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WHO KNOWS WHERE THIS THING WILL END UP FALLING. WITH THE ADVENT OF A NEW STOCK HELD 86% BY THE CEO. THIS POS TURNED INTO A WILDCARD ON THE DOWNSIDE. BUT GOOD TO KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE A BUYER.
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHEN THEY POST IT. JUST RIDE THE HYPE. WHO KNOWS WHAT THOSE NUMBERS MEAN. ONE TIME CONTRACT, CREATIVE ACCOUNTING WITH THE NEW TURD. UN-AUDITED. JUST RIDE IT. IN PINKYLAND YOU HOLD EM LONG ENOUGH AND THEY JUST BITE A PERSON IN THE ARSE. JUST ASK ANYBODY THAT WAS EXPECTING .03 IN 2013 OR .05 IN 2014.
FAIR VALUE IS CURRENTLY .002 CENTS. IMO WHERE THE COMPANY SOLD OFF SHARES. FUNNY HOW THAT SELLER HAD NO CONFIDENCE WHATSOEVER IN THIS POS TO HOLD A FEW MILLION.
BUT WITH THE UNCERTAINTY OF NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY HAVE IN STORE FOR US. THE VALUE IS EVEN LOWER. THE ONLY THING WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN IS THAT JNSH IS A POS, THERE IS NO MONEY IN PUBLIC CHARGING AND ALL AUTOMAKERS ARE EMBRACING FUEL CELLS.
Yup! Very bullish! The auto manufacturers know people are holding off buying BEV's because of the KILLER lineup hitting the market in 2016 and beyond!
The auto world... is about to change!
More Good News For Fuel Cell EV Fans
http://cleantechnica.com/2015/04/17/good-news-fuel-cell-ev-fans/
April 17th, 2015 by Tina Casey
We were just talking about using wind and solar energy to source “green” hydrogen for fuel cell electric vehicles earlier this week, and along comes two more bits of news to gladden the hearts of fuel cell EV early adopters. First up is Rice University with some new research that could make green hydrogen on the cheap, and then we’ll take a look at a new tidal energy project that hooks up with a hydrogen recovery system.
Rice U green hydrogen for fuel cell EVs
Green Hydrogen For Green Fuel Cell EVs
For those of you new to the hydrogen issue, it’s a doozy. Think natural gas fracking and you’re on the right track. In other words, hydrogen is so not a clean fuel. The advantage it has right now is zero emissions at the tailpipe, which is good but not nearly good enough for communities that host fracking and natural gas transmission operations.
We discussed the fracking/fuel cell EV issue in detail earlier this week, and to be fair, battery EVs face similar issues when they are charged from a coal or natural gas-dependent grid, but still end up much, much cleaner thanks to the efficiency of their overall systems.
Meanwhile, the future may not be so gloomy for hydrogen, and for that we thank you, taxpayers of the USA. A large-scale demo project for sourcing hydrogen from water is under way in California, under the auspices of SoCalGas with the support of the Energy Department. The system can be powered with wind or solar energy, which cuts natural gas out of the picture.
Cheap, Green Hydrogen For Fuel Cell EVs
That brings us to the Rice hydrogen research.
With your sparkling green hydrogen in hand, you still have to think about the cost of tooling around in a fuel cell EV compared to other rides. Part of that cost has to do with the catalyst used to wrench hydrogen and oxygen apart.
The current catalyst of choice is based on platinum, which needless to say is quite pricey.
The Rice team came up with a thin film based on cobalt that could do the same job, and do it better, and cheaper, too. No, really — the material itself is cheaper, and the manufacturing process is inexpensive and scalable.
The image above shows a side view of cobalt phosphide/phosphate thin film, and if you want to know how thin, you can measure it from the scale bar of 500 nanometers, located at the lower right corner.
To ice the cake, instead of just recovering hydrogen, the same material also produces recoverable oxygen.
The team is part of the James Tour lab group at Rice, and if that rings a bell you may be thinking of the lab’s groundbreaking energy storage work based on graphene and its “cousin,” molybdenum.
Speaking of US taxpayers, before we get on to that tidal energy thing, let’s pause here for a big group hug, because our friends over at the Air Force Office of Scientific Research supported the Rice team through its Multidisciplinary University Research Initiative. Didn’t know we had one of those, did you?
More Green Sources For Green Fuel Cell EVs
The Rice team envisions using wind and solar energy to go with their new low-cost hydrogen catalyst, which brings us right around to that tidal energy thing.
Our new best friends over at ITM Power tipped us to a tidal energy test site in Scotland that sports an integrated hydrogen system.
ITM will be providing the hydrogen end of things, which is based on the a polymer electrolyte membrane.
The idea is to store excess energy from the tidal turbines in the form of hydrogen, so an on-site fuel cell is included in the ITM package.
But wait, there’s more. Excess hydrogen is also anticipated from the project, and that will be shipped off site to another energy storage system, helping to boost the reliability of power supplied by a local community wind turbine.
A Brighter Future For Fuel Cell EVs
Fuel cell EVs have taken their share of lumps over here at CleanTechnica and our sister site Gas2.org, but we would also like to point out that way back in the early days of auto manufacturing, battery electric vehicles were the way to go.
Something happened along the way — gasoline and diesel leapfrogged over electricity — and it has taken battery electric vehicles around 100 years — yes, 100 years — to even begin to catch up.
We’re not saying that battery EVs are heading for another 100-year fall, just that fuel cell EV technology should not be counted out after a mere 30 or so years of trying.
Add hydrogen produced with tidal energy to solar and wind, and then consider a drop in the cost of fuel cells, and it seems that things are moving along at a nice clip on the hydrogen front, at least as far as stationary fuel cells go.
Mobile fuel cells — aka fuel cell EVs — are a whole ‘nother ball of wax, but it seems to us that all of this hydrogen activity is going to trickle down to the personal mobility market, sooner or later.
However, aside from cost and cleanliness, they still have a lot of big hurdles to overcome. But perhaps one day in the sparkling green future the personal mobility market will accommodate both.
Automakers vow not to give up on weak-selling electrics
http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2015/03/03/Automakers-vow-not-to-give-up-on-weak-selling-electrics.html
Thing are looking really great here. Image as the rebates evaporate. After 6 years we get the message.
Automakers Continue Support Of Electric Vehicles Despite Weak Sales
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/03/automakers-continue-support-electric-vehicles-despite-weak-sales/
First five Toyota Mirai fuel cell vehicles arrive in Europe
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/08/12/first-toyota-mirai-fuel-cell-vehicles-arrive-europe/
It is starting. Just imagine, the general public is not aware of a car that runs on water.LMAO. Do you think Toyota will make use of that concept in their awareness campaigns they are doing. LMAO. Like Toyota ever loses.
Remember when Toyota bought a boatload of tesla shares????? they took the battery tech applied it to the FCEV THEY WERE WORKING ON then sold the turd tesla stock at a handsome profit. reducing the cost of the fuel cell development.
Seems like there are two investors in this world. People that pick winners like Toyota and people that pick losers like the turd.
Federally funded car charging stations little used
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/4/federally-funded-car-charging-stations-little-used/?page=all
I do have to admit. It appears EVUS is a far greater POS than the turd. Funny how it was kept so quiet. Almost seems like they knew it is a BAD thing. All those awareness people on that board. A 50 dollar market cap. OMG. How many red flags does a person need for this POS.
BMW begins tests of fuel-cell car developed with Toyota
http://www.autonews.com/article/20150702/OEM05/150709965/bmw-begins-tests-of-fuel-cell-car-developed-with-toyota
MIRAMAS, France (Bloomberg) -- BMW will test a vehicle powered by hydrogen fuel cells -- developed with Toyota -- for the first time on public roads this month as the German automaker looks to expand clean-car offerings after rolling out the battery-powered i3 in 2013.
The company plans “a technically mature, customer-ready vehicle some time after 2020,” Matthias Klietz, head of powertrain research, told journalists at BMW’s test track here. “By around 2025 to 2030, we expect fuel cell cars to have an established presence, but there are challenges that remain, like building the refueling infrastructure.”
BMW is developing fuel cells with Japanese partner Toyota Motor Corp., and it demonstrated a 5-series Gran Turismo prototype in Miramas on Wednesday that uses the companies’ joint technology. The model is part of the industry’s multibillion-dollar effort to create alternative powering setups and improve fuel use to meet tightening emissions rules.
Fuel cells, which have provided spacecraft with power since the 1960s, produce electricity by reacting hydrogen with air, enabling longer travel than battery-driven vehicles while emitting only water vapor rather than carbon dioxide. Disadvantages include a lack of service stations equipped to replenish the hydrogen gas, and the high cost of rare metals needed for the technology.
Infrastructure discussions
BMW is in talks with other carmakers, governments and utilities on how to speed up the creation of a refueling network, Axel Ruecker, who’s part of Munich-based BMW hydrogen development team, said at the prototype demonstration. Toyota and Japanese competitors Nissan Motor Co. and Honda Motor Co. pledged Wednesday to contribute funds to developing a hydrogen-fueling network in that country.
On a trip around the Miramas track, the Gran Turismo handled like any other electric car, except for a hissing sound during sharp acceleration from a pump passing hydrogen and air through the fuel cells. BMW also showed a plug-in hybrid version of its van-like 2-series Active Tourer, due to go on sale next year, and a 1-series compact equipped with a conventional motor that uses water injection to boost fuel efficiency.
The fuel-cell Gran Turismo has a range of 500 kilometers (310 miles) before refueling. That’s more than triple the i3’s 160 kilometers. The i3’s batteries take at least five hours to recharge, compared with five minutes to fill the prototype’s hydrogen tank.
‘Technically’ ready
“Technically, we’re ready to put fuel-cell cars on the road, but so far it remains too expensive,” Ruecker said. “Making fuel-cell technology a reality is a task not just for carmakers, but for the whole of society.”
By the start of 2018, the world’s fleet of fuel-cell cars will number just 8,400, up from a total 1,275 at the end of this year, Bloomberg New Energy Finance estimates.
Toyota President Akio Toyoda, left, and BMW CEO Norbert Reithofer began their collaboration in January 2013.
BMW, the world’s largest maker of luxury cars, came late to fuel cell technology after previously focusing on hydrogen combustion engines, including a limited run of 7-series sedans in 2005. That project struggled with developing storage tanks for the liquid hydrogen fuel.
Competitor Mercedes-Benz started working on fuel cells for vehicles in 1994 and began producing a version of its B-class compact powered by the technology in 2009. Toyota, the world’s biggest auto manufacturer, began sales in December of the $62,000 Mirai fuel-cell sedan. It’s targeting 3,000 deliveries of the car in the U.S. through 2017.
BMW began cooperating with Toyota in 2013, with about 100 people involved in the fuel-cell project across the two companies. The partners said Monday that they plan to make fuel-cell components by 2020. The alliance also includes sharing development of a mid-size sports car.
Competing against each other? Really? Nothing could be further from the truth...
I seem to remember the OS being around 120M then. So 120,000,000 x 80 would be 9.6B before the Reverse Merger.
He owns 4.6 billion shares...86%
LET'S LOOK AT THIS FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE. REGARDLESS ON HOW MUCH SHAREHOLDERS GET SCREWED FROM THIS DEAL. THE WHOLE EV INDUSTRY IS IN THE TOILET. 6 BILLION SHARES IS JUST A PRECURSOR TO DILUTION. AFTER 6 YEARS EV'S HAVE JUST ACCOUNT FOR HALF A PERCENT MARKET SHARE. GROWTH HAS FLATLINED IF NOT GOING DOWN WITH REBATES STARTING TO EVAPORATE. CHARGE TIME IS JUST UNACCEPTABLE. EVERY CAR MAKER HAS PLANS TO MAKE FUEL CELLS. ANOTHER WORDS. EVUS IS A TURD ANYWAY.
SURELY THERE MUST BE A BETTER STOCK OUT THERE THAN THIS POS....
Any moderator can add any content to the iBox without requesting permission...
I SMELL A CLASS ACTION.........
6 BILLION SHARES TO SELL, SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM LMAO...
I AM REALLY TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE HERE BUT HOLY MACKEREL. THIS COMPANY HAS ALWAYS SO VAGUE AND SECRETIVE. YOU JUST GET THIS FEELING OF DISTRUST. EVEN IF THEY MERGE IT TOGETHER WHAT WILL THAT MEAN FOR SHAREHOLDERS. THIS THING HAS 6 BILLION SHARES AND THE CEO OWNS WHAT 86%.
THE EV CHARGING INDUSTRY IS IN THE TOILET, IT ALWAYS WAS. THE EV INDUSTRY TURNED OUT TO BE A FLOP AND WILL GET WORST AS FUEL CELLS COME IN. READING THE EVUS FILING IS A JOKE. DID THEY SAY THEY WERE LOOKING TO INTERNATIONAL. AT LEAST THEY SHOULD USED SOME LUBRICANT.
quote]Was it in the iBox before they ended it? [/quote]
THAT STATEMENT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RELEVANCE TO MY QUESTION. CAN I ADD THAT INFO?????
THE ONLY SILVER LINING IN THIS POS IS THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO BUY MILLIONS OF SHARES FOR .006. NOT SURE HOW LONG THAT WILL LAST. AS I SAID, SELL THIS POS ON NEWS, GOOD OR BAD. BULLS MAKE MONEY, BEARS MAKE MONEY BUT PIGS GET SLAUGHTERED. ANYONE LOOKING TO TRY TO PULL ANY MONEY OUT OF THIS POS IS A PIG. TAKE WHATEVER YOU CAN GET BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS WHY DID HE DO THAT WITHOUT TELLING SHAREHOLDERS. MY SECOND THOUGH WAS WHY HE NEEDS BILLIONS OF SHARES, WHICH CONCLUDES MY THIRD JUST HOW MUCH JNSH SHAREHOLDERS WILL GET SCREWED.
CAN I ADD THE ILLINOIS DECISION TO END THE $4,000 REBATE PROGRAM AND OUR CEO'S NEW EV CHARGING BUSINESS TO THE IBOX????
LMAO, BEFORE WHENEVER SOMEONE SAID EV SALES WERE UP, IT WAS RELEVANT. NOW WHEN WE HEAR ILLINOIS HAS STOPPED THE $4'000 EV REBATE PROGRAM, WHICH HAS A DIRECT AFFECT OF EV SALES. IT IS NOT RELEVANT. THIS IS WAY TOO MUCH.
I remember asking the board, where will Brian get his payday. Like all stinky pinkies I thought through dilution. But this is clever indeed. PAID PROMO GUYS THERE AS WELL LMAO. BILLIIONS OF SHARES HOLYSHITE. As I said before, Brian isn't a charity worker trying to get shareholders rich. To think he was just working for a salary LMAO.
#dontshootmeiiamonlythepianoplayer
I would also like to add to IBOX the CEO's new company. It is relevant because many bought the POS thinking The EV charging part of the business was the big kahuna. The business is not a complimentary business to the turd, rather a competitor. If the CEO explains later what or how the relation will be we will change the IBOX. But right now I want to know IF I CAN ADD IT TO THE IBOX????
It is relevant. The income of chargers are a direct correlation as to how many cars . And that data is important to investors and potential investors alike. If the program is resumed , then by all means will update the I ic to reflect it. So can we add it?????
CAN I ADD TO THE IBOX THE FACT THAT THE STATE OF ILLINOIS HAS ENDED THE $4,000 EV REBATE PROGRAM????
That is correct, 6 months ago and 6 months from now Chicago turd owners will no longer be able to get $4,000 rebates. I sure as heck would like to know that before I buy an EV charging stock. CANI ADD IT TO IBOX. After all it is still current????
How many investors were aware of this???? What else does Brian have in store for us.?????? I miss 2014.
I never would have thought in a million years they would make another company with billions of shares that is in the core business that we are invested here. And to be kept so quiet. Unbelievable. Typical stinky pinky.
The state of Illinois has ended the $4,000 rebate program. We are told rebates have been carrying whole industry. I am sure any new investors would like to know before they invest. As would the new investors that bought a few months ago. who knew about it?????? CAN I ADD IT TO THE IBOX????
Illinois
"In late March 2015, representatives of the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency announced that consumers who purchased a new plug-in vehicle in 2014, or later, will not receive a $4,000 rebate from the state. The rebate program was started in 1998. There are currently no plans to reinstate the program. "
For questions, contact Darwin Burkhart, Manager, Clean Air Programs, Illinois Environmental Protection Agency and Chicago Area Clean Cities Coalition. darwin.burkhart@illinois.gov; http://www.illinoisgreenfleets.org
I can't wait for earnings and meaningful discussions actually about JNSH...
Well, since neither of us fit that bill... It is obvious that the insight of someone who actually lives here is far more valuable into what people drive here..
The folks that I know that drive them couldn't be happier!
AND one of them is a JNSH shareholder after learning whose chargers he uses...
Which input is more valuable?
The iBox is for actual company facts... not unrelated fool cell nonsense!
How does the resale value of EV cars impact JNSH? Again... totally irrelevant!
MANY THINGS HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE PAST YEAR. CAN I UPDATE THE IBOX TO BETTER RELECT THE CURRENT SITUATION.
TIA
Good thing JNSH doesn't sell electric cars...
Resale Prices Tumble on Electric Cars
http://www.wsj.com/articles/resale-prices-tumble-on-electric-cars-1424977378
This really getting ugly. I really hope people are able to get out of this POS with a minimal loss.
SELL ON ANY NEWS, THERE MUST BE A BETTER PLAY OUT THERE. ONE THAT CAN MAKE UP FOR THESE LOSES.
Why Tesla Is Cutting Jobs in the World’s Biggest Auto Market
Is JNSH in California?
Illinois
In late March 2015, representatives of the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency announced that consumers who purchased a new plug-in vehicle in 2014, or later, will not receive a $4,000 rebate from the state. The rebate program was started in 1998. There are currently no plans to reinstate the program.
For questions, contact Darwin Burkhart, Manager, Clean Air Programs, Illinois Environmental Protection Agency and Chicago Area Clean Cities Coalition. darwin.burkhart@illinois.gov; http://www.illinoisgreenfleets.org