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Now try a yahoo people search for Marla Kennedy and on the right will be a list of relatives.........Daniel J Kennedy.
Perhaps it is not surprising that few have noticed with all the PR's the company puts out - but nothing has been said about omega-3's for weeks. They have disappeared from the playing field it seems. As people who know (like the much hated Grace) have been pointing out for months, it is not possible to grow omega-3's outdoors in hot climates and apparently BEHL have finally learnt this too. IMO they have never grown an omega-3 strain in Santa Ana, and never extracted any oil, otherwise you know there would have been multiple PR's and samples at the open house. They have yet to grow, harvest or extract any omega-3. So goodbye contract IMO. This, again in my opinion, is why only 1/2 acre is being built and it is going to be devoted to another strain - Haematococcus which produces astaxanthin for this suddenly emerging, penniless little pinkie in NV. I wonder what the first "client" who has an exclusive on the omega-3's thinks of this? Astaxanthin is already produced domestically by two commercial suppliers (one in FL with PBR's and one in HI with 90 acres of open ponds). Both companies extract their astaxanthin using the supercritical CO2 - the FL company have their own unit for this and other extracts, the HI company have it toll extracted. So apparently BEHL is putting an additional 0.5 acre into production (once they have learnt how to grow it - I guess we will know once the small PBR goes red) and then building a lab to extract it. Don't hold your breath on revenues IMO.
That's an easy one. No, no and no. Sorry to steal your thunder seedseller.
you are absolutely correct, the shareholders are being hurt but not by Behl or DF.
GFB please explain what this could mean. Maybe I am being naive but could this mean that the 1.5 billion shares outstanding (plus the others BEHL has sold since the increase to 2 billion) represents <10% of the company?
When I read your "not proven" post, I began to wonder if you understand the words you wrote? For example, some (but NOT all) omega-3 producing algae do require dark conditions. This has been pointed out many times before, yet you persist in recycling that partially incorrect statement.
And amazingly they stated this week (8/24) " The BioCentric Energy team anticipates that the first half of its client's one-acre system will be operational by the end of next week." 6 days and counting....
I must not credit for the pics. This link was first possted by Gummyfuzzybear and attributed to the author named in the link. Good luck to you with your investment, but let's just try to keep these people honest. IMO
They certainly are ambitious goals - realistically they seem unattainable to all those who are not hopeless optimists I'm afraid..
First of all the photo's in this link show the reality of where BEHL is as of a week ago. Producing by September 3 (next week!). You must be kidding
http://s1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/HowYaMakinOut/BEHLopen%20house%20DVJ/
On the 1/2 acre of PBR's for the first client who will be supposedly growing algae for omega-3 (which BEHL has not yet done in Santa Ana as far as we know, and have not harveseted or extracted any oil).
So where are they going to grow the algae for BNPD Mac? There still owe 1/2 acre to client 1 for omega-3s. Also they first have to build the process for extracting the phycocyanin and as the photo's show - they haven't even started. I guess that's one reason why they are selling another 1/2 billion shares?? IMO
Something else that everyone seems to have overlooked:
8/17/2020
To protect proprietary information belonging to BEHL and BNPD, many details of the contract may not be disclosed," stated BEHL President, Monique Berry. "However, the Company is pleased to provide the following brief outline of the agreement to shareholders: BNPD will have sole exclusive rights to represent, market and sell the algae strains Haematococcus, Spirulina and Chlorella to the health industry. BEHL will grow, harvest and process Haematococcus, Chlorella and Spirulina for BNPD. The two companies BNPD and BEHL will equally fund and equally participate in revenues generated from a laboratory to extract Phycocyanin, an all-natural blue pigment contained within Spirulina. Known for its powerful antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties, Phycocyanin (a multi-cellular, filmentous Cyanobacterium) is considered highly beneficial and valuable in the health and beauty industries. The contract also states that BNPD shall provide quarterly reports to BEHL of all activities related to business development, as well as sales and marketing of products produced by BEHL.
Lipid with all due respect I think that you are being very optimistic indeed. Unless I misunderstand all the many PR's over the last several months, I have to disagee with you. No comment on the Hawaii "deal" because we have seen very little info to date - but the other things you mention:
"Nothing to look forward to ?? Are you Serious ?"
"10 Acre SoCal ( 300K x 10 = 3 Million !!!)"
Why pick only this 10 acres? How about the huge opportunities in Inner Mongolia, China, South America, Texas, South Carolina, Northern California and the others I can’t remember
"DVJ Producing end of September ( At least 200K payment ) probably much more with 4 harvesters tied to this 1 acre development , then expansion up to 40 Acres".
They just announced ½ acre to be shipped for September. I guess I missed something – when was the 40 acres announced? On the 4 harvesters - they have ONE already and it is remarkably clean - obviously it has never seen algae - so why buy 3 more?
"75K initial payment by BNPD September."
Where will BNPD get the money from?
"Gov't funding to move HQ to UTAH."
It would seem that we missed Utah:-
June 14, 2010
BioCentric Energy's President, Monique Berry, has submitted "A Plan for the State of Utah" for state financial assistance and incentives to re-locate the Company's headquarters to Saint George Utah –the anticipated response timeline is within two months.
But there are 49 other States and many, many countries to try...
June 17, 2010
Following the submission of the business plan for the state of Utah, BioCentric Energy will be writing similar plans in the next few weeks targeting states in need of new industries and employment opportunities.
"6 Million order waiting to be filled by December."
$6 million contract. Didn’t Dennis say he expected his oil to sell for $200 a gallon? Even ignoring the fact that BEHL has yet to extract a drop of omega-3 oil (they will PR us to death when they actually do it IMO) the chances of filling that order by December are ZERO. Just do the math - $6 million at $200 per gallon would mean 3000 gallons. BEHL has claimed 3000 gallons per acre year (again let’s ignore the fact that they haven’t produced ANY) so it would take 12 months with one acre to fill the contract. But we will have ½ acre and only 3 months between now and Decemeber. Ummmm I don’t think so. Plus this will be winter, less sunlight and low productivity. PLUS the omega-3 production is exclusively licensed to the first client – the client gets the sales, BEHL gets a small percentage license (less than 10% wasn’t it?)
"Many home run possibilities here . We are close."
A swing – and a miss….. IMO. I'm sure others have conflicting thoughts - please share with back-up DD as I have tried to do.
All JMO
They only anticipate that it will be operating, they didn't promise. The Harvester looks in perfect showroom condition though. JMO
If that rumor is true it would be bad news for the company, and the longs. Jose Sanchez is/was the only person there who seemed to know one end of an algae from the other. For example in the recent PR (August 17) Monique Barry can't make her mind whether phycocyanin is a pigment (correct answer) or cyanobacteria (wrong answer). And in the infamous interview DF proudly told us he knows how to pronounce astaxanthin, and then told us it was an algae strain (wrong answer). JMO
To protect proprietary information belonging to BEHL and BNPD, many details of the contract may not be disclosed," stated BEHL President, Monique Berry. "However, the Company is pleased to provide the following brief outline of the agreement to shareholders: BNPD will have sole exclusive rights to represent, market and sell the algae strains Haematococcus, Spirulina and Chlorella to the health industry. BEHL will grow, harvest and process Haematococcus, Chlorella and Spirulina for BNPD. The two companies BNPD and BEHL will equally fund and equally participate in revenues generated from a laboratory to extract Phycocyanin, an all-natural blue pigment contained within Spirulina. Known for its powerful antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties, Phycocyanin (a multi-cellular, filmentous Cyanobacterium) is considered highly beneficial and valuable in the health and beauty industries.
The AS is at 1 billion shares and that will be it, the new 250million authorized have been restricted for 1 year.
You are right, stupid me. DF said that there would be no increase in share count - but he didn't promise. Good catch!
But they suck at PR's and selling shares. That is where the real money is. JMO
Luigi. Thanks for the comment - but no not late to the party, it was obvious what was going on. Look at the new part of my post - I am looking for what others think about DF's response to the question "Any plans to extend the A/S in the future?" The answer "No. No I don't believe so".
IMO it clearly demonstrates that the company is dumping shares, with little interest in anything else, and printing more when they run out. Pump the SP up with a little story and - we've seen the story unfold time after time. IMO
What do you think?
Day 1 - Plans to extend the A/S? NOOOOO
Day 15 - let's add another 500,000 shares. Transparent?
I think it is an amendment to change the share structure. I think it'll look like this On Aug 19 2010 an amendment to increase the Common stock from 1.5 billion to 2 billion
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All IMO of course - but I agree with you completely. We will find out in a couple of days. IF this is the case (and what else could it be?) then I think everyone should listen to the interview from 7/30 (download on iTunes) and listen from 32:28 to 32:50 just after DF told us that the O/S was a little over 1.1 billion and most of the remaining 400 million were for employees (it was already 1.278 billion at that time according to pinksheets). At 32.28 the question is "Any plans to extend the A/S in the future?" The answer "No. No I don't believe so".
Personally I can only see two possible explanations if there is indeed the expected increase in A/S:
1. The shareholders were deliberately being misled or
2. The CEO runs a really sloppy ship in which he thought he had juice for the rest of the year but in fact had to expand the share structure yet again barely 2 weeks later.
This is all just my humble opinion. Does anyone have an alternative explanation (as the stock sinks to $0.001 and below IMO)?
I think it is an amendment to change the share structure. I think it'll look like this On Aug 19 2010 an amendment to increase the Common stock from 1.5 billion to 2 billion
I hope not, but could it be more shares being released? What do you think?
Creative genius.....
Maybe the client was one of these? There are so many PR's I can't imagine there is a big deal in the pipeline that hasn't been well publicized long before it happens (llok at DVJ). IMO
06/23/2010
The second client is traveling from Latin America and will visit the Company's Santa Ana, California headquarters in the second week of July. This client is seeking to deploy 10+ acres of PBR systems in the United States this year and subsequently 50+ acres of PBR's throughout Latin America early next year. The JV capital investment for this client is approximately $16 million. BioCentric Energy will provide an update on the international clients following the meetings in July. The Company is still moving forward and working to solidify client contracts through its VAR (value-added reseller) for tribal lands and Northern California Indian Reservation projects.
06/07/2010
Locate and secure 150 + acres for multiple client farms at one California location – scaled down to 70 acres – 3 Southern California sites identified and in negotiation.
05/20/2010
4) BioCentric Energy has received funding proposal documents from several companies for the provision of future capital funding to elevate BioCentric to a further advanced level of Photobioreactor production. The company has also been in negotiations with several other clients for the delivery of multiple "closed-loop systems" in California and several other states. By the end of this week, the "Management Team" comprising of Brian Goodall, Monique Berry, Frank Rawson and Dennis Fisher will decide which course of action we will implement.
05/13/2010
Biocentric Energy is in advanced stage discussions with a California-based renewable energy company for the rapid deployment of its 10-acre commercial PBR systems. The anticipated deployment date of these commercial systems is 3rd quarter 2010. Following the successful implementation of the initial 10 acres, the renewable energy company and BioCentric Energy expect to add additional PBR units on the same site and throughout California.
they had a repair (1:50) in place that took ~20min.
Problem solved.
All very good questions. The video shows that the harvester is being kept in showroom condition - but why? It also suggests that no algae has been harvested, extracted or sold? Doesn't it? IMO
Apparently Grace called it right.....
Easier to sell shares than develop and sell products. Don't you think?
I feel that the only salvation is a refiner partnership, a la BP-Martek/Chevron-Solazyme/Exxon-Synthetic Genomics. The status quo is not sustainable.
They started dumping after breakout, of course. But from yesterday, they start dumping in AH. Same as the days before the breakout, They dumped total 270M shares in 2 weeks. Why they dump in low price? Because the debt holders want to convert shares lowest as possible which make them more profits. Also, it helps for them to dump in bulk when there are more bid supports when price goes flat. This is why, BEHL slowly goes down and suddenly the price drops more after minimal price depression for consolidation.
Including AH/PRE, OBV indicator shows, it's dilution the line goes deeper than before breakout. They ceased while it's breaking, then now they just started again yesterday.
Just wait for 0.0014. This is the price, 50% discounted, for debt holders got for the 23M sold in two days. They will keep dumping, any price above 0.0014 is gain for them.
What's next is, just my guess, Since Denass keeps selling/converting debts at this low price, I guess, there maybe another A/S increase in a few months. Anyone claims longs, I recommend to trade smart. You can't win for the company operating under sold shares in market. They don't operate on revenue, but on investors money. There's no reason to hold to death until it breaks up to afew cents which I don't think it's possible until r/s
Not 1.1 billion. The latest number (from pink sheets) was 1.278 billion and it would not surprise anyone on this board to find out in Q3 that even more were dumped last week after the Thursday "multi-million dollar" deal announcement. JMO. Next surprise (IMHO) a big R/S like that of Bionic in April (5000:1)
Yup. Back on track alright - just look at the stock chart for the last 12 months. Looks like back on track to 000. JMO
Wow - there are people here who say they don't like character assassination but apparently you are not one of them. Goodall left BEHL so your views on him are surely irrelevant to this board. But apparently you have some amazing insights that you wanted us all to share like his red hair. He started work at Origin Oil the day after he quit BEHL and from his recent interview pics we see no red hair (airbrushing maybe?).
http://www.algaeindustrymagazine.com/a-i-m-interview-originoil%E2%80%99s-brian-goodall/
Apparently you think he doesn't have a Ph.D. - again an amazing revelation - I'm sure that NONE of those companies where he worked (little companies like Shell) never did a background check - how good of you to do that all for us.
And then you know that NASA rejected his jet fuel from algae. Why would NASA want jet fuel oh bright one? And why would they reject it? Or are you implying that he never delivered jet fuel? Probably you are right - all these websites and the US patent office website which lists all his patents are phoney. We should always refer to you for DD.
http://www.icao.int/WAAF2009/Presentations/16_Goodall.pdf
GFB - where is all this from?
By producing 300+ pounds of algae each day per 1 acre, the company and its clients anticipate generating approximately $1,000 in gross revenue per day per acre.
I am confused. Since when does a lab make money? Laboratories are usually seen as cost centers not profit centers. If you mean extraction unit (????) then I for one do not see where either pinky has a chance in hell of financing their own supercritical carbon dioxide extraction plant as another domestic astaxanthin producer has been using for the last decade. These things are enormously expensive and the other algae producer claims to have patents anyway.
Where can shareholders find this info?
Phaeton you posted this ..
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Every present algae company that provides Phycocyanin only yeild extraction at 12% to 15% or lower. BioCentric can yeild extraction of Phycocyanin at 20% to 24% at a production cost less than the existing algae company's.
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Agreed. IMO the only statement made about extraction was 4-5 months ago when BEHL announced in a typical PR that they were traveling the country to find the best extraction method. Had they found it I am sure that there would have been a PR and there was not.
Had they extracted anything (omega-3 oil, astaxanthin, phycocyanin) there would have been a PR. In the meantime there are several companies US and overseas who grow the right algae, and commercially extract and market these products through reputable companies like TwinLab and the Vitamin Shoppe. One day BEHL might be able to do the same once they buy the equipment, successfully grow the algae, get registration and circumvent patents of others. JMO
Wow - the shareholders really don't like BNPD do they?
And it begs the question - if this company couldn't afford $400 for PR in November 2009, do not make a penny on any case of drinks shipped, had a 5,000:1 reverse split on April 10th 2010 and is back to an SP of .0001, and had no cash - where does the $600K come from? JMO
http://www.pinnacledigest.com/forums/bnpd%3Aotcpk/bnpd-energy-drink-ready-distribution?#comment-38482
BY: Gold-Miner - November 19th, 2009 - 9:19 AM
Re: BNPD - Energy drink ready for distribution
One last comment - The outstanding shares are 1,385,000,000 and the market cap as of today is only $415K. JD has changed his company name something like a half dozen times. I have almost sold all my shares in this crap - ta ta ya'll. Get out before it is closed!
HERE IS WHAT I GOT FROM THEM WHEN I ASKED WHAT THE HELL WAS GOING ON
Plus, he - JD - should know better to label it as confidential - I have not signed a damn agreement with him or anyone at BNPD so his request for confidential means nothing to me when I like you guys, I am losing my investment to this guy.
jdbionic@verizon.net Subject: RE: Inquiry from www.bionicproducts.us
CONFIDENTIAL!!!!!
Thanks for your interest and support!, Just to let you know we are working VERY HARD to get our products into many stores and Distributors daily. We have been short on cash since nobody at this time is “sporting” the companies bills but me. We do not get a dime from shareholders trading BNPD! I’m sure you know that, and we are not selling stock to get funds in here either, so??? One other thing, We do not make a PENNY on any cases that are shipped, I promise you we lose money on almost everything we ship, we have to pay a fulfillment center to package-up our products, then we also pay for shipping. Just want to make sure you understand the WHOLE PICTURE. We are busting ourhumps to make this company work and be successful, it’s hard whenvendors OWE us tons of money and we have bills, And everyone around us is going bankrupt, so I think we are doing well and NOT “dying on the vine” . Feel free to call me or email me a time if you would like to chat about the reality of this company, I don’t have the extra 400 dollars every week for PR’s at this juncture, but we are working on our Daily Digest (on the website) & a new e-brochure that will inform our customers and shareholders alike.
Hang in there, we are!!!!!! Thanks again for your comments and support.
Ciao, JD/VP
Re: timber! fallen cant get up 19-Apr-10 02:22 pm the R/S sure screwed this stock and all shareholders... This crappo stock WILL see sub penny shortly... headed waaaay below that too. Look at the Authorized and O/S count.... no way can hold penny land !
Buyers beware !!!! This guy is a consumate idiot! IMHO
should I then assume that all of the
correspondence that I have received via email
from Behl to be nothing more than outright lies?
Oh well, their loss our gain.
"When calculating the total value of this contract," stated BEHL Founder, Dennis Fisher, "it is astronomical to say the least. A one-acre PBR system alone will produce approximately $5 million worth of Haemaotoccocus in a 12 month period."
If you are correct that only 1/4 acre will be used in this contract (how do you know that?) then why talk about 1 acre being worth $5 million. Maybe just to make the numbers look astronomical (to say the least)? Wouldn't it be misleading to shareholders to build 1/4 acre and claim the revenues from a whole acre?
JMO
Dennis thinks that astaxanthin is a strain of algae (listen to his interview) so why would I ask him? Clue - it is NOT an algae strain.