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sure would - I'm in a small, well just a little larger study group for Lent - and it's interesting - forcing some people to deal with things that they haven't.
for me It's a lot of validation "ideas and thoughts" seeing things I believe vocalized. A few things I don't care for but I can live with them and they will not make a difference on where I end-up.
ps - who was the guy that sent me Jabez?
Maybe this is old news but I want to know who has read and who is reading "The Purpose Driven Life"
And what did you think or what are you starting to think in general about the book?
EPHESIANS 3:18,19
Excel
Just got off the phone with a guy explaining that and the Passion.
The guys says "Why????????????" "man..slience....."
"hard to fathom God doing that for us........." slience.......
I said "yep" and a lot more!
Thanks for Sharing and updating NYC! It's important - that little Godson of yours is a real trooper!! Thoughts and prayers are still with Elijah and family.
when are you guys going on this pig hunt again?
amen
daily witness
Please place Steve P. in your prayers. Steve
struggles with depression and has made some poor
choices during the past 4 months. Tonight he decided
to call me while contemplating taking his life
tonight. Steve is really low and needs lifted in
prayer - his faith and belielf in a loving God is
wavering. I told him I'd place him in our prayers.
Know this - he must be very alone and afraid - he
lives in Phoenix,AZ and I have not spoken with him in
almost 10 months. To reach out this far - he is
really seeking and searching for a stronghold.
That's Great!!!! Praise Praise Praise
looking good!
well where are you using it? I wanna see! ;)
Do you mean something like this?
http://www.americanchristiannetwork.com/smallflag.jpg
right take a peek
http://www.americanchristiannetwork.com
have it temporary for now - but tell me if the page loads ok for you
thanks
I bet MCSi will not make the coming out of BKO.
WHo has read the Purpose Drive Life? Your thought on this review? There are a number of them life this one posted out on the net. I just cracked the book this week and might now disagree, remains to be seen - already a couple things - I questioned.
http://www.svchapel.org/site/ThinkOnTheseThingsMinistries/bookreviews/christianliving.html#The%20Pur...
The Purpose Driven Life
By Rick Warren
Warren has emerged as one of the best selling authors in Christendom. His first book, The Purpose Driven Church (see our review of this book) has greatly influenced churches throughout the world, due certainly to the fact that the church he pastors, Saddleback Church, is one of the largest churches in America, and a trend setter among new paradigm churches.
There are a number of similarities between The Purpose Driven Church and the book under review at this time. Both, for instance, offer some good sound advice, helpful biblical insight and practical suggestions. And both are riddled with errors throughout. The highly discerning reader can perhaps sift through the wheat and tares and make a good loaf of bread, but most readers, I fear, will swallow the poison along with the substance. Which leads me to ask, "Who is Warren's audience?" I realize that this book will sell in the millions but I was thoroughly bewildered as to whom the author was trying to connect. If it is a book for the unsaved then he fails, for the gospel is never at anytime clearly presented. The closest he came was when he wrote, "Real Life begins by committing yourself completely to Jesus Christ" (p. 58). In Warren's gospel no mention is made of sin, repentance or even the Cross. Real life seems to be the reward and lack of real life the problem. The thesis of The Purpose Driven Life is stated, I believe, on page twenty five, "We discover that meaning and purpose only when we make God the reference point of our lives." Meaning and purpose will be a benefit to the Christian, but they are not the objects of the gospel itself. This is one of the fatal flaws in the market-driven church's message. If Warren is writing for new believers, which seems the case due to the elementary tone and substance of the whole book, he again misses the mark for he uses many expressions and biblical references that would be unfamiliar to the novice. On the other hand, if he is writing to the mature he has wasted paper, for any semi-well taught believer will be completely bored with this book. So, while much praise will surely be lavished on Purpose Driven, it escapes me as to whom will really benefit.
Be that as it may, I want to give credit where credit is due. Warren writes some good sections on a number of subjects including worship, community, the church, truth and spiritual gifts. If some of these sectors could be isolated from the main body they would make for helpful reading. But when interspersed with any number of erroneous ideas, distortions of Scripture and plain false teaching they are of little value, and may prove dangerous.
As I read this book I began marking these errors in teaching. I found 42 such references, plus 18 out of context passages of Scripture, supposedly used to prove his point, and another 9 distorted translations (one of the most disturbing features is Warren's use of many translations, ultimately choosing the one that proved his point, no matter how untrue to the original Greek and Hebrew those translations were). Warren is obviously a disciple of pop-psychology, which is littered throughout. One example, "Most conflict is rooted in unmet needs" (p.154). Try to find some Scripture on that. He quoted a wide variety of dubious authors, from Aldous Huxley and Albert Schweitzer to George Barnard Shaw and St. John of the Cross. He apparently believes practicing Roman Catholics are true believers, several times mentioning monks and nuns as Christian examples, and of course the mandatory reference to Mother Teresa (twice).
We could go on but there is not much point. To carefully refute so many of Warren's thoughts would take a book of equal length. He is not totally off base, and most likely is as evangelical as most evangelicals. Nevertheless when every third page of a book presents either an unbiblical, or at least a biblically unsupportable idea, there is not much sense bothering to read it. And that would be my suggestion - don't bother.
I don't know if I'm feeling defensive or what the frick - but I make a couple posts - not saying whether I support a posistion or not and your guys got me feeling not I gotta defend what the heck I'm posting at every turn.
Excel I agree about 98% with what you said. I'm just posting stuff I find interesting on the net - is it going to spark a discussion - I guess. Wait until you look at the link on the book reviews and read the one on the "Purpose Driven Life"
that guy doesn't - well - you'll see. And I kind of a agree with many of his points.
Excel I got a kick here:
This movie is a good conversation starter for this subject by-the-way. Paul did not just say "let's all just get along, and ignore our doctrinal differences". No sir. He withstood Peter to the face right in front of everyone. Would you do that? Why not?
Here are a ton of Christian book reviews
http://www.svchapel.org/site/ThinkOnTheseThingsMinistries/bookreviews/book_reviews.html
http://clearstation.etrade.com
recommends: Cornhusker
On Paul Harvey
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/passion.asp
Let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers. - Galatians 6:10 (NIV)
We are never alone
2 Corinthians 1:3-7 (NRSV)
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and the God of all consolation, who consoles us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to console those who are in any affliction with the consolation with which we ourselves are consoled by God. For just as the sufferings of Christ are abundant for us, so also our consolation is abundant through Christ. If we are being
afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation; if we are being consoled, it is for your consolation, which you experience when you patiently endure the same sufferings that we are also suffering. Our hope for you is unshaken; for we know that as you share in our sufferings, so also you share in our consolation.
GOD IS CONSTANT Psalm 102:25-28 (NRSV)
Long ago you laid the foundation of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
They will perish, but you endure;
they will all wear out like a garment.
You change them like clothing, and they pass away;
but you are the same, and your years have no end.
The children of your servants shall live secure;
their offspring shall be established in your presence.
They are here tonight. Just home from the "The Passion of Jesus Christ" GREAT!
where the heck is the price tag on the jewel?? LOL
My tickets are for Saturday afternoon - I really appreciate hearing how people are touched by seeing the movie, also decided to not take my 13 yr old until I see it first.
Found out today that James Caviezel is the cousin to a friend of mine here in WA in ministry. I knew the names were the same but had dismissed it until today - small world.
That guy Pre has a grip - like get a grip! GREAT!!
Cool Hand Pre
sorry - I'm here laughing my guts off right now - or in other words ROTFLMAO - to humorous
Nope don't mix.
Bob - I think we are splitting hairs and words here.
reality is the 44 mag is all the firearm I really need outside my win3030 and win300mag
Every firarm has it purpose.
I could maybe almost see using a model 94 for the pig hunt.
Cause I'd be tempted to have the 44 under my arm and the 94 @ hand ;) did than many time with the 357
I have a buddy that keep trying to get me down to get my concealed permit - he thinks they are going to end the program someday - sooner than later.
oh that's so sweet for him, but I really like the 500 now that I seen the pic today! ;)
OMG - I LOVE IT!!!
did nyc get the 44 or 454? looks a lot like the one I own ;)
Sorry Bob - I don't think I like hearing that there is an "error" in the actual words of "JESUS"
"Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn't come to destroy, but to fulfill. For most certainly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished. Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whoever shall do and teach them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Would You go for something like:
The ceremonies and symbols of the law have ended with the coming of Christ, and that all foreshadowings have come to an end, so that the use of them ought to be abolished
among Christians. Yet the truth and substance of these things
remain for us in Jesus Christ, in whom they have been fulfilled.
Nevertheless, we continue to use the witnesses drawn from the law and prophets to confirm us in the gospel and to regulate our lives with full integrity for the glory of God,
according to the will of God.
more later
Bob I think you need to rephrase your last paragraph:
MATT 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
be careful about where he pokes that nose.