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Yep cat the ale was cool and
the lesson nasty, but this can't influence us in what we are forced to have.
These con men are smarter than a wagon load of monkeys with mange, and the ones who try to influence what we think are just about as bad. I'll be the first to admit I was taken big time BUT that doesn't change the fact that I am nobodies fool. All it says to me is these ba...rds are a low life crowd that have no place in my life or morals. Fact they have no place in the business world or at large in the USA, Period!
Hell remember the cem we needed all our wits to play that and we did Ok. Why? Because we weren't dealing with scum below the surface.
Anyways, as Tex says we need a point man in Jax. We need to know in definitive fashion what our prospects are for sure. This defense role we find ourselves in has to change. If it is a waiting game, then we have waited enough.
Does anybody really know what has been happening with the SEC lately concerning scams? My wife just told me one of the ones they nailed in Florida just today. A big one and looks very good om the surface. Go figure!!
B.
Yep you got mine
even contacted me awhile ago, so has fink and a few others.
No where near 300 tho.
B.
Actually slightly over 300
to be exact. Funny I thought of that on the spur of the moment to bite my tongue and to be nice. Was reading a book recently on families in history. Whether they were blood, military, society or just associations, they were and are very powerful.
Mine is over 300 and goes back over 7 centuries beyond Robert the Bruce of Scotland, to painted warriors who hated the English.
I guess we got over that now tho. Except for the warrior part.
B.
This is a "family" problem
and any argument, suggestion, and so forth
should be discussed between those in the "family" who are privy to the "family" affairs. Those who are not vested in this "family", I am sure can find other topics and stocks they can discuss.
B.
Tex, Gary, you are spot on
I too am all pissed to hell and back. There is a consideration here. The reps have undertaken to represent and in theory and indeed practice they have an obligation to do so. This is not a game. We could have sold weeks ago at a much higher price than we could ever get now.
With that in mind, I have contacted them by Email and laid out what we want and what we want to hear. They deserve to know how we feel, though by the look of things, there aren't many of us left, AND they deserve to know what we expect . Or at this stage hope!
I have a lot more to be pissed about, which I would not discuss, but do give me pause.
At this stage and so far, I do want to state PUBLICLY. I STILL SUPPORT JEFF AND JAMES WITH ALL THINGS DISCUSSED. As I have said oft before, "No more BS, time to finalize".
B.
Yup this date thing is
critical. But so is knowing certainty of Tender/trade/swap.
Justified security for "common" holders is a must. Heck I have the patience of Job, if I know for certain the reason for the wait. If a NDA requires signing to get that reason and certainty,
then let's at it. No more delays. A viable business plan for the transition should be laid out and those involved, US, should be privy to that.
Anyone who wants to quote me to the group on that or anything else I say, if you think it sensible and valid, go right ahead.
B.
Hey Tex yeah I know. Just
kiddin. Tell that to my wife PLEEEEEESSS. luv ya man, know why? Cos you mean what you say and you say what you mean. Not many man enough to do that around here. I think we should get together a group of our own an go after the bi "O" next year. I am pretty sure cat can cast a good net!
See what's been going on with the SEC and the pinks lately! going after the scammers. This time I think it's a lot more serious. My Wife was giving me the lowdown on the upper markets, she being involved with MRAC and all (Market regulation "MR"). Seems after the flash crash of last year and what's going on with all the mergers and the economy, Regulators are getting serious. Even to the point of addressing private investors. I went to one of her presentations last week for private investors and guess what? Me and 5 others were the only private investors in a crowd of about a hundred. The rest, exchange officials, mm's and super fish!
B.
I say nothing, because anything
I know is for me and me alone until I think prudent and in the best interests of all to divulge, but I think a lot.
First: Tex why would you put that email on the board for all? it was directed to those that have contacted to be included and who have valid "Common" stock in QASP, and them only. I know it has no significance but even so.
Second: Now the email is published, I think it is grossly inadequate in context, says absolutely nothing, and doesn't touch on anything of any consequence. Which is probably just as well because it's in PUBLIC DOMAIN. Yippeee, canouse knows we are without claws and all anyone can do is Yap, yap, yap. I am big time not amused.
Third: And last considering the shareholders have representatives working for them producing a NDA and so on and on; How come none of them is able to find out what happened this afternoon and enlighten those in the group of what events unfolded? Would that not be one of the priorities, before everyone has to read it in the news section of some rag tomorrow? wouldn't that be good representative behavior?
Now I am not being awkward, or unrealistic or unreasonable, just logical.
Never mind being all hung up on the wonderful world of legalese, BUSINESS 101 is sadly neglected and, it would seem, just not practiced, or indeed even understood.
B.
Nice, I put my bet on Pit Bull Jeff. eom.
Just a quick note before
this afternoon and too much speculation:
The PR from Canouse was to be expected, but he is only
half smart. For full effect it should have been yesterday with a follow up today giving some sort of specifics he could pull out of the sky. Chances are it won't have much effect.
Jeff on the other hand should, or no doubt has an answer, simpler but more realistic counter "plan" to offer, for balance.
Judge gave both parties a period to agree, of which all Judges are so disposed, they do not like the responsibility. Agreement is of course is unlikely, so now, with some smart talking and some luck he will possibly make some sort of decision. Even if it is only interim, it will give Jeff, and of course James, the chance to make a definitive decision regarding what we are waiting for.
B.
For sure, can't argue with that.
Got to admit the stinky-pinker is getting to me.
B.
PP That is something else.
A thing that gets me with some of the guys investigating, is their preoccupation with communism. I think Commies are passe nowadays. Been pretty much proved it doesn't really work that well.
What is mega problematic is the religion aspect and make no mistake The "O" is on the Muslim side. Those who appease and don't keep wide awake are going to wake up to a shock one of these days.
Make no mistake I am not radical, actually very understanding, BUT I have first hand experience of Africa from Mid East to Southern Africa. Understand the religion aspect more than most, but watch out! I used to speak a few African languages fluently, Shona, Manica, Xhosa and Che lapa lapa. Kinda rusty now tho.
B.
Nope you are not wrong Tex,
but they did mention taking a share count as of the first week in may. Now this is exactly what I was talking about. If we are confused and unsure, what does that do? I'll tell you what:
It gives plenty of ammo for the trouble makers, sh 1 t stirrers, and combined dark side to stuff everything up with their half lies, innuendos and BS. The methods to make inroads and gain shareholders attention and confidence is amazing, to say the least.
Jeff will be doing his thing tomorrow and I wish him luck. I have offered any help needed if possible, and this is not the first time. So far none has been required, I hope that is the right decision.
Tomorrow should prove interesting and hopefully most, if not all the the chaff will be removed. Very much depends on the judge. AND how forceful Team Jeff will be. Make no mistake Canouse is an experienced litigator, Virgil is a f...king hard case and their team are a bunch of seasoned scam artists.
I will say that I have contacted the judge directly in my own fashion, as a concerned shareholder with a lot more than normal shareholder experience.
B.
You Porgie and the rest of you
that claim such knowledgeable DD and constantly
use the dubious stuff that you have, never fail to surprise me as
to how little y'all really know.
If any of you attended a CC, or read any of the updates and digested them you would know:
Proposed Cut off date was when the merger with NHSH took place.
MAY 12. The date which seems to be accepted is the 18th May. This is the 3 day settlement date after the 12th May. Because there was a week end in between.
What the real cut off date now is, not known, unless it still stands as settlement date May 18.
B.
Pack an excellent and
intelligent series of 5 posts. Unfortunately
not many truly understand the depth of much of what you say
B.
Well I know for a fact
he got one, signed sealed and delivered, see I do things in my fashion and my way and I ain't a nice guy when messed with. Jeff deserves all the help he can get.
First to admit I was taken by the D and friends, put that down to being trusting and ignorant of how they operate. Never knew a public co could possibly be run the like and get away with it. Been in the business for 30 years, but never down this low. Thing is, Wife and I bought in on plane kick and left it ride without following up, till Just before Jeff jumped in. BAD mistake!!
On the rest there sure are a lot of unanswered questions and hope they get answered soon. Some pretty ansi eyes tracking this now. One thing to take over as rep. another to hide the action from those rep'd. All for the dedication and enterprise, just want to see the justification.
B.
Here is something for the Cat house
and cat. THE MASTERS:
Yep there's a play in the
old fashion way. Updated and all business even the
page is well monitored and civil, reminds me of the old Cem days.
Of course my wife keeps the rubbing in game going.
That one's not for the garbage gang, don't even mention that name in association, makes me bring up.
Maybe the garbage gang should recruit Edwards and help him out in his time of need, like they say " birds of a feather".
B.
Yeah, you are right pack
Though taking the 5th after a Dep. may create quite a buzz.
I am not sure whether he has actually completed his Dep, or not,
but either way it would look very incriminating.
I would be very interested to read it if and when available. A thing Team Jeff will have to watch for very carefully and have the correct questions to ask, is to bear in mind Bradley and friends are consummate liars and, well, you know what I mean.
As for the charges and Fed involvement, something is going to pop there soon.
Tuesday will be very interesting and far more productive than the 26th. I do know the action on the stand could be priceless, so hang on to your Visa card Lol. If all hangs as we hope it will and I recon should.
B.
Tex , again as for your other queries,
and my wide shoulders. I said in a previous post and you implied it too.
Time to stop pussyfooting around and time to take back what belongs to the LEGAL common shareholders.
Those that crawl around the Q board and the N board are destroying any possibility of constructive discussion and they also periodically
filter on to this board. This is a friendly board and generally a joy to visit, keep it the way Cat started it and STOP pussyfooting around BS.
I said I don't give a sh 1 t of how popular I am and I don't. I will not appease those who throw bull around and generally confuse everybody and undermine any confidence that has been built up in Jeff and James and their objectives. These two guys have stepped out on a limb and I won't sit back and watch that limb get fractured.
I don't have all day to look at the board or to post, simply because I have my own business and affairs to run, but when I do I call pathetic! Just like how the Goddam country is being run.
B
Tex, as to your main question.
and why?
"One further thing : there is a difference between postponement and Continence"
"B."
Because of my statement below the two words of reference are and have been misconstrued. Simple what happened on the 26th? Was it postponed?
No it was not, it happened.
My post of May 23.
The 26th has NOT been postponed
and won't be. Why should it? There is nothing to indicate a postponement, nor any indication of any reason that there should be. in fact to the contrary.
Regarding waiting; Ask yourself this: 3 days from now an event will occur that will have a material effect on the situation.
Do I wait and blow this garbage to hell and back? OR Do I jump in and proceed with something right now that will possibly be a compromise?
Simple logic.
B.
AND a couple of responses:
Anvil post May 23.
Will chat on the 26th
Anvil post May 23
B.
Quote:
"that I don't have to advertise my experience, secondly, litigation is litigation and being pink, brown, blue or
whatever is of little consequence, AND lastly I don't make statements unless I have all the facts required to make an informed statement."
Never would expect that from a matchbook legal scholar
Interesting the bradley Dep. amongst
other preparations. Speaks volumes for the show next Tue. As well as how enlightened Judge Taylor
will become. Though his enlightenment is already under way I can assure everybody.
B.
And why would any of this be of any interest to you?
You clearly stated in a earlier post quoting "For full disclosure"
you no longer have a vested interest in Qasp, having divested yourself of QASP shares some time ago and re investing the proceeds elsewhere.
("Full Disclosure, I have sold out my QASP position, and may pickup some NHSH if ever we get some info. I did so as they were freebies and my confidence level in Owens has dwindled.
Further disclosure, I rolled my QASP dollars into SFIO made money and lost it in CNOZ.
My problem is Owens. I don't think he knows what he is doing outside in regards to the contemplated transaction. He gets ahead of himself without seeing what he is proposing is doable (e.g share exchange, audited financials, etc.)I only hope he is helping Jeff with the legal bills.
This current case is not about Dean's fraud, it is about who is the CEO. Quite frankly, both sides must be doing a lousy job of articulating/proving their arguments, as the Judge thinks this is a joke.
Lastly, in regards to the many experts (legal and otherwise) who constantly predict that a certain court date is the last hurdle, well I have no patience for them. Either they are trying to mislead or just plain ignorant.
In conclusion, Owens needs to step up to plate and get this done as promised. A good first step would be officially merging into NHSH. Why has this not been done? ")
One further thing : there is a difference between postponement and Continence
B.
Ha! looks my Wife just may
show us all how to play the pinks after all!
She leaned over my desk and said "Check out GRDO an weep.
She got in way back in the trips and forgot about it.
And here to beat her drum:
OOps change the "T" to "Y".
SJOGRINGO contact me
at asymmetrical98@tahoo.com I'd like to talk
B.
There really is an orchestrated mutual
admiration club forming on the Q page. amazing amount
of regurgitated , previously discussed at length, subjects being
ER, discussed??? A lot of slanderous inflections too!
Like I said previously, watch what you say and to who, all is not
what it seems.
B.
PP that is priceless.
My wife came in just as I was running the ad and she
freaked out laughing. End the day at the office with a laugh. thanks.
Yes cat bullion is a good
move, tho in most peeps eyes it's not a trade for a
quick buck proposition. BUT it will provide a major
gain over the medium to long term, with security to boot.
The stocks are lagging badly for now, but I expect investors
to jump in once they start to get blindsided by the financials.
My companies, one in particular is well overdue considering
it's cash flow is all glittering, and with a particular PR in the next fortnight I think, hope, for a nice jump.
Silver over $50 by July and Gold pushing the $1600 mark.
B.
PP interesting link. A lesson
can be learned from them and is pertinent as to how we find developments on the supporters and assumed representatives of the QASP "commons" holders.
There is a big difference between a Secret society and a Society with secrets.
A secret society is clandestine, everyone knows it exists, but is not quite sure why. Consequently, speculation is rife and suspicion is the order. This can be damaging and frequently becomes dangerous.
A society with secrets, on the other hand, is recognized and can often be widely supported. But it does have secrets held by and divulged to a select group. These secrets are what develop into worthwhile actions which become accepted and successful.
Easy to see what we are looking at.
Just a bit of BS while I wait for a meet.
B.
Hey there all and Tex
You and fink are on it, I agree time to take the gloves off.
BS. pussy footing around a judge who it would seem is in the dark and consequently thinks it's funny. BS. listening to drivel on the other boards talking cr.p. BS. waiting for almost every timeline to be broken. BS. listening to "experts" giving smart ass legal information, while they cast derogatory statements on Jeff and James. BS. listening to those same people who know SFA about the real facts and the heavy losses of the long shareholders, Jeff included. ALSO> BS. on waiting for the very special NDA. BS. on the fact that all we get is "updates", never real defined progress, by a few faceless representatives.
I know exactly where you are coming from. I have done some contacting of my own now and I am not disposed to the pussy footing syndrome.
I fully understand the philosophy and prudence of waiting for the hopeful outcome on the 7th, but feel input and support is required to positively influence that result
I do too, feel that all the requirement for a backup should be in place as of now and it isn't, certainly not to my knowledge. The NDA and all alternative plans should be completed and ready for implementation should they be required on the 8th. If not why not? There has been plenty of time. All I hear is talk, talk and more talk. Enough already.
Lastly, because I am not in a good mood: The smart ass who posted that I should "give it a break". I have some advice: go home to another sand box and come back in a decade when you know something other than what is on the boards and Google search.
B.
Lets take pause in the affairs of QASP
and rather turn our thoughts to the gravity of the present situation in the US of A
on both the political and social fronts.
Those in the services are the ones all can trust
I quote a very touching and sincere post by Lars siler. It could not be said any better:
"Praise the Lord and all our fallen brothers, sisters, parents and family,and all the innocent lives,lost in battles, and remember this day in our hearts. Thank you for all that have served and supported our Veterans, in peacetime and in battle.
God bless the Land of the free. May freedom's bells ring from shores to shores, and unite us today as Americans.
God bless America, my home aweet home.
And thank you our Canadian friends,
and all those that gave their life for peace."
Memorial Day 2011
CAN'T TOP THAT.
B.
pack, yes it is discovery for
a reason. Make no mistake this Judge will know a heck
of a lot more by next weeks return.
The shareholders vote is of course something we have advocated as urgent for some time. I actually spoke to Jeff a few weeks ago on the subject of getting together a shareholders petition
supporting him (with reasons) and submitting it to the hearing.
He felt it unnecessary, which he qualified and I agree.
B.
PP having your open minded
and sensible comments on anything I or anybody else posts
is always worth while. For sure with posters like yourself,
Jeff and the rest of us "commons" will be sitting in victory circle shortly.
B.
Important, after reading thru the posts on opinions
and critique of the results of the hearing on the 26th, there is a couple of things which need to be said
regardless of popular acceptance.
Jeff's deposition was not necessarily lacking, and remember has not been seen in it's amended form, so any criticism of it is as unfair as the premature publishing of it was in the first place.
One has to bear in mind the judge was only familiar with the overall picture and not familiar with the depth of the details. Next time around he will be far more involved with actual circumstance.
Jeff and his Atts., did exactly as they should have done. Jeff was low key and not unrealistically demanding.
Team Jeff knew knew the other side were over confident and also knew the judge was liable to be confused
as to why all the fuss over so little, AND Team Jeff also knew they couldn't possibly enlighten him in the time available. Pure logic! SO what's best? Status Quo for a decision which will be made after enlightenment June 7!
The preferred are the main crux of the whole exercise with regard to this hearing and this, it would seem is
something that will make or break the whole thing. Team Jeff are 90% ahead on that score, in the judges eyes I am sure.
I have heard the suggestion of bringing up of an amicus curiae, which it seems all know the meaning of by now.
I would strongly suggest that those advocating this to drop it. Besides any other reason, there is nobody on this or the other blogs that have enough verifiable information to issue a "Friend of the court" letter to the Judge.
First, Team Jeff are fully capable of the undertaking they are in the process with. Second, without first hand knowledge, it could backfire and be perceived in many different lights by the judge and be interference with what Team Jeff are planning. If they need the assistance they can easily ask for it and we all know there will be plenty
of "enlightened" takers.
The last thing I would like to say: There is a lot more to legal proceedings of this nature than meets the eye. bandying around criticism and solutions using legal vernacular, require very solid verified information to be of value. Reading the nuances of what is known and of what can be expected, requires first hand knowledge and a lot of experience.
B.
P9 you are right in your opinion
of what is going on. It certainly will be in everybody's interest to wait till June 7 is over with.
It will not influence the fact that there will be a share offering one way or the other. One is easier
to accomplish in the form of a merger.
Regardless of the outcome, suffice to say, the holders have an answer which is not smart to expound on.
B.
Morning all. A reasonable and
logical, to be expected result from yesterdays 3 Hr session.
Jeff remained the MAN and the rest didn't get anything they wanted. They were over confident and it made NO impression.
Jeff has nothing to hide, the others do.
This will silence the pundits who claim Jeff's primary motive is "TO GET" Dean. It isn't, His primary goal is to help the shareholders and this proves it. He had a lot of stuff to use if and when necessary. Let the Fed's GJ, Sheriff go after Bradley, and his crew. It will come.
The judge has his curiosity up on this now, and will more than likely be au fait with the underlying ramifications come the 7th.
A nice outcome to a messy business and Jeff's Att's did a nice job.
Time for more focus on Centa and let the rest settle itself, and it will.
B.
Ominous silence from the dark side
is very telling, don't you think! Bodes well and all is well.
A good week end looming.
B.
Well peeps my best wished to Jeff
and my support. Tomorrow will be an interesting day and a stressful day for those concerned. When the dust settles there should be some eye opening and long reaching developments. In case anyone is interested jeff has amended his dep., which should never have been "published" anyway and will read in a much better light than previously, when made available.
I have no doubt there will be a lot out of left field and those that think they know actually know nothing. That is generally the name of the beast, especially under these unpleasant circumstances.
All the self proclaimed experts and amazing DD researchers will no doubt be hyper active from now on in, let them be. Other than the odd wild guess they will all be O T L. until they get the facts. Then I guess we get the next phase!! Oh well Ce la vie.
B.
Morning all, nice post on Centa
Easy to see ol James is champing at the bit to get
the show on the road, in the ways of a real and well run company.
Things are beginning to move and the roaches are aware of it.
B.