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Great post!
By: stocksbonds3
08 Sep 2006, 01:43 PM EDT
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If you guys haven't figured out the scam yet, let me explain it to you one more time. Dial used Jarvis shells to move his oil company assets into and pumped up the price with false earnings numbers. Then, on cue, Jarvis, etal shorted gfci and ctbg as all of us were buying into the pump. Now, Dial is going to move the oil company assets into another shell and either start the whole process over of pumping and shorting or perhaps, since we now have our attorney watching his every move, he may try to run the new shell(s) legitimately.
Now, what's left for gfci/ctbg? Dial & Jarvis, etal are trying to make the 2 share prices go to zero so they don't have to cover any of the shorted shares and by the way, they shorted 2-3 times the number of shares that is in the float. They can't ever really cover because it would make gfci's & ctbg's price go through the roof, probably higher than where they shorted them.
So, Dial is scheming with a third shell and trying to multiply out the shares of new company by doing a reverse split whereby we get only 1 f'ing share in the new shell for every 3 shares we have in gfci. (I don't know what will happen with ctbg shares. If ctt isn't moved into ctbg, ctbg will only be worth the price of the shell company.) By doing this the present gfci shareholders will be diluted by up to 2/3's the value of the company and the non-gfci shareholders will get shares in the new shell company by merging their worthless gas/oil leases. Hopefully, our attorney can stop all this BS and get a vote on the issue so that we, the legitimate shareholders of gfci, have a voice.
I have a few things to say: (of course)
1)I figured it out a long time ago and tried to tell everyone here. A bunch listened to me and have thanked me personally. Keep the cigars coming boys! j/k you've done enough for me and my family already.
2)the above statement says you'll get one share for every two or three you currently have. I think it will be more like 1 share for every ten you have now.
3)dial was even smart enough to a)trap the two most proactive shareholders into silent mode and b)trap them into their shares which they cannot sell now
4)when the proxy does NOT get mailed, the meeting will NOT take place for shareholders and Treetop WILL accept the buyout of grifco, with ONLY the majority vote of Jim Dial, who will then slither off into never never land with all of the money he talked BBB, B2B, whoever else into giving him, in the hopes of getting rich quickly.
Does anyone know how much dialer has been paying himself? didn't think so, and to file a proxy he would have to admit it, which he won't.
Next news you'll get, is that the board OK'd the merger and the split will be effective immediately, you'll get one share of treetop, for each 10 you own of grifco, and the price will be briefly, VERY BRIEFLY set at $1.20. At which point the stock will open for trading and then crash to below a dollar in seconds. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth and a lot of "we should have listened to Dr Bill. he was so smart and saw this coming a mile and two years away. We're sorry Dr Bill, can you help us get our money back????"
all IMO of course
there's someone at wegi that's named JD, too?
is that who you're asking for help?
thanks
I agree with you on that one
plus, once the shares of CTT (CTBG) become effective, you divide that share price by a factor of 8 since the SOS (if anyone was remotely telling the truth) is going from 10 to 85 million if they ever declare those shares effective
ctbg less than .01
gfci less than .05 is imo
Tampa:
what does this mean????
By: tampatradr
07 Sep 2006, 09:41 AM EDT
Msg. 23541 of 23587
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We need SOMETHING! Help JD!
How about this?
By: tampatradr
07 Sep 2006, 03:58 PM EDT
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Sorry Cyo...that stock was doomed the day I bought in at .35....
Thanks
hey tampa
what about this?
Grifco International, Inc. Announces Shareholder Meeting and Plan of Merger Details
8/11/2006 2:07:41 PM
HOUSTON, TX, Aug 11, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Grifco International, Inc. ("Grifco" or the "Company") (PINKSHEETS: GFCI) announced today that the merger documents with a fully reporting company will be completed next week............
Our shareholder meeting is tentatively set for September 27, 2006 at 10:00 a.m.
No proxy, no filing, no date and time confirmation.Why is that you're so concerned with me and my writings here? Why are you not using your energy on dial instead? The messengers are always the ones to be blamed, aren't they?
Label me a basher, ok fine. I'm more like a truth teller.
Sorry you're losing all your money, but it's not my fault and your ire is misplaced.
this is truly sad
By: back2basics1
07 Sep 2006, 01:54 AM EDT
Msg. 23534 of 23580
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Best2Listen. Why would you say something like this?
"Cyo, I can't wait for the 6¢ - 8¢ range!"
Why is it that you can't wait for many good people to face financial ruin? With all the little battles I've had with people on message boards, I've never felt that I couldn't wait for truly bad fortune to befall them.
Are you one that gets pleasure from the misfortune of others?
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AS if a pinky can create financial ruin. oh yeah it can if you put all your money into it. Or just way too much.
The sad thing is, this is a nice guy and one who has been thoroughly duped. I tried to tell him, by e-mail, above .40, I believe, to get out. He could have 3 times the amount of money he has now, yet still hanging on for that hope all hopes something magical happens....
I hope it does for his sake. It's always sad to see someone criminally or simply nefariously enrich his own financial picture while/by sweet talking others into giving it over in the hopes of jumping two or three socio-economic rungs at once, the fast, easy way....
Like I said, truly sad.
moral of the story? if it sounds too good to be true, it almost always is, and it is ALWAYS prudent to be "OK" with missing out on a story like that
$2 MM per month per 50 jet motors, with a float of only 4 Million shares and shares outstanding of 20 Million.
oh boy I'm gonna be rich. Honey can we mortgage the house?
HEY JABBER!
really funny except all the charties were screaming buy buy buy on that day in the .30's when I happened to buy without giving any credence to TA
PLUS all the charties have been screaming BUY BUY BUY ALL THE WAY DOEWN TO 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah TA is USELESS
not worth a PENNY
it's all guessing, period and all the studies show it
Tampa
1)I said it was over, and it likely is. I spoke with AMTD, after seeing a RB post by cesvcesv (or womeone) that e-trade (or someone) had halted online trading, and AMTD confirmed that fact, that it wasn't open for opening transactions any more, you could only close your position. I called again this morning and what I was told by JAN last night, was wrong, that it's on a watchlist, but you might still be able to trade it online with them she wasn't sure. Which I certainly wouldn't test by trying to buy any of that crappy paper anyways. Just relaying what I was told.....
however,
your idea about grifco counsel is a pretty funny one. If they got time to come after me for posting on a message board, with everything wrong they got going wrong then there's mor trouble than anyone ever thought.
libel and/or slander
that's a good one
You're so sorried about me, why don't you worry about how badly this "investment" has gone. And how much the story has changed since the mexico/china/venezuela large orders and the jet motor making 2MM per month per each 50 made.....
I'm not the problem here tampa. I'm sorry, but IMO IMO IMO you're being lied to and sold shares, and IMO IMO IMO there's a LOT more than 56 Million shares outstanding, and the next thing you'll see is a folding of the tents just like litfiber did in Nov 2004. Sell the assets, sell the business and wrap up the shares into a 200:1 reverse merger.
All IMO of course, as are all my posts.
funny hwo you keep complaining about me, though and leave dialer out of it. He must be your brother, huh?
Jim Dial now admitting that there's 56 million shares?
OK now, this might be just a paperwork error, after all the transfer agent might have sloppy handwriting...
Or, maybe, just maybe,
hmmmmmm
let's see now,
haven't I been saying that dialers own words about the 39 MM SOS can come back to haunt him if you guys present him with proof of a majority (your alleged illegal naked short selling scheme) and can kick him out?
Geeze, now all of a sudden that someone saw through his BS (alleged) and saw a way to ouster him with his own words,
magically, the share count has gone up to "relieve" you people of your majority, if indeed you ever wisen up and start seeing what's really going on here. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
grifco no longer even has a website
this one's over
my broker even said that they voluntarily halted trading necause the stock is not a fungible asset
nice word eh?
it's not viable folks
it's over
hey frige how's those charts coming?
they say buy yet???????
jeeze you been wrong about always on this one
it's been a ski slope since three months ago
those bollies just keep squeezing don't they>>>>>>>>>>>>?
LOL
big pop coming the chicken cscratches say so//////
I did
Grifco and Laymec are no longer in any way, shape, or form connected
global is not anything to do with grifco
global libya is not anything to do with grifco
grifco now has NOTHING
the company is worthless and without credibility
CTT will even probably eventually legally sever ties with jim dial cause he sweet talked everyone into thinking he had something to offfer
imo, of course
So griffco lost global oil tools when they lost lyamec?
I wonder what's left of the company to attempt at getting some revenues going?
Grifco also lost libya when they lost lyamec?
geeze I wonder how the stock price is holding above .1
must be all the shares that strouungus is buying from dialer keeping a floor under it
ture but you DO need world class management to go from pk to anywhere else and all you got is world class liars and cheats to tell you the transfer agent cannot tell you how many shares outstanding
BTW how's lyamec doint these days
anyone want to REFUTE my original, after only two hours post announcement that lyamec is OUT OUT OUT???????????????
yes where's lyamec these days?
anyone
anyone????
did think so
first it was "well lyamec woulnd't have invested 3 million dollars if it wasn't safe money, right? so my money's safe"
NOW,
it's
"well, treetopeers wouldn't sell their shell to ccrooks would they/??? after all they been waiting forr a couple years for someone to come along, this means my money's safe.
I cannot wait unttil BBB has to pay the piper and own up to either being on the take, or clueless.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe she'll just disappear.
at leaast clever and oracle, two LONG TIME LONGS had the sense to get out of this massacre befoer their ports were decimated,,,,,,,
see ya'll tomorrow!
of course
does anyone really REALLY REALLY think Jim Dial is trying to get a legitimate business going? He bought/is buying another dirty shell, this time with super voting power so he's immune to a shareholder revolt. He's still vulnerable, yet you people sit on your asses, and will until it's too late. The psychology of longs is completely baffling to me. You must somewhere deep down want to lose all that money.
The way things are going, there is nothing going to come of this investment except more delays and excuses.
You think anyone has a legitimate reason why dialer won't let the TA talk to you people?
take a vote and vote dial out. At least let him admit that there's way more than 39MM sos whehn he's got to vote his own 144 million shares to block yours.
or you could just wait and bitch about it when the story plays out.....
funny
microsoft stock debut'd after MS DOS was released, and was already a raving success as a company. It was considered wildly overvalued by many many people at the time of it's IPO. $29/share
$29,000 on that day became almost 25 million dollars at its peak in
2000
spitlick,
once again, I didn't see any post anywhere about anything. I was writing my own e-mail
I saw that you claimed that there was a post, from someone, of another post in which there was reference to an e-mail from quanstar.
I do not trust you because you called IR liars. The one calling names is often the most guilty, ie you saying someone is a liar makes you 50X more likely to be in that boat, with or without the person you're accusing
furthermore, I cannot speak to any post you claim to have seen, or if it was accurate, or if it was misrepresented by you to further your own agenda,
even furthermore
you might not have even read the e-mail from that person in the first place and might just be tag teaming the board here for your own purpose.
I don't know you, don't trust you from your own bad attitude, rudeness and propensity to call others harshly critical names, and really dont care much what you opinion of this company is.
You yourself admitted to being wrong about this when you said it was a scam at less than $2. Then you claimed to have bought and sold succesfully. You bought a scam? Why on earth? Or maybe that was a lie, too?
Hmmm the picture gets foggier and clearer all at the same time!
Dr. Bill:
I posted the email I received from Integral Technologies. What you posted was almost correct; I believe the word intact was spelled in tact.
I have suggested since the information is contrary to what QuanStar told me someone might have misspoke.
Do you disagree with my assessment?
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I'm not in any position to agree/disagree with your assessment.
And I am sure that what I posted was "correct" because it was copy/pasted from an e-mail that I got from IR at Integral on Aug 24th. Here is the whole thing:
From: ITKGBB [mailto:itkgbb@itkg.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:41 AM
To: 'Dr. Bill'
Subject: RE: Integral Technologies
Goodmorning,
The Quanstar relationship has not changed and is in tact.
The next filing is the end of Sept. Use our website for filing links www.itkg.net or
www.freeedgar.com or www.sec.gov . I unfortunately can't tell you exact dates of news (rules)
but can tell you we have been working on several licences over this summer period.
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I have never seen you post anything here except about spitnickle, and I agree with you about her. She's got an agenda.
I have to assume that ITKG is not lying to me, and I again spoke with IR this very morning, whereby was reassured that he spoke with the CEO, and he too, confirmed that the relationship with quanstar is ongoing. He also stated that indeed, he was with them yesterday. Maybe spittonboy wants to now claim that they're severing their relationship.
My real point, is that when I get an e-mail from IR, it better not be lies, because I will follow with action if they can be proven to be disingenuous. I have 2 emails saying that they are still working together. AND furthermore, it's a non-issue,( except for management credibility IF they are NOT working with quanstar, and it's NOT just a mistake/misunderstanding that the IR person hasn't been in the loop- ie he's lying for some reason) because the quanstar relationship was not that great to begin with.
So
Quanstar?
yes, according to the best knowledge of the IR person, yes
if no, then he just isn't privvy to the information yet, and is likely NOT lying about it (penalties are severe for lying to investors about that kind of thing)
and also if no,
no big deal
righty then?
Who says I was talking about sptnews or whoever he/she/it is?
well, calling someone a liar is an actionable offense so I hope you're correct
they're not above the law and I sent another e-mail clarifying my question. we'll see
I trust an e-mail that I got rather than one from an anonymous basher on the internet
anyone can make that shit up
I was told by e-mail, by management, that quanstar relationship is intact.
are you calling that person a liar?
I asked the same thing re: nokia and was told that the mobile carriers move at a snails pace
it's also tough to get started in any market. An untested (as in on a massive scale) product is slow to get off the ground.
The patents weren't filed or accepted at that time either, so the value of the product wasn't really protected. Why would a big company pay a premium for a multi year license for a plastic if there was a chance that anyone could reverese engineer it and start selling it more cheaply.
The lack of any substantial sales deals, and therefor revenue, is one of the reasons why this isn't a $10-$15 stock instead of a $3-4 stock currently.
I have to say that this is the time, either shit-or-get-off-the-pot in the next 6 months on deals
if we don't see any, after all the IR hype about NDA's, in that time, then the stock will revisit lows below $1 IMO
I blieve mgt when they say that they're coming
spoutlik doesn't
I put an ask that was three levels above where the trades were
someone with levelIII can see them and grab them above the lower asks
it tells you where the strength is
I bought back in lower, buy low sell high , you know?
Looks like a shake
I put up 3000 for sale at 3.90 MUCH higher than the ask and it got snapped up
I bought back in lower, too
gotta love it
5 bars of fragrant Dial soap, for comfort, a 8k dial-up connection, to remind you of the good ole days, and a "improved" dial tone on your rotary phone.
there's still hope! BBB said CTBG ALONE will be worth a billion dollars! Thats BILLION in case you missed the $B$ in there
been burned again I think he should say his name is
lol
You people are missing the boat
you need to use your shares to voe out fial before he decimates whatever assets are left of grifco/coil tubing
you let this "merger" go through and he's got super voting power
now, he's got nothing, not even half the SOS according to statements made by him
no date for the shareholder meeting
he's stalling and you're letting him
There is no business behind any of this
mights maybes wishes and dreams
long shot of some potential, maybe
it's a stock selling scam
good news, is that you can still get out at .15, now
might be .05 tomorrow
qlt;
good insight but you're missing a key factor in your analysis
Changewave microcap investor subscribers first heard about Integral ITKG:BB when it was $1.00 per share. The first coverage is when he writes it up. Subsequent e-mails to his promotional databse get increasingly more revealing.
He'll intentionally use an easily "google-able" phrase so it's really easy to find. He's got another hundred thousand buyers who think they're clever once they find his "secret" out on their own.....
Once the Changewave microcap investors are in, and have seen some nice gains, then they don't care how much he pumps it. If it runs far enough, then he'll even start talking about it on TV. You know when Toby starts talking about one of his stocks on Fox bulls and bears it's probably only got another slow 100-300% in it.
Subscribers who bought at first blush are up 300%
that's where the incentive to subscribe comes in!
sorry i worded that wrong
half is warrants for another $2 million ---the sale price of the stock was about $2 per share which was the going market rate....
sputnick
sure you did. suuuuure you did.
I bought at a penny! Did I tell you that?
No, didn't think so
Here come the "biggie"
are you all READY FOR THE BIGGIE?????????????????
Here is the biggest Jim Dial apologist of all, the one that gave me so much CRAP, called me names etc etc etc
are you ready?
The BIGGGGG issue I have with the voting shares and Super Voting shares is that there are not 8 people WE VOTE IN using those shares, it is only one person. The same person who will not let us see the transfer records.
I have issues with that.
visxlaserman wrote that post
it's what I've been saying all ALONG PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I have a feeling that there's still some relationship, if somewhat different than they had before.
Reading back, I'm not all that thrilled with the terms of the agreement in the first place, so if it's ending that would be a non-negative IMO.
You seem to want to highlight the riskiness of this....
It might NOT be the place for your money, even if you did miss out on a double in the past two-three weeks.
Sputlik,
now here you go again, sounding combative just after I apologized for making you feel poorly about your investment decision re:Integral. Then you come up with "read and weep" statement. Was that designed to be antagonistic? Maybe I just cannot understand the Canadian humor, EH?
I thought I made it clear that I was NOT telling you you were a bad investor, yet you're clearly not being nice...
SO what's up with that sputlik?
PIPE completed end of last month. I spoke with a friend who spoke with Scott at IR. They sold 3 million shares, for $2.2M. 1/2 warranted at $2.50. They are restricted for a year, and he wa fairly confident that they will not hedge them. He said that they were sold to a few investors, and that they were at market value at the time of the negotiations. Cash will last at least one year, and he was fairly confident that they won't need any more financing d/t revenue ramp before the need arises.
Playing with numbers isn't limited to Grifco and their web site apparently. Computershare Trust Company (303-262-0600) states that the outstanding share count for GOMD is 20,079,603. Those filings by Reichman stating the outstanding share count as 252,791 will be brought to the attention of the SEC.
Well, what was your opinion on how dialer was going to delay, stall, otherwise thwart this particaular merger like he has all the rest. now, while he's shoveling shares out the back door, he can be on the phone with BBB saying it's like this, we have got to get the paperework, actually one piece of paper from thist storroom in las vegas, then we'll be able to complete the audit, actually it's all done except the SEC going forward with the reversee merger of treetopper, as soon as the sec does that then we'll be golden, we've got our crack team of accountants on it right now....
the propensity for people to KEEP ON KIDDING themselves in the face of mounting financial ruin is amazing, really truly amazing
notice how there's no talk of the amazing jet motor?
hmmmmmm
Pursuant to the Master Plan, the new merger subsidiary will engage in a share exchange with Universal Energy Resources, Inc. ("UERI"), a Nevada corporation, formed effective August 9, 2006. UERI has authorized share capital 350,000,000 shares of common Stock par value $.001 and 50,000,000 shares of preferred stock par value $.001. As of the of the merger, UERI issued and outstanding 10,000,000
shares of common stock par value $.001 and 1,000,000 shares of Super Voting preferred stock par value $.001 with 20:1 voting rights.
All of the common shares of stock and Super Voting preferred stock are beneficially held by Jim Dial, individually and as agent and attorney-in-fact
for Majority Shareholders of Grifco International, Inc., a Nevada corporation. The common and Super Voting shares were issued to the Majority Shareholders in consideration of the August 9, 2006 securities pledge of 56,500,000 shares of
common stock par value $.001 of Grifco International, Inc.
Jim Dial just gave himself grifco. He gave himself all the assets, and all the voting power. You people waited too long (I THINK) and now he's gone and taken it all away from you and BBB was either in on it, or not smart enough to realize what was going on. Meanwhile the "asshole" Dr Bill knew all along but you people had to play popularity contest..... way to go!
LOL
Most people don't like being shown they might have gone wrong. That's one reason why most people are not good investors.
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Sputnick.
Please dont mis-take what the point of my posts is. I am NOT trying to rub it into your face about being wrong on this stock. I am NOT trying to tell you you're a bad investor. The fact that you've been wrong since day one on this board, when you called it a scam at $2.00 per share, just means that you've still got a lot to learn about making money....
I apologize if you mistook the tone of my posts. I'm certainly not trying to rub it in, just trying to help you with your dd.
FWIW I don't think that the relentless upward pressure is done, usually these moves that happen are a precursor to a REALLY HUGE move once these startup companies actually begin making and selling products.
A similar industry is the pharmaceutical industry. They often make moves from $.25 to $10, then when revs start showing up they really get going on upwards of $100 or more.....
I might suggest you do some research on how that research, patent, license, sales cycle works to gert a better understanding of what's going on with this little startup.
Once again, I apologize I wasn't trying to show you where you went wrong, or that you are a bad investor....
Sorry if you took it that way
There are 109 patents applied for. There are 15 granted and or applied for and allowed. 90 some more in the application process.
Hope this helps.
If something definitive happened last Thursday, then such an event would be required to issue in an 8-K in four business days from that day, which is today; or if penned last Friday, then such an event would be required to issue in an 8-K this Thursday. It is no matter the day, but it will be this very week. We all should get some sort of announcement soon, delineating an overview of what Dial must have penned this week in SFCA, right (that's San Francisco, CA)?
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Everyone, please re-read this post. Tell me how one might EVER conclude that this poster isn't a) lying or b)being lied to.
Each time they say something is going to happen IT NEVER EVER DOES
We were supposed to have a proxy statement and a venue announced for the "special shareholder meeting", and 'poof' once again, nothing happened.
I simply don't see how ANYONE can be thinking there's anything behind all this.
it's just a confidence scheme. there's no other way around it.
Spotknock
don't disagree with anything in that post
prudence invests where prdence is comfortable
there's a place for safe money, and there's a place for risky money
until we can get revenue, growth, market potential etc it's a gamble-type investment. No one at all is saying that's it'a blue chip dividend stock
if we see another deal it'll be a $5 stock, if we see an actual product it's $5-10 and if we see any "real" revenue (above 10MM) it's going to 30. All imo of course.
However, they are out showing people, many people this product that seems finally ready for market,
and I am no genius, BUT, Tobin Smith isn't making this stock go from .25 in '05, to $3.50 this year. He can pump with the nbest of them, don't get me wrong.
But someone likes the things that are happening, and big money is moving this stock. Big money tells people, big money buys stock early every time, and no amount of market maker ask pulling fluff can move a stock this much.
So far, enough indicators, are showing that there's news "something brewing" with this little company.
AND, IR cannot CANNOT have lied to me about a material event, which WILL show up in the Q, as in qanstar relationship legally has to be intact as of yesterday.
I'm wondering do you post this to say, "be careful" or do you post this to say, "stay away" just curious.....
shares vote the board
with several people having on record dial as saying that the board could be controlled by 51% of 39M share, they've easily got that with 25+ MM shares
So they present dial with proof that they've got that voting majority according to "his statements", and that they've proxy'd them all to BBB, and BBB has voted himself as COB
then he's either going to admit that he loaned his shares out,
that he's been lying about the SOS,
or that there really is a short position and any and all M&A activity has to stop while the share counts are worked out
tell you one thing, with a proxy war going on, the SEC will quickly make any and all FTD's be corrected promptly
tell you what I think will happen, is that the SOS will come out as 200+ million, and dialer got 51% of those
but the really bad thing is, is that IMO is what the longs area afraid of, and won't take action because if the truth comes out then they might not get that one last PD to get out of their mistaken folly with this POS