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This rumble is just getting underway. Let's, hear what HHJ has to say about all this revelations. How much more is it going to take to make HHJ to rule in this case. Google, is going to deforest the world writing the same over and over HHJ should be able to see what Google has been doing all along. Time to RULE, time to RULE, HHJ.
R505, there are moments when you pull away from a fight, an argument, and take 1/2 of what could have been the outcome of each of the scenarios. But, when you are right you not only have the moral right, you have the courage to stand and fight your argument when someone steal what is rightfully yours and you fight until the last breath of air, you do not take 1/2 and run.
rdb, I agree with you 1,000%, I for one mentioned what is the relationship if any exist between the W/H via Obama himself and/or his regime has to be studied very carefully. The ability of Google to get things done through the government(surreptiously)forgive my spelling, in other words under the darkness of night in the middle of the day. We need someone to put together a timeline of the relationship, called partnership, whatever, between the W/H and Googgle, when did it start, what Google has been able to accomplish during both the fist election and the re-election, and how much does the W/H owes Goggle in favors to be repaid. Via ???? legal matters??? Spying on us?? what is really this relationship?. That may shed some light into this matter. Go VRNG Go.
Pierrocks, have called David Zenbeck numerous times and no reply, sent him an email, answered for me to try again calling him, over a month and no answer, what is going on? tail spin? have held this for two years, missed the $.0269 in April, wish I could get my investment out. Have not heard from WITH LOVE, for a long time, did he get out in April? can you bring me up to speed, has the government approved the plans and have they wasted another summer and nothing has happened? would appreciate your response.
Tom4, good to hear from you this morning, I have been in and out posting, have not traded any of my shares since August 2012, our pay day is getting closer, VRNG is unfortunately in the hands of HJJ, regarding the Google side of revenue, but most important is that people have forgotten we have litigation against ZTE, ADT, and others in the pipeline. Hopefully HJJ will be ruling soon on he R/R, ZTE will settle in Germany and ADT in he USA. Good things are coming soon. Hang on snoopy hang on. Have a wonderful Sunday, I'll be checking periodically, GLTA.
robbindabank, thank you for conversing with IPDF, he needed some one to reassure him. I am also long and over extended myself on this one from Sept. 2012, missed the Oct. 8,9,10th of the 5.70 to 5.25's. did not sell and still holding. Upside down just like a bat, but I am a believer of VRNG, mainly for one simple fact that what yours is yours and if someone takes it from you, you make them pay for it. When Google pays, they are going to pay dearly. GLTA
Relizer, all VRNG's Long are on vacation until Nov. 12th, when according to JJS we will have Two (2) hours to make our case against ZTE in a German Court Room, (HJJ) should learn from this process, Two Hours (2), not Two (2) years, shame on you HJJ.
secureit, do you really have that crystal ball looking into the future? or is your speculation there is no deal, just like everyone else speculation that there may be some negotiation towards a settlement.
Good morning Everyone, ZTE's pot is on the stove, is going to be Pot Luck, we soon will be able to share some of what we have been awaiting since Oct. 8th, 2012. Remember, good manners at the table leave some for latter when Googel's Pot get's done, enjoy your profits. GLTA
JJS, VRNG, is looking at October 15th, In Germany, you never know what may come out from that, if the outcome favors VRNG it may push Google to think things over, perhaps come back with a good offer? OMO, GO VRNG GO
Red Angus, JJS, other Legal Minds, looks like we are going to be here for a while longer than anticipated. With the agreement to extend the response from Google, VRNG attorneys perhaps are playing their cards to allow HJJ to really go down deep into the belly of the Court of Appeals and in a way let them decide the outcome of this case. VRNG is looking to Europe and other places to begin to create an income stream with cases they know they have a better chance to bring to fruition. Only my humble opinion. Would be nice to have an input from the rest of the Forum. GLTA
fidcow, I hope so, not only at Google but at their Attorneys, whom I think may be in trouble for providing deceitful, wrongful, information.
foreontee, yes it is, I believe that VRNG's management may be restricted to comment on this revelation, but we may be able to send and email with the pacer attached to all the media, I do not know how to accomplish the task, perhaps others in this forum may be, It is worth the try.
Alphi, we need for other Google employees to come forward and expose Google for what they are a Company being run by immoral directors. I believe this may be the crack on the proverbial Dutch Dam. How can we as stockholders help, this should be in the news, CNBC, Bloomberg, and all financial TV channels.
Red Angus, JJS, we need to thank Netprft for posting PACER #998, This is proof that Google has been deleting, holding back, hiding, and many other means of making documents disappear, not making them available when they were supposed to and not turning them over to VRNG what type of answer do you expect from the judge and how soon should we hear a reply from his majesty HJJ.
IBH, glad to have you back, the show is about to start very soon, regain your strength and lets get going. Good to have you back. GLTA
mik3, You have overlooked that our attorneys are in HOUSE, Management, know that now is the opportunity to go after as many companies that are infringing on our patents. The other point is we are not fighting a war and we are not GERMANS, no offense implied. We can have as many fronts that are infringing on our patents. GO VRNG.
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, HAVE YOU NOTICED THE ADVERTISING FROM HOTSTOCKED PRECISION?, IS THIS OWNED BY GOOGLE? ARE THEY TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN EUROPE? THEY HAVE VRNG PPS DOWN TO $2.48 FOR THE YEAR? WHO ARE THEY?
Good Morning VRNG's Long, I am looking for news from management regarding all the other suits, it would be courteous of them to at least give us a update every once in a while specially when our pps is where it is presently, alternating information of the cases we have going would also help in maintaining the share price up. In the mean time hang on Oct. 15th is almost here, ZTE is holding waiting to see where the shoe drops regarding Google, needless to say our good friend is not taking any steps to correct his wrong doing. HJJ, rule on what has been ripe for a long time, it is so ripe that is smelling awful, charm us today wit your R/R decision.
hoggydog, where can we go to read up on this development?
moyer, thank you, hopefully we will be in the hands of fair and competent judges that will see through the veil of deception, DELAY, DELAY, DELAY that Google has been working under. LONG LIVE THE RIGHTS OF AMERICAN LAWS AND PROTECTION TO OWNERS OF PATENTS AND ALIKE, DOWN WITH THIEVERY AND DECEIT. GO VRNG GO.
Red Angus, JJS, I am not an attorney, nor studied law, after reading all 127 pages, HJJ, has legal issues and bias against VRNG, not only regarding the laches but overlooking and not correcting the juries mathematical error. The appeal courts clearly can see and should overturn all the errors committed by HJJ.
JJS, thank you for your reply. I guess we all deserve a brake at this junction.
feisty, Google, already has Motorola and VRNG's patent is only good through 2016, only if HJJ, rules in favor of VRNG, and forces Google to settle, that is the only way I can see anything going on between them.
feisty, the problem with ZTE and any other buyers are various facts regarding the relationship of VRNG and NOK, we do not know what is really in their purchase/sale agreement regarding sale of VRNG to whomever, therefore the number one in line I would say would be Microsoft.
feistyshark, who, other than Microsoft would be interested in VRNG? before they begin to create a Cash Flow steam. I do not know the industry, who could use VRNG's patents.
JJS, Red Angus, what can we do as Investors to intervene with the way that HJJ, has and Is handling this case. Other Judges have spoken as how Google abuses the legal system, there must be a branch of the judicial system that oversees the performance of their Judges, No?
Red Angus, JJS, knowing HJJ, and it's M.O. how much longer, 3/6/9 Months, 1/2/3 years?, VRNG needes to begin to look for ways to create Cash Flow, and leave Google as the Icing on the Cake for whenever HJJ decides to rule in this case
IMPORTANT, EVERYONE!!!!!, DO NOT LET SHORTS STEAL YOUR VALUABLE SHARES, I HAVE MY SHARES FOR SALE BEGINNING @ $6.88 UP TO $16.88, THERE ARE TO MANY SHORT SHARES OUT THERE IF THEY CAN NOT FIND CHEAP SHARES THIS IS GOING TO GO UP, IT MAY NOT GET TO THE $6.88 BUT THEY WILL NOT GET THEM FOR $2.61 NOR FOR $3.88, OR $4.88. DO NOT SELL!!, GLTA, GO VRNG.
Here is the link to Bllomberg's article http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/google-seeks-ruling-copying-books-without-permission-is-fair.html
GOOGLE in the news,Bloomberg, they say they can copy books without the written permission of Authors, where do they think they can take their attitude of bulling every area they want to invade and take the ownership of inventors, writers, etc. etc. looks like a page of the administration with everything they are trying to shove down our throats.
hoggy, that's what everyone would like to know. It will be all according to the news and numbers. I would like to see something around $7 to $9. GLTA Longs.
Red Angus, thank you so much for your wisdom, comments, and guidance, it has not been easy at all, but rewards will come to those with patience. The evil force will not be successful against VRNG. at the end. GLTA
Netprf, good article, an angered reaction from a non-authorized patent user. How many persons, entities, or corporations that own patents that find out their patents are being used without compensation or authorization would allow the infringement of their patents to go on without compensation. If, something is mine is mine, catch you steeling, you pay, end of argument.
tuta, do not worry so much, it will be worth while to wait, in due time we will see it go up to $6-$9, when everyone starts to pay plus what is being developed it will hit in the low $20. GLTA
IPDF, It is not that simple, I think we can remove you know who from power than to remove HJJ. Regarding ZTE, all it takes is one judgement against ZTE in Europe and it will be a domino effect thereafter. Hang on a little longer. I'am close to the bottom of the barrel taking care of monthly expenses, but I am hanging on a little longer. GLTA
Xtrade, I am not an attorney, VRNG has a few of those on board, there is a reason for every season. Can you elaborate from the legal point of view of this filing against ZTE.
Tom4, good morning to you as well, here we are in the waiting lane, I do not really expect a surprise but we may have one coming soon.
Black Hills, It is only my opinion, if they settle it will be upwards of 1.8 billion, VRNG will not settle for less $20.6896. GLTA
bluecheaps, could not have say it any better, Erick Schmidt, had a team from Google working for the Obama re-election where they played a very key position pin pointing where to spend money on TV advertising throughout the Nation. Any where Mit Romney was ahead, they spend the money there, well we know the end result. But, you hit the nail on the head, there is a new Generation a not working group of blood suckers, staying home, their only job is to vote for the ones that offer the best package after the election. VRNG will prevail. GLTA longs.