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What's the difference between mojo, an admitted trader, and those on this board that manipulate the stock and work diligently to keep the pps so low that many investors are forced to sell?
I believe he wants KBLB to succeed, not for any team rah rah but to make profits on whatever shares he owns. He's taken advantage of the work of traders on this board to make profits cause he realizes there's little to do about this manipulation until KBLB changes it's business policies, most notably it's IR.
That's trading, and that I can respect even though it's not my thing. He'll call us naive for not doing so also, but I don't think he'd ever insult us by refusing to recognize what the publicity pounding on KBLB from various media sources could mean to both the pps and the overall success of KBLB.
Really? The board is interested in my moral compass? I really doubt that, but I'm sure you'd like to make this an issue, anything to keep investors from realizing what total disrespect you have for their intelligence.
Avoid what topic, when I sell? I'll sell when either I'm forced to by any number of reasons or when the pps has risen to a point where I feel it has reached it's full potential. At that point the traders would have been neutralized for the most part by new investment, so whoever chooses to buy my shares would do so with the confidence the stock will be fairly priced without the manipulation of traders.
I agree, you would love a pr. That's proven to be a gold mine for traders of KBLB, for each pr has spiked the pps and allowed you to do what you do. But the kind of publicity that would put your trading out of business is something that you have argued against for months. Quit insulting investors intelligence, cause I know that's who you're targeting with these ridiculous posts.
Todays recap:
Great pr on spider silk broadcast nationally on FOX news, well over a million shares traded, pps down almost a .01.
Huh?
Fox News, the national network, I believe it was Happening Now but don't quote me on that.
Textile World could feature KBLB every month for a year and it wouldn't reach 1% of the potential investors that would have been reached in today's FOX interview with MIT prof if only he'd said
"KBLB"
What a waste.
Yes, I did get that impression, but no, it's not possible. But I seriously doubt he'd even consider mentioning KBLB when there's been so little response from them since the peer review.
He'd never give credit or acknowledge something that might be untrue, until KBLB steps up this is just an example of what we're wasting.
You really don't want to know what I think of this post, I'll just say again it's your thing so how you justify your trading is your deal not mine.
But why would KBLB ADMITTING to having Monster silk, and the science to produce more specific spider silks, be a "temporary surge based on media coverage alone"? Why would it drop if investors saw enough potential in KBLB to invest in the first place? I'm sure traders would want it to drop, and probably bash it in an attempt to make it happen. But not investors.
I respect your trading strategy but not your reasoning.
Well, I guess the FOX interview on spider silk is buried in posts, good job traders.
I've made my views known on the trading of KBLB stock, do what you want but realize the effects you're having on people's lives.
So, if I understand correctly, it would be bad for all investors to see the pps skyrocket on publicity that KBLB is the ONE company that has not only produced Monster silk, but continues to evolve the science to that hopefully will include innumerable commercial uses.
Then, investors would realize something, sell and the pps would plummet and fatcat would skate with all the profits. Huh, makes no sense but I like the part of me making lots of money on a huge jump in the pps.
Are you kidding?
I respect your view on trading, es, that's your thing. But you are arguing against publicity by consistently supporting the failure of Kim to take advantage of the recent media blitz concerning spider silk. This is trading strategy, so don't add insult to injury by buying someones stock why you tell them it's not what you want to do.
I don't need a lesson on being a trader, that's your position and I really don't care how you attempt to justify it to yourself or others.
This stock is being manipulated by traders, pure and simple but that's the way the market works.
But that's not what I'm posting about and you know it. What I'm proposing can only increase tenfold the name recognition of KBLB, and should bring massive new investment that would end the stranglehold traders have on this stock.
Spoken like a true trader. You don't like or understand why I simply want the pps raised for the sake of all investors, there's nothing I can do about that.
You like publicity, you want publicity, but you continue to argue against publicity. I would assume that anyone wanting success for KBLB investors would realize the TIME IS NOW!!!
Happy for your success in accumulating more shares, sad for those that had to sell so you could do so.
I sure you were glad I let it go, that allowed traders to continue to manipulate the stock without anyone daring to ask for any kind of action that would eliminate their profit taking.
Glad you found it amusing, though, cause there's more to follow.
One thing Kim can't do is control the media, what he can do is deny them information and/or access to KBLB products.
Why would he do so, that's what I've been asking for a month.
And that was the same argument used against me with the pc at Notre Dame situation. I quit posting for it when Kim announced the cc, that's done alot of good.
You have a ignore button, use it.
Forget about the cc. The interest media is showing demands more than just a conference call, line up a pc and trot out Monster silk with a presentation of the evolving science and what it hopefully will bring to developing future spider silks.
Or won't Notre Dame let them, are you kidding?
I guess my moral compass points in a different direction than yours, because I want all investors that put their savings into KBLB to be given a fair chance to realize the profits.
So do all the investors that for one reason or another have to sell to the traders, not for a pps of .20 or .30 but for .08. I'm sure they appreciate the trading skills of those that are so evident with this stock, they are the same ones that are so quiet now.
This is really getting ridiculous, all this media attention and the one company that has produced Monster silk and continues to evolve the science to produce even better spider silk is trading at .085, and not even mentioned by the media.
Brilliant strategy.
See the FOX interview, Roman? Imagine what the pps would be if KBLB was mentioned just ONCE.
"Silence is golden" DOES NOT apply here.
The KBLB dam is going to burst, or the media is going to blow it up cause the public demands it.
Guess we're going to find out what's behind the dam regardless of the effort to hide it.
Bring it on!
Just watched a interview with MIT professor on FOX national news regarding the incredible properties of spider silk.
No mention of KBLB, or of anyone being able to produce anything close to spider silk.
Ben must cringe when seeing this, praying that the prof doesn't say the words "Kraig Labs."
Kind of quiet, cheerleaders must be waiting for the bottom before starting the pump again. Maybe waiting for their latest gains to clear, certainly don't want the pps to go up until they take advantage of the "buying opportunities."
New investment and capital would go a long ways in preventing this, but hey, who wants a rising pps when it would cost NOTHING to achieve and ZERO dilution of stock.
Yeah, I know you did. I'm just getting tired of seeing the same posts, from the same people, with the same results.
Bottom line, I guess investors just don't care what the pps of KBLB is, nor do they want to take advantage of the opportunities to increase investment that the keen media interest in spider silk has served us on a silver platter.
Why, I have no idea. This goes against EVERY marketing concept I've ever heard of, unless:
1) KBLB has nothing. Monster silk is not commercially feasible, and the science stops there.
2) Huge news coming, either a deal with Dow, etc. or Ben and the Bungee kicks off a pr blitz.
No way do I think 1 is true, because it would require a cover-up by persons with little to gain and a whole lot to lose.
Wait, there is a number 3, that being sheer incompetence by KBLB's CEO, IR, and the advisory board. Hard to imagine, but so is the pps.
Are you surprised? I wonder if anyone foresaw this happening and dumped shares at the peak, they'll buy back at .08 and on and on and on..
Good for them, bad for the rest of us.
"we have no market exposure yet."
Boy, I never saw this coming. I wonder if there are any moves KBLB's IR dept can come up with to increase that exposure? Anybody got any ideas?
Well, bull, if no one had to sell for a loss then maybe I wouldn't be so persistent in my posts, but I think you're mistaken if you think there aren't many investors that have had to do exactly that.
But that's the game we're playing, that's the hand we're dealt. Problem is we don't know all the rules of the road, and the driver keeps telling us the rules will be revealed at the end of the trip.
Let's tell the public what we have on board, everyone wants to see the Bikini team and they'll pay to do it.
Are you telling me that you don't think the pps is being manipulated, kept low so traders can accumulate shares until a spike where those shares are dumped, etc etc.
Are you telling me that our IR has, in any way, taken advantage of the unique marketing opportunities that spider silk and the media interest in KBLB provides?
Where is the conspiracy theory? These are just facts.
This is all you have to complain about, this is the big part of my problem?
Have we had Monster silk for a year, do we have any deals? I never said anything about selling it by the ton, didn't even know you needed a ton of it to make a deal. I assumed, and still do, that Kim had enough MS to present to a buyer for testing for a year now, if I'm wrong so be it, doesn't change anything and doesn't address what point I was making.
Well, dad, when his post is described as brilliant by Red, and Red is in the camp of those that continually argue against my point of what informing the public could mean to KBLB, then I'll respond with my point of view.
Conspiracy theory? Would that be traders on the board satisfied with the pps, or would it be me being critical of Ben and his IR work. Hey, if there's a conspiracy, I must of missed it so why don't you let me know.
Now I don't expect Kim to keep "people like me" in the loop, but I do expect a modicum of information especially when opportunities arise to attract investment that KBLB seems reluctant to pursue. You believe there's a good reason for that, well, what is it?
I can and will accept the reasons for the "silence" just as soon as I know what they are, you apparently accept them without a clue. All I've ever heard is it's for a good reason, well, I've been there and done that for a year now and the pps has taken a beating. So when the media finally starts beating the drums for spider silk and KBLB refuses to take advantage, then I feel
compelled to make my feelings known.
I REALLY hope there is a good reason, cause I'd hate to think what happens if there isn't.
LOL, good one Zinc, I'm sure you have plenty of support for that observation.
But what I gathered from your post was that Monster silk was pretty much limited to the textile industry, and since we've had it for a year with no deals, I must have wrongly assumed that it is not the answer to raising revenues.
I'd thought before your post that Monster silk was applicable to many different aspects of potential products, but you informed me that any hightech wouldn't be interested in it and since it was textile targeted, then lowtech products that might use spider silk would also be limited for revenue streams.
So, I apologize for the post, but not for the confusion because your answer didn't address whether Monster silk is impressive enough to introduce to the public thru the media, like Ben and the Bungee, nor if you knew if any companies were even interested.
Hey, Ben and the Bungee, maybe the answer to our revenue stream is a reality show.
Exactly right, manshoon, but IMO the dynamics of trading this stock has changed a bit. With the pps virtually unchanged since before the peer review was released, and the media interest since that time, KBLB stock is like a dam with alot of pressure building up behind it. Questions are when is it going to burst and what's going to be revealed behind it?
If Ben did jump off that bridge, Monster silk would be known worldwide, media would go crazy and so would the pps.
If they do nothing with the media, and the upcoming CC is a bust and interest in KBLB fades, it'll be like a pressure-relief valve and the pps will fall again to levels not seen in a long time.
If KBLB is interested at all in raising the pps in a manner that won't be just a pump and dump, the opportunity to act has to be taken advantage of now, either with highflying Ben or the CC.
Seems reasonable we should have a good idea of what's behind the dam, but personally I'm more confused than ever after Zinc's explanations of why Monster silk isn't the answer to revenues.
We could also outfit him with a helmet made of Monster silk, that way if he does hit the ground the NFL would sit up and take notice.
Come on Ben, this is your 15 secs. of fame waiting for you.
Must be that pesky public we don't care about. Maybe Ben slipped up and news of Monster silk is leaking out.
If something is happening, believe it that we will be the LAST to find out. I'm sure those with Kim's ear will tell us once they've got what they want, just make sure it's not your shares.
Well, either there's a market for Monster silk or not. Either it's a product with specs that would "wow" the media, thus the market, or not. One thing that's not in question is the failure of IR to publicize KBLB's spider silk. Why would any company fail to do so, much less a penny that faces massive dilution in operating costs if new investment can't be attracted?
I have to believe KBLB is more than just scientific hypothesis, or the all the positive statements made by Fraser and Kim since the peer review would be misleading and perhaps considered fraudulent. There's no way Notre Dame, much less the advisory board, would remain silent when they are certainly privy to the information Kim and Ben possess.
So why ignore the gift the media is poised to give KBLB, that being massive new capital investment? Many investors post that big news is coming, be patient, the cc will answer all the questions. Well, I hope so, but only HUGE news will suffice or the traders will simply pull the pps back down to where we are now.
But it has to be HUGE news, nothing else will excuse KBLB's failure to act on what can only be described as the chance of a lifetime for a penny stock.
But we do have a product, Monster silk. I've been trying to find out exactly what it is and what it can be used for in commercial products. I still don't know, according to Zinc I gather it's for silk shirts, etc. and nothing the hightech people want.
What can it be used for in the lowtech industries? Does anyone know? How can anyone know until we let the public in on it's specs and let them come up with uses we've never even considered.
All the arguments boil down to the same as with the pc at ND arguments, any publicity would be a pump and dump or we have to protect KBLB. The market has to be looking at the opportunity KBLB is wasting and assume exactly what JB posted, "No publicity will help if there is nothing to publicize."
Brilliant.
"Oh, that's right, our new strategy is that we don't care what the public thinks. Brilliant."
Well, as I think about it, when was this not our strategy? All the posters that argued against the pc at ND are all arguing against any kind of publicity now. They argue publicity is a bad thing for KBLB, now there's a unique approach to a penny stock trading at .08. Brilliant.
All those posts, all those theories, all those excuses, bottom line to investors is be happy that the pps is isn't lower than .08.
Pretty sad all that effort has to be made to present some kind of argument that justifies not taking advantage of what every penny stock dreams of, intense media and public interest.
We've waited for this chance to improve name recognition for over a year, and now it's here and free and ignored. I'm sure all those potential investors will dig thru the peer review, read all the articles that don't mention KBLB, and then put their investment capital into a penny stock that doesn't seem to have any compulsion to promote their product. Anyone say red flag.
Oh, that's right, our new strategy is that we don't care what the public thinks. Brilliant.