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I'm not yet.
I may miss some of the run if it does but it hasn't shown me yet that it plans on really holding $5.
I'd rather buy it on the way up.
Good luck!!
Dare I say $3.50?
All we need is one more late day run.
Way to go Arnie!!!!!!
Well, Suzy isn't happy!!
I have made a grand total of $300 on this stock since the quarterly results. The volume has dropped off significantly. I don't know whether that's good or bad but I miss the action on this one.
I'm hoping fall will light a fire under ETrade so we can all profit from these conversations.
I just read that there is alot of economic data coming this week and they expect the markets to be more volatile than usual. Whaaaaat? Dow was up over 200 Friday and down over 200 today. Sheeesh. If it gets any more whacky I'll be too afraid to play. LOL!!
Me too!!!
I was hoping with Freddie and Fannie in serious trouble ETrade would tank so I could hop back in at that price. No such luck.
I guess it has to break out of this tight range sooner or later. I just hope I'm not asleep at the wheel when it does. LOL!!
I wonder if $5 will hold this week?
I'd love to try and play a bounce here but it's still hugging the lows of the day.
Well, it's getting crushed at the moment.
They must have added something else during the CC?
Missed by 3 cents and quided Q4 lower.
That's pretty bad news.
7:01AM Kulicke & Soffa misses by $0.03, misses on revs; guides Q4 revs below consensus (KLIC) 6.64 : Reports Q3 (Jun) loss of $0.03 per share, $0.03 worse than the First Call consensus of ($0.00); revenues rose 6.8% year/year to $180.1 mln vs the $182.6 mln consensus. Co issues downside guidance for Q4, sees Q4 revs of $160 mln vs. $188.50 mln consensus.
Only a very modest gain today.
It's still being sold on every little bounce. It's holding $3 for now, though.
I've been using the QID and QLD to add a little to the kitty.
I'm hoping ETrade comes back to life soon. It is stuck in a rut at the moment.
And oil is up almost 5% today.
If oil heads back up the market won't like that much.
That Merrill news is very disturbing to me.
They take a huge write down AND have to issue 9 billion in stock to cover losses. They have said all along that it wasn't going to be necessary to dip from the capital markets.
I guess I'm worried ETrade might have to do the same thing. That would really bite.
I guess we'll see.
There's alot of big economy news this week so I'll probably sit on my hands and see how it falls out.
It bounced right off of $2.75.
I don't know if that means much yet but it did anyway.
I'm not too keen on putting any cash back into the market quite yet so I'm just going to watch for right now.
Today was just a blood bath on many stocks.
Looks like we'll find out realest.
ETrade just broke $3 with gusto.
I'm still waiting for $2.50. I suspect it will be a quick drop from here. If it isn't, your $2.75 price may be golden.
Best of luck!
I use this chart.
http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=ETFC&num1=4&cobrand=&mode=stock
The slow stochastic hasn't even come out of over bought yet. Granted, it's not a 10 minute chart, but it has showed me some excellent entry points on stocks. You'll also notice it doesn't show any support till $2.43.
The shorts have OWNED this stock. I have little doubt they will try to get it to crack $3 as you said and will try to generate another quick trip down.
Of course, I reserve the right to be wrong too - LOL!!
Why $2.7X?
I have it going back to $2.50ish.
thx.
Well, you're more upset about it than I am.
It is what it is. We just have to wait and see what happens.
I'm trying to follow all this from the yahoo posts. It's very hard with all the posts comparing ETrade to various elephant parts - LOL!! My yahoo rule is that if I see something posted a few times and it isn't challenged then it's probably true.
I think it's great that they didn't lower their price.
I don't think it's great that they say profitibility in 2010.
Just last quarter Layton stated emphatically: we will be profitable in 2008. Now 3 months later it's already not true. I hope this isn't a trend with him. We'll have to see. We really need someone in there that the street can believe.
Lehman has had that price target since Dec/2007.
I believe the only updates were for the conference call info.
The shorts had to know about it.
And that explains why it ran all the way down to $2.30. With a huge chunk of cash in those 2 stocks just that one day where they dropped 40% each it would have brought our market cap down significantly.
Layton didn't buy that stock. I believe it was a holdover from the previous regime. However, he certainly could have started unloading the position alot sooner. It's easy to second guess them, but it seems clear to me that position needed to be lightened way before they started doing it.
That downgrade this morning doesn't show us making a profit till 2010. OUCH!! I guess downgrades are to be expected after a miss & warning & stock debacle & moving the goal posts on profitability.
Guess this stays a trading stock for quite a while longer.
Not until they spilled the beans last night.
But I'll bet the shorts knew!!
The real bummer is that the loss affects Q3 so it will mostly show up in the next report, if I read it right.
Good for you croc!
This has been a high volume selling day. I think we'll see $3 before we see $4 again.
So everybody is out but me? LOL!!
I guess I should change my handle to sleepy suzy.
I'll exit my last chunk on this little AM bump.
Looks like we'll get that gap fill at $3.17 and then see where she goes.
Reuters
E*Trade loss deeper than expected; issues warning
Tuesday July 22, 7:01 pm ET
By Jonathan Spicer
NEW YORK (Reuters) - E*Trade Financial Corp (NasdaqGS:ETFC - News) reported a wider-than-expected second-quarter loss on Tuesday, and warned it could see more losses as the economy deteriorates and more loans sour.
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E*Trade posted a net loss of $94.6 million, or 19 cents a share, in the quarter ended June 30, compared with a profit of $159.1 million, or 37 cents per share, a year earlier. The quarterly loss was its third in a row.
On average, analysts polled by Reuters Estimates expected a second-quarter loss of 14 cents a share.
Shares of the lender and online brokerage fell 13.6 percent in after-hours trading.
The company took a provision of $319.1 million for loan losses. E*Trade has been hit by losses in its mortgage business. Its loan portfolio is big compared with most of its competitors.
Although it is trying to turning itself around through measures like cost cutting and shedding assets, the weakening U.S. economy is hampering its efforts.
Earlier this year, E*Trade said it expected to turn a profit from continuing operations in 2008, but on Tuesday the company said the economy may prevent that from happening.
"The credit losses are higher than we expected," Chief Executive Donald Layton said in an interview.
Recent difficulties in the mortgage market should also affect E*Trade's $330 million of preferred equity in Freddie Mac (NYSE:FRE - News) and Fannie Mae (NYSE:FNM - News). Preferred and common shares of those two housing finance companies have plummeted this year amid concerns about their capital levels.
E*Trade sold 65 percent of the preferred shares in July at a loss, which should cut into pretax results by $83 million in the third quarter.
"Their value was on a roller coaster during the last month ... The reality is, that's the kind of high risk investment E*Trade does not need to be in," Layton said.
E*Trade said "the current economic environment may impede our expectations to return to profitability from continuing operations this year."
Revenue fell 20 percent to $532.3 million.
The loss from continuing operations was $119.4 million in the quarter, compared with a profit of $159.1 million in the same quarter of 2007.
E*Trade's total loan delinquencies increased 9 percent from 2007, while its home equity loan delinquencies grew 4 percent.
The company reported daily average revenue trades -- a measure of trading volume -- of 172,314 in the period, up 2 percent from a year ago.
E*Trade's shares fell to $3.50 in after-hours trading from the Nasdaq close of $4.05. The company's shares have dropped about 80 percent over the last year.
(Editing by Jeffrey Benkoe)
Some CC notes from yahoo:
no profitability in 08
apparently they held a large position [over 300 million $$] in fanny mae which got clobbered for a big loss.
and this post has a nice summary:
ETFC Conference Call Summary 8 minutes ago
The Good:
--Total Net Revenue of $532 million.
-- Total Retail Customers increased 22,000 from the prior quarter, up 90,000 from the previous year.
-- Total Accounts increased 30,000 for the quarter and 196,000 from the previous year.
-- Target segment accounts increased 14,000 versus the prior quarter, up 4,000 from the previous year.
-- Total DARTs (customer trades) declined 5 percent quarter over quarter, but increased 7 percent over the year ago period.
--Undrawn home equity lines have been reduced from over $7 billion last year to approximately $3.7 billion as of the end of June (49% reduction).
--Total delinquencies increased by 9 percent or $111 million during the quarter, representing the slowest increase in four quarters.
--Home equity loan delinquencies increased by 4 percent or $25 million during the quarter, down from an increase of 8 percent in the prior quarter.
--At the end of the second quarter, excess risk-based Bank capital totaled approximately $620 million. The Company expects to have such excess capital at the Bank of approximately $700 - $800 million by year-end.
--Continued to effect debt-for-equity exchanges, extinguishing $96 million in debt in the second quarter and $121 million since the beginning of the year. These exchanges represent $9 million in annualized coupon savings and continue to serve as a shareholder friendly way to reduce the overhang of debt at the holding company.
The Bad:
-- $319 million in Provision for Loan Losses (net loss of $94.6 million or .19 cents a share for the quarter).
--Provision for loan losses increased by $85 million quarter over quarter, driven primarily by an increase in home equity-related charge-offs. Total allowance for loan losses increased to $636 million, as provision exceeded charge-offs by $70
million during the quarter. The Company increased its allowance for loan losses across all three categories of its loan portfolio.
--As previously disclosed, the Company has a long-standing investment in preferred equity of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. As of June 30, 2008, these positions had a market value of $330 million. Subsequent to the close of the second quarter, these securities experienced record price declines and volatility. Based upon concerns about continuing market instability and potential government-led plans that could materially further impact the value of the securities, the majority of them were liquidated during July with a resulting pre-tax loss of $83 million, which is net of hedges and will be reflected in the Company's third quarter results. As of Monday, July 21, 2008, the remaining position, approximately $150 million, had a third-quarter-to-date market-value loss of approximately $40 million. The Company's strong bias is to continue to reduce this remaining exposure, as ownership of such securities is no longer in line with the Company's strategic objectives.
--"While the current economic environment may impede our expectations to return to profitability from continuing operations this year, we are executing well on our Turnaround Plan and continue to make progress toward returning to profitability,"
stated Mr. Layton.
Well, it's at 3.49 afterhours.
**UGH**!!
E*TRADE FINANCIAL Corporation Announces Second Quarter Results and Progress of 2008 Turnaround Plan
Tuesday July 22, 4:05 pm ET
Second Quarter Results
-- Total Net Revenue of $532 million
-- $319 million in Provision for Loan Losses
-- Net Loss of $94.6 million, or $0.19 per share
2008 Turnaround Plan Progress
Customer Metrics
-- Total Customer Cash and Deposits of $33.7 billion
-- Total Daily Average Revenue Trades (DARTs) of 172,000
-- Opened 232,000 gross new accounts and produced 30,000 net new accounts
-- Net new customer asset flows of $900 million ($1.8 billion excluding the sale of Retirement Advisors of America)
Financial Progress
-- Reduced holding company debt by $95.8 million in the quarter via debt-for-equity exchanges. Year-to-date debt reduction of $155.8 million, including $120.8 million in debt-for-equity exchanges
-- Signed definitive agreements for non-core asset sales of over $660 million, with estimated pretax gains in excess of $400 million, to be realized upon closing
-- Ended the quarter with excess Bank risk-based capital (excess to the regulatory well-capitalized threshold) of approximately $620 million
-- Achieved goal of $50 million in annual run-rate expense reductions
halted - news pending.
I sold some more at $3.96.
The rest I will keep for after the close.
Should be a big mover one way or the other!!
Good lord!!! What happened to the futures?
The Q's are down almost $1.
I have a feeling someone was very bad last night - LOL!!
Do we report after the close tomorrow? Thanks!
WOW is right!!
I'm hoping it gaps up again tomorrow morning and then I'm letting another chunk go near $4. I'll hold the rest for earnings on Tuesday.
This has been quite a ride and has already paid for our vacation to the lake next month.
Thank you ETrade!!!
Make that 3.70!!
It should be a good close for us!!
We're almost back to $3.60.
Is this the biggest 2 day ETrade rally ever?
It's gotta be.
Today is going to leave one helluva gap on the chart - LOL!!
You bet your butt!!
If this hits $4 today I'm going to let some more go.
This is awesome!!
I took some off the table at $3.49
Still have a bunch but yowza what a couple days it has been!!
Feels like Y2K again - LOL!!
$3.50 coming up!!
$3.30 pre-market!!
BURN SHORTS BURN!!!
I'm sure you're right.
I guess we find out tomorrow if this is just one of those short covering one day wonders or whether this has some legs. It is option expiration week.
Either way, today gets framed and hung on the wall!!
Congrats!!! &
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...............
now we're having some fun!!!