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I hope you are right...
My Yahoo Finance says the PE is now 64.
How did you get 11? Did Yahoo not reflect most recent earnings?
What is the deal here, toxic financing? Too many OS or AS shares?
This really looked like a winner at .70, went to $1.20, then dumped... what is the simple reason)s)?
Thanks!
The P/E is around 79.
Doesn't sound like a wounded duck PPS to me, sounds like we are where we should be... for now...
That is not to say I am not buying at these levels (I am), as the prospects for growth are obvious and outstanding.
Interesting news.....
BUT. Be nice to see one of the new deals actually get rolling and make some money... this looks like a shotgun approach, which is fine, BUT... none of the exciting new deals ever seems to get off the ground and earn some income...
This stock is a sleeper... it has put me to sleep for months!
Might be a nice play for flippers, but I agree with others that until any of the new gigs work, this will approach .08 and the flippers will bring it back down... who can blame them, it is all that is left in this stock for now...
If the new stuff works, this might be a great stock... in 2011.
GLTA!
Looks like a dead duck...
Oh well...
high hopes for AWYI, gang, take a look. Might as well look at new ideas, this one was a flopper. AAGH may still run (eventually) too.
VGLTA!
This thing is dust in the wind.
Acquisition? Don't be cruel!
How can this company acquire another company?? With what? More confederate money? More toxic financing? Not a chance, IMO.
I used to believe in SH, long time ago... no more. He took us for a ride, and the company will go under soon, IMO.
Even the WebDA is obviously worthless... if anybody wanted it, they could buy it cheap... what is the market cap now, around $400?
These penny's can be rough!
GLTA
Ted, are you a PCLI employee or something?
You think I am speculating? Look at your posts... nothing but.
OK, the 10K says otherwise. What specific contract do they have with what specific retailer? And, please no smoke about they can't name them, but do have a contract. Nonsense. Why have they not placed one kiosk? Care to speculate?
Yes, I DO know that they have tech problems and do NOT have the bugs worked out, they mentioned it in a release.
They well may get financing? Speculation??
Are they going to find an "Angel" to finance them behind the current toxic financing? Right.
Enough of the pump, Ted, it is black and white. If it is not white, it is black. And this stock is the real black, pal.
Continue with the 6000+ national retailer roll out??!!??
Which one was that? You mean the supposed Walgreens deal? That has been around forever, and it just is not happening. Why would the CEO state that they are reevaluating their participation in burn on demand if they have a contract or even a chance for one?
They do not have ANY contracts for retailer roll-outs. They do not have equipment that is ready to go (technical issues, and the tech guy quit), and even if they should accomplish it soon, they have no money to do anything.
They have lost several KEY individuals who would be crazy to leave if there was ANY light at the end of the tunnel... right?
The PPS is fast approaching zero.
Hey, this is not bashing, just common sense. You have the right to sprinkle fairy dust, and that is fine, but signed retail deals, functioning equipment and cash flow is all that matters. Do they have any of those?
Don't call anyone a basher, much easier to call someone a pumper with this dog... notice the PPS?? You think the investment bigwigs would ignore such a great opportunity? Show me the beef... solid evidence of deals, equipment, and financing. If not, the "positive" guys here just sound silly... sorry!
Good one!
But Jack Nicklaus is a golfer...
Nice to see some optimism here, but this thing is now a sub-penny, traded in the .004 range, and looks ready to fail.
The investment community does not see any value or potential here, as the company is obviously in severe financial straights, the management is in disarray and aside from all of the smoke, are there ANY potential deals out there at all? Walgreens, if ever a potential deal, is gone. Are they avoiding a report that the deal they were so excited about is dead? And they apparently are considering forgetting about the kiosk thing altogether. They indicate that they are still positive about the business prospects, but why haven't they been able to put together even one lousy deal with anybody??
No indication if the tech problems are solved even if they did wish to pursue any deals.
How about the financing? I doubt in this condition that anyone but the toxic boys would consider a flyer on this company... maybe not even them.
I guess that those here that have been creamed in this stock might want to hang around to see if any Pr's are issued that might get the PPS up, but for me, I am out... there are other sub-pennys that have much greater chance of moving strong than this wounded duck.
GLTA!
Not gone, just watching this soap opera from the sidelines...
This stock is like a hamster in the talons of a big owl... still twitching a little, but the prospects for the future are a bit bleak...
Down 40% this AM on very small volume... any more positive thoughts about the buyout?
Just a little more time, right?
Might be time to revise the IBox...
Sort of embarrassing to have the WWTBAM pix up when that goose is cooked, and was the big flop for Mak and friends...
I am concerned that the Olympics may be a major flop... pollution and or citizen protests and or some attacks could very well put a major blight on the whole deal... and if many governments boycott the opening ceremonies.... well, you get it... might cast a pall over the China entertainment thing...
I agree that the new shows are great, IF... the advertising/distribution deals are all signed, the shows air, the revenues are very good, etc. After the flopper of WWTBAM, I think the investment community will wait to see...
But if it works out, and the core business keeps up the great growth... we should be happy campers... in the long term...
GLTA!
PS: Where is our pal Han??
I am getting the feeling that one of the few remaining optimists here (pumpers?) might be an old friend of this board and the Dino's, so newbies... beware.
To continue to maintain that the Dino's are good, hard working people, honest, etc, is just beyond reality.
Remember the "both Boards have approved this deal" stuff?
Now that that "deal" has obviously collapsed (as if there ever was a deal... NOT), the Dino's can now release to the shareholders the specifics of the company that was going to buy for .49/share.
Any confidentiality agreement is no longer in effect, and the Dino's would do much to restore their shattered reputation by releasing the name/address/phone numbers of this company, and the details of the offer and board approval. If they do not, then the possibility of a manipulation scam goes from 99.7 to 100%.
As for crowing about a few minor buys, that is just a few last attempts to manipulate the PPS, and they are failing pretty badly... sure the quoted PPS goes up in large percentage chunks (usually on VERY low volume), but have you noticed that if one tries to sell, the bid is still around .01.... scamville, USA.
Only a few people left pushing the possibility that this is not a complete scam... still thinking that the .49 will happen, that the buyer is still out there somewhere, that the Dino's are honest, that the complete lack of any news or updates since December is no problem, that the stock issue and the disappearing money involved is just dandy... that the company is worth over 100 million over their assets...
love the board, better than desperate housewives...
Ever seen the show: "Get Smart"???
I wonder how this stock is still listed? Where is the most recent quarterly report? Any income?
Fun to watch!
Really, Hep... YAWN!!
Don't get me wrong the big U is doing great, BUT, let's get one of the dang things on the air and WITH revenues over the costs!
And... no more S-8's, PLEASE!!
Talk about a buy and hold, when I bought this stock, my hair was dark brown... now 50% gone and the rest is snow white!
hope they continue to build the core biz, at least that we can count on.
Viva Viagra?
Ted, you and I are on the same page, just maybe different sides for now...
I appreciate your posts... good stuff.
I really do hope there is something around the bend... with the PPS so low, I am thinking that an announcement might still give me time to load the boat... once a firm deal is in place, so what if I have to buy in at .02? be happy to. Because once this thing firms up, with real deals and kiosks in place, I agree, it will be a great ride...
And I hope it happens just that way!
My best wishes for all here.
Hi, all,
Ted,
"Therefore they ARE working with a national retailer and are on the VERGE of a major announcement that will demonstrate their first mover competitive advantage in an industry that is poised for significant growth. Why? Because they are credible and this is what they have said is the situation."
I think that issue is in some doubt. If that was for sure, even a test marketing trial, we would not be sub-penny, IMO. Additionally, there appears to still be technical issues that mean that the kiosks are NOT ready for placement (#17?)... when will they be solved? Who knows. Are these tech issues what is holding everything up? maybe.
"They are strapped for cash, but they will NOT go under IMO because of their access to funding which they have always been able to get. IMO their significant position in the market will give them access to shareholder-friendly financing.
One, the financing they have been able to get appears to be punitive, maybe toxic. Who wants more of that unless absolutely necessary? Additionally, when you can't pay the execs, there is always the possibility that they will go belly up.
Two, "significant position in the market"? being low on cash, losing a key player due to lack of money (and why would he not stay, even unpaid if the BIG announcement was around the corner)and having poor financing, having tech issues that prevent a roll-out and being a sub-penny does not represent a position in the market, certainly not a significant one.
The Q/A was interesting, but when looked at with an unbiased view, it did not say much... kiosks not ready to go, deals not signed, financing poor, cash, almost none, execs unpaid...
I am all into trying to remain positive, but here was not much to hang your hat on, was there.
GLTA!
Thank you, Ted, ILPLCI,
Some good guys here, hope the thing turns around... nice to see ya here Rook!
Did anyone post the questions? I bet there are some good ones!
I still own enough to hope that the questions are answered in detail, and not with a bunch of fluff... we will know much more about all of this if the guy does not waffle round...
I still like dreaming about a merger with Redbox... nothing to indicate that, but what the heck?
I have been restricted to 3 posts/day by Matt since Feb. He seems to have a personal thing with me, not sure why. But I will keep an eye on this and hope for the best for all of us!
Thanks for the props!
I have trimmed my position here by around 75%... I am no "Norman Einstein", but just the plain, common sense look at this thing spells bad news to me.
I just do not see any positives anywhere. Sure, maybe a deal will be announced soon, but they announced a deal before, and it looks to be off the tracks. If it was not, a PR update on it, in general terms, even with non-disclosure limitations, would have been issued, IMO, as the bottom dropped out of the PPS. In this case, no news is no good news.
And to spin the resignation of one of the main guys in this as positive is sort of bizarre.
PPS of .17 to .012. Late reporting. Anyone think that this is just a phase? Big deals and roll-outs around the corner? I wish it were so. I got creamed here... it happens.
I will try elsewhere. This guy has lost major credibility, and the upcoming Q&A will probably be a fluff job saying everything is groovy, just delayed, blah, blah.
Hope you all find the big winners out there, I just no longer think that this is going to be one of them.
Hi, guys!
Looks like another LONG wait for any action here... will take a long time to see if the new shows will fly...
I wonder what the PPS would be if Mak the quack just did the core business, no dilution and no WWTBAM?
Ah. well, if pigs could fly, right?
Hope everyone has a great week!
Hey, it did have a big run...
From .019 in November to .0008 now. Or is that not what was meant?
Other stocks mean nothing here... the sales projections given in PR's were bogus. The financing is toxic, nobody is foolish enough to dispute that. And the acquisition... again, what is he going to use to buy another positive cash-flow company, especially when he is in default on his current hard money horrible financing?? BS is non-negotiable these days.
I don't know about any other boards or guys coming over, but you think there is a great market for shorting this? It was a much better short at .019.
Stating facts is not bashing.
Tryz, that was a fluffer PR... no info at all... why not status the previous PR about a major retailer with 5000 stores?? Is not the MAIN focus of all shareholders?? No mention of that at all. And yes, it has appeared to be quiet, as the PPS dropped by 95% !!!
Bali, here is the link:
www.commonsense.com
Read it carefully!
Too true...
And remember, it is not just poor performance, he lied when he PR'd the NADA show being a HUGE success... based on income, it was a royal flop... and that COULD mean he was pumping, knowing that, in fact, the NADA show was a loser...
The toxic financing that has now gone to default? man, oh man...
And the one sign up, with 7 dealers? Excuse me, but big deal... and he could have almost given it away just to sign someone up... who knows, we will not see income for some time...
He was confident he would have 150 by now... not even close.
I think, with the financing and the bogus thing with the marketing firm, this thing is over...
By the way, wouldn't you fire the marketing firm for poor performance?? They have not accomplished Jack Shat.
Maybe because there has been no meaningful PR's addressing the retailer and the roll out since, when, 2007???
And... why would a guy go to pursue other opportunities just before a major retailer signs on and rolls this thing out?!?!? P.S. He was canned.
What is so hard about an update, give the lack of info and the PPS and the legit concern of the shareholders?? He could PR: "Everything with the retailer and the roll-out is fine, just a few delays because of Blah blah, should be accomplished by... whenever..."
P.S. Everything is NOT fine, the deal is toast, no other deals are inked, not even a test market roll out, the guy in charge of Titlematch is fired, and the reporting is late.
Why don't we all wait???
Maybe because the PPS is a penny.
Signed deal with a major retailer???
Who?
And why would the guy in charge of Titlematch resign if such a deal is in place??
Yeah, yeah... we don't yet know... but the likely story is that there is no deal or the deal fell through... and the "signed deal" apparently was for a test run of a few kiosks, not a full on contract... And, if it was, in fact a done deal, why no PR indicating that it is in place?
And let's face it.. if a deal was in place or even eminent, the word would leak to family and friends, and the PPS would not be in the cellar!
Answer, it is not a done deal at all... not even close and not even a test run.
Cheers, I like Oban and Glenmorangie!
And need some!
Insiders buying stock is ALWAYS a great sign... and them NOT buying stock is a BAD sign... Sure, an insider can't load up right before a major deal is announced, if one is in the works, BUT, he said no insider purchases FOR YEARS... and that is BAD.
Let's get real... the guy primarily in charge of Titlematch resigns... and does anyone think he would have if a major retailer was already inked or about to be inked??? Or if ANY retailers were ready to roll this out??
Come on! This is a major indicator of a disaster looming... oops, not looming, I should say "continuing"! You may think I am being negative, or bashing, but common sense would indicate that the guy resigned because the potential major deals did NOT work out. If any did, or were about to be announced, why on earth would he resign right before the announcement?? It is likely that there are ZERO major deals in the works now, and probably no minor deals either. That would explain the total lack of any news or any real updates. There are no kiosks at all out there. The PPS would indicate that there won't be any soon.
Sure, they have "relationships" with majors, but they are SUPPLIERS, not customers!!
I'd say this thing is going down the toilet, but really it is already more than half way to the septic tank! From .17 when I started to watch to .012, and a big "E" on it for giggles.
Sorry, I think the fat lady is humming, getting ready for the final song.
Thanks, Bubba and Badger...
I wish it were otherwise, for sure... Turns out SH is into his own profit, the heck with DLAV shareholders... bummer.
Not supposed to mention other stocks, so I won't mention AWYI, which is also a sub, but at least has some real potential. I also will not mention DPDW, which has the makings of a big winner, IMO. No pumping allowed, guys, just an indication there are other plays where the PPS might actually INCREASE!!
Good luck to all here!
Print, you might be negative here...
But it sure looks like you were and are correct... this is starting to circle in the final flush... Between the toxic financing, the HMG sucking of money from the DLAV company and the lack of excitement over the product...
This goose seems to be cooked. He has indicated a great NADA show, not appears to be BS as the new deals implied have not materialized, and he has had plenty of time to get several inked...
The dilution continues, and the "acquisition" seems to have been a possible pump, as DLAV simply does not have any funds to buy anything, except for SH and HMG salaries and profits. SO what's up with THAT? Aynone think a company with pos cash flow would consider being purchased by DLAV for STOCK??? Worth .0007/share?? With extreme debt?? Unlikely at best.
And let's get real here... plenty of nifty hand-helds out there... A successful competitor simply picks a format, hires a great programmer, develops a program that does all of what DLAV's WebDA does, maybe even better, and the WebDA becomes almost irrelevant. So no company would buy DLAV for it's flagship product, as there is no need.
So where does that leave us?
Well... at .0007 and falling, that is where. Not much to go, less than a 10th of a penny and near worthless.
Good luck elsewhere, guys!
Hi, Hep and War...
Think when they get a distribution/advertising deal they will try again on WWTBAM?
Has to be worth something, no? Maybe at least they can sell the rights to some other player?
I agree, the core business is looking very good... hope it continues to grow... that alone can move the PPS way up, if they either figure out the TV stuff or drop it... as long as the losses and dilution go away!
Skoal, bros
I don't think there was any insult intended... maybe not sheep... just well meaning suckers, taken in by a scammer .
Was there zero volume today? My Yahoo finance thing says zero...
Apt to be some hard feelings here, with this stock, no wonder... people have lost big and are going to lose more, IMO.
When the principles disappear... anyone in their right mind has to be concerned. I really believe this stock will be halted soon, just my O. No updates, no earnings, no balance sheet, no anything for 4+ months. And, of course, no deal.
Even Kilgore has stopped posting.
Last one out, turn off the light.
He has told some pretty blatant lies already...
I had some high hopes for this guy, but it seems he has given up on the company and is now trying to pad his wallet until the thing finishes it's collapse.
I think we are all toast.
Wish it was otherwise.
Kind of craven, but I am hoping like others for a final pump and bail.
He pumps.
I bail.
You notice that the bid is still.. .015?
Total dollar volume maybe $2000 or so?
Not exactly a mandate from the people, is it?
If one of you longs would put another $20,000 into this, you would see the ask really scoot... although I wonder if the bid would change?
I'd be a little careful about manipulation here... a newbie might lose his/her shirt. I sure wouldn't buy any at .03!!
Anybody heard ANYTHING from the Dino's? Any financials? Any update on the "deal"??
Until proven otherwise, one must assume that this was and is a scam, and that the Dino's are crooks.
All IMO.
GLTA!
That IS a big holding... around $780K worth...
Wonder where he bought the shares? Hope it was around .17... so he will be well motivated! Of course, that would mean he has a hole in his pocket of around 8 MILLION, but... maybe it was much less... and if recent purchase, I agree, that would be good news... maybe he knows something we don't.
Hey, I am rooting hard for PCLI, just the lack of verifiable news or inked deals is still an obvious concern...
Big news, small news, any news... it is all good if it comes!
GLTA!
P.S. I don't think anyone is lying, as there is nothing solid to lie about... wonder why this takes so long? Kiosks ready? Seems a test run of 500 stores or so would be a easy thing to do... no? IF the equipment and content is ready... anyone know if it IS?
Hi, Rube,
Sounds a little hard to believe... if viewership was good or great, all other problems should be able to be quickly fixed... Why not get new distribution from another company and re-do all of the advertising... which should be easy if the ratings were very good...
looks like they just dropped it completely.
Why? Who knows? But either Mak is incompetent, or he is lying.
Either way, drains confidence in myself and potential new investors. I have trimmed my holdings here, at a loss. I have kept a few and will wait and see on those. Something is a little smelly here on the entertainment side... he should stick to the core business and try to increase growth there... at least THAT is working... why dilute the heck out of a stock with a good core company to chase these loser shows?
GLTA!
Easy, boys!!
This is about getting creamed on a stock, not about personal stuff... let's direct the anger at SH, where it belongs... we all thought this had a chance, but look at it... a WebDA thingy that has a functionality that is probably easily copied, if any competitor wanted to bother...
The income per dealer is not too exciting, and this is not exactly sweeping the industry...
So I, like others here, made a mistake, a big one, on the whole DLAV investment and the potential behind it.
This one hurt, but time to move on... in my case, to AWYI, at least there is some potential there for a sub-penny... not a pump or a recommendation, just pointing out there are other sub-pennies out there that look much better than this thing... which appears to be mediocre at best, and a vehicle to enrich the CEO and others at our expense at worst.
SH seemed like an honest guy, but I hear that Pol Pot was a crack-up at dinner parties too!
Well, Ted,
Sounds like we are pretty much on the same page... I do not mean to demean your views, positive is better than negative. Nothing personal.
The 90%+ drop is maybe due to the new rules and maybe due to 30 million shares being dumped... but I do not think we would have gone down SO low, or remained here if there was support from the CEO as to letting the investment community know that there are, in fact, specific deals in work that are soon to be inked...
Absent that, we will wallow in this mire. Is he saving it up for a surprise? Maybe. I'd prefer that he keep us up to date on deals that are in work and their status... After all, can't he get ANY kiosks out there, just to show the other potential partners that this is real, effective and working? That PCLI is a legit option to the others? That PCLI CAN set up kiosks that work as advertised?
A few small deals, working deals, would lead to much faster acceptance and growth, IMO.
Anyway, good luck to us all, I hope it works out, and soon!
Unexpected PR's and incredible surprises...
Position of leadership.....
Right.
The reason that this has collapsed from .17 in January to .015 today is that there are no deals confirmed at all.
The PR's that hinted at a deal that has not happened have not been backed up with PR's that explain WHY the deals have not happened. There is not a single kiosk up and running to my knowledge... why not? Why not at least have a smaller chain up and running?? Why not several smaller deals?
This absence of info has been legitimately understood to mean that the deals, if any, are in major doubt. And the financing, and the late reporting just adds to the angst.
Positive thinking is appreciated, BUT... show me the beef, even if it is just a small hamburger patty, before you start talking about $1/share. That just sounds like pumping.
No offence.
Thanks, bud!
I have taken a position a few weeks ago, and am feeling good about it... I have been creamed on a few others, so I have high hopes for DPDW!
That FT deal looks great, and if there are more and bigger acquisitions in the future, I will be one happy guy.
Hello to all, nice board here!
GLTA!
That would be PUTZE, if you don't mind....
I'm surprised that the PPS is holding here... thought it would go to .005...
It was all on SH, and he shot a blank.
As for the acquisition... again, what do you think he is going to use to buy this other company?
If the other entity was acquiring us, then that I might believe... and I hope, I HOPE that some other company will buy!
Look at the total value of the OS and even the AS... I guess WebDA is pretty worthless, because anyone who wants it can buy it cheapE!!
I am going to have to find a soup kitchen around here soon....
Well, tha-tha-tah-that's all folks!
BUT...
What is the use of selling at .001?
Acquisition? Is that where all of the rest of the 45 BILLION shares came from, part of the "acquisition"? Who aside from Yugo would be bought out or merge with this loser?
But...
If so, there is still a really tiny chance we might be able to recover some of our lost dollars... hope it goes to .005 so I can bail, and I mean BAIL! I'll sell so fast my fingers will break on the keyboard! Then I can invest that in a much better company... like Cherynoble Grocery.
I love and MG...
Nice to see we are on the same page here... salud!
I like a positive pump once in awhile, but it gets to be meaningless if there is no news or support by the big wigs... like here, like now.
ilovePCLI, I hope you do not have to change your handle!!
Maybe IloveDPDW?
Most of my picks have been creamed, so I am now a pauper.
If no action here, I am moving to Tibet and becoming a monk. Guess I will have to take my .45, unfortunately.
Peace, brothers!
Interesting days here...
The 10K is good to great, we roll.
The 10K is lukewarm or bad, we are done.
Just my take.
Come on, SH, make us well here!!