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I would sooner believe he is an inept CEO rather than a crook.
He may have no clue but for me..what matters most is he doesn't give a rat's behind how many lost here nor how much they lost. I am sure he is sorry! Sorry more didn't throw more money in it. lol
I am sure you did Light! Just don't want to see you get hurt any more than you already have been. Your money, your decision. I'm a bit over protective of those I like...sorry! LOL
Well said Belgian.
Oh no...he did it to you again didn't he? This is why he wants to keep up the "personal" contact. smh
Good luck sweetheart!
He acts as if he did nothing wrong and that all of his words were direct and straightforward.
That is a good question Light. I don't know why he did that. Naive at the point in the process or didn't know who they really were and what they were about? His only choice back then? I don't know but I understand where you're going with it.
Regardless of what he did 7 years ago now...he has been steering this ship since then. At one time..it was doing well and due to HIS OWN DECISIONS he ran it in to the ground and took a great deal of people with him. The bs on the blogs and memos never stopped. He continue to berate ANYONE who challenged his decisions despite the fact that the financials proved THEM to be right.
Seven years light...7 years! Can't go back and blame history when he has had so much time and help yet still managed to destroy it and those who helped him most..right along with it.
It's kind of like a 30 year old still blaming the fact they were spanked for their need to be violent. The excuses no longer hold water and the facts are in black and white. Given he had never let anyone else run the ship...he and he alone is responsible for what a disaster he has caused here. Given so many of us could see where it was going years ago...how did he not see it and change course? He saw it coming...I don't believe he is that ignorant that he didn't understand. Even when he was touting they were working on "friendly financing"...they HAD TO KNOW a RS was the ONLY way they could go. This type of thing doesn't show itself over night and the paperwork and procedure involved takes a great deal of time.
Oh yeah...there are so many of those kind of BS statements. Things sure read differently now...don't they. Often time one doesn't see the snake in the grass until they feel the bite.
If he truly cared...he would've already ordered up to date pre-reverse split NOBO/OBO list...a shareholder position report...and the DTC sheets then compared the 3 to know exactly how many shares his precious remaining 1st crop of longs he just crucified were holding going into his whopping 500 to 1 R/S!!!
He's got some real cahones asking such things imo. I'd respond by telling him to go...... well...fill in the blank! lol
Listened to my cd the other day. Next time you are passing by exit 76...let me know. Lunch is on me!
Inappropriate. I wouldn't respond..if I owned shares.
Question for those who know far more than I ever will about this stuff... For those shareholders here for whom it is public knowledge they did work for the company and were intimately involved with the company by creating websites to support the company or sold domain names to them, traveled doing demos etc...
If the company made any sort of "special arrangements" or special consignments concerning the shares they held...does it have to be in the filings? If it does...where in the filings would it be?
I am having a hard time believing that as entrenched as these guys were/are...that they went down with the ship given their public statements of commitment to the CEO here and the company.
TIA
So very true sir. As someone else pointed out..his track record is evident. I remember back when he and a few shareholders were out in California trying to make the infomercial and they were telling me how the production company was getting frustrated because he was trying to tell THEM how to do their job. I wasn't surprised given his incessant need to control every aspect of everything. His "my way or the highway" attitude has not been his friend and in business, that is a sure fire way to fail.
The sun came up again this am so everything will be fine but the sting for many won't fade any time soon.
I am sure there are companies who have gone through an rs and gone on to be successful but I would be curious if management changed in order to make it successful.
As long as the current ceo is in charge of this ship....she may rise a bit after more continued carrots, hyper blogging and newbies that show up on these boards every day.... but she will sink to the bottom...once again.
GREAT QUESTION!!! I was just going to ask that. The pos can find PLENTY of time to berate those who told the public this was coming, who have exposed the truth here but he doesn't have time to blog about REALITY!! WTF!?
Despite my clear disdain for this CEO...this brings me no joy. I was stupid enough to continue to hope for those stuck here that this wouldn't happen and there was still some way for it to work out. There was plenty of time for people to sell and get out but nonetheless...the official news causes great sadness.
I am not a hardened trader who can just say..told ya so and sucks to be you because at one time...I was one of them. One that kept holding on and holding on. The trouble with people who don't lie and mean what they say...they expect others to do the same. This one should be a shining example for keep your money under your mattress, it's much safer there.
BTW MODERATORS....THAT SHOULD BE A STICKY AT THE TOP....IMMEDIATELY.
Thank you for sharing.
GOOD MORNING WNBD! Hope everyone has an awesome day and remember...this too shall pass.
Do you think he hurt himself patting himself on the back?
I too remember the days when lots of positive news flowed daily and the belief in the company was palatable. I thought for sure my nieces and nephews wouldn't have to pay a dime for college because I had found the golden ticket.
Stupid woman.
lol
I still recall his statement that ~"the smart investors are buying at .02"
Exactly.
It's incredible to me that ANYONE would touch this mess given the CEO admitted RS coming, the way the company has driven this in to the ground etc. Why would you buy another car from the same used car sales man that already sold you pos once before? smh
While I'm not surprised there was no date given...I am surprised it wasn't blogged that after the CC...there will be a 500 store roll out with an unnamed company, due to confidentiality. That seems to be a favorite word lately.
All pomp and circumstance. Applause to those who keep it real around here.
Here is a clear example of the way things are said via this company. The post below is over a year old. Now the fact shareholders are to expect a RS has been announced publicly..I have to ask... how long does it take for the process of an RS to happen? Weeks...months? How much does it cost? Did the company put out this information insinuating that they had found financing (ie....The most important vetting condition on our end was to prevent a reverse split) all the while...nothing had been secured? Were there even any viable parties interested in "friendly financing"?
Seems to me the company had to know the RS was coming long before it was made public, despite what the last year of blogs have said. IMO
BLOG
FEB 22
Shareholder Question: Investor Relations / Market Awareness
Categories:
Shareholder Correspondenceby Eric Lehner
.QUESTION
You stated at the beginning of the year that you felt you have now accomplished enough to warrant a stock awareness initiative. We are going into March and have not heard any more about this, and the stock is sitting at .0003! When are we going to hear and see more about this???
ANSWER
Yes, we are proud of Winning Brands in many ways, and there is a positive message to be shared with new and prospective retail investors. The logical time to ramp up such outreach is when we are clear as to the nature of our refinancing, because it affects the scope of business projects that we can undertake, going forward. The core message to the prospective retail investors (i.e. prospective shareholders purchasing shares on own account) should be authentic, not the usual “stock promoter hype”. This requires clarity about the basis on which the company will fund the next 2 years of its business plan. Also, we do not want to compensate investor relations/awareness associates in shares (for a number of reasons). That is a second reason that the ramping up of IR/IA should follow the refinancing.
On the subject of refinancing, we are confident that we have identified advisors whose track record, ability to understand our objectives and proven contacts are of sufficient quality to proceed with preparation of a formal proposal to appropriate candidates that are already known. Over the next 90 days there will be a great deal of work going on to complete this. The most important vetting condition on our end was to prevent a reverse split as a condition of the funding, and that the funding be sufficient in scope to enable an end to 504 funding. An ability to end 504 funding will no doubt bode well for the removal of the partial chill in due course.
Complete refinancing will provide a tremendous shot in the arm to the company because management will be able to focus more on business development, the product costs will decline, marketing commitments can be planned further in advance, etc. It had not been possible in the past to raise 7 digit financing amounts due to rolling 12-month funding limit constraints inherent in Regulation D, Rule 504 (that we have always honoured). We will not have to rely on Reg D, 504 for the contemplated refinancing.
In summary:
It seems likely that we will be able to raise a sufficient sum this year without R/S to enable an end to 504 financing
This is a positive factor in the plan to end the partial chill
IR/IA will be undertaken to diseminate important information about completed refinancing and to acquaint prospective shareholders with operational developments
The supply/demand equation for our shares will be restored by ending the downward price pressure that 504 supply creates.
Elevation in Winning Brands trading tier will be facilitated by normalized conditions
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72407839
Exactly. I believed all of the "words" before. The actions of this company have spoken far clearer.
The dude has reached a whole new level of scumbag pink CEOs. IMO
"Ethical investment"? He wouldn't know ethical if it bit him in the azz...twice! Lol
I disagree. We will leave it there.
The last quote just proves that despite his continued claims he is above all other pink CEOs....he has proven to be just another POS ceo...just like the rest.
Absolutely!
Doog, given WB is CURRENTLY (or based on what has been released thus far) in a few well known stores...do these companies look at the ship wreak here and does that affect whether they want to continue doing business with them?
Your point?
So the scumbag finally tells the truth! A gold star for him huh!? If I had the time to waste...I'd go back and find the MANY, MANY, MANY emails to moderators, comments in publicly released emails to shareholders and blogs where this pos was ADAMANT that an RS would never happen and his thoughts on companies that do such a thing. When he would slam anyone on a public message board that would suggest such a thing...claiming it was due to their lack of vision and them trying to bring the pps for their own benefit.
His selective memory is working over time again.
Those of us who have followed this scambag over the years have been saying he would try to make it out to be a great thing and his BS begins now.
Good grief. I can only imagine a few longs who will most likely throw up once they read this as they continue to hold on to something. Nothing left to hold on to here.
Should have known by the perfect hair, used car salesman grin and nothing behind those eyes.
How are those "happy" shareholders now?
Thousands of businesses are started every day, thousands fail too...but it is the ones who admit to their mistakes, take ownership for their failings and try again that deserve respect.
This CEO... IMO...has reached a level of disgusting and vile that I had yet to experience other than one other pink that he has been compared to in the past and I adamantly defended him against the attacks then! WTH was I thinking?! Stupid woman! smh
His words drip with disdain for those who tell the truth about his failings when he has NO ONE to blame but the man in the mirror
My weekend starts now...have a great one!!!
This last blog by this pos ceo had me screaming at my computer. What an arrogant sob!! It's INCREDIBLE how he CONTINUES to blame posters on a public stock board for the reprehensible mess HE...HE HIMSELF has made out of this company.
He is the one who has made public statements, promises and all but guaranteed "big box" accounts for YEARS. HE is the one who continued, for years, to publicly say the company was in certain chains when in reality it was just a couple of bottles being tested in one store somewhere in Timbuktu. He is the one who refused to listen to the PROFESSIONALS during the tapings of the infomercial and demanded it be done his way. It failed of course...just like he has. He is the one who refused to go through regular steps and do what was required to finally make good on his bs grandiose hints, suggestions and dreams he painted so well for shareholders. He is the one who timed the release of 1/2 factual blogs or prs to dilution. He is the one who used dreamy eyed shareholders to do his work for him. I could go on for awhile given the history I have watched unfold here but ultimately it's the same... the management is inept....always has been.
Ultimately, he is the one who will face his maker one day and he's got some 'splainin to do.
To those here like me who got suckered in by this pos and who have continued to post their experiences and opinions and to those who have made it their goal to be sure the TRUTH....TRUTH...FACTS AND TRUTH have been made clear here.... I salute you. Don't let this scumbag deter you from your mission. At least yours is honorable.
Understood.