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The potential upside of share dilution is that the additional capital the company receives from issuing additional shares can improve the company's profitability and the value of its stock.
Down over 75% last 10 years and over 50% since RS. It is safe to assume the additional shares have not improved the companies profitability and especially the value of its stock.
Another day 8am passes and no news again from the Cancer and Liver front. I would expect news tomorrow in the am to offset the CC news after hours which inevitably will contain the same drab language with nothing concrete which will send the stock down as always.
But I also agree with CP that even that Fargo sabotage might turn out to be a blessing in disguise!
I agree that the Fargo tainted data under mgmt.'s watch might turn out to be a blessing in disguise! It is a great opportunity right now. Instead of being in double digits for over two years we are now at $1.58 and have numerous chances to buy more! Mgmt must agree that it is a blessing because at best they are selling shares that could have been in double digits for $3 plus 10.5% interest. I guess they are giving quite a deal to whoever is buying those shares. Mgmt must also share that opinion as they have buying numerous shares on the open market knowing how undervalued the company is right? I guess it could be worse as we could be $50 a share right now.
But I remember SK saying in regards to that statement...."unless our Phase II flagship is tampered with...then it may take two or three more years"
Sorry SK never said that to my recollection. Perhaps a 10K statement or a PR that states that may prove it.
Besides it is documented SK stated he hoped to have a commercial product by mid 2012. The tainted data under mgmt.'s watch wasn't even discovered to Sept 2012 after the company had to pull out of a conference for family personal reasons.
PPHM's BoD/Management ISN'T their to full-fill our individual personal agenda's as to when pump the stock, make deals or send out news. They are there to run the company in the LONG run and make sure it becomes successful so they can realize/leverage the value in the IP and pipelines at which point we are all good.
And if it just so happens that they can make millions of dollars every year just for themselves at no risk guaranteed no matter what their performance then that just is a bonus for them. No pun intended.
SK said at the beginning of this year that he was excited about updating shareholders in regard to consummating a partnership this year. It's now September...........so Steve, where are we?
SK also said that pphm flows with the ebb of the market - market at all time highs, pphm down 75% over a 10 year period.
SK also said he hoped to have a commercial product by mid 2012 - Over two years later nothing.
SK also said he hoped to have a partner on board for Cotara before phase III protocol - No partner, Cotara dead on shelf.
SK also said he hoped to have a partner on board for BAVI before phase III protocol - No partner to date.
Under SK we were also told we have a China Subsidiary - Any updates.
As anyone can see SK's words have proven to be worthless. All imo
last September ('13) we were waiting for March ('14) and this September ('14) we are waiting for April ('15)..........I could go on and on about privious years but I would really just like the Fresno guy to be able to get to Baha and that other guy who want's the Bentley see his dream come true.....
According to the 2009 newbie list a Bavi and or Cotara partnership was one of the catalyst. Sadly today Cotara is on the shelf and mgmt despite its projections could not land a partner before the phase III protocol and we sit at 50% below the RS split price of $3.20 over 5 years ago and down about 75% over the 10 year period this mgmt team has been in control. Luckily mgmt and the BOD is doing such a great job or we may be down move than 75%.
And can't even begin to imagine us fighting anyone big BP over an infringement on our patents, they would drag it on forever.
Agreed Mgmt and our legal team have their hands full with just lowly CSM. Two years and counting and nothing.
We've retested the lows from 8/8/14 which was the lowest we had been since 1/3/14. Will it hold or will we continue to fall?
If history is any indication we will continue to fall as mgmt speaks on the CC. Once the same gibberish is confirmed that we are in talks, trials progressing nicely etc.... and nothing really positive is announced we will drop further as we almost always do after CC's.
Any of the above has the ability to double the stock price or more.
And yes, none of the above could happen, very unlikely, but possible.
So the reality even if those things happen in the next 18 months and our stock price doubles we will be exactly where we were over 5 years ago at the reverse split price of $3.20. Good thing we did not partner early and good thing we have compensated this mgmt and BOD immensely.
8am has come and gone again with no news from Breast Cancer or the liver conference. Once again the hype turns to dud. The sad part is that there is hope we get to $5 or $10 yet we were already there before the reverse split 5 years ago. The logic that partnering early would limit profits is clearly ridiculous. Imagine where we would be if we partner early. Probably no tainted data that is probably sure. This logic is still being thrown around today yet supposedly BP will not be able to "sabotage" this trial. One could always invest in the acquiring company. If Bavi is as good as the hype the profits would be big enough. Mgmt doesn't seem to care in the delay while patients are dying and partnerships are being made. Think of all the compensation mgmt has received in the past 5 years alone while so many companies have succeeded. Very sad indeed. All imo.
So, my question is "How many times can a company state, in an official PR, that they are going to release material information within a specified time frame, not do so, and be innocent of withholding material information under Reg FD as they are allowed to buy stock at a discount under the ESPP and grant themselves options?"
It seems that "enough is enough" IMO.
Luckily we have a mgmt and BOD team that is too honest otherwise this would be a concern. All you have to do is look at the great track record of ES, Pohl, and Johnson to find out how credible they are and what great guys they are.
In March $2.50 would have been a good cutoff point) I think they should have done it in March, coffers would have been above $100M easily now just by selling 10M extra commons. Tens of millions of extra bucks without interest.
Stock was actually over $3 with over 50 million shares traded. I believe they didn't sell ATM shares because their buddies weren't ready for it so they couldn't sell into it. Have to keep them happy.
8am once again has come and gone with no news about Breast Cancer. Probably just another day that mgmt is being nice to shareholders and allowing them to buy cheap. We could be $50 right now but that would not be a good thing. All imo.
Yes, just what we were waiting for. It is exciting to know that so many things are marked done and they must have done wonders to our stock price since we are at $1.57. Once more items get marked done I am sure we will launch into the $1.60's. Hopefully we will get more timely updates but for now as Crazy Eddie use to say these prices are insane!
As of September 2 there are 134 trial sites.
Wow, that is great! Thanks for the update. Things must be really going well and people are noticing the progress and significance of having 134 trial sites. Only a matter of time to the catalyst's start coming through. Five years and counting. I am sure this is another buying opportunity if you trust in the great record and resume of the BOD of pphm. They have a long record of success and increasing shareholder value. They also talk open and honestly to shareholders thru PR's and IR. You just have to decipher what they really are saying.
You think they could attract Rob Garnick to sit on the board, that might add a tiny bit of credibility to us!!
Perhaps, as of now he is just a paid consultant who can't even be bother to call in for conference calls. Maybe he can find the time next week along with a good connection.
IBB at all time highs and yet PPHM is now back in the $150's and that is before mgmt will open their mouth next week in the CC which almost always means a drop in share price. Good thing we have an "honest" mgmt team or we would be at $50 a share right now and that would not be good. Even with the breast cancer event tomorrow the stock price is falling. I am sure it is just part of the 10 year headfake. All imo.
Too honest of management at PPHM
Yeah they pulled out of the conference for family personal reasons and then two weeks later the tainted PR. I am sure it was just a coincidence since the history of the BOD is unblemished. All imo.
Exactly, the run up to $3 on 60 million shares happened to fast for mgmt to help their buddies out otherwise they would have sold ATM shares at the same price and saved the shareholders 10% interest. Instead they had to wait for the preferred prospectus because it is not really about what is best for the company and/or shareholders (just look to the BOD personnel and their outrageous money packages). It was a win win for mgmt.'s friends and neighbors since their buddies just shorted into the run knowing they would be getting the shares eventually. This is one reason significant news is always released pre-market. All imo.
Why has 8:00 become the standard bearer time for PRs? I've invested in many companies that PRed in the afternoon
Yes you are right many companies do PR's in the afternoon but that would be companies that actually want the stock price to go up. IMO, mgmt releases news at 8am so that their partners can position their shares in the morning and make a quick buck. If you notice the shares always go up in premarket and usually wind up even or down at the end of the day.
8am has come and gone today so there will be no significant tnewsday and the 2009 newbie list is still intact with the Bavi and/or Cotara partner catalyst. This is a good thing as we are lucky we are not at $50 right now so shareholders can buy more. Time to take advantage of the bargain.
Actually he said it was his goal ...another failed business objective.
Funny how the tainted data is still being referred to as sabotage. Did I miss mgmt.'s PR stating it was sabotage? Are words being put in SK's mouth?
Brings back memories of when mgmt had to meet performance milestones for bonuses. They failed to meet 4 out of 7 milestones or something of that nature I believe and that was the last time that was done. Amazing stuff.
Most companies do not disclose such, and that is the track PPHM has taken.
Agreed. However if IR and mgmt state to shareholders that the reason they do not is because no other companies do so than they are lying or misleading at best. Kind of harks back to the "personal family" reasons for pulling out of the confernce before the tainted PR was announced. I am sure it was just a coincidence. All imo.
We were going to have a commercial product in 2012, well without the dose switching we might have because our PII results as we now know were excellent and stat sig and could have resulted in another type of PIII bringing PPHM close to commercial production.
LOL! The projection was mid 2012. The tainted data wasn't found out until after the "personal family issue" in Sept so at best case it was already overdue. He also projected having a partner aboard for both BAVI and Cotara before phase III protocols. So in the latest most important projections he has been way off. His words have shown to be meaningless.
It is safe to assume that there will not be a preliminary proxy also this year.
The last four years the definitive proxy has been filed on either the 26th or 27th of August. In 2009 it was filed on August 28th. Therefore it is really not late yet but knowing mgmt you have to brace for a Thursday or Friday holiday whack.
They have no shame if they do that.
This is the same BOD and mgmt that named Carlton Johnson as COB at a shareholders meeting out of all the possibilities plus they didn't even know they had to announce it publicly. This is also the same company whose IR employee told a shareholder that they were pulling out of a conference for family personal reasons. Two weeks later the tainted PR came out. This is a company while shareholders are being diluted to death their mgmt has no problem accepting raises, bonuses and stipends all the while the share price is deteriorating. I don't think shame even comes to mind. All imo.
You have to be right at some point. Lets hope it is within these 10 days.
Why oh why did you let the cat out of the bag? After all the handwork of mgmt and IR in suppressing the stock price for years and not letting it get to $50 so shareholders can buy more, you handicap the company by letting the cat out of the bag by letting everyone know it is going up big time in the next 10 days. You are ruining mgmt.'s plan to help shareholders!
I know, but oh how wonderful if that ph 2 was untainted!
No matter how it was tainted it was done under the same mgmt.'s watch. How is it not supposed to happen again with the stakes even higher?
I see the IBB is no longer referenced anymore. Is it because it just hit an all time high while pphm just lingers at $1.65 and down 50% over the last 5 years and 75% over the last 10 years? Didn't SK say PPHM flows with the ebb of the market? Commercial product by mid 2012? Looks like SK's words are meaningless.
This is handicapping the company AT PURPOSE for whatever personal reason and possibly delaying things in stead of speeding them up.
Yep message board postings are delaying things and handicapping the company! You can't make this stuff up.
Wow that is pretty depressing for pphm shareholders. In the same year pphm mgmt enacted a RS in 2009 at $3.20 and now five years later we are at $1.64. What a differnce five years makes between two different companies with different mgmt.
I guess those statements by expert witnesses that state how badly pphm is managed and how management has been negligent are accurate also. Share price kind of tells the story. The sad part now is that partnership rumors being purposely circulated now can't even get volume in to the share price. Of course I am sure people are being subconsciously manipulated to not buy pphm shares at these warehouse prices.
IBB soaring again today and within 1% of its all time high. PPHM on the other hand still down close to 75% over its 10 year span and about 50% from its RS price over 5 years ago. This on top of the imminent Bayer partnership. Doesn't seem to be many believers rushing out to buy shares at another buying opportunity. Just easier to say one believes I guess. All imo.
I'd forgotten we have an earnings call coming up in about 2 weeks.
Unfortunately that is good for about a 10% drop since every time mgmt has spoken it has not bode well for the stock.
8am came and went again with no news so another weekend of fantasies go to the wayside. The good news is that the 2009 newbie update list does not need to be updated with a BAVI and/or Cotara partnership. There is always tomorrow.
Yes almost criminal. The mgmt and bod have sucked all that money out, and diluted the longtime shareholders into a 50% loss.
Exactly, all the while collecting bonuses, salaries, and more options and at lower strike prices. In reality they have benefitted with the lower stock prices as they have nothing to lose if the stock price goes down as they just reissue themselves more options at lower prices while collecting their salaries and bonuses and now the stock doesn't even have to go up that much for them to make huge amounts of money. Hell if it doesn't go up they just have to live with collecting about 500K a year in salary, bonuses and stipends plus whatever options they take from shareholders. I bet you don't find too many companies that retain mgmt after losing about 75% of their share price over a 10 year period and I bet there are even fewer that would give their mgmt team a bonus with those results. Can you imagine a professional sports team keeping the same manager and coaches in place after finishing last for 10 straight season and rewarding the manager with bonuses and raises in their contracts? All imo.
Hayward, correction on your post . i Incorrectly read your post as to all time high in Sep 2012. Lets all hope all time high in Sept 2014. I apologize for my response though it is amazing that it has been over seven years since the last highs over $5.50. Hard to imagine long term investors still being happy with those results.
How about going from black Monday in September to a all time high September 2014
Huh? Sorry all time high is close to $55 and as a matter of fact the stock was always higher than September 2014 up to 2007. Sadly in 7 years since 2007 the same mgmt time that has been in place and with all the great progress supposedly made we are at $1.66 while the markets at near all time highs.
Inovio dropped about 5-10% on their announcement.
PPHm is down about 50% from their announcement over 5 years ago.