I respect that.

Take a deeper look into Catholicism.

That's funny.

So are you still Methodist or something else?

I know. I know lol

Just wanted to know why you are Protestant.

I think you'd make a good Catholic.

Tell me why you are a Protestant.


This should get real interesting.

Catholic don't hate Protestants.

We are laid back and reserved but when we go on the offensive we shred Protestants to pieces.

Don't be jealous.


This is your board. So by default liking you goes without saying.


Still waiting on this guy to give me his prove/response..


I'll probably wait til the end of ages...

I must say that you are my favorite Ihub heretic.

Explain to me and everyone else what the fact that women can't be Priests.... Proves?

The society that Christianity brought.... Is a GOD DOMINATED SOCIETY....

I'll be waiting for your explanation as to what it proves...

Don't be shy... remember I like you.

The men who wrote the bible were not wrong you are wrong in your understanding of the Bible.


The Adam and Eve creation story is a myth. If it were true then God would encourage incest right? Cuz that's the only way the world would populate.

Think about it. Most people running around have a completely wrong understanding of the Bible.

This leads to people into going astray and believing in false doctrines.

This is why the Bible and Catholic Church rightfully tells us about the need for proper interpretation.


It was written by man thru Divine Inspiration. It is not historical or scientific truth.

The Bible is the truth that is necessary for our salvation.

It took 4 different stages to put it together.

It has different Literary Forms. Not just one. All spread out in

72 books.

Literary Forms include: Poetry, Narrative,Proverbs,Song,Myth,Parables.....etc...


Pick up the Bible read it for yourself. That's good.

But if you put it's proper interpretation as your own.... Then you'll be in a state of confusion.

Go to a local Catholic Church and inquire about R.C.I.A or Bible Study.

If you think people who believe in the Bible are idiots or must be brainwashed. Then consider all the great minds throughout history that were men of faith. Men within the Catholic faith and other Christians.


With any book. The author is the best source :)

Good luck.

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I did say that they were all Jews.

I said it soo many times on this board.

Catholicism has Jewish roots.

Research it.

Much of what we do is rooted in Jewish tradition.

Why? because Christ and the disciples were Jewish and they founded the Catholic Church.

There is your answer.

Tomorrow should be fun.

The United States has never been friendly to Catholics. The founders actually held disdain towards the Church.

So in a lot of ways. This is a nation of heretics. Just look at the multiple denominations that call the United States home/origin.

The South is the epicenter of this animosity.

Catholics believe Jesus as the only King above all men. King of Kings.

Now that just does not flow with government or monarchies does it?

LOL.

That's fair.

Different views are healthy.

You've been quiet all day.


Have you accepted the truth that Christ did not have any siblings?

Sorry I did not address this part.

Catholics believe that people who are ignorant of Jesus Christ and his teachings by no fault of their own, can have the grace of salvation.

If they live a good life with a good heart, love and good works. They have a chance at heaven.


It's the truth that is growing on you. I'm just a witness to it.

I encourage all to seek and find the truth. It is beautiful.


The Catholic Church holds the truth.

It's wants to share it with you.

Man I like you.

You are very smart. You ask great questions.


The scriptures talk about Moses and others in heaven with God and Jesus along with all the Angels and Saints.

So yes. There are some in heaven but not all.


Enoch went straight up into heaven. Remember?

The Catholic Church is just a continuation of the covenant God made with Abraham.


During the passion most of the Jews severed this covenant when they rejected Jesus and declared "Caesar as their King".


Well did the covenant break?

No it did not. A few Jews upheld the covenant thru Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church.

Jesus was a Jew. Mary was a Jew. All the disciples were Jews.

Great question.

Interesting.

Now let's look at the same passage that you provided. What is it really saying?

Well let us see.

"Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses. All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not.For they bind heavy and insupportable burdens, and lay them on men's shoulders; but with a finger of their own they will not move them.And all their works they do for to be seen of men. For they make their phylacteries broad, and enlarge their fringes." Matthew 23: 1-4.

Jesus ordered the people AND his disciples to obey and do as those who sit on the chair of Moses say to do. But not to follow their ambitious and hypocritical ways. There is a difference. Do as they teach but not as they actually do.

Why would Christ order his followers to follow hypocrites?

Because they hold the truth. The doctrines.Although they may not follow it to a T.

Now where is the Chair of Moses?

It no longer exists. It has been replaced with the Chair of St. Peter.

The Catholic Church is the New Israel. It holds the chair. The Pope sits on it. It has the doctrines. So we must obey the doctrines and teachings of the Church. But if the clergy is doing wrong we are not to do as they do. But as they teach.


That is the same scripture you provided. The same scripture I used to give you the Catholic teaching, the correct interpretation.

LOL. I can use that same to further prove my point.

But please explain what you mean with this scripture.

Does it matter how Jesus dressed?

Please. Explain why. If it matters. Did Jesus say "Dress like me" or did he say follow me?

The outfits of the clergy do not go against Jesus or scripture.

Let's stop being silly.

If you are going to attack the Church.

You will have to go beyond the vestments of the clergy.

That's the Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI successor of St. Peter.

He is holding a Staff in this picture because he is the Shepherd of the Flock.(Shepherds carry staffs) Flock is the Catholic Church. Jesus has one flock. Not 41,000. which is the number of denominations/Churches in the world..

Here is scripture:

"When therefore they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter: Simon son of John, lovest thou me more than these? He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith to him: Feed my lambs.

He saith to him again: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith to him: Feed my lambs.He said to him the third time: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved, because he had said to him the third time: Lovest thou me? And he said to him: Lord, thou knowest all things: thou knowest that I love thee. He said to him: Feed my sheep.Amen, amen I say to thee, when thou wast younger, thou didst gird thyself, and didst walk where thou wouldst. But when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and lead thee whither thou wouldst not. And this he said, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had said this, he saith to him: Follow me.Peter turning about, saw that disciple whom Jesus loved following, who also leaned on his breast at supper, and said: Lord, who is he that shall betray thee?" John 21:15-19.


Feed my sheep: Our Lord had promised the spiritual supremacy to St. Peter; St. Matt. 16. 19; and here he fulfils that promise, by charging him with the superintendency of all his sheep, without exception; and consequently of his whole flock, that is, of his own church.

This is straightforward irrefutable evidence. And the picture in your post shows the successor of St. Peter hold a Shepherd's staff. The Pope is feeding the sheep as Christ commanded his predecessor St. Peter.

You feed the flock with the Gospel and truth of Jesus Christ.



LOL.


You guys are entertaining.

You should take notes from Chole*

Nothing comes from ignorance.

Ding Ding!

We have a winner.

The Birth of Mary is the Immaculate Conception.


She was conceived without sin.

She was Immaculate.

Jesus received his divinity from God.

His human sinless nature from his Mother :)

Oh How I love my Catholic Faith.

The truth it upholds.

Wrong.

What is the immaculate conception?

Think fast...

Give me an answer quick.

Say who? You? Are you the Authority who says so?

Who made you the authority?


Please provide us with the Unaltered,unedited,uncompiled, uninterpreted,unmanipulated etc..... doctrines....


Put up or shut up.


BTW... You'll never be able to.

.0012 needs to fall.


I understand what you mean.

C'mon now stop being silly.


Why would you or whoever you are talking about have it?


The Catholic Church on the other hand has it. From the days of Christ.


Enough with the silliness now.

The Church is a 2000 year old institution. It is not like your local protestant churches.

It holds doctrines that go back to the days of Christ.

You cannot argue that fact.

This is heading towards border line ignorance.

Good question. Again. We getting somewhere.

I obtained it straight from Jesus Christ.

Let me explain.

How?

Jesus Christ established a teaching Church (Catholic Church) with full authority on earth and in heaven. See below.

" And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven." Matthew 16:18-19

Peter was the first Pope. Well one can say oh that stopped with Pete how does it apply to the Church today?

Well let's see...

"In those days Peter rising up in the midst of the brethren, said: (now the number of persons together was about an hundred and twenty:)

Men, brethren, the scripture must needs be fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost spoke before by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who was the leader of them that apprehended Jesus: Who was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. And he indeed hath possessed a field of the reward of iniquity, and being hanged, burst asunder in the midst: and all his bowels gushed out. And it became known to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem: so that the same field was called in their tongue, Haceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. For it is written in the book of Psalms: Let their habitation become desolate, and let there be none to dwell therein. And his bishopric let another take.

Wherefore of these men who have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus came in and went out among us, Beginning from the baptism of John, until the day wherein he was taken up from us, one of these must be made a witness with us of his resurrection. And they appointed two, Joseph, called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. And praying, they said: Thou, Lord, who knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, To take the place of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas hath by transgression fallen, that he might go to his own place.

And they gave them lots, and the lot fell upon Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles." Acts 1: 15-26.


The scripture above is Apostolic succession. It happened during the time of Jesus. In this instance Judas was being replaced. This tradition goes on to this very day in the Catholic Church.

There are 120 Cardinals eligible to become Pope. Just like the 120 men that were in that upper room.

Authority and teachings are passed down thru the ages with Apostolic succession.

This is why the Catholic Church is 2000 years old and still holds the same truths as 33 AD.....

Christ set up his Church so that all may know and hear his truth.

"which is the Church of the living God,the pillar and foundation of truth." 1 Timothy 3:15


He said that the truth will set you free. In other words the need the truth for salvation.

This is how I and other Catholics are confident in the truth of Jesus Christ.

You are welcome. I am doing all of this off the top of my head so bear with me.

Why is this such a "WOW" moment for you?

Is it because you are now finding out the truth?

Jesus is the high priest of the Catholic Church.

"In the days when he was in the flesh, he offered prayers and supplications with loud cries and tears to the one who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered: and when he was made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him, declared by God high priest according to the order of Melchizedek." Hebrews 5:7-9.

And as the High Priest of the Catholic Church.

I mean he would be Catholic.

I will explain.

The truth shall set you free :)

Ah. Good question.

Now we can get to the nitty gritty.

Ah. Good question.

Now we can get to the nitty gritty.

St. Luke.

Please tell me what Church St. Luke belonged to.


Tell me.

I have yet to receive an answer from you about which Church other than the Catholic Church authored the Bible.

All authors were full members of the Catholic Church.

Like I said. The Church the mystical body. Gave us the Bible not the other way around.


c'mon. Obviously 1+1 does not = 2. Around these parts.

.............. Anything is possible with God.

You think like a man.

Your little mind is limited.

Even heretics back during the days of Christ.


Accepted the virgin birth. That is historical fact.


St.Luke a Doctor. Author of a Gospel. hmmmm even he wrote about the virgin birth.


It wasn't disputed. In other words your opinion does not matter :)

Remember what the bible says about scripture and those that interpret it. Gave you a few passages.

Here is another.

"Speaking of these things as he does in all his letters. In them there are some things hard to understand that the ignorant and unstable distort to their own destruction, just as they do the other scriptures." 2 Peter 3:16.

My friend the Torah is not the Bible.

The Bible as we have it today. Did not exist before the Catholic Church.


The Old testament existed before. Those were the scriptures that all believers (including) Jesus and the disciples read and believed.

The old testament by itself is not the bible.

The bible is both old and new testaments.

So you are absolutely 100% correct. The Church did not write the old testament.

It never claimed to have.

Something tells me you are searching for the real truth.

Watch the video below. It will help you greatly.

I read your post and took the above quote straight from it.

"Those early Christians" were Catholics. The same scriptures that they wrote also described them attending mass. Did St. John not write one of the Gospels? Was he not at mass with the Virgin Mary.

The Bible did not give the Church the Gospels. The Church gave the world the Gospels.

when we say the Church we are talking about the entire body of the Church.

These Catholic writings and letters needed to be approved by the governing body of the Church. That happened 380 years after Jesus.

So tell me. If the Protestants who came 1500 years later. did that?

Soo.... try again.

It's funny that in your source you use Catholic sources.

Funny.