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ASCM and others will soon be chasing this monster. Right now they're just a little annoying, like a mosquito on an elephants ear.
Taken from Scottrade:
Bid/Size
0.0122 / 5,000 Ask/Size
0.0127 / 5,000
Price Open
0.0144
Just a wee bit of manipulation would be my guess. LOL
Let them play their games. My answer to them is TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK !!!! ( their time is running out )
You're right M2G, my estimate was just on the 50 new hires. Who says the original 50 aren't making units already. This also could only be the initial hiring for one shift. That's why I say this is a very very conservative estimate based on the first P.O. Sure wish I had a crystal ball, but I believe only one person on this board seems to have one. LOL IMO
HP, this is strickly a conservative speculation on my part. If the markups are above 100%, ( which I believe they will be ) sales could be double or triple this estimate. Guess we'll just have to wait for the financials. GLTA
Conservatively a big "YES"
Circa, some people may be HOPING the PPS will go down, but I believe you and I think differently based on facts, rather then theory.
Why yes it was. He invested a dollar for every unit they manufactured this week. LOL
I believe it's very possible, once the kids have extracted their lunch money for the week. IMO
PC, it's been quite a journey so far. A few bumps and bruises along the way. Looking forward to the next leg up. We may need a ladder. LOL
BINGO BANGO BONGO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reminder:
Partner identified to install hydrogen engine systems
Jul. 16, 2012 Fleet Owner
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Velociti will provide a network of installation and post-installation services for the Hy-Impact hydrogen fuel systems. Alternative Hydrogen Solutions (AHS), providers of the Hy-Impact line of hydrogen systems, will work with Velociti through a strategic partnership to make the systems available for engines of all sizes on for-hire and private fleets, commercial marine fleets, oil services machinery, agricultural machinery, locomotives, and municipal vehicles.
“We understand that when a vehicle isn’t moving it is likely someone is not making money,” said Bill Cunetta, president of AHS. “Making sure our Hy-Impact products are professionally installed in a swift and organized fashion is very important, especially to our large fleet operators. Velociti is the obvious choice to meet our expectations.”
The Hy-Impact line was designed and manufactured by Highline Technical Innovations. The product line uses hydrogen as a catalyst to more effectively burn fuel, AHS said, resulting in a 9-23% improvement in fuel economy and lowered emissions.
In the system, hydrogen is separated from water via the process of electrolysis allowing a precise amount of hydrogen gas to be introduced into the engine’s combustion chamber, creating a significantly more efficient fuel burn, the company explained.
“The use of hydrogen systems to improve fuel economy in combustion engines has been on our radar for quite some time,” said Deryk Powell, COO of Velociti. “But frankly, until now, we’ve not felt a viable solution was available in the market. After many months of studying the engineering, manufacturing and design for AHS’s Hy-Impact product, we feel confident AHS offers enterprise-level users the solution they’ve been waiting for. The market potential for AHS is massive in size and we are pleased they understand the importance of professional deployment and trust Velociti to get the job done.”
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Who is Velociti ? ( go to their web site for further info on the case studies below)
Velociti has earned a reputation as a leading technology deployment expert. Velociti clients include many Fortune 500 companies from a wide variety of market segments, including transportation, retail, food service, manufacturing, distribution, healthcare, government, hospitality and outdoor venues. Velociti offers service throughout the world.
Case Studies
Transportation Case StudiesNetworking Case Studies
Transportation Case Studies
Case Study: Sentinel Transportation Engages Velociti to Deploy Multiple Aftermarket Technologies throughout US Fleet
Customer: Sentinel Transportation Industry: Transportation, Logistics & Distribution
Scope of Work: Drivecam , Peoplenet, Iteris , Doran Tire Pressure Monitoring System
Number of Units: 200 retrofit / 50 new
Time frame: Spring
Case Study: Velociti Deploying over 24,000 PSI Systems for Werner Enterprises
Customer: Werner Enterprises Industry: Transportation
Scope of Work: The Meritor Tire Inflation System by P.S.I.™ - an Automatic Tire Inflation System - ATIS™
Number: 10
Timeframe: 9/2010 to present
Case Study: Velociti Provides Fleet & Facility Deployment Solution for Old Dominion Freight Line
Customer: Old Dominion Freight Line Industry: Transportation and Logistics
Scope of Work: PeopleNet On-Board Communication Systems and Cisco Access Points
Number of Units: 4,000+ Tractors
Number of Sites: 208 Locations
Time frame: 9 months
Case Study: Sysco Turns to Velociti for Extensive Multiple-Scope Deployment Solution
Sysco Corporation Customer: Sysco Corporation
Industry: Food Service Distributor
Scopes of Work: DriveCam, XATANET, SAP Fleet Re-identification, STS Handheld Cradles, SLS Zone Tags, EDVIS Barcode Systems, Gasboy Fuel Management
Case Study: Velociti Works With Heartland Express to Deploy PeopleNet on Entire Fleet
Customer: Heartland Express Industry: Transportation & Logistics
Scope of Work: PeopleNet On-Board Communication Systems
Number of Sites: 9
Timeframe: 6 Months
Case Study: Velociti installs DriveCam on 1,500 Washington Metropolitan Transportation Authority Buses
Customer: Washington Metropolitan Area Transportation Authority Industry: Public Transportation
Scope of Work: Drive Cam
Number of Units: 1,500 Buses
Number of Sites: 8 Terminal Locations
Timeframe: 12 Weeks
Case Study: The Unique Challange of the CR England Trailer Tracking Deployment
Customer: CR England Industry: Transportation and Logistics
Scope of Work: Trailer Tracking
Number of Units: 5,000 plus
Number of Sites: 35 plus
Timeframe: 12 months
Case Study: Velociti deploys 46,000 VeriWise Trailer Tracking Systems for Walmart
Customer: Walmart Industry: Transportation and Logistics
Scope of Work: VeriWise Trailer Tracking
Number of Units: 46,000
Timeframe: 5 months
Case Study: XTRA Lease Selects Velociti for 30,000+ Qualcomm installations
Customer: Xtra LeaseIndustry: Transportation and Logistics
Scope of Work: Qualcomm T2 Systems
Number of Units: 30,000+ dry Van Trailers
Timeframe: 11 months
Case Study: Ferrellgas chooses Velociti to manage its extensive mobile technology integration
Customer: Ferrellgas Industry: Propane
Scope of Work: Onboard computers and printers, GPS
Number of Units: 4,500 trucks
Case Study: J.B. Hunt selects Velociti to install 18,000 trailer tracking systems
Customer: J.B. HuntIndustry: Transportation & Logistics
Scope of Work: Trailer Tracking
Number of Units: 18,000 trucks
Timeframe: 16 months
Networking Case StudiesCase Study: Advance Auto Parts turns to Velociti to install improved business process technology
Customer: Advance Auto PartsIndustry: Retail
Scope of Work: Upgrade RF & Computer Equipment
Number of Sites: 2,600
Timeframe: 90 days
Case Study: Velociti Provides Fleet & Facility Deployment Solution for Old Dominion Freight Line
Customer: Old Dominion Freight Line
Industry: Transportation and Logistics
Scope of Work: PeopleNet On-Board Communication Systems and Cisco Access Points
Number of Units: 4,000+ Tractors
Number of Sites: 208 Locations
Time frame: 9 months
Case Study: XTRA Lease selects Velociti to install mobility solutions
Customer:XTRA LeaseIndustry: Transportation & Logistics
Scope of Work: WLAN
Number of Sites:97
Timeframe: 10 Months
Case Study: Velociti and Axcess International Provide Security Solution for Port of Barbados
Customer: Axcess InternationalIndustry: Security
Scope of Work: RFID/WLAN/WMD Sensors
Timeframe: 60 days
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Easy Assets, you were once a newbie. Check his posts. I think you may be jumping to conclusions. Let's not discourage anyone new from posting here. IMO
I sure have and GLOBAL is still one of my favorite words.
Although it is in a round about manner, I believe I received the answer I was expecting to the question I sent in.
3. Does HTI have anything in the works with Dongfeng other
than the HOSS? (i.e. 1.6 liter engine).
Quote:
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The Joint Venture between HTI and Dongfeng Motor Corporation, Ltd.
involves both a gasoline implementation and a diesel implementation. The gasoline version is currently undergoing EPA certification.
Here comes the 5000 share MM manipulation. Always hate this part as it does discourage some. Oh well, just like mother nature, looks like we're at their mercy here in Pennyland.
Transfer whatever shares you can into a Roth, and you will eliviate that problem ( at least this year anyway )
Wish I could OIA, but I'm on a fixed income. You might try Jason. LOL
I suggest you big spenders pick up the last few scraps available(sub-pennies)as the clock is ticking. TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK
Nice volume today. Close at .01 would be just fine with me. A nice steady flow up and accumulation along the way to built a strong base. IMO
Just got caught up on all the weekend posts. Noticed that some involved EPA testing. This post is a year old but may shed some light on where testing may be taking place.
Post# 40106
In case you might have missed this: A testimonial on the Wildcat 9000 posted on the Smartpower's Inc. website:
OTR
TESTING/LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS
SENSOR’S INC./HTI
April 12-13, 2011
2010 Kenworth 15 liter Cummins ISX450
Test #1 SRT Truck tank topped off.
Base run of 45 miles at 60 mph w/base of 7.516 mpg.
First Test Run-45 miles absent Supplemental Fuel System@ 6.85 mpg.
Second Test Run–45 miles w/5.129 gallons consumed @ 8.77 mpg. System on!
Third Test Run –45 miles w/ 4.4423 gallons consumed @ 10.13 mpg. System on!
2011 International 15 liter Cummins ISX400
Base Test Run–45 miles absent Supplemental Fuel System @ 7.19 mpg.
First Test Run –45 miles w/3.54 gallons consumed @ 12.64 mpg. System on!
Second Test Run –45 miles w/5.356 gallons consumed @ 8.4 mpg. System on!
Third Test Run –45 miles w/4.4 gallons consumed @ 10.22 mpg. System on!
All test runs were based on 60 mph with the cruise control, routes level and identical.
Test verification by the following:
David Johnson, Mike Feemster, Charlton Coats, Dan Johnston, Logan Hughes, Harold Zeller, Ron
Hughes, Louis Moret (Sensor’s Inc.) and Paul Clark (Sensor’s Inc.).
In case you're not familiar with Sensors Inc.
Sensors, Inc. was founded in 1969, and has evolved to become the leader in developing innovative gas analysis technology, primarily for use in the transportation industry. The company has decades of experience and expertise in the design and manufacture of measurement systems that are widely distributed throughout the U.S., Europe and Asia. Sensors, Inc. also provides in-field emissions and fuel-economy testing services covering a wide range of applications including on- and off-road vehicles and equipment, and marine, mining, and power generation systems using internal combustion engines. In 1999, Sensors Inc. acquired Sensors Devices in Germany, ensuring a presence in Europe and expanding its product base to include analyzers for environmental applications. The company's emissions measurement solutions are used by government regulatory agencies and universities, as well as engine and vehicle manufacturers in the U.S., Europe and Asia, for the measurement of CO, CO2, NO, NO2, THC, NMHC, CH4, NH3, O2 and Particulate Mass.
Don't you just love the fact Sensors Inc. is recognized Worldwide.
Gasgoo.com is another good site to keep up with the latest happenings for Dongfeng Motors and other Chinese car Mfg's and their joint ventures. IMO
Why yes I do Carn. I also hear Tick Toc, Tick Tock, Tick Tick !!!
Nik, I believe Howard prefers to be called Harold. LOL
I realize this is just speculation on my part, but with the recent focus shifting back to Dongfeng Motors, there is one thing that keeps nawing at my mind. The glaring lack of mention in regards to the gasoline engine with AHS. I'm sure there must be a very good reason it was left out. The logical reason to me would be an exclusive deal working with a major auto manufacturer. Time will tell. Food for thought.
The Wildcat they perfected was for the 1.6 liter, but with all the modifications that have taken place since, I believe it would be a perfect engine fit for either 1.4 or 1.6 new DS3 coming out in August. China sure could use a break on emissions. They then might stop all the restrictions on number of new tags allowed each year. IMO
Great looking site Shrew. Can't wait for all the blanks to start filling in, especially " government contracts "
How important is EPA certification ? From post# 32138. Seems like yesterday.
Hoss = One Step Ahead IMO
How big will the Hoss ATV marketshare be in the coming year ? I can only look at their chinese competition to determine their chances and what portion of the market share might be available. I'm not sure how many investors are aware of what occured this summer, so I'll share this Tidbit with you.
EPA halts imports of Chinese ATVs, off-road motorcyclesFour Chinese ATV and motorcycle manufacturers lost permission to import. The EPA found their certificates of compliance with air-quality standards had false or incomplete data.
By Mark Clayton, Staff writer / July 1, 2010
Chinese off-road cycle and all-terrain vehicle manufacturers hit a big pothole Wednesday as the Environmental Protection Agency withdrew permission to import and sell up to 200,000 such vehicles because they may pollute more than had been claimed.
After a lengthy investigation, the agency said it had found that certifications of compliance with US air-quality rules submitted in 2006 and 2007 actually "contained false or incomplete information" about pollution levels from the vehicles.
It was the first time the agency has ever voided certificates that had already been issued. The certificates had been issued to the US subsidiaries of four of China’s largest ATV manufacturers: Hensim USA (City of Industry, Calif.); Loncin USA (Hayward, Calif.); Peace Industry Group (Norcross, Ga.); and Seaseng (Pomona, Calif.).
The certificates were issued, based on applications compiled by MotorScience Enterprise, a consultant to the companies, the agency said in a statement. The EPA also said it believes "MotorScience Enterprise intentionally submitted false or incomplete emissions information."
EPA said it is considering enforcement action that "could lead to significant financial penalties against the businesses that manufactured or imported these types of recreational vehicles."
While the move affects manufacturers and retailers, it does not affect consumers who have already purchased the models involved, the agency said.
"A consumer who owns a model that was covered by these voided certificates is not responsible for these companies’ wrongdoing and can continue to use the vehicle," Cathy Milbourn, an EPA spokeswoman, said in an e-mail.
The EPA, she said, is considering enforcement action under the Clean Air Act, "which could lead to significant financial penalties against the businesses that manufactured or imported these types of recreational vehicles."
Since the manufacturers did not properly test the emissions from their product, the EPA said in its statement, it could not assess whether the vehicles met US emission standards or not. Recreational vehicles can emit substantially more volatile organic compounds, nitrogen oxides, and other pollutants than permitted under EPA standards unless they have proper controls, the agency noted.
Riders seemed ready to take the bump in their stride.
"Certainly our members are always looking for a wide variety of products," said Peter terHorst, a spokesperson for the American Motorcyclist Association and All Terrain Vehicle Association. "But as an association, we feel there has to be a minimum standard for performance when it comes to emissions standards."
"Build it (monetary system ) and they will come "
Just spent all morning calling my creditors due to a major on-line banking glitch by HSBC, when they did a changeover to First Niagara and Key Bank. Come on ICOA !!
More and more eyes on HLNT.
From the Equities.com website yesterday:
Partner identified to install hydrogen engine systemsPenton Business Media
Velociti will provide a network of installation and post-installation services for the Hy-Impact hydrogen fuel systems. Alternative Hydrogen Solutions (AHS), providers of the Hy-Impact line of hydrogen systems, will work with Velociti through a strategic partnership to make the systems available for engines of all sizes on for-hire and private fleets, commercial marine fleets, oil services machinery, agricultural machinery, locomotives, and municipal vehicles.
“We understand that when a vehicle isn’t moving it is likely someone is not making money,” said Bill Cunetta, president of AHS. “Making sure our Hy-Impact products are professionally installed in a swift and organized fashion is very important, especially to our large fleet operators. Velociti is the obvious choice to meet our expectations.”
The Hy-Impact line was designed and manufactured by Highline Technical Innovations. The product line uses hydrogen as a catalyst to more effectively burn fuel, AHS said, resulting in a 9-23% improvement in fuel economy and lowered emissions.
In the system, hydrogen is separated from water via the process of electrolysis allowing a precise amount of hydrogen gas to be introduced into the engine’s combustion chamber, creating a significantly more efficient fuel burn, the company explained.
“The use of hydrogen systems to improve fuel economy in combustion engines has been on our radar for quite some time,” said Deryk Powell, COO of Velociti. “But frankly, until now, we’ve not felt a viable solution was available in the market. After many months of studying the engineering, manufacturing and design for AHS’s Hy-Impact product, we feel confident AHS offers enterprise-level users the solution they’ve been waiting for. The market potential for AHS is massive in size and we are pleased they understand the importance of professional deployment and trust Velociti to get the job done.”
Up, Up, and Away we go !!!!!!!!!!!!
Sure would like you to one day back up your opinions with some solid DD. My reply to your previous posts is this:
Monday, 16 July 2012
ICOA, Inc. (OTCPK: ICOA) is providing this update to Shareholders regarding the Company's share structure and plans regarding restructure of its capitalization.
The Board has determined that it would be in the Company's best interest to reduce the authorized shares from 10 billion to 7.5 billion. Management believes that this provides sufficient shares to accomplish its goals in the foreseeable future.
In connection with the previously announced share reduction of the "ICOA Creditors Trust", the Trustee has returned 2 billion (2,000,000,000) shares to the Company for cancellation.
With the current restructuring, ICOA does not anticipate the need for a reverse stock split in the foreseeable future. While market conditions are always in flux, this is not part of our growth and restructuring plan at this time.
About ICOA
ICOA, Inc. (OTCPK: ICOA) is a national provider of wireless and wired broadband Internet networks in high-traffic public locations. ICOA provides design, installation, operation, maintenance and management of WI-FI hot-spot and hot-zone Internet access. Based in Warwick, Rhode Island, ICOA owns or operates broadband access installations in high-traffic locations across 40 states, located in airports, quick-service restaurants, hotels and motels, travel plazas, marinas etc. ICOA networks are compatible with widely-used 802.11x technology and with virtually all Internet service providers. Further information is at www.icoacorp.com.
This press release includes forward-looking statements related to theglobe.com, inc. that involve risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, risks and uncertainties relating to integration of newly acquired businesses and assets, product delivery, product launch dates, risks relating to the Internet, development and protection of technology, the availability of financing or other capital to fund its plans and operations, the management of growth, market acceptance of our products, our ability to compete successfully against established competitors with greater resources, the uncertainty of future governmental regulation (particularly as it pertains to the Internet), pending litigation and other risks. These forward-looking statements are made in reliance on the "Safe Harbor"' provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. For further information about these and other factors that could affect ICOA's future results and business plans, please see the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including in particular our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2005, and our Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2006 and our subsequent filings found on OTC Markets website bringing the Company current in its public reporting responsibilities as a OTC Pink Sheet Company through March 2012. Copies of these filings are available online at http://www.sec.gov and http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/ICOA/company-info. Prospective investors are cautioned that forward-looking statements are not guarantees of performance. Actual results may differ materially and adversely from management expectations.
Keep searching Bigfoot in mouth, you may actually find a scam someday. Good Luck, I know you'll need it.
This may be a bit redundant, but thought it was well written about current activities.
Joint Venture Gets Serious About Branding (PINK:HLNT)
Fuel Solution Provider will take Hydrogen Technology to the Next Level…
By Dennis Askew Jun 25, 2012 11:49:11 AM PDT | No Comment(s) -
Well hats off to the management at Highline Technical Innovations. Inc. (PINK:HLNT) for thinking in a “Growth Mode” and then setting about the business of actually growing. Opening up a market isn’t easy.
But HLNT found a path…
Enter a joint venture with Alternative Hydrogen Systems Group Sales & Marketing LLC and then bring on a PR firm to give the whole thing a digital media push.
Highline is comprised of two subsidiaries, Highline Hydrogen Hybrid and Hoss Motorsports.
Highline Hydrogen Hybrids makes performance fuel systems that focus on reducing harmful emission levels to meet and exceed EPA quotas.
Hoss Motor Sports is focused on the production of off-road vehicles that are built to withstand the punishment of every day commercial use and are customized to meet the needs of special interest groups.
The Highline Hydrogen Wildcat Hydrogen Supplemental Fuel System increases fuel efficiency in internal combustion engines, both diesel and gas, in applications such as: cars, boats, tractor-trailer rigs, agriculture and industrial equipment.
Late last year HLNT announced that it had submitted its application to the EPA to verify the Wildcat Hydrogen Supplemental Fuel System seeking inclusion on the approved verified technologies list under the National Clean Diesel Campaign (NCDC).
Coming into the Alternative Hydrogen Solutions family will give HLNT some sales clout and bringing on LaunchIt as the overall PR firm is a smart move. LaunchIt is lead by Susan Fall, a transportation industry veteran. The joint venture was formed to grant exclusive selling rights for the Highline’s fuel emission control devices.
Charlton Coats, CEO of Alternative Hydrogen Solutions said, “The key to our success is that we effectively control the release of the hydrogen. Different engines require different levels of hydrogen in order to maximize the fuel efficiency of each. Producing hydrogen is the easy part, it is how we control and utilize the hydrogen that separates our HY-Impact line of products from the products of other companies that attempt to use hydrogen in some form.”
I think HLNT will fit right in with its new family.
Nice meaty post. I liked it alot !! THANKS
I believe Dorothy said it best: " Toto, we're not just in Kansas anymore " ( I know, I know, I threw in the just, but I just can't get that "GLOBAL" out of my mind ) Better go take my nap. LOL
Z, I believe those days will be a thing of the past in the very near future. Many will be chasing this train. IMO
Food for thought:
Werner Enterprises, Inc. was founded in 1956 and is a premier transportation and logistics company, with coverage throughout North America, Asia, Europe, South America, Africa and Australia. Werner maintains its global headquarters in Omaha, Nebraska and maintains offices in the United States, Canada, Mexico, China and Australia. Werner is among the five largest truckload carriers in the United States,with a diversified portfolio of transportation services that includes dedicated, medium-to-long-haul,regional and local van capacity, expedited,temperature-controlled and flatbed service....
Werner is a major client of Velociti. Do you think this might have been a consideration in choosing them to represent AHS ?
I just love that word "GLOBAL"
Lots of fence sitters out there just waiting for that big fat PR. All I have to say is "No Guts - No Glory " You'll be paying much much more by waiting for that "Sure Thing" IMO
My word(s) of the day: ROI ( Return on Investment )
"The use of hydrogen systems to improve fuel economy in combustion engines has been on our radar for quite some time," said Deryk Powell, COO of Velociti. "But frankly, until now, we've not felt a viable solution was available in the market. After many months of studying the engineering, manufacturing and design for AHS's Hy-Impact product, we feel confident AHS offers
enterprise-level users the solution they've been waiting for. The market potential for AHS is massive in size and we are pleased they understand the importance of professional deployment and trust Velociti to get the job done."
(From Velociti's web site )
It may seem a relatively simple task to install a technology product in a truck or trailer. After all, many fleets have shops and technicians with the core mechanical skills to do this work. However, the ability to install a system is only one of the factors that must be considered when planning a deployment.Transportation providers typically staff technicians at levels appropriate to maintain and operate the fleet and therefore, understandably do not have the extra bandwidth required to focus on an important project. Experience with technology products is also an important concern. Investments in technology products are made with the intent to achieve a return on the investment.Velociti not only understands this, but takes this into consideration in every aspect of planning and executing projects. Our goal is to deploy technology in a manner that maximizes the client’s ROI. Often times we accomplish this as a result of completing projects in a fraction of the time that it would take a fleet to do it with internal resources.We have proven the success of our approach as a result of installing more than 500,000 technology systems for hundreds of fleets. We have unmatched capability to help technology providers and fleets implement technology effectively, allowing the target ROI to be achieved and often times exceeded as a result.
I know we talk alot about the North American and China connection, but let's not forget about the importance this product could have on the current European market. They certainly could use a break about now.
PSI certifies Velociti for European installations
Jul 1, 2007 12:00 PM
Velociti Inc, a specialist in global installation and service of wireless technology systems, has been certified by Pressure Systems International for PSI tire inflation system installations in Europe. An MTIS by PSI mobile installer in the North America for six years, Kansas City-based Velociti was founded in 1989. The firm was created to provide skilled mobile installation and service technicians to perform all aspects of technology deployments to market sectors including transportation, retail, and warehousing.
Velociti = Global
GM all. I see someone left the back door open and our favorite critter slipped in last night. As I said yesterday, should you believe comments about HTI from an obvious misguided soul, or from 3 professional organizations and numerous third party endorsee's. Hmmm, tough choice. LMFAO