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So you believe that an executive summary PowerPoint presentation is a reliable source for "audited" numbers?
Based on cherry picked numbers that are speculation.
Why don't you use actual numbers from the quarterly report from this month?
Suddenly your projection will begin to look like the reality that is the current pps.
This is the same mentality that I saw with people a few weeks ago when they started saying that the company had millions of dollars worth of mining equipment and based on those assets alone the stock should be trading higher. Then you read company reports and see that this isn't a mining company. They contract everything out and their current assets amount to a few thousand dollars.
If you're so sure, why don't you drop the $12,000 to take them out?
Over 40 million currently on the ask at 3. How is it that you consider that hardly anything? The average daily volume over the last 10 days is 13 million. What is currently on the ask for 3's is more than 3 times the total daily average. So again, how is it that you consider that "hardly anything"?
With BMAK sitting on the ask, how do you figure L2 is screaming buy? Is it because you're trying to flip now instead of bash that L2 is screaming?
If you've been watching l2 and the trading the past couple of weeks, you would know we're down around 60%. What exactly do you see that everyone else is missing?
Maybe Terry is playing by these same rules. He found his pens and got all the signatures he needed in 10 minutes last week, but he's not going to share them with anyone. They should get their own signatures. LOL
I found this play by following you and got in at 0.0013 the morning of the Timbaland announcement. I didn't buy as many shares as I should have and actually have averaged up a couple of times since then. I'm pretty happy with this position and look forward to the coming months.
There's a ton of potential here and I don't have anything negative to say about the company. I was just saying that I think we should be careful with the speculation. I've seen multiple posts here where people are claiming a Jameson deal and they state it as fact and not a theory. These type of posts can be fun, but when it gets thrown around as absolute fact.....that's counterproductive.
All of that said, again I found this play because of you. I owe you a beer or beverage of your choice.
So you didn't find any companies that he has turned around either with searches. Got it. Impressive non-existent resume.
So by your logic, anyone should be able to come on here and say absolutely anything about the company whether factual or not. You don't see a problem with that?
I've done google searches. I just told you that in my last post. The only mentions appear to be those from GDAR. Can you post a company that he has previously turned around?
You're absolutely right. I honestly believe we can easily see double that. Things are lining up well. I just think that there is no need to overstate the situation. When someone says this is a $100 million company out of the gate and then posts other news or DD, can it be trusted?
Where did you find his resume? The only thing a google search shows is what GDAR has released. You would think a "turn around specialist" would be mentioned a little more.
This is not reality. This is someone misquoting a tweet to align with their interests and hopes.
The tweet doesn't say $100 million right out of the gate.
It says out of the gate and running. Implying that the company's target is $100 million.
This company is not a $100 million dollar company yet. If it were, the pps would reflect it.
I remain optimistic and think this will move big with a little news, but stating things and claiming them as fact when they are not, simply fuels bashers and flippers.
If this is the only pr release that matters, we should all sell now. The pps spiked after that announcement and then steadily declined with a few spikes here and there. We are now at a lower pps than before that announcement.
As for your claim that this is the only otc company to win a Presidential Green Chemistry EPA Award, that is false.
Here's some DD for everyone. This is who runs the company.
https://www.google.com/search?q=joseph+kristul+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=joseph+kristul+court
It's obvious you don't know how consulting at this level works. People are paid 10 or 20k for about 3 hours worth of phone calls and meetings. Then their name is used for legitimacy. It happens all the time.
You show me that she has an office and is contributing every day and then we can talk about her contributions, otherwise....yeah she would take the money and let her name be used.
Except you purposefully changed the date from May to October. Notice how the website still says the article was published in May.
How accurate did that article end up being? My investment has nearly doubled since last month. What does that say about that article and your credibility?
You're right but the previous comment didn't want to limit the conversation to polyurethane when dow was mentioned. Instead it brought up agent orange and dioxin when as though they were somehow relevant. At the same time the epa awards were mentioned. I thought it was worth pointing out that this terrible company had somehow managed to win 9 of these awards.
I'm glad you figured out that I understand this industry and can offer unbiased, thoughtful insight and still support the company. It's great that you see the value of my posts and welcome a view that realizes that there is risk here, but it is essentially negligible.
Anyways, I don't guess we need to agree on anything to both make a ton of money here. Good luck to you.
Point to a single post where I bashed this company.
Otherwise, we can all chalk this up to another claim you have made with absolutely no evidence.
So, I'm a basher so I can get cheap shares? Is that what you're implying?
I post the facts without trying sugarcoat everything. Honestly, the facts as they stand make this a great company to invest in. I don't think you'll find a single post where I say anything different.
What you will see, is that I occasionally post information that many would choose to ignore because I don't want anyone to misrepresent the facts. What you don't realize is that acknowledging that there is competition and that there are some areas for improvement doesn't take anything away from this company. It simply allows people to truly understand what they are backing and should make them feel incredibly comfortable with their investment.
While I don't disagree with you, it never ceases to amaze me how many people are afraid to have their views challenged. They would much rather see a board filled with "too the moon" or "silver land" etc...
Questions whether valid or not is often met with ire. There are some really good longs here too though.
They believe in this company, and as I pointed out earlier, so do I. I don't believe that it is the only option that is viable or that it is absolutely the best product available. Larger companies have entire divisions and much larger budgets to develop lines like this. Even with that, I still think HCTI is going to find their place in this industry and find a lot of success.
Since you want to point out my lack of understanding, perhaps you should revisit this post. I think you meant to refer to the phasing out of oil based paints.
Acrylic and latex based paints are essentially the same thing.
If you want, I can pm you my phone number. Any time you want to discuss the chemistry at work here, let me know. I'll be glad to.
I'm with you on requiring the facts to speak for themselves.
With that being said, you're still here commenting. That tells you me are invested in this company in some form. Perhaps, financially or emotionally. Either way.
I have looked over the chemistry, the financials, and even the CEO's less than stellar legal issues in the past. I'm still here and feel there is a ton of potential.
This is a huge industry that has more applications than can easily be stated. HCTI absolutely WILL have a spot in this industry. It WILL make a huge impact. It WILL make a lot of money. Other companies WILL also do these same things. That's ok because as stated, the industry is huge. Carving out a small niche is enough to be ridiculously successful.
Let's get away from what I consider facts and drift into opinion.
Load up now. We may see some up and down days, but at the current pps, this is a steal.
Splitting hairs that aren't even there?
He is replying directly to a claim that someone has made in support of the company. They have misrepresented the EPA statement to mean that HCTI is the only viable product on the market. That opinion (notice I say opinion and not fact) has been repeated multiple times. I can assure you that other products can also factually claim that they use no isocyanates at any point in their manufacturing process.
The hairs he is splitting are ones that someone else brought up. Perhaps your comment should be directed to the person claiming that HCTI has the only viable product.
This email and the links contained in it are valuable for becoming familiar with the direction the industry may go in the future.
It contains no useful information about HCTI or products available from competitors. It makes no comparisons nor does it endorse any specific product.
Posting this link as though it proves the point you imply is dishonest at best.
The PR you have linked states that they entered negotiations, after which they would enter a development or r&d stage. If you look at recent releases, we are now at the end of the r&d stage and expect an announcement. There seems to be nothing out of place really, and things seem to have progressed as indicated in your link. Hope that helps.
I posted the link to the Dow product. I would like to point out that HCTI's product does not use solvents in the traditional sense as Dow's does.
It could be argued that the components themselves are the solvent once mixed, but that's semantics.
This is a very large industry and there is room for HCTI and their product. I don't believe it to be the only solution, but I think they will do very well, even with competition from larger industrial chemical companies.
So first, isocyanate free urethane is not a new concept. I can provide you patents that date back to the early 80's. It would seem that epoxides are used instead of isocyanates much like hcti.
Next, there are several misconceptions about the EPA and California and how they are going to instantly ban isocyanates. This will not happen anytime soon. What has been "proposed" is that new uses would need to be approved. Not all isocyanates will be banned immediately. Not all manufacturing will be ceased. New processes will need to be approved. Notice this isn't even in effect, nor does it have a date that it should be in effect.
Last, you cite an incident where people were killed by a chemical spill, not by walking on a urethane coated floor that had a few ppm of isocyanates that diffused into the room. That's a little dishonest, don't you think?
As pointed out when I posted my link to a sales inquiry....how is this different?
I don't see anywhere to order the product. I can download a brochure, and then send an email for quotes.
You can also do that at the link I previously provided for Dow.
You're absolutely correct. Competition does not discredit this company or their product.
What it does discredit is all of the cheerleaders on this board.
They ask you to provide information. Then when you do, they stick their fingers in their ears and pretend like you couldn't do it.
Then they accuse you of bashing when all you have done is give them the information that they requested.
Exactly....no product that is commercially available.
The Dow link allows you to request information and I can assure you, get a quote and product.
Can you post a link where I can buy Green Polyurethane from HCTI?
You can request information about purchasing one of the competitor's (throughout the entire process and end product) isocyanate free products here:
http://coatings.dow.com/en/contact-us/sales?product=PARALOID
So I guess that wasn't my last post for the night, but I wanted to respond to this.
I had concerns over a couple things I saw as problematic and sent an email. I received an email within a couple of hours with data sheets that addressed everything I needed. I didn't reply because I was at work. A couple of hours later Mr. Trossman followed up with additional specs and info. I replied to both and thanked them. A few hours later I got an email from Mr. Cohen. He asked for my contact info so that he could call to address any additional concerns I may have.
The interactions were beyond professional, prompt, and concise. I have no doubts about the merits of the science or product, standalone or compared to competitors.
I listened to an interview with a trader some time back, and one piece of advise stuck with me. Don't enter a position that you like, enter positions that you love. No matter the outcome you know you made the right move. I'm long with HCTI, so that should tell you how I feel about my position.
I want to state this and I'm done posting for the night.
I am a chemist. I dug through the science extensively before investing here. I have corresponded by email with Dr. Figovsky, Mr. Trossman, as well as Joel Cohen. I believe in this company and their technology.
Green chemistry is a hot topic and there is competition for Hybrid in this niche. Still, I invested here because I believe in this company.
A lot of people make statements that are not based in fact and then claim you need to do more DD if you find something that refutes their claims. The facts here are strong enough without embellishment. Let them stand for themselves.
Again, I invested here because IMO, this is a strong company with solid science.
You're correct that some isocyanates will not react and will be left behind. These will absolutely diffuse over time. I agree that this is not ideal.
He is credible. He and his team have developed an awesome product.
It is not the only show in town though, but has some really good things going for it.
My only point is that certain people here exaggerate or make claims based on buzz words that they heard with no knowledge to back them up.
This company is solid without the false claims from people here. Keep it factual and let the rest take care of itself.