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We have a catalyst for a potential move up on the 23rd correct? Hopefully we will be at 40 cents and not 20 cents geez.
It is quite possible dilution could occur with the stock price in the 100's post split. At that price we wouldn't care. Point taken.
You have to have the money to continue operations. When it runs out they will need to raise money. Don't matter if a payout in pending or not.
My concern is with the timing of when we will get $$$.. If we don't see $$$ in the next 12 months (correct me if i am wrong) there will be more dilution. More dilution lowers the stpck price in relation to the market cap.
6 years to get a measly $30M. Started in 2009 judgement in 2015.
MARSHALL, Texas, June 30, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- A jury in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas in Marshall has ordered the fourth-largest supplier of mobile devices in the U.S. to pay $31.5 million for infringing two technology patents owned by DataQuill Ltd.
The jury heard evidence that ZTE ignored a 2009 letter from DataQuill about the infringed patents and refused to enter a licensing agreement. The $31.5 million verdict covers ZTE's infringement of a variety of mobile devices through March 2015, including over 50 different smartphone models manufactured by ZTE.
Spook.. its impossible to know who these people are and what their agenda is. They could be posting for one trade both as a long and a short. Even the ones that sound sincere may not be.
I would be interested in the timing assuming we win. ZTE will not settle for $1B or even $817M in my opinion. So expect the courts to make that decision.. so lets assume that. But when will that decision be FINAL? 2017 or soon?
I suspect
1. Just prior to ZTE being ordered to stop selling product in the US or
2. Just prior to when ZTE would be ordered to pay V.
From what I am have read here..
#1 I don't see any guesses here
#2 I think what i have read is could push out for years
I don't get it.
How long after Nov 5 might it be when ZTE is ordered to pay?
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God I hope not. So if this drags to end of 2016 we will be out of cash or close to it. That means more dilution. I doubt ZTE will ever settle. Time to move on?
Smart money probably buying.
Millenium bought 500K+ shares last quarter.
Owner Name Date Shared Held Change(Shares)
MILLENNIUM MANAGEMENT 06/30/2015 1,417,429 548,738
Agree.. and unfortunately the punishment will not fit the crime. I lost substantial money in a chinese company and the CEO served 3 months. Some lost life savings. IMHO he should have served a life sentence.
Lets hope if she is guilty of a crime she serves a fair sentence.
Todays Telcon - What is the topic and what do we expect to learn?
Sorry I am just not legal savy.
She could be fired imho
What is fair.. 200 million? I can't see ZTE agreeing to anything more than that.
They are not going to settle imho. They will appeal and appeal but will not pay any sum beyond that. Just my opinion.
Thanks,
I guess if its difficult to put a number on that breach its difficult to put a price on the stock.
Maybe that price on the NDA will come after the infringement ruling? I have no idea, just trying to put a price on this stock knowing nothing about lawsuits.
Will V suggest a price on those damages? If so, how do they make that determination? To determine that amount I would think first Z would have to be found guilty for infringement. I don't understand how the cost of damages can be calculated without knowing if Z is guilty of something.
It would be nice to put together an guess.
I think a lot of this is "Trading". Guys flipping up and down, long and short. Maybe not even guys, maybe computers. Maybe J Giles is working on another long article. His last 2 topics were this Google case and we lost. He needs to redeem himself lol.
Doesn't it make you wonder who Sold to that guy and why?
What amount are we thinking we can get? Remember...
Vringo accuses ZTE of having "a team of more than 115 employees working on the Vringo litigation and asserting 'countermeasures' against Vringo," and of providing these employees with Vringo's NDA material.
The only ones going short are those who are trading. They will cover short term. Long term shorts I expect to be covering. JMHO
The selloff is shocking. The decision shouldn't be. It was said many times we had a 1% chance at Google.
Where do we stand with 5G? Usually for patent holders the value is in the royalties.. Once the 5G transition is made V has no stake. I assume if V wins V will demand a single payment.
Is ZTE product being sold there? If so, is this against the ban?
https://www.facebook.com/ZTERomania
Unless there is a "settlement" I would agree with you on 2016 2017 at best.
Thats ancient. JASO hasnt traded at 4.62 +.52 for years. JASO is 9+ now.
"JASO has faired pretty good too. We picked it when it traded at $4.62, it is now trading at .52 more than that."
Thank you. Sounds great to me.
Any comments after listening to the call?
Dingo you are correct. There is nothing false or anything LU lied about. That was not an easy read by any means!
Appears Lu is on the run. He has taken ownership of the cash belonging to shareholders and is doing what he sees fit with it. What a mess he has made.
LU admitted he was aware that transferring APWR cash and assets into his personal account (his private companies account) was not permitted yet he did so any way. This is scary stuff. Lies documented on record.
Mike,
Have you heard from the company? They broke ties with shareholders years ago as far as I know.
We knew about the spider web years ago. Years ago most everyone agreed the company was a fraud and stole the money from shareholders. Several posters went out and said LU would get jail time. Its all finally unfolding publicly. Thanks for tracking the story I love seeing the truth. Its a mess of fraud and corruption over there. Investors lost everything on this deal. LU and his friends stole it.
Justice for the shareholders. I hope those responsible for stealing our money pay for their crimes. They have it coming to them. Once they get jailed I will feel closure. Keep up the good work.
Spinning,
Please don't risk being excluded from this board. Boardname is not interested in fighting LU for his investment back. He works for someone. He only pumps this one.
I have lost my savings on this stock i will email you my personal info soon. Thanks.
And the beat goes on...
Like you I wonder where the vultures are. Shorts are quietly beginning to cover and longs are quietly accumulating? Strange.
I enjoy your SA articles and have been following your posts. I have a small position and thank you in advice for any money I might make.
But is the stock still trading? Or are we done and we can't even sell for a tax loss?