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KaiserSoze,
Well it sounds like we are both speculators here then. I think that the value is somewhere in between our imaginations. I also speculate that if SP's business model was not somewhere close to accurate, then "HOTEL TV", "LNET", "ROOMLINX", "MARRIOTT", "TRUCKENMILLER" or anyone else for that matter would not be paying any attention to him. I am not saying that my idea is what is going to happen, I am just saying that there are real possibilities to make TIVUS grow even if we get out of the installation business. Granted my imagination might have exploded a bit, but the reality is I believe $70 million to be a real low ball figure, and not a best case scenario.
GLTA,
JPR
Brian39,
To LNET, I think it is worth more than $70 Million. They boast 1 Million plus rooms. under SP's model at 3.50 per room per day, that is 3.5 Million a day. In two months they have their money back. That is 1.3 billion dollars a year in ad revenue. Yeah 70 million is a bargain. SP would be better off to take 50 million and 20% of ad revenue for 5 years. Then dump the proceeds into developing the NOC and skim the other $3.00 per day per room. There is some cash to made here, and I think done right it could work itself out quite nice for everyone involved.
GLTA
JPR
So basically, the way I see it, TIVUS would be the one Z06 Corvette sitting on the "HOTEL TV" dealership floor with the $146,000 price tag on it. The one everyone would like to have but they settle for the base model with a few add-ons. Hotels don't want to spend money on TV's, they see it as a necessary evil to stay competitive.
How would that be more beneficial to Tivus than say an outright purchase of the Tivus Name Brand and technology?
I get that, it puts tivus technology in a whole lot more rooms, however, I suspect that it would also greatly reduce the $3.50 /per room/per day revenue model. My guess would be that the realized revenue would be somewhere around $.35 /per room/ per day. Unless we saw an immediate 10 time increase in number of rooms, we would only be breaking even. I also get that as of now we see ZERO, but it seems the "HOTEL TV" is getting a superior product at a 90% discount. A product that with the right financing could put "HOTEL TV" out on their backside. Kinda like selling our soul to the Devil.
Jwez,
realizing that you can't say ANYTHING, speaking hypothetically, if "HOTEL TV" and Tivus did some how merge into some type of union, how would that benefit the TIVU side? it seems to me that the only side that would seemingly gain from that is the "HOTEL TV" side? Its a Hypothetical question to JWEZ, but I welcome anyone's input and or thoughts?
KaiserSoze,
No cheer leading going on from this side. Just really tired of people saying all negatives since they are directed to the wrong place. Nobody here can do anything about your problems. if you wanna do something constructive, file your complaint here:
http://www.sec.gov/about/forms/formtcr.pdf
Irish,
I understand completely, that is disheartening, anytime you hear it. I get pissed when I spend 1200 bucks at Bestbuy on a laptop, only to have it go on sale 2 months later for 500 bucks. But I don't stand out in front of the store with a picket sign and ward off customers just because someone else got a better deal than me. I evaluated the need, and bought what i thought was a good value at the time. I bought a house in 2006 that cost me about $120,000 more than what I can currently buy the same house for today, That doesn't make me hate my neighbor because they got a better deal than i did, It doesn't afford me any special privileges in the HOA because i have been there longer or paid more for my house than most. It just means that i have have a different exit strategy than most. I certainly won't go stand out in front of my neighborhood and warn others from buying there. It is counter productive to increasing the property value. It is what it is. I can't predict the future, but i can take advantage of the lower buying price, that is why I have bought 3 additional homes in the neighborhood and rented them out with a positive cash flow. I might be upside down in my current home, but on the other hand, it helped me realize the good value I got on the other three homes. The point wasn't that I have umteen million shares of TIVU, the point was that I am accumulating, despite the short-lived runs, and amongst all the bickering and complaining. I am pretty sure that SP doesn't read the postings here, so not really sure what all the complaining on the board really accomplishes? I certainly don't want to sound as if i don't think your concerns aren't valid, They very much are. But complaining here has about the same effect as if you just stood out in traffic and yelled at the passing cars. I agree that there are some real issues that need to be addressed between SP and the Stockholders. Especially those of you that have been here for two years or more. You guys might be right, SP may not have what it takes to be a Super CEO, even though the guy is trying like hell. But I assure you that currently he does have enough votes in the grand scheme of things to keep anyone from voting him out of that position. ST is a good asset to have on our side, hopefully he will have some valuable influence on SP and provide the right coaching where it needs to be.
GLTA,
JPR
GD,
"There's a reason the longs here are silent.. and i think it's because they are sick and tired of defending their investment and they know what they hold. They just let people like you ramble on about how the sky is falling and wait patiently until one day we get that amazing piece of news that sets everything in motion and the share price starts climbing back in a hurry."
I can't speak for all longs here, but I can tell you that you are close to spot on with at least 4 of the largest shareholders on this board. They don't sit idly by though, I can assure you they are buying on the dips. While all the gripping has been going on lately, I have amassed more than 70 million shares, and averaged in @ .00035 . I can tell you all right now my mere $25,000 invested is not the driving factor of this STOCK going anywhere. SP has his entire livelihood gambled on this thing. If I loose, then I loose some chump change that would have better spent somewhere else. I still have my job, and the ability to generate more money and move on to the next new and best thing. IF SP looses then he looses everything. Including his JOB. Granted SP has not been the most transparent guy to peoples liking's, but I can assure you that he is doing everything he can to market TIVUS to take it to the next level. a very wise man once share with me, "Having watched businesses come and go, I have learned that keeping business coming in is still the long pole in the tent. Too often, a great idea that would benefit many gets put aside because the marketing that shows the need is not effective. Marketing comes in many flavors, but there needs to be a plan to get people in to see your product or service." SP is marketing our product like crazy, I can guarantee that. I can bet, that SP doesn't know or care what the share price is. His only interest lies in doing whatever it takes to increase revenues. I agree with most that it sure would be nice to see some results, but we are not buying Apple here, you can't base this company on how many ipods are being sold yet. This is a penny stock that is fighting hard to eat at the "big boy" table. The competition knows this and is doing all that they can to kill the dream. But the reality is that the competition has acknowledged that the product is better than what they offer. TIVUS's time will come, and nothing about anything that is said on this board is going to have any impact on that. The only thing that the gripping on this board does, is keep the price a few ticks lower than it could be. Which is fine by me, I am not done buying yet. I would almost be willing to bet that the gripping has done more harm to TIVUS than the necessary Dilution.
I not saying, I'm just saying. No need for anyone to attack, you will be wasting a post because i won't respond.
GLTA,
JPR
Whatever Deadboy, have a nice day!!!
Whatever Deadboy, you won't get any more shares below .0003, I suggest that you just go all in at .0004 to avoid missing the bus. hold out for the 1s and 2s and you are gonna be left in a wind storm.
And a 30 day BAN for horrible language, but just my opinion, there is not going to be any substantiated PPS growth that holds until Financials show that this baby is generating revenue. Then there will be nothing that can stop it.
Shiva fires up dilution machine @.0007
$40MM+ shares of TIVU does not equal 100 shares of overvalued IBM or 1200 Shares of HOST.
Based on very rough math, with approx 2000 rooms installed, WHEN we see financials, My thought is we should be seeing roughly $200K per month in revenue. As for TIVUS purposely keeping the price low, I think I have been saying that since January. A lot of folks have called me stupid for asserting that idea, but JWEZ and I talked about it quite a bit back then and it got chalked up as a dumb suspicion. I guess time will tell, but all this talk about a merger just gets my blood boiling. I didn't invest here to have my shares converted to an entry level number of HOST or IBM shares. I will stick out the pain in the trips if it means we can play with the big boys one day. Buy outs suck for the guy being bought out. They are only good for the party gaining an undervalued asset.
Blahdude,
Forgive my ignorance, and understanding that any and everything said and posted here is nothing more than speculation at this point. But seemingly, Host in general and Philly Marriott in particular already got a "beautiful system" that is capable of generating income free of charge given to them. So if there is no contract at this point, why would TIVUS share any revenue with them? It seems that TIVUS would hold something back to entice them to enter into the contract? for example, I would not give you the keys to my business, and allow you to earn all or most of the revenue it generates, then just say hey i hope you enjoy it, pay me whenever you want. That is not smart business in my opinion. I really hope it didn't go down that way.
Scienceguy, nice work, you just reworded my post from Jan 6th. admittedly I like the way you worded it better, but at least it helps me know that I am not as crazy as i thought I was. glta jpr
Just a thought Deadboy, wouldn't it serve your purpose more to write Mr Prakash a personal email, letting him know what you think of him? I hardly think that he has the time to read all the garbage and ramblings of this board. But I certainly believe he would be interested in what somebody who has lost faith in him thinks of his so called poor management skills and deviant conman tactics. I seriously doubt that you are going to be able to convince anyone other than me to sell their holdings with your slanderous and defamatory remarks and comments. I would be glad to provide you with his email address in case you loose your way to the TIVUS website.
oh yeah and to cash in on the free advice that flows so unexpected on here.
Not me I sold everything, I am just here to see you suffer or make a million.
interesting points, but i have to say, I am gonna hang out un invested just to see how you all make out. makes perfect sense to me. and to mark, relax, most website interchange "communication" and "cheating" as the top two reasons for divorce, money made the list in various places, but never top spot on the ones that I viewed rather quickly. admittedly it did rank pretty high on most. I am not hiding the investment, the statement comes to the house, she just doesnt get hit in the face with it everytime she opens up the bank website, to check her checking account balance. if she bothered to open the mail that piles up on her counters, she would see where every penny has gone, and what it is worth. I don't ask her about the thousand bucks worth of SBUX transactions in the bank statement each month, and she don't ask about the ING investment transfers that show up a few times a week.
I know right? I am getting all kinds of advice here today, first I was convinced to sell everything, and now I am getting free marriage counseling. If I stick around, i just might get help with my alcohol and drug addictions too. I have found such a wonderful place. Where have you all been all of my life?
too late... i am out, now i will just hang around with no real investment just to see other suffer. Wanna be just like my savior
Bri, I knew your were just being funny, as was I. great post, I too don't let the wife know what we have invested. I even switched to a different broker so she couldn't see anymore of what is really happening. All she sees is about 1.5 million that are averaged at about .0007 so she thinks we are pretty close to even money right now.
so you sold, but yet you still feel the need to save us all from Mr. Prakash and his deceptive ways? You are such a warm hearted fellow, I would be such a fool for not heeding your advice. that is it, I am cashing out. I feel so much better that you saved me
deadboy, you got any evidence of a R/S? or are you just spewing your BS on us for no real reason? It sure would be nice if people would qualify their statements around here. I don't think that it is any real secret that a lot of people are not happy with Mr. Prakash, but short of facts, you making claims of an R/S is nothing short of rubbish. post facts please.
Brian I think you have the best chance of your projection being right on the money. I think my wife would be pleased to know that our investment is worth somewhere between 1200 and 120,000 bucks. although the narrow range might make her worry just a bit. Think we can widen that just a tad?
I think .03 is in the very near future, just my opinion.
So does it look like these 6's are gonna hold on the open, or is this gonna be pretty much the same as last week?
LOL, it will be great to have you back, I hope you have been following the board this week, it has been quite comical if you ask me, lots of belly aching and what not. hopefully, we get some great news and spirits will pickup once again. The nice thing is when the price is going up OLD PONTIAC doesn't show up. Here's hoping, have a great weekend, hope to have you back at home early next week.
JPR
JWEZ!!! whats up man? when you coming back home to TIVUS Board, I heard you got banned, not sure why? any word on when the ban will be lifted? Lot of people have been asking about you. I guess you are missed. anything we can do to help get ban lifted? GLTY JPR1969
Well when we get back to .10, it should be just a tad more than a 1000% gain this time. not to make light of the big money that some have lost here. like i keep reassuring my wife, it isn't lost unless I sell down here. will this ever see .10 again, who knows? there are plenty here that believe it can. I have been wrong before, and i would love to be THAT wrong again. I got in at .004 and thought i had a bargain til i watch the bottom drop out of it. Here is to drinkin a whole lot of PBR and hoping that makes a big turn for the better.
I understand that, I know it has been a tough week for ya, tryin' to get them 3's to fall and all. You had it close a few times, musta been sweatin' like the hogs when the slopman comes a pullin' up.
Look at me talkin' all sexy and stuff, you'd almost think I thought you was a Lady or sumthin'
Mark, I don't know what the hell Kumbaya is, but your welcome to come on over to the trailer house, and drink some PBR's a wait on that great news. Got some old BOCEPHUS on the radio.
republic of what? I might run up to the PUBLIX grocery store and and RE-stock my fridge with some more PBR and pork rinds, thats the only REPUBLIX i know of
Steel, you will prolly get the FV, but no rage outta dis redneck. I'm stayin home to party with my buds, besides that will prolly be enuff to cause me and my sister to get a D-Vorce.
I might have a party when I invite my buds over to help me take the wheels off my new double wide when this thing takes off tho.
Not a big crowd person, rather just sit out back of my trailer house, in my lawn chair with a few good friend sippin on some quality Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer, and knawin' on pork rinds and pickled pigs feet.
science guy, good luck to you as well, I think you have made a wise decision...wish i could do the same, but just don't have that much self control. as for meeting in philly one day, that prolly won't happen. I mean I believe that this thing will fly, but I am not going to put myself in a situation, since I already know that I can't exercise self control. There are a few peeps in here that I would like to pop in the jaw, just ain't worth all the trouble it would bring.