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eh, it's a team effort!
I just hit it at 5's for a few more
Well going to have to slap that ask if you want to get anymore right now.
Only 20% of the volume from yesterday, that isn't including the last two days, so what are you talking about major sell off?
I am still holding on, lets see what happens.
Well that would assume you have a stop loss order in. Then in theory if you did you wouldn't even own any of this stock!
Na, you will be ok, you could set a stop loss but I have feeling there will be some pull backs when people do some profit taking, so you could trigger it then, but I feel you could still make decent gains and then sell if you are worried of losing it.
you get what you pay for. Kinda like with this stock.
We should have had tv comercials with all the money racing has cost us, big name magazines, billboards....a good national marketing campaign would have paid off way more than this low level racing BS.
it is one thing to sponser a race car (still stupid at our startup level imo) but it's an entirely other thing to go out and buy entire teams, w/ 4 trucks at our level, especially when there is almost no other for of marketing used.
Here is hoping for a gap up this morning!
adkmoves,
I know I can personally say that after I dated a stripper in my past, I have been banned from ever going to a strip club again, I guess the GF fears I might start dating one again! hahahaha But, I see what you are saying. I guess my question is why is a Nascar team worse than him taking them to strip clubs? I think you would have just as many people screaming about that.
Answer me this, if the money spent was roughly equal, would you still have a problem with Nascar?
It just appears some people hate Nascar no matter what. I know it was something BW did in his past and if it is something that he has done before and knows some of the people/aspects of it, then I have no problem with it as long as the return is worth the money being spent on it. I would honestly rather have him do something he has done before so he halfway knows what he is doing in it, then taking some random thing and having Koma try and support it.
Diddi, welcome back! ;)
adkmoves,
First of all I know you aren't bashing, and these types of exchanges I have no problem going back and forth with. There is an understood respect each of us has for the other.
I really think at times people here blow the whole NASCAR thing out of proportion. I think of it as more of a way to help give distributors/store owners a way to meet up at the track and talk about deals. It is also a way to get the name out there some and go around the country and hit different cities and do some marketing campaigns. I think some here blow the numbers way out of proportion making it appear millions and millions of dollars are being spent on racing. Looking at those prices they are selling those trucks for, heck I could afford to buy a couple. Then they are tossing in a rookie driver who is probably driving for next to nothing so that he can get his name out there. I also think some of the sponsors are covering different things such as all gas used/tires/travel costs etc, and I don't think it is costing anywhere near what people are making it out to be. But, until we see numbers we don't know.
I like to think of it as more like a corporate person that takes someone out golfing every weekend. Yes it costs money, but if the deals they make are more than it is costing, it is worth it.
Wow, owned it for 7 months and first post here, well, welcome!
Eh, like I said, three ways they can go.
I have no insider information at all. You know what I know, actually you probably know more.
But that would depend on what your risk vs reward ratio is. As I can tell they didn't have a stop loss in place after they bought at .004, I think throwing some money at this to try and make some is one option, the second is selling and taking the loss, the third is to come back in a few years and see where it is.
They already went by bad advice by not putting a stop loss in place, but yet you feel telling people to average down now is bad advice too? Ok, so they should do what then?
And just so everyone knows, these are only my opinions, do what you want when you want, it's your money . . .
You know what Adkmoves, I will reply to you:
It has been a while since we have had an uptick, a few months, I will give you that. But on that same token I think BW finally realized that fluff PR's get you no where. And I think once we start getting firm numbers from the company we stand to be in position for a decent climb. I am not saying he is done making mistakes, but I hope he has learned from those he did make and doesn't let that crap happen again. I have been upset about a few things, and I think the culmination of them all is what brought us to where we are.
When was the last time you came here to read the posts, and everyone was halfway positive? I know there is bad things, but you are lucky to ever find a positive post here.
The reason I drink the product so much? I travel for work, and with all the time changes it helps to have a Koma at the hotel of an evening, have a cigar, and then fall asleep for the night. Works like a champ for me but in theory I doubt I would drink as much if I wasn't traveling all the time. The same as I used to drink Redbull back when I was a bouncer at a club, since I quit that I am lucky if I drink 1 every 2 months. But, while I was a bouncer, Redbull made a killing off me! To those that have bought in recently, Eh, they have three choices. Average down if they think it will pop, that way with only an uptick, they can sell everything, make a profit and move on, They can sell everything at .0001 if they are that fearful of a RS and run for the hills, or they can sit on their investment and see what happens. I choose the average down route as I do that with most every stock I but in and then it starts a downward trend.
I really do have a positive outlook on this company and think they have the pieces to make it big. I think it is in their hands, and I hope they learned from their previous mistakes and are able to do so, only time with tell.
A few questions for you ryan. When is the last time we had an uptick? With the market cap we have now (assuming 11 billion outstanding), how high could this possibly go anytime soon? As several others have already pointed out, with the product not taking off in over a year, is it possible the category is not as large as Weber/we thought? Product works, I have it in my fridge, yet I have only had 2 cans because I am almost never in a situation where I want to get sleepy (I guess it would be good if you're a lazy parent and want your kids to think they're getting caffeine and meanwhile they start falling asleep left and right).... Regardless of how hard management is working, there have been very limited results. What this tells me is not a lack of spirit, but rather a complete lack of understanding on how to run a business, no matter what industry. How is this going to change? Most importantly from my perspective, and hopefully for yours (as you are apparently a "long" on this stock), how are you going to be assured that even if this ever did become established, you would own the product. Right now it is not owned by you, but rather by Daisy Ramirez. I heard Weber's laughable excuse as to why (probably the single largest impact on my selling off of my position). I would suggest that you pressure Weber/management to transfer all ownership of the products to BBDA... Weber's excuse did not hold any legal water...
I have been in a couple. And you know what I did, I dropped a lot more money on the dip after the split, then waited for it bounce and got out, all in all, I made money, but it took me putting more money in to make it.
But with some of the buy in prices that some people bought in at, they stand more of a chance of getting struck by lightning then making it back. I mean I thought I remember seeing some people bought in at .004, and if they have never averaged down at all, then they are better off logging out of here and checking back in couple years to see what has happened. You should see the amount of buy's I have had, always averaging down. To make the pops that much better, and that if I have to bail, I am not out so much money.
I want to quote a certain part of this because I want to make sure everyone sees it:
People don't realize that NO one will stock this on a shelf hardly if they have never had a customer ask about it. We have more influence than people realize if we get out into our own local markets and shoot a few e-mails off and make a couple request inquiring about it. I have had MULTIPLE people ask me for the company's contact information after I inquired about it. That is how shelves get filled from a start up company. They don't just take a chance and start stocking it in hopes the customers will want it. But, maybe that is asking too much for people here to actually want to help their investments.
Ha, so because one company doesn't succeed that means no one else should? Interesting concept.
What do you mean it isn't easy to average down??? Those that bought in over .001 should have averaged down a long time ago and they could have gotten out when it was bouncing between 3's and 4's. There are people that I hear still haven't averaged down yet, and are all upset because of how much they have lost.
I am not being a spokesperson for anyone, just talking about PS Trading 101 here.
Year to date alone they are down 61.96%
Year to date BBDA is down 33.33%
And the one I am referring to is the second result on that Google search. So, what is your point?
And they have never heard of averaging down? Turns those big losses into little losses and then an uptick and they are back in the green, and can sell and move on.
I guess when I actually felt there was no forward progress being made. And, no I don't mean when people here don't think there is forward progress, I mean when I don't think there is any forward progress left.
People here are always confused by me and label me a "pumper". Well here is my thinking:
Everyone I have talked to that has had the product likes it. I have talked to everyone from customers, to store owners, to distributors. I know the winter was a hard time to get onto shelves. Yet, BBDA was moving forward with doing the counter coolers and working with distributors to get into smaller stores that didn't have the big contracts with the Coke/Pepsi's of the world. I think now that we are in the beginning of Spring/Summer, I would expect to see it showing up on more and more shelves. I talked to lots of people from the Piggly Wiggly chain, and they all seem excited to start stocking it once a distributor can get lined up for their areas. I am still awaiting results from the meeting in the NE and I have a feeling BW is taking everyone's advice and waiting till the ink dries before saying a word about it.
And as much as everyone hates Nascar, I think that having some sort of marketing that the distributors/stores can get involved in is very helpful. They always say there are more deals signed on the golf course than in a meeting room. I think this is a great avenue to work them. And as long as Dillon can keep improving and they can keep the cost down for running the races I see it as a viable marketing idea for the company. It is different, but if we showed up in a rap video like one of our competitors I would be the first to start dumping shares because I wouldn't want to be associated with that.
People don't realize that NO one will stock this on a shelf hardly if they have never had a customer ask about it. We have more influence than people realize if we get out into our own local markets and shoot a few e-mails off and make a couple request inquiring about it. I have had MULTIPLE people ask me for the company's contact information after I inquired about it. That is how shelves get filled from a start up company. They don't just take a chance and start stocking it in hopes the customers will want it. But, maybe that is asking too much for people here to actually want to help their investments.
So, all in all I do see the company moving forward. I see lots of potential here. And I know stocks go down, I am one of those kind of peoples that buys on the way down so that all it takes is a tiny bump and I am back in the green. Some people here bought in back in the Carnes days and are mad because of where it is now. But, they have a real company with a real product that is trying to make it work. All Carnes did was lie and pump the heck out of it, which left nothing but bag holders who are now all upset about the bags they are holding. Well average down, kick yourself, learn from your mistakes, and let's make some money!
I didn't say you . . but I know there are some that are mad because of that.
.004?????? Someone messed up! haha
I don't think they are "failing" to launch. I think products like this take time. I honestly feel most people are peeved because this isn't bouncing all day long and they can't flip it like crazy and it is making them mad. I really don't care about flipping it short term and I think that is part of why my panties aren't in a bunch like some people's.
I am not going to say if tomorrow it goes to .0008 I won't sell and then buy back in on the pull back, because I probably would, but some people are mad that this isn't bouncing throughout the day, and I could really care less if it did. I think there will be a return on investment here and is why I have kept my money backing this company.
Hummm, for comparison sake, lets look at the what some refer to as our biggest competitor, they seem to be down over 80% from the last time I looked at them. Currently I am between .0002 and .0003 for my buy in price with averaging down. I am ok with that. These are PinkSheets. They are all gambles, but there is the chance for a huge reward.
Any little bit helps. I keep pinging all the stores I shop at locally and have put them in touch with the company. Last I heard they are trying to lock in a distributor for my area.
Keep us posted with your results please!
You really should average down so when it does you can make some money, sell and move on . . . . just my thoughts
It doesn't matter if it is profitable, read the TOU, coming to EYII to talk about IV** is spam, and should be deleted by the mods.
Spam
Need to knock that last one off .0008
9's building up
The bid whacking is getting out of hand . . . .
But who went out of business the affiliate program or EYI? . . .
Well I was always of the opinion that dilution = dilution and had nothing really to do with volume. I mean it is going to cause volume but I couldn't justify making the statement that if there is volume there has to be dilution, and a call to the TA verifies that most times.
I mean I am still holding, was just looking for their justification. I think this has the possibility to run, just need about 500 million in a day to break out of the 2's, then it has a chance.
Why?