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Yes, time will tell but not with these guys. Time has proven that they do nothing but talk about ideas and goals and do nothing.
Yep. At least Medican left me with more shares. Criminals. If not criminals, inexperienced liars.
Dude, this was NEVER an MJ play. It was a vape play.
The problem with Bryen is this: Grow lights? Late to the game. Hemp Seeds? Retailing somebody else's product is pretty lame. Cannitizer? Sorry, but this always seemed to me to be a lame idea meant to push the company as an MJ play. It sucked.
This was always a retail/vape stock. Like many of the "MJ" stocks out there, it's all smoke and mirrors.
Bryen is a joke. To me the biggest pinky criminal I've ever dealt with. With all the shares I owned, it is pretty much worthless unless it sells for $10/share.
Hey Bryen...good luck in the future. We all know you'll hand out more shares, vote up the A/S and do it all over again down the line. It's what happens to pinkie CEOs who realize that R/S is the best way to keep the shares printing.
OKay so? He's still selling shares and with all the dilution going on, I read it correctly when looking at the big picture - he's selling shares to pay himself or an employee. How can you not get that? If a manager has to sell his shares for "salary" what message does that send to us shareholders who are losing bigtime? Suck it up is what I say.
Re: The Form 144 filing from yesterday. Am I reading it right...he sold 2 million shares for $250 going to "unpaid/accrued salary"? Sigh...
And people wonder why so many are down on this stock. $250? So every time these guys need a few bucks, just sell some shares to a toxic lender for $250!
It looks bad. I can see a guy like Mark Cuban shaming these people. For all the news and info saying they are telling the world they don't even have $250 to pay a salary. So lame.
Yep. Once it goes back to sub pennies (Look at Medican recently for an "MJ" stock that R/S and just fell and fell and fell) they will have more toxic conversions (who knows just how many of those conversions exist since the company isn't talking about anything right now) and billions more will be available and they will R/S again and again.
Once a stinky pinky like this R/S, they do it over and over unless they get a reverse merger going with a new entity and one hopes they will have something legit. Happens, but so rare.
Anyway, agreed. This thing is going back to sub pennies once the retail accounts get their new shares.
So sad.
And people wonder why so many are interested in Trump and Sanders. Both claim they will go after this kind of crap. Not sold on either but it is interesting to watch how people are getting fed up with ineffective government, clueless pols selling out to the highest bidder and companies that go into business to sell shares and only shares.
Hey I made out with Bill Chabaan's messed up company early last year along with a couple of products based OTC companies. Everything since last summer has just stalled or dropped to nothing.
No way to pull out once these do the nosedive. Oh well. I chalk it up to a tax write off.
I take it back, it's still up but this December tweet cracks me up:
Taking responsibility for the future is what winners do- #AV1 #Av1Group #Business #Investment
Clowns. So we have to take financial responsibility for your bad business planning. I wonder if they even bought back all those shares they PR'd about.
I see Bryen shut down the AVOP tweet feed. Guess he can't handle the comments.
I hope people saved some of the posts there. Another thing I plan to add to my SEC complaint.
On the AVOP website is a link to "Lawster". Maybe we hire them, LOL.
BUT...Retail is most of us here for example. They don't care what we want. These guys only look as far as the need for another loan. I get it...I worked with companies where owners spent more time keeping the lights on than focusing on building the business. Once these guys go public on the OTC, that is all they do...raise money. Most are 2-3 person operations. When the toxic lending gets signed, it's over. It really is. The money these guys get never goes back into the company and if it does, it pays past ledger debts (deferred salary, etc).
I watch Shark Tank. I see many budding business owners come on there and haven't paid themselves ONE DIME. I guess the difference here is who is willing to forgo creature comforts for the good of their dream. These pinky CEOs (many are guys who sit on boards of other Pinkies LOL) close one shell and start others. Some other guys are just victims of believing in a dream. Hard to say anymore because the "dream" seems more focused on quick cash than building anything lasting.
LOL. So true.
Yep, I own a business and bottom feeders send info on these businesses that sell "shells". Small business is an easy target.
Yep. This business "sector" has grown significantly over the last year or two. I was talking to a friend who has a company big enough to go public. He isn't big enough to go big board so he was approached to do a reverse merger/penny stock offering. The people he'd have to get in bed with would basically have ways of wresting control from him at some point down the line. He's an honest guy so he started asking questions. I can say with confidence he won't do this. He joked he can get a Kabbage loan with a slightly higher interest rate and easily pay it back than sell his soul for the markets.
Anybody dumb enough to buy these shell sellers b.s. that you can reverse merge and take your company to new heights is lying. It's a scammer game now and the rules allow it, definitely.
Thanks for the talk.
The problem here is that pinkys have the ability to use toxic lenders more than ever before. It's easy money for them. The future of judging a Pinky CEO will be if they need to tap that well for toxic money. Every stock I know of that has toxic money and convertible shares is failing with zero growth.
Not more than a couple years ago, a stock like this could find people willing to buy because the company would do different things to turn stock into cash. Now, these greedy idiots don't give a crap about long term holders of the shares (retail) and are killing the confidence of these OTC/Pinky markets.
I would buy 10-20 of these a year and flip them at some point (not right away, but on future news). Not anymore. The large blocks of shares given out by these companies is killing it for anybody but the few who do this for a living.
Doubt it. The trend appears to be no news.
This and Pocket Games have made me realize that unless you are blessed to get free shares or loan money for large blocks of shares, the game is rigged worse than ever for retail investors.
The typical pinkie CEO must reach out to companies that give money to them as a lifeline for large blocks of shares. Those shares dilute the structure and then many of these either crash and burn or R/S over and over.
I could buy 10 different pinkys in a year and know I'd make a profit even if 9 tanked. Now it's impossible unless I live at my computer and wait for the right moment to dump. A lot of us are not day traders and never will be.
What kills me most is that the company couldn't even have the decency to PR this at least. Tell us it's happening, what they plan to do going forward and regain our trust. Nope. These crooks just R/S'd. Anybody who comes here lying about this stock's potential better stop. It just comes off as another flipper wanting more bagholders to sell to.
So anyway, I tried emailing these clowns. No response of course. I did file a complaint with the SEC. Doubt it comes of anything but if this move gets them scrutiny and moved to the gray sheets, awesome. By the time I get my new lower amount of shares, this thing will be back in the sup pennies and I won't make crap anyway.
So lesson here is I will just invest my money in new business ventures (privately owned ones). I know I'll see better returns than this nonsense.
Sure they are pumper. Try implode.
Part one is correct. Problem is, like Medican, they will find news won't matter because the bagholders are stuck with shares they can't sell until the new ones get into their accounts and new buyers may be flippers who ride this down.
Idiot CEO. I do plan to sue over this. They stated NO R/S. Liars.
Wow. Bryen Berlinger - cut from the same cloth as all the other Pinkie CEOs. It's all about servicing the toxic lenders and screwing the retail buyer.
Oh well.
IT WON'T HOLD AT ALL! None of these R/S schemes work.
If he had a real product with audited books, I'd be more forgiving. This is another over diluted POS pinkie that feels an R/S will somehow help. I bet they overdilute this back to billions then R/S again in the next year or two.
What a joke. They promised (should I find the PR) they would NOT R/S. Clown show in full effect.
And I can't even sell if I wanted thanks to this nonsense. Hey Bryen...good luck with the R/S. It won't help you. If I had real time, I'd list all the stocks that R/S. If you choose to dilute some more, you will NEVER be anything.
Typical lying POS pink stock CEO. I dare anybody to defend this.
"Well, supposedly DSCR is going to supply hemp seeds to IB8. DSCR was growing its own hemp at one point, supposedly..Nobody really knows what they're doing, and there's not much proof they've ever done anything."
Yep. My feelings exactly. So they supply hemp to a company that may have their own shelf space. Problem is, where is all the money for the last couple of grows they had?
Argh.
Uhhh, if people think they will R/S this isn't going anywhere. I've seen many R/S. Even after an R/S this will just flop like a turd. R/S isn't the way to go but whatever...these guys have zero clue in anything they are doing.
This had potential when they supposedly had a deal to work with a grower of MJ. Zero potential in selling a product with no marketing expertise and fighting Nutiva, Manitoba, Navitas, in store brands and 10 other brands for hemp seed shelf space.
Nah, you would be doing great on the OTC/Pinkie exchanges. All you have to do is dilute the shareholder, make a bunch of pie in the sky promises and fool the bagholders into staying put while hoping P&D crews latch on, drive up your price and make your nut for the coming months.
This is what Pinkie/OTC stocks do. Some are legit, no question. Many try to be until they get sucked into the vortex of toxic lending and handing out shares to those vultures.
Then there are the guys who run these like franchises. We see their names in the background, on the boards...guys who exist to make sure these companies dilute and work with the toxic lenders so they get paid.
It's scummy but a good business if you choose to understand it's about shares and nothing else.
And selling their own brand of hemp seeds will ensure more losses. Sorry, not sold this will ever get better.
Again, the shelf space for hemp seeds is crowded. They need to sell these seeds to the producers of brands that get good shelf space for any of this to work.
Mixing with spices, shells, no shells matters not one bit. These guys have zero funds and zero expertise to sell a retail product. Period. Guess I stay a bagholder forever.
If you mean a PR that shows up on mainstream PR channels, sure. If you mean another announcement via someplaces nobody but us reads, no thanks.
How will it help us bagholders? It's hemp seeds? How are they going to market these hemps seeds? Do they have agreements or contracts to supply them to hemp seed producers or are they going to try their own product line?
This is the problem...if they are selling the seeds to the consumer, I have zero faith. If they are selling these seeds to the brands that sell the seeds, okay BUT I have zero faith these guys will make any money at it. Seems to me to be more lip service and the markets and hypesters that make these stocks run are not coming here simply because DSCR can't even pay for a proper PR announcement.
Wow. Hemp seeds. As a guy who makes my living in the natural products business, it's a crowded field for shelf space.
I appreciate they are doing something but hemp seeds? Yowza. More ineptitude.
Dude, you can post happy thoughts for one day all you like. Problem is IHUB posts don't make anybody want to buy. DD does and what exactly is good about our current situation?
Uhhh this isn't an MJ stock. It's a vape stock.
Let's stop trying to paint a company who's only "MJ" related product is hemp oil they don't make themselves! They buy it wholesale from another company. Not exactly MJ if you ask me.
Bryen...where are you?
If this is pumping, the last try brought it to 6 and then it fell quickly back to 1.
Sorry, even pumps don't work because people don't buy what they are doing.
Exposure? This can't run because everybody sees it as toxic.
There are pinkys than rise from the dead and then there are ones like this. Anybody doing DD on this will run screaming. Nothing but Vapehigh is legit. Even the Vapehigh site is a curious thing. What kind of money does it make? Why not trumpet that and try to turn it around with sales info? Not unheard of in pinky land since this is an unaudited entity.
No news on sales, website visits, growth makes me think that site sells NOTHING or the company isn't being honest with their ownership position of Vaporhigh.
C'mon Bryen...I know you read these boards. Show me something.
Huh? Keep dreaming dude. I was positive for up to last december. This is going nowhere. I'd shut up if Bryen would follow up on stuff.
Where is he? How will this run if the CEO is MIA?
Ahhh, exposure how? Bryen has hired promoters each time he's put out news. NOTHING.
Nobody is buying it because the company can't keep it's promises. No buy back update, no profit or sales updates from the Vape site, no nothing.
Guess what? I run websites for a living. I could easily create a product site, list some products, stock nothing and pretend I am a vibrant store with customers. Ain't hard.
Hate to come down on this but I've been a bagholder for 2 years now. NOTHING these fools have promised has come true.
Shoot, I even tried to sell a few weeks back at the current price hoping the company would buy those shares on the market...I am still a reluctant owner.
This one and so many others...the pinky markets are a victim of their own success. The MJ craze breathed new life into the market until the scammers took over. Own a mining entity, let's announce we are looking into MJ! Own a fitness nutrition company? Let's say we are opening a grow facility until people find out that it was just bull.
It's all a joke on us. Oh well. Off to do more profitable things.
Oh please. Must I count how many days it's been here? I guarantee it's the majority of the last year.
This thing is dead, we are all bagholders until somebody buys the shell or the company reverse merges with a new player.
I've been there done that many times with stocks like this. I have zero faith in our "CEO" who has had opportunities to show he's different. Nope, same old bull. Talk up stupid news as if it's important (selling hippie butter, wow! That must make us an MJ stock by buying somebody else's product) and hire promoters, promise to buy back shares yet all I've seen is dilution.
Bryen sold out to the toxic lender types. If he was serious, it wouldn't take much to do a proper share reduction and then audit. Same ol' pinky shell game.
So basically ask yourself this...pink stocks are stuck more than I've ever seen them. It's not good. The market has killed itself with too many losers like this one.
I find it interesting that the page asks the store owner to login to resolve issues. I believe they are behind in store hosting payments.