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Rolling EPS for backward 4Q is 0,039+0,096+0,084+0,070=0,29.
With a SP of 0,62 we today have a P/E of 0,62/0,29 = 2,13.
If you go for Forward looking P/E we have 'something like'
EPS = 0,07+0,14+0,21+0,26=0,68
P/E would then be 0,62/0,68 = 0,91 But this pure theory, and no one is actually buying that, so we have to go by the backward looking P/E.
So, IF we get EPS = 0,68 for 2012. We may have a SP of about $1.5 in a year, with todays market.
Yes, I don't see that big difference beteween 1,50 and 1,60 when others talks about $5-10.
I apologize if it disturbs you.
Treit asked in a poll in post 8197 what the PPS would be 1/1/13.
I said 1,60 in post 8202 and still think this is what we will get.
It seems like Traderfan has the same thoughts.
Q1 - 8 cents
Q2 - 8 cents
Q3 - 15 cents
Q4 - 18 cents
Shall one calculate with Basic or Diluted earnings?
Picture?
Is it possible to post a picture in this forum in anyway? Or do have to use a link?
Yes, that is probably correct Lucky, but my figures are correct?
I'm just trying to update my Excel file with actual data so I can see the trend. And also compare with earlier forecasts.
So the EPS is slowly declining for the last three quarters as a result of the increasing number of stocks.
2011-Q3: 0,096
2011-Q4: 0,084
2012-Q1: 0,070
Correct?
Anyone have the actual EPS fully diluted for Q1-Q4 for 2011?
Questions about earlier presentation in Stockholm 2010.
In the big broschure presented in Stockholm 2010 on page 3 we have the following
Revenue from operations
2011: 57,700,000
2012: 171,408,814
2013: 343,913,690
Operation incomes
2011: 30,600,000
2012: 68,346,033
2013: 139,565,483
Earnings per share (diluted)
2011: 0,50
2012: 1,00
2013: 2,00
If we brake these figures down to Q1-Q4 for each year we get..
For 2012 we will need (approximately figures here)
0,18+0,22+0,27+0,33 = 1,00 EPS
And for 2013 we need (approximately figures here)
0,39+0,46+0,53+0,62 = 2,00 EPS
QUESTION:
How far from these figures are we now do you think?
Someone just dumped 84,000 at .65. :(
Who is actually selling on these news and at this price?
And why? Can anyone explain?
Thanks, and now I know who he is.
Short question:
Anybody know if Gregory Maquire at RedEye is a real person working at RedEye?
Yes, and I will attend the "Erik Penser" presentation on the 25:th.
"Hence and if you believe the numbers coming from Sino Agro Foods, the company looks strong and well positioned to take advantage of current trends in China"
This is why I say they need three independent members of the board.
I said in message 8202 that I think we will have a PPS of about $1.60 on 1/1/2013.
But I start to think that it might be a little bit high.
More like $1.40-1.50. Still 100% up from current PPS.
Why should a listing in Stockholm do that?
Hopefully I'm wrong... But I'm afraid Stockholm will make no change.
Three independent members of the board would probably do more.
Hey Axel.
Could you please stop the poor meaningless messages you are writing. The result is only negativ for SIAF.
But, maybe that is what you want?
Yes, another "new" member on the forum...
Please also see 9514.
I agree Foggy. Many mail definitly has a pumping effect but it's not getting better if all members start publishing mails just minutes after they have been sent.
I maybe stupid but I don't want this stock to be pumped. I think it can reach nice levels all by itself.
The combination of raising EPS and raising P/E will give a nice effect on PPS.
Don't you think?
Traderfan.
You can also ask him to use his normal alias which probably is Danithedog. AgroAxel joined yesterday and writes with almost identical swedish sentence.
And when we are in the mood of complaining.
Hyperboy262626:
Could you please realize that the members of JF pay a fee for being informed privately. When Nisse sends his mail to the group it is NOT your mission to translate and post it here directly. Got it? I hope you didn't miss Nisses last mail where he explicitly informed all members about this!
I've been a shareholder for about 2 years now. I own about 0.5% of the company and have not sold one single stock since I started to buy... And I'm still buying...
Hopefully we won't see Lebed pulling a "Broadvision-BVSN" stunt on SIAF...
Hey Lucky,
I'm not saying that SIAF isn't giving reports, I'm not saying that they don't deliver what they say.
What I'm saying is that the PPS won't go up before we get more good news. I'm also fully aware of the very low P/E and that the PPS normally would be much higher. But since the stock market only give this type of company a very low valuation we need more proof that the company is safe.
-If we could have three independent member of the board for example I'm sure that the PPS will go up.
-If we could get a report that says that 2011 gave $0.5 in return, I'm sure the PPS will go up
-If we could get other good news, I'm sure the PPS will go up.
I would be VERY happy with a PPS of $6 since I own a rather big chunk of stocks
Written from a guy that's been a member for not even two days...
Pumping the stock to $3 in three month and $6 in 12 month...
Do YOU beleive that scenario?
If we can reach $1,00 - $1,50 at the end of the year it's fine. And a very good development from the current price.
SIAF needs
1. independent members of the board. Hopefully from three different countries.
2. More good news
3. Reports that confirm the progress
Yes, I know all about their meetings and dinners and have also been at a few.
A closed Yammer-forum takes 5-minutes to set up and doesn't cost a penny. Everyone that uses Facebook can use it directly.
But if you keep fighting progress and development you soon end up loosing it...
Wrong.
JF members does not exchange information between each other since they do not have any contact information to other members.
JF is a closed group of stock investors, more or less 100% driven by Nils Sandberg, who on a daily basis sends out information to all members. It's a one-way information group.
JF would benefit a lot if they opened up the memberlist or at least created a working chat forum.
There are loads to improve...
I'm no pro, but we currently have a share price that is above SMA 20, 50 and 100. It's the forth time since jan 10 and before that the share price hasn't been over SMA 20,50,100 since Nov 2010. (except 21/9/2011)
As others also has commented...
We definitely have a rather strong resistance at 0.65-0.67 but if we can get throught that, I think we should see 0.8 - 1.0 rather quick.
For me it is very bullish now and I also bought more shares today.
Question:
3. Why was the payment done by issuing shares instead of paying in cash?
Answer:
We emphasize that the transaction with Ironridge currently does not involve an issuance of any new number of shares of common stock to the marketplace.
Rather, we believe that there was a zero-sum and little-to-no dilutive effect with an equal number of shares in treasury retired in exchange for shares distributed
to Ironridge.
About $1.60 since the full year has not been evaluated yet. The stock market is still cautious about chinese stocks. But still very impressive with 4 times current price.