Note: LAND SPEED RECORD CAR!!!!!!

WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Folks, I love this. Its a meeting at Cyclone. Read the list of people who where there and look at there credentials.

Nuff Said?


Board of Advisors Meeting

Date: February 4, 2008
Location: Pompano Beach, Florida

In Attendance:
Harry Schoell - President/CEO, Cyclone Power Technologies
Michael Hodgson- Chief Engineer, Cyclone Power Technologies
Aubrey England – Sr. Assembly Engineer, Cyclone Power Technologies
Frankie Fruge – COO, Cyclone Power Technologies
Wilson McQueen – VP – Marketing, Cyclone Power Technologies
Robert F. Bourque, Ph.D., P.E. - Sr. Engineering Safety Officer, Los Alamos National Laboratory
Jerry A. Peoples, BSME - Sr. Engineer, NASA (retired)
Robert Edwards, BSCE - Sr. Engineer, Lockheed Martin (retired)
George Nutz, BSME – R&D Engineer, M.I.T. (retired)
James D. Crank (by phone) - Sr. Research Specialist, Lockheed Martin (retired); President, Doble Steam Motors Corp
Chuk Williams – Builder and Driver of the Cyclone LSR car
Christopher Nelson, Esq. – Legal Counsel

Yeah, they are a monster in Europe......bad wiring thou. LOL

Dont think I ever met one of there products without an electrical problem.

FrazDog

Well, the tracks still make a fair amount of noise. But once idled it would be a lot harder to pinpoint. Also the low heat sig would be awesome once put thrue a diffuser. Made the call, going thru my connections now. Prolly will know that the right people got the info by monday. ROCK ON GRAJEKK..... We will move this rock an inch at a time if we have to.

The FrazDog

Grajekk....keep an eye on this thing. Its a dooooooozie! You dont know the half of it yet.


LOL

The FrazDog.

Oh, and btw, its diesel, wonder if they might be interested in a nearly silent low heat signature power plant? Nah.....its got no certifications........ROFL!!!!!

Check this out. This is another project I am working on.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/total-destruction/rip-saw-ugv-tank-fast-as-a-motorcycle-yours-for-only-200000-324041.php

BTW FULLY FUNDED BY UNCLE SAM!!!!

No private certificaton before funding. AND, best as I know there still insnt any. Huh, Imagine that.

FrazDog

pontalba,

Yes of course, how could I be so wrong. I support 4 million dollars a year in manufacturing sales and my office over 23 million and I am full of crap. WOW!!! Thanks for the insight. Now I can go to sleep at night. Course, there is the slightest possibility that this may not just be for CARS!!!!!! Ooops. There I go again with the not having a clue what I am talking about. Silly me. I get it now. Are you the comic who used to do Triumph the Insult dog and since that career didnt pan out you feel the need to "Poop On This"? If you dont like it DONT BUY IT!!! But sitting in here with all your negativity is not doing anyone any good. Unless of course you want to belive and are just looking for validation. If so, do like everyone else and go get it for yourself.

FrazDog

Let me comment on something that I am an something of an authority on.

I am an Industrial Automation Engineer so I have some insight on production. MANY of my customers do not seek or achieve independent certification on there technologies. Especially if they really work. I am not saying that cyclone is one of these but from all my research and consulting with several different mechanical engineers this solution is VERY plausible. Secondly the fact that there are two different companies already licensed to manufacture this should speak volumes. Also, you can’t deny the different people who have bought on and have put there names on the line backing the technology. People from NASA and such. Or the awards it has already won.

As far as production is concerned, I have a customer in my area that could build these production machines in 6 months or less. One such customer is Kingsbury Machines. They are located in Keene, NH. They specialize in building equipment just like this for major automotive manufacturers. Due to the slow down in the automotive industry there is a huge amount of capacity at these manufacturers. So the turnaround could be even faster.

The cyclone has exponentially less parts than a standard ICE. This would allow it to go to market even faster.

The market would suggest a real demand. Honda already has a waste heat solution in the market called FreeWatt. http://www.hondanews.com/categories/1048/photos/13645
This focuses more on home heating.

I don’t know stocks that well but I am learning more every day thanks to folks like Paulness and Grajekk. What I do know is manufacturing and production. I stated in an earlier post, I think we are closer than we may know.

I am going to take Grajekks lead and pay some visits. I am going to forward Kingsburys info on to Dr. Myers at Advent. I also know people in my area that build such plants. I would love to have old NH as the center for production of this.

Well, off to send some e-mails. Catch you all later


Regards,
The FrazDog

Think I finally got it.

Your saying its the diff between buying shares and re-selling them for a profit and "borrowing" shares and have to re-pay for the today price. so ones a win the other is a loss? And you can tell this by looking at the float.

FrazDog

Dr. Myers says that they will go IPO in like 2 years, however if you would like to invest at the Pre-Pre Price they are taking investors. LOL Just e-mail him and he will give the details and requirements.

Cheers.

FrazDog

Paulness,

(not my last post I guess)

See, I think I got a handle on this and you go an make sense. Darn it. How come the shorted shares dont affect higher dollar stocks more. I would think that there is even MORE at risk on a 12.00 per share stock than a .50 cent per share one. I am not trying to be a goon. I am trying to learn from someone who obviously has more experience at this than I do.

BTW I spotted your alter ego on the Yahoo boards. Paulness(s) I think? LOL

Regards,

FrazDog

PS. Thanx for the link to shortsqueeze earlier.

Still confused on who a MM really is.

Okay, 254,300 short shares for CYPW. Thats of 61 million owned. Or 0.58% Thats not a very high percentage to be moving the stock up and down I wouldnt think. ESLR has 24,164,000 short shares. Thats of 121,450,173 owned. Thats 19.9%. Shouldnt this mean that ESLR should be getting hammered by MM's? It went up 2.00 per share today and has been on a nice climb for about 5 days. I get that there is no solid formula for why and if stocks climb or drop. Now I am more confused than before. ROFL

Sorry guys, I am an engineer so numbers are my life. I just cant rationalize that this stock is dropping because of some dark force. Regretably, I have to agree that there is not much market support for this technology yet.

On a side note. I have been writing back and forth with Dr. Myers at Advent. Folks I think we are a Hell of a lot closer to a real product than you may think. Also, some of the applications I have been discussing with him fall outside the realm of what is being advertised. If the numbers add up, this is a huge game changer with MAJOR tax/cost ramifications for companies nationwide.

Regards,

The FrazDog

Darn, last post of the day.

Feinanddandy and Paulness,

Thanx for the lesson of MMs. Given that answer are you saying that all the stock available has been sold?

FrazDog

Question about MM's?

How is it that we know that they are manipulating this stock? I am new to this and am trying to learn how to spot this type of thing. I mean technically.

FrazDog

Question???

Up or down tomorrow? More profit taking? MM still gonna pound it down?

FrazDog

Hmmm....very interesting BUT!!!!

There is nothing patentable, that I can see, about this process. In other words, you can get RF signal generators from any high school electronics class. Saltwater as they stated is almost infinitely abundant. So if this pans out, should be a jump ball for anyone who wants to produce the process. I think given that, you won’t see huge institutional buy in because they can’t lock up the rights to it. Kind of what happened to Eli Whitney and the Cotton Gin. Not sure if you realize but he didn’t make squat on it. If I remember right he made his fortune on mass producing guns for the military.

All of that said, you would still need to achieve a percent of energy output better than that of existing processes today. The video fails to make any claims about the efficiencies. This leaves me a bit suspicious.

I have a good friend who is a High Energy Physicist and he and I have followed these types of stories for years as a hobby. Needless to say, inventions ranging from the patterson cell to all the stuff J.L. Naudon has come up with always seem to fall short of defying the laws of physics.

There is no doubt that the world is hungry for an energy revolution. There have been over the years some remarkable discoveries the should not go with out merit. However, they tend to end up in a niche market allowing them to do what they do best and nothing more. For example, look up the water hammer when you get a chance. This was supposed to be powering ever steam plant in the world by now. Turns out, it’s just a kewl way to make steam on demand in some industrial applications. This is good because you don’t need to store and maintain the steam until it’s needed. So it is a great discovery. Just wont change the world is all. Remember that energy is never gained or lost. It is just transformed. It’s how efficiently you transform it that’s the real bang for the buck.

The huge draw for Cyclone for me isn’t that it’s more fuel efficient well to wheel. You can get that from high compression diesels. They have been for years now. It’s that it is fuel anonymous and that it is clean with a VERY simple, “PATENTABLE” design.

It also maintains the deep fundamentals of any thecnology as required by Alvin Toffler.

Time, Space and Knowledge. Cyclone has the lion share on all three of these in how its solution is positioned in the market today with oil being what it is. As well, they have locked the rights to the knowledge with patents. This should be a good bang for the buck folks all things considered.


FrazDog

Okay, this blows my mind.

At least this person had the decency to post there intentions.

http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.6966025/browse_thread/thread/fb8f8c23876a14cb

To quote "I will initiate short in 2 weeks time or a little over $1.2 whichever
comes first. Hopefully it jumps higher then we'll be seeing some major
downfalls." This stock, DLKM, closed Friday at .95

So, is this an acceptable method of trading? Is this stuff normal? From the discussions I have seen in here it seems to be kind of frowned upon by the SEC. Also, I got the impression from the conspiracy crowd that there where groups of traders doing this stuff.

It’s this kind of thing that keeps the stock under valued and beats the crap out of it right?

FrazDog

grajekkz's Moon Generator.

The difference in temperatures in space is huge. 224.6 F to -243.4 F on the Moon. So from the sunny side of an object to the shady side you can create a huge difference in temperature. Not withstanding the use of a solar collector. I would assume in theory that you could simply place the condensers/coils appropriately and create rotary motion. It seems to me that it should work. Another technology that the Government has looked at is the Stirling engine for just the same solution. The problem with Stirlings has been that the huge Delta T needed really tears the materials apart. This requires more exotic materials such as Inconel or ME-3 to hold it together. These alloys are very heat resistant but have high nickel content making them hard to tool and very expensive. These are the same metals that are used in turbine disks on jet engines. The WHE is not near as efficient but it has the ability to not destroy it self either. What you suggest does seem plausible from what I understand of the technology. The only other gotchas would be that the WHE still uses pressure to make the pistons move and it uses water as its working fluid. In zero atmosphere you would have to make adjustments to contain the pressures and keep the fluid from freezing up solid. In other words, the WHE would become a lot beefier. Not a bad thought however, as I stated before, if the math really works as advertised this thing can really be evolutionary. I am not joking when I say that this thing has kept me up nights!!!!!! Man I am a geek.

If you feel like e-mailing NASA I would say go for it. Anything that anyone can do to create buzz about this would help keep it from getting crushed.

I have spoken with some really talented Mechanical Engineer friends of mine about it and they feel that all the claims do line up as it is being advertised. One should also note that this technology is in to way Revolutionary. What is being accomplished here is really just using good old ingenuity to re-use technologies that have been around for years and put them together in a more sensible way. Not unlike the Wankel Rotary engine. This is just another evolution of the same types of technology. It is a better widget.

Frazdog

Couldnt agree more grajekk...

How about the potential for third world countries. Or areas of civilized countries with little to no infrastructure. The thoughts are almost limitless. I am just all wiggly thinking about how my existing customers could turn 30% of there waste heat into electricity. Its a complete no brainier if the math holds up. Of course thats a huge IF!!!! I would love to have the rights to sell this thing in my geography just for co-gen alone!!!!!!! Right now states and the feds are pouring huge tax credits in to re-newable energy. People are firing up old wood chip fired Power plants by the tons because of the credits they get back on CO2 emissions. This could literally drop the demand off the grid by 30% for those using electric heat and actually put 30% back in for those burning fuels. And the best part.......It would be the corporations funding the infrastructure...NOT US!!!! WOOOHOOOOO.

Still bummed about the price drop. I am fighting myself over wether I should dump in another grand or hold off. So conflicted............

I hope this thing dont get crushed.....

The Frazdog.

WOW.....New to this guys so please dont flame me to bad..

Paper traded to practice. Read the books. Did the research. Found this stock. I really belive in this technology. I work my day gig as an industrial automation engineer doing sales and support. I have over 2500 customers. The amount of waste heat from these companys is almost uncalculatable!!!! With an ROI thats 80% less than that of solar this thing is absolutely HUGE!!!!!! Its killing me to read this board and see whats happening to this solution. I feel like a fool learning that things can be manipulated so easly like this. Never learned that lesson paper trading. *ugh* So now I am in at .95 per and looking at options to cover this down to 35 per. Any advice would be greatly appeciated. Just stinks that it seems all my research was 100% wrong. Still cant belive it thou.

Also, Talked to Dr. Phillip F. Myers at Advent. 2 years for them to go IPO. Dont know if this sheeds any light on things.