was from Keyword marketing, which is a feature of search marketing at this time, something NEOM has nothing to do with. Its also interesting that almost all of this latest PR is a word for word copy of their PR released back in August, since this is second quarter numbers they are referring to and not 3rd quarter. Whats even more interesting is they just filed 2 10qsbs correcting 2005 numbers, but there is no second quarter filing on the website, to follow up that PR dated August about the 380 percent increases. So again how does any of this pertain to NEOM when their active shopper program is a price comparison program designed for Internet Explorer, and based on search queeries?
And just what does what others think about my posts have to do with you? Maybe you should of shown the same concerns you have about me, about other posters when they were making the claims of the 800 pound gorilla, the 1.00 a share by years end pps etc. Isnt it funny how you only have concerns about a poster here and their motives, when their views differ from your own?
And yes a post that only talks about a poster and not about NEOM is a violation of TOS. Its not your concern or anyone elses here what my motives may be, as long as I stick to the tos rules in my posts.
As for having a phone call with a fellow shareholder yes I am opposed. This same tactic was tried on another message board and when i refused to reveal my email address, the poster suggested i set up an account with yahoo. A couple weeks after doing that and replying to that poster my name, address and phone number were being displayed repeatedly, with threats to come and visit me, because I didnt agree with the pumpers. So with caller ID out there of course I wouldnt share a phone call with a shareholder, who has already made it clear they have a different agenda and may misuse any information they may gain about me.
And your post has what to do with NEOM? As for you and others asking me to contact you thats an outright lie. I have recieved no requests from anyone on this board to contact them privately.
Secondly if you have the doubts about myself and my motives, after I have explained them repeatedly in this very forum, then contacting you privately would be fruitless wouldnt it?
Can you stick to discussing NEOM as I have done, insteading of violating TOS with your doubts about me as a poster here with equal rights to post my opinions about NEOM the stock as you and the others here. If you dont like my message, or have suspicions about my motives the correct procedure is to put me on ignore, not to attempt to attack me here in the forum.
To the individual that PMed me. I wont reveal your name here, but want to answer your question. Since I am not a subscriber to IHUB I cant PM you back, but will answer the question here for you and others, to avoid you being bashed as being associated with me some how.
No I dont think they will go bankrupt. They filed the SEDA shares for registration, so they will very soon be able to sell more shares to Cornell to raise capital as needed going forward. They also have many millions of shares of warrants that Cornell and others can convert to infuse capital into the company.
The problem with that however is the dilluted effect it will have on the pps. Every 100 million shares they sell or that are converted at .09 a share adds 9 million dollars to the companies market cap. Of course Cornell has shares that they can convert at .05 a share but that means they have to convert twice as many to infuse the same amount of capital into the company. Then on top of that they are known to sell their shares as soon as they recieve them, so there is a double effect. The increased outstanding shares adds to much to the market cap, turning away investors, and the dumping of the newly aquired shares, creates an oversupply on the market, thus causing downward pps pressure. So this sint something that will dissappear in the next 6 months. It will take a very long time to get out from under the Cornell umbrella, and unless something really major occurs the pps is going to remain well below the .50 range. And something really major isnt the launch of QODE in the UK. Thats a very small step in getting this technology accepted world wide, and even launching it in the UK does not guarantee that the companies there will accept the technology any time soon.
The best bet for right now as far as the pps goes, is to hope the subs and their technology takes off in revenue and profits, because QODE is a long ways away from becoming an effective marketing tool for the masses worldwide.
By the way, I should of mentioned that NEOM dont even have the funds to market themselves at this time, to the major corporations that they will depend on for their revenue off this product. We just read where Walmart spends about a half billion dollars a year in adverising, and thats why they are the giant they are.
I expect NEOM is very close to broke right now, but we will know for sure in about 2-3 more weeks just how much cash they have left. I about know that with last quarters expenses plus the 1 month of the 4th quarter about over, they have to be down to almost a zero cash balance, since the sale of the paint business hasnt occurred yet.
And by the way, on the issue of getting the word out. The major companies are not going to listen to an email from an unknown individual, and decide they are going to rush over and sign up for NEOMs Qode. The industry dont work that way. The company is going to have to directly contact these prospective clients and do a direct presentation to their marketing depts to sign up clients. Yes after your product has been out and tested and in use by some big brands, then marketing will be a little easier, because some clients who heard how successful the product is, will themselves seek out NEOM for demos etc. Until that time however, its gonna take a lot of effort on NEOMs sales staff to convince these companies to use their untested product.
First of all its not these other companies responsibility to find out about Qode and NEOM, its NEOMs responsibility to be out there aggressively marketing themselve and their product.
Secondly its ridicules to even think that the shareholders have to spread the word about the product. Thats the companies job and what these executives are being paid 100's of thousands of dollars a year and bonus' to do.
Thirdly, do you think companies like dupont etc, rely on the public shareholder to get the word out about their products? Thats what marketing is for and if you look at NEOMs sales expenses per quarter its ridicules to think they have an expense of 7 million last quarter for selling and general expense and cant get the word out.
Fourth, all these emails being sent here and there arent going to help Qode. The word has to get out to the right companies, not award companies etc. They will not be the ones buying into and using QODE. The companies target clients are companies that will license QODE to market their products, or buy keywords to use with Qode. The posters on my space, or youtube, or award ceromony companies arent going to increase that demand. Selling directly to these companies is what will increase the demand. And without QODE even turned on yet, its a little bit premature for an investor to be trying to create awareness for domething not even functioning yet. Every consumer in the world can state how great the technology is, but that isnt worth a hill of beans when the software is still not working, or no real companies are using it so the consumer can benefit.
Plain and simple. NEOMs Qode isnt gonna sell to the public until big companies sign on and start using it, so consumers see a benefit, and in my opinion we are a long ways away from that stage here in the US. Even the UK its still a ways off. First will come the release of the product, then companies over there if they see it works flawlessly might start adapting it into their marketing programs.
Do you think when Microsoft releases a new version of windows everyone flocks to buy it. No the smart people wait about a year so the ones who did rush out can find all the bugs and the program can get fixed. Thats the way it is with most software applications. And Qode wont be a lot different. Even if it was pre loaded on all cell phones, its worthless if MAJOR COMPANIES arent using it. Here in the US NEOM couldnt get anyone to DEMO it in trials apparently, and resorted to using their own paint business, which has a very limited marketing ability, becvause of its local facilities.
Steeler......I doubt seriously that they intended to put it up on the web site. If that were the case it would have been arranged through the service hosting the call, and the pr would of stated that the call would be available for x number of days on the companies web site, as is usually the case with any conference call that I have ever participated in. I was pretty astounded that the pr didnt state this, knowing that all share holders cant be available at the companies convenience to listen in, most companies realize this and make provisions.
I dont think the company wants an archive on their website for some reason, and therefore never intended it. I dont know where the rumour started that it was going up but I didnt see or read anything indicating it would.
Drmyke...shares are not counted twice. I thought someone posted the proof of that here a while ago. That rumour is not factual, and shares are only counted one time.
And where are you getting the loss of capitalization of 65 million, based on the 1.25 million shares traded from?
LOL. If I said the dilution caused it to be overpriced at .40, then logically that means the price has to come down to a price the number of shares can support. So what I said is exactly what I meant to say, and what you are saying is the effect, and what I said is the cause.
Bob..talking about revenue dont matter one way or the other. No matter what the potential of the Tech, most people know that its a long way away from becoming mainstream technology.
On top of that revenue dont matter all that much. Profits are what matters. And based on both revenue and profits, the stock is appropriately priced at this stage of the developement of this technology.
The dilution is what caused it to be so over priced at .40 a share. With 600 million plus shares outstanding that gave the company a market cap of over 200 million dollars. No company whose product is not mainstream yet, and who has low revenue and zero profits is worth 200 million dollars or more, although some may get bought for that amount, they dont trade at those levels.
And some of those babies that are being carried by the pregnant women are not boys?
I believe the studies found there are similiar effects between both genders in the early developing stages. A teenager whether they are male or female are still developing and growing. And with so many grade school and high school kids now carrying cell phones, maybe the damage has occurred during those developing years, before they even reach college?
I wouldnt laugh too hard about these studies. 25 years ago pregnant women were banned from working in or around microwave towers because there were effects on the fetus. A microwave tower or site is a signal site for communications, where microwave signals are sent and recieved called traffic. So these studies have been going on for many years long before the cell phone became mainstream, back when the military was using this technology.
I believe that the same precautions are urged for xray technology and pregnant women as well. Radiation does not leave the body once its there, so someone recieving tons of xrays is slowly building up the radiation level in their system, and at a point it becomes critical. Of course xrays put out such a small amount that it would take tons as I explained to become life threatening, but I believe thats why they dont want a pregnant women exposing the fetus to even small amounts if it can be prevented.
CJZAK.......this has been going on for quite a long time. When the SEC announced plans to stop abuses a couple years ago, someone listed a ton of companies on the BERLIN exchange. I read a lot of info on it at the time, and its very hard for a company to get removed off the exchange. A couple companies have been successful, but a lot of others were not.
I dont think it has that big an impact on the pps however. At the time I was watching sevaral companies that had got listed on the exchange, without company authorization, and non of them had enough volume to effect the pps. That might be different now days, but I doubt it. I checked NEOMs volume ancd there isnt enough there to effect the pps that much, even though a few days it was up around 250,000 shares, but on average its leess then $4,000.00 a day trading over there.
Bodreaux....yes if information is incorrect it should be addressed here.
Having said that I never stated NEOM was working on the platforms for ten years. They were however working on PC for 10 years. Now then, since they had PC already ready to go, as soon as the cell phones with cameras became available, all that was left was to integrate PC to work on the various hand sets. That never got accomplished, and to date still isnt accomplished, even though they have had several years to adopt PC to the different cell phone platforms.
So my point was simple. At this stage of the game, we shouldnt still be waiting on those applications to be developed, yet here we are still waiting. In the mean time companies like OP3 in 3 years not only developed a successful platform, but they have it out there in use as we saw with the sprite campaign. They accomplished this task in under 3 years and then began marketing their shotcodes. Yet NEOM still dont have PC functioning on the varios models of phones.
Jusy look at the subsidiaries as well. Most of them have participated already in successful campaigns for their programs. Many here like to give NEOM the credit for what Gavitec and the other subs are doing, just like the case with todays news about Gavitec. The truth is NEOMs own product is doing nothing as best we know, and NEOM had very little to do with the campaigns of the subs. So all these posts about NEOM being involved with coke and all the others is quite misleading. NEOM and PC are not involved with anyone that we know of at this time, except the local paper in fort myers, the prentice hall book, and the 2 companies they settled lawsuits with. Are there any other companies you know of today that are using QODE or PC?
Bodreaux........I jump on anything thats innaccurate, NOT ANYONE. You wont find any of my posts attacking an individual, unless provoked directly by that individual. Unlike many here who can not address the issues or concerns being raised by one poster or another and turn the board into personal attacks.
As to these platforms, once again they launched the product over 2 years ago, and today they still dont have the majority of the platforms working. Something they should have accomplished before the first announcement of a launch in 2004. So I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt ands give them these additional last 2 years since the launch and they still dont have them working. Thats the issue here in my posts isnt it?
So if you disagree with that opinion that these platforms should of been ready before the 2004 launch, then lets debate that issue, and not how I or others here decide to post...OKAY?
Yes it would be difficult to develope software for a platform that dont exist. But even you acknowledge brew debutted in 2001. So the 3 years until the initial launch of PC in 2004 was enough time to develope PC to work on that platform. And I only used BREW as an example because the company stated it was the hardest one to figure out. Now why arent the other supposedly easier platforms ready yet either?
Dont tell me since the initial launch of PC in 2004, the next two years they couldnt get any of these platforms working with their software. Especially since they had several years before the launch as well. These platforms didnt all just come available in 2001 like BREW, so what was going on? And why is Symbian the only one available to date, for a product that was launched 2 years ago?